Pushing a node to its LIMIT for the "Continuous Flow Intersection"! (CFI)

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@12463trf
@12463trf 3 жыл бұрын
As a new player without mods, making this looked like magic.
@edwinvandenberg3633
@edwinvandenberg3633 3 жыл бұрын
I play this from the beginning without any mods fot the game. I follow yumbltv and i respect this a lot. I've tried this road mod once or twice but it's way to difficult for me.
@tnexus13
@tnexus13 3 жыл бұрын
Reasonably sure its possible with mostly vanilla. TMPE & move it mod make it easier. Just about to try it to see if i'm right.
@TheXLAXLimpLungs
@TheXLAXLimpLungs 3 жыл бұрын
If you're on PC I highly recommend getting at LEAST these infrastructure mods. Even if you don't use them much, the few times you do it will make everything so much easier
@sbsftw4232
@sbsftw4232 3 жыл бұрын
It is magic lmao. This intersection is nuts!
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 3 жыл бұрын
@EntropyOnline and it really exists.
@AceEverett
@AceEverett 3 жыл бұрын
Big tip: Use Move It export feature to copy this road, import it into the asset editor, then save as an intersection asset. Now you never have to build it again, just plop it down.
@Ruffi0
@Ruffi0 3 жыл бұрын
Big brain
@FireballKGK
@FireballKGK 3 жыл бұрын
.
@orppranator5230
@orppranator5230 2 жыл бұрын
Wrinkly brain
@marxistturtle6958
@marxistturtle6958 2 жыл бұрын
Or just download the mod 🤷‍♂
@donnie1581
@donnie1581 2 жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking.
@KimForsberg
@KimForsberg 3 жыл бұрын
I never cease to be amazed by how flexible the road network in cities skylines is (with some mods added to tweak it). It's one thing to have the data model for the intersections and nodes, but being able to use that and dynamically present it without a bunch of visual artifacts is just insane.
@Kram1032
@Kram1032 3 жыл бұрын
I'd be curious to know what a potential Cities Skylines 2 would do with this, including all community-mod hindsight. One thing I'd love to see, for instance, is a road editor that smoothly supports adding or subtracting lanes. Like, instead of having to have a separate road type for every single combination of lanes, just pick a road texture (might come with certain properties in terms of max speed and maintenance cost), and for each node, pick how many lanes there are as you edit the network. Could also put a lot of extra work into maybe more intelligently figuring out what road markings might be, and some of the almost must-have-seeming tools could just be built right into the game from the start.
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 3 жыл бұрын
I suspect they didn’t expect mods like node controller at all and the fact that it works so well is actually a miracle 😂
@tippyc2
@tippyc2 3 жыл бұрын
I've made several of my own roads at this point. Whoever came up with the node system was a freaking genius. There's just a set of rules that "stretch" the road at the node to make the road ends meet. Every road in the game follows the exact same connection method, whether vanilla or not. If the width parameters and connection classes are set correctly in the road asset, everything just works. It really is amazing how elegantly simple it is. I suspect Node Controller works so great because the nodes were already stretched to meet each other in vanilla. The mod is just stretching them more. Same reason Move It works, the mechanics to bend and stretch roads were already in vanilla, the mod just allows you to bend and stretch past the vanilla limits.
@dycedargselderbrother5353
@dycedargselderbrother5353 3 жыл бұрын
I remember being impressed when regular anarchy roads and Move It worked, especially when people like RTGame built vertical roads going up the poop volcano.
@voodoolilium
@voodoolilium 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kram1032 This would be a great way to include separate turn lanes without having to use various asymmetric roads
@Pystro
@Pystro 3 жыл бұрын
1:23 "It's rather techincal compared to what I usually do." Dude, I am watching you because you're the Cities:Skylines KZbinr who is most technically versed.
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 3 жыл бұрын
Idk if thats true, but I appreciate it! 😂
@Ruffi0
@Ruffi0 3 жыл бұрын
@@YUMBL prett my close my friend ;)
@AcornFox
@AcornFox 2 жыл бұрын
@@YUMBL Its probably true lol
@supermengwei2
@supermengwei2 3 жыл бұрын
All I can say after watching this is that you've clearly set your phases to stun.
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 3 жыл бұрын
;)
@inyobill
@inyobill 3 жыл бұрын
OK, you won the internet today.
@oneinemilyon2481
@oneinemilyon2481 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you try to build Swindon's magic roundabout in Cities.
@RobertDoornbosF1
@RobertDoornbosF1 3 жыл бұрын
The AI is so stupid it would probably get gridlocked because they use 1 lane
@PSjustanormalguy
@PSjustanormalguy 3 жыл бұрын
I think Biffa already has done that
@chrisogrady28
@chrisogrady28 3 жыл бұрын
The magic roundabout sign may aswell just read "Americans find another route"
@ThaJay
@ThaJay 3 жыл бұрын
@@RobertDoornbosF1 That's not true. It's just a matter of properly setting up the lane connectors.
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 3 жыл бұрын
I’m sure Americans drive it all the time.
@alexrus5495
@alexrus5495 3 жыл бұрын
This is magnificent! Haven't touched the game in almost two years and I'm just amazed by new possibilities. I remember when I tried to build something like this and how miserably I failed. You, sir, are an artist and your videos revived my passion with Cities Skylines. Thank you for your content!
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! Have fun! :)
@JETZcorp
@JETZcorp 3 жыл бұрын
The CFI is easily my favorite intersection type. I use these all over the place and often there simply is no substitute. One thing I've found is, unless every direction is extremely busy, you don't need traffic lights on the "legs". The crossing left can simply have a yield sign (IRL they'd probably use a flashing yellow arrow) so they can go and load up the leg area anytime there isn't oncoming traffic. However if the intersection is very busy in all directions, then the outflow really is rather continuous, and it becomes necessary to add the additional lights. This is also helpful for pedestrian access, if you want people crossing there. I typically still use a 2-phase light, as most of the time if the yield isn't enough, then it means I have absolutely massive demand on the left turn and they need lots of time. But as with anything, it's valuable to analyze how things are working and rearrange the green-time to where it's needed. Regarding how difficult it is to build, it is MUCH easier if you don't insist on the single center node. If the legs get their own node, there's really almost nothing to do with node controller and most of the work is just setting up lane arrows. If you do yield on the legs, the traffic light is less work than a standard 4-phase intersection.
@mari_023
@mari_023 3 жыл бұрын
not using a single node would also allow for staged pedestrian crossing
@dycedargselderbrother5353
@dycedargselderbrother5353 3 жыл бұрын
First we get asymmetrical roads. Now it's asymmetrical nodes. I feel like Colossal Order curses every time someone comes up with something like this because now it needs to be a base requirement for CSL2. I feel like this video was a counter to all the suggestions of overbuilding the roundabout with flyovers, pedestrian tunnels, etc. and then comparing it to a vanilla intersection. At 15:22 you can see how it's a shame that you can't adjust yellow light timings as that car gets stuck in the intersection while making a left turn. Maybe a 1 second dummy cycle would fix it.
@carstenzimmermann4435
@carstenzimmermann4435 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure I actually like this desgin, but 100% impressed by the idea of parallel roads tied to the same node! Whenever you think you've seen it all, there's something beyond expectations... Nice one, thanks
@islandrider91
@islandrider91 2 жыл бұрын
They just put a modified version of this in a city near me to help manage traffic on the bypass highway. everyone was freaking out because there was 12 instructional videos published by the province showing how the intersection functions from all directions. green means go red means stop watch the light in your lane.. easy peasy. made the busiest intersection in the province flow a lot smoother. great video, i wouldn't have the patience or the skill to make that in CS.
@gabehill9817
@gabehill9817 2 жыл бұрын
We've got these all around my city in real life and they work like absolute magic. There's the 2 way versions and 4 way versions, and both have taken traffic from an absolute nightmare and accident riddled mess into something much more pleasant.
@lagautmd
@lagautmd 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see those implied islands in the middle of the intersection filled in with greenery.
@kleckerklotz9620
@kleckerklotz9620 3 жыл бұрын
Interessting! So you basicly offset the crossing left hand traffic to a second junction further back, which allows you to minimize the traffic light time and steps. On the equation of capacity, conflict, waiting time/traffic flow and used space, the only real drawback is the used space. I like it.
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes, the space used is sub optimal. But its usefulness comes in money saved from installing and maintaining an interchange. Some areas need an economical solution.
@Pystro
@Pystro 3 жыл бұрын
One downside in real life (though not in C:S, if you build it right) is that it's confusing, so increased risk of accidents.
@alohatigers1199
@alohatigers1199 3 жыл бұрын
@@Pystro Accidents occur due to bad drivers’s bad habits. Not the design itself.
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 3 жыл бұрын
Nope. Statistically its safer than a normal intersection.
@Pystro
@Pystro 3 жыл бұрын
@@YUMBL Guess people must be approaching it with more respect then? Also, it takes away many directions and most opportunities to get T-boned. Since it removes 1 of the 2 left turn directions (2 straight directions remaining) that cross each straight path; and each left turn crosses only 1 straight path instead of 2 straights and 2 other lefts.
@Diana-le7oh
@Diana-le7oh 3 жыл бұрын
This is amazing, I actually needed something like this for a few high volume intersections in my city where there isnt quite enough space for an interchange and a roundabout or timed traffic light are still not quite enough. Gonna try this immediately.
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 3 жыл бұрын
Good luck! :)
@Diana-le7oh
@Diana-le7oh 3 жыл бұрын
@@YUMBL update: I installed TWO of these in my city at a couple of busy intersections and it brought my traffic back up to 78%-80% after it dropped to 73% when I added some new industry areas.
@JMWZ_E
@JMWZ_E 3 жыл бұрын
This build is really breath-taking. And thanks for including remarks about only displacing left-turns for two legs of the intersection, though my head almost exploded trying to think of the changes in lane-math that come with it ;-) I think the weakest point of this design are the four pre-intersections with the crossing lane-connectors of 10:58 with a risk of left-turning and straight-on traffic getting stuck at the traffic light after leaving the main intersection and backing up all the way to the main intersection. Combined with my weakness of configuring traffic lights it would be a complete nightmare to recreate this ... ;-)
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 3 жыл бұрын
Its a bit hellish, yes. Would work even better if i made the legs longer.
@JOHNORR1
@JOHNORR1 3 жыл бұрын
@@YUMBL I think you could improve the light sequence with a few small changes. In phase 1 you have the left turning traffic (into the left turn bay) waiting for oncoming traffic which hasn't arrived yet (ignoring the stragglers who just turned left). So I would change phase 1 to allow them through (with oncoming as red) until oncoming traffic starts arriving at that red light (by my count it's about 9 seconds from when through traffic starts moving through the main intersection until it reaches the intersection after). Phase 2 turns green for the oncoming traffic and red for turning left into the bay. This way through traffic won't have to stop once they get through the main intersection. Would be interested to know if this improves anything or if there's something I haven't considered or forgotten.
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 3 жыл бұрын
You’re probably right. The legs also need to he longer for true two phase operation i think.
@JMWZ_E
@JMWZ_E 3 жыл бұрын
Money is not the only restriction why overpasses are avoided ... to avoid steep inclines a lot of space is needed. The continuous flow intersection as an alternative to grade separation loses much of its value if the legs are growing and growing ... And even if you space out the intersections of the arterials as road hierarchy tells you to do, two consecutive continuous flow intersections would be difficult to realize.
@kenhagler7166
@kenhagler7166 3 жыл бұрын
I've build one of these before with an older version of node controller, but your approach with the current version is much better. This actually looks like a real-world intersection (there's a CFI here in Austin, TX), unlike my clunky effort.
@isidrr2755
@isidrr2755 3 жыл бұрын
In my city (Tijuana, Mexico) they have almost a whole avenue with only cfis (avenida de los insurgentes). Only that the cfis are better designed than the whole city.
@bwunukey
@bwunukey 3 жыл бұрын
i'm just amazed how you keep up with these designs
@artray9441
@artray9441 3 жыл бұрын
They did something like this on the Indian River and Kempsville Road intersection in Virginia Beach and it has greatly improved traffic during rush hour.
@thespartanmk1
@thespartanmk1 3 жыл бұрын
They had a bunch of these along Bangerter Highway in The Salt Lake City area. I always found them kinda neat. They took a lot of traffic flow ideas for the Jordan Valley and just ran with them. Diverging Diamonds kinda spread through the state, but Continuous Flow Intersections and the one single road with flex lanes never really took off. Bangerter has really increased it's traffic flow since I lived in the area back in 2016-2017 so a lot of the intersections are getting turned into On/Offramps. They were starting that process down in Draper. When I was there last year they had gotten up past West Jordan and were working into West Valley City. I kinda miss the area, but at the same time I see the ticking timebomb of californization that will inevitably take over the valley. Farther you get from Salt Lake, the better.
@twocflyer7520
@twocflyer7520 3 жыл бұрын
I worked for days trying to recreate this intersection and failed. You did it with the amazing node trick. I love it! that was so satisfying to watch you work on the past few days! I could watch the traffic go through that intersection for hours.. I really hope you use it at least once in your city, especially now that you have it save and on the workshop. I would really love to see it in action with a beautiful city surround it! Cheers from the Parclo Matrix guy
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks TwoC!
@TheCherry1994
@TheCherry1994 3 жыл бұрын
Woah finally a continuous flow intersection I think I can build. The options these mods make possible is actually amazing.
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 3 жыл бұрын
Much better than the old way :)
@OVERCHARGEDEGG
@OVERCHARGEDEGG 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful work man! I had a video come up in my suggested from a Department of Transport looking at this and I thought straight away, Yumbl will do this. Amazing!
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a bunch :)
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 3 жыл бұрын
I may put it up :)
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 3 жыл бұрын
Its up! Links in description :)
@wm-nu1yf
@wm-nu1yf 3 жыл бұрын
I've thought about trying to build one of these several times just to see if I could get one right but never have because trying to visualize how to do the traffic lights always gave me a headache. This was great :)
@JETZcorp
@JETZcorp 3 жыл бұрын
You can simplify the lights a lot. Unless traffic demand is very high, you can get away with only a single light at the center (if you make a single giant node like Yumbl did) and the "legs" can use yield signs. With that single light, it's just 1 phase for North-South and 1 phase for East-West, done.
@wm-nu1yf
@wm-nu1yf 3 жыл бұрын
@@JETZcorp I've seen several videos of people creating this junction, but this is the only one I saw that connected everything through the central node. All the others connected the left turn lanes a few units away from the center and I never thought about doing it Yumbl's way until this.
@nanfredman1991
@nanfredman1991 2 жыл бұрын
I literally sat with my mouth open, watching this. Awesomeness.
@Largueirus
@Largueirus 3 жыл бұрын
I tried yesterday and for the love of everything good in this world, I couldn't make the lights do what I wanted. I tried again today, and it's like magic. Clears the intersection beautifully
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it worked! Nicely done :)
@ITBEurgava
@ITBEurgava 3 жыл бұрын
I just started tampering with node controller and I think here I just stumbled into the most advanced tutorial for it.
@GoldenArbiter01
@GoldenArbiter01 3 жыл бұрын
I love how the patterns look while you're making things.
@adamt195
@adamt195 3 жыл бұрын
I actually tried building this on the test map you shared in the roundabout video. But I built it as 5 nodes and lots of timed traffic lights and lane connectors. The 4 phases are not confusing to understand, but they are confusing to time correctly and keep everything free-flowing.
@CalebClif10
@CalebClif10 3 жыл бұрын
I saw you building this live. Absolutely incredible work!
@fortdayexe
@fortdayexe 2 жыл бұрын
Why does your traffic manager lines look so funky ( 8:40 ), for me, they show exactly which path the car is going to drive.
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 2 жыл бұрын
You may have only played on the latest tmpe update. They used to look like that.
@johnterpack3940
@johnterpack3940 3 жыл бұрын
I built one of these with discrete nodes and liked how it worked. but now I'm definitely going to build one this way. That just looks amazing.
@marlopainter8246
@marlopainter8246 3 жыл бұрын
The Learned Doctor demystifying another intersection! Love it.
@AvonaStar
@AvonaStar 2 жыл бұрын
In Factorio, this is analogous to a buffered train intersection, specifically the Windcross by Zijkhal. Google "Factorio 3 and 4 way intersections" to see it and other crazy designs. In factorio, train tracks are always "on grade" so crazy intersections are needed to allow high throughput for large factories.
@PopKMedia
@PopKMedia 3 жыл бұрын
My hometown built one of these. It greatly decreased accidents as there are now fewer intersection points. Well done!
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 3 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated :)
@douglasbaker9663
@douglasbaker9663 3 жыл бұрын
Another amazing creation! I will immediately search for it as an asset in the Workshop, and probably be let down by off-brand creations. And then I'll let myself down with my own off-brand creation. Let the mimicking commence!
@H3artFang
@H3artFang 2 жыл бұрын
picked this up for my city main road.. I had to build this 34 times total, but hey, it works its magic. traffic went in downtown area from 28% during rush hour to 97%
@LukeAB951
@LukeAB951 3 жыл бұрын
I'll always remember the first comment I saw on a video about the continuous flow intersection: "It's amazing the lengths Americans will go to avoid a roundabout"
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 3 жыл бұрын
A roundabout cannot do this. I promise.
@moledaddy
@moledaddy 3 жыл бұрын
We only went to the moon because someone put a roundabout outside NASA.
@brettsteinbook5370
@brettsteinbook5370 3 жыл бұрын
They added one recently in my town. Thanks for explaining the reasoning.
@newmancl0
@newmancl0 3 жыл бұрын
They've implemented a bunch of these in Utah. bit wonky to get used to at first. But supposedly they reduce accidents by a significant percent in the long run.
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 3 жыл бұрын
Quite safe from what ive heard.
@illdeletethismusic
@illdeletethismusic 2 жыл бұрын
still prefer having one direction flow straight, the other split into over and under
@MaxFX1984
@MaxFX1984 3 жыл бұрын
Next: Median U-Turn intersections? These have two-step traffic lights as well. Would be a great sequal to this vid. Greetz, MaxFX
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe I will :)
@control_the_pet_population
@control_the_pet_population 3 жыл бұрын
Hah yes! The good old fashioned Michigan left! As a Detroit area native, most major left hand turns are displaced to median u-turns
@TheSleepyCraftsman
@TheSleepyCraftsman 3 жыл бұрын
Michigan Left!
@JediTev
@JediTev 3 жыл бұрын
@@YUMBL It's almost 10 years old, but here's an example. It also is next to a SPUI!!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/m17Wh56ggLakfMU
@OhKnow379
@OhKnow379 2 жыл бұрын
@@YUMBL I didnt quite follow your guide for the traffic lights as mine look quite different
@KariahBengalii
@KariahBengalii 2 жыл бұрын
We have one of these in my city! It always felt really over-engineered to me, but this video made it make a lot more sense when I could see what was going on. It makes sense why they would do something like this, too, because two major roads run into each other and the placement of buildings and a major park prevent people from using other roads to bypass the intersection and an interchange would feel really out of place.
@wadeab
@wadeab 3 жыл бұрын
I went through one of these earlier this year turning left. It was wild.
@carmenschumann826
@carmenschumann826 2 жыл бұрын
. . . what I can recognize: out of one regular 4-phases 4-ways intersection you made one 2-phase crossing plus additional 4 (2 + 2 opposite synchronous) ) 2-phase crossings . . . so you are trading time consumption (4 phases) against space requests (deskewing / distributing time over space) . . . interesting !
@deilusi
@deilusi 3 жыл бұрын
That's great design. I thought skylines will not allow to build interchange like that. Its really pushing limits. This is also only one I know where all rights, and all lefts can go at the same time without collisions.
@hkst51rturbocharger13
@hkst51rturbocharger13 3 жыл бұрын
A couple years ago they put one of these intersections in about 3 miles from where I live. They actually put it in to reduce accidents rather than improve traffic. It's very interesting, it works pretty well. Definitely confusing if you've never been on it before, as you have to know what's going on and get in the correct lane ahead of time. They have it set up the same as your build, with the sub intersections having their own lights that are perfectly timed with the main intersection to prevent traffic buildup
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 3 жыл бұрын
Glad its worked!
@LeeHawkinsPhoto
@LeeHawkinsPhoto 3 жыл бұрын
VERY slick the way you built this into one node! I haven’t built one of these in a good long while, and Node Controller wasn’t a thing then. I think this is the best way I’ve seen to build this for sure. I will say though that the traffic light phasing is way more complex and a ton more efficient than you have here. It’s even more fun to watch when it’s set up right. Now I gotta make a video 😁 But again...the Node Controller work and those American road assets...great work!
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lee. Show me the light! 😂
@LeeHawkinsPhoto
@LeeHawkinsPhoto 3 жыл бұрын
@@YUMBL oooh! Love the pun! 😂 You really make some awesome vids my friend 😊 I appreciate the care and detail you put into these tutorials. You’re a huge asset to the community.
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 3 жыл бұрын
Ive had it working well on a 2 cycle light, but the legs have to he a bit longer. The rate of the cars over distance matters massively here.
@danielstamp3301
@danielstamp3301 2 жыл бұрын
You do an amazing job! I learn quite a bit from your videos. Keep up the good work!
@RobotMowerTricks
@RobotMowerTricks 3 жыл бұрын
We have one of these in our area. it works pretty well, but it's a lot to take in when you first pull up. Side to side, left turns require a U turn, up and down the left turns have that slip lane lane like in this intersection.
@dndplus5
@dndplus5 3 ай бұрын
TDOT completed our first roundabout and is on track to begin construction on our first continuous flow intersection in 2027 with a completion date of 2030. Thank you for the visual.
@ElektronikArzt
@ElektronikArzt 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! I was wondering when will you cover displaced left turn and here it is!
@DEmersonJMFM
@DEmersonJMFM 3 жыл бұрын
I made a one-leg 'T' version a while ago in order to decrease the light phase on the through road. These work like a symphony if you time your lights perfectly (I also have another very busy 'T' intersection close to it).
@transitional9404
@transitional9404 3 жыл бұрын
I WAS WONDERING HOW TO MAKE THIS WITHOUT IT BEING A MESS, THANK YOU YUMBL
@jagnes632
@jagnes632 3 жыл бұрын
I love this intersection! I have a spot in my current city that could definitely use something of this sort, (I might try it without the stop lights first though as I hate setting up the traffic lights). Thank you Yumbl !!
@maraheters
@maraheters 3 жыл бұрын
You know you're good at the game when all of this makes sense
@mwparker1969
@mwparker1969 Жыл бұрын
Awesome intersection. You are the road expert on KZbin.
@niklasrudde7124
@niklasrudde7124 3 жыл бұрын
I need to incorporate this intersection into my city. Such a Beautiful intersection
@fyreguy2384
@fyreguy2384 3 жыл бұрын
Just came across one of these for the time in real life yesterday and today this shows up in my feed.
@harag9
@harag9 3 жыл бұрын
Impressive, like the marking tool really makes the flow pop out.
@Valyn
@Valyn 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing. I absolutely love seeing strange intersections like this. Great video dude
@CJLloyd
@CJLloyd 3 жыл бұрын
I love this. It's a counterintuitive intersection, but it looks really cool. There only thing I'll say - and this applied to pretty much all the intersections I've seen you do so far - is that, having grown up in a country where turn-on red is not legal, and now having lived in several countries where it is, freeflowing right turns always annoy me. They make it very clear that pedestrian safety is a secondary concern. I always have to dodge scooters and bikes when I cross, even at a marked crossing with the green man showing. Back home, the green man meant no traffic was coming and you were completely safe. I'd be interested to see you tackle an intersection that manages to incorporate safe pedestrian crossings without sacrificing too much traffic flow (and without building absurd pedestrian bridges - there is a huge one near my apartment, and nobody uses it, preferring to chance death on the busy intersection below instead because it's significantly faster.)
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 3 жыл бұрын
A red right turn on a ped cycle solves this. This was just a test in a vacuum. These are also not generally meant for populated areas.
@MurcuryEntertainment
@MurcuryEntertainment 2 жыл бұрын
It's fascinating as an engineering problem and cool as a model.
@khao1412
@khao1412 3 жыл бұрын
This is exactly i saw when i went to Tampa, FL. Great video
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@arcanearcher3548
@arcanearcher3548 2 жыл бұрын
This is beyond beautiful
@agsystems8220
@agsystems8220 3 жыл бұрын
A thing of beauty! Only concern is that the bottleneck is on the junction exit rather than entrance, so it might lock up if the main node is running 100% duty cycle. The straight on/left turn exit lanes are receiving 2 lanes of traffic in both phases, but the lights for getting back out will only be operating 2 lanes on some of the phases. You would need 4 lanes crossing the left turn to have the same throughput. Not sure how they deal with that in reality, but it is quite possible that they just don't, or have pedestrian crossing phases on the main node to match duty cycles. My instinct would be that the pedestrian crossings should be on the main node, counter-intuitive as it sounds.
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 3 жыл бұрын
Correct. The legs need to be a bit longer, and the light needs work. It runs on two phases irl, but its also much bigger.
@alohatigers1199
@alohatigers1199 3 жыл бұрын
Simple regular intersection is the way to go. If there’s traffic backed up, there are other factors like zoning, road hierarchy and lack of transportation
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 3 жыл бұрын
This is a viable option instead of (or on the way to building) an overpass. Its for buying time and saving money.
@kurtisburtis
@kurtisburtis 2 жыл бұрын
The first time I encountered this intersection in real life, it was a brain-bender - but your explanation makes perfect sense. (It was on the Bangerter Highway in Salt Lake City, Utah,)
@LordPhobos6502
@LordPhobos6502 3 жыл бұрын
Went through an intersection similar to this on the weekend, Punt Rd & Swan St in Melbourne. Very interesting. Definitely more efficient than a standard intersection.
@moinulahsan600
@moinulahsan600 3 жыл бұрын
Thats a beautiful intersection
@clumsyjester459
@clumsyjester459 3 жыл бұрын
What I'd like to see, would be a version where you displace the left turning lanes on 2 directions, then they do their turn completely outside the intersection and then you do a "reverse displacement" on the other two directions to merge them back in.
@teambellavsteamalice
@teambellavsteamalice 2 жыл бұрын
I love the core trick here, splitting the two left turns before the intersection. This has many more similar applications I bet. I don't like traffic lights, but here you really made it work. I do think at least one overpass (the main road in one direction) will make this a lot better. But do you have a design that has no traffic lights? I see this working excellently in a highly asymmetric traffic flow, like one major straight meets a heavy left turn. But symmetrical ones of course look nicer. You can split the lanes and merge them into two roads, probably a wonky zigzag over one way and under the other. You'll then have four pairs of roads. It could be 2-1+2-3 combo just like you have in this video or any combo of lanes. If there is only one really have left turn you only have to split that one road. You then have a good starting position for a really cool sets of overpasses and underpasses. I'd set the main roads crossing straight through at -6 and +6, the right turns at 0 and pick what looks nice for the left turns depending on what height you connect to. Does this make sense?
@runheli
@runheli 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect I'll have to watch your video 10 times to be able to recreate it. With your explanations I also understand why something works and that helps me. Thanks and have a great day.🙋‍♂️
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to help! :)
@Whalefire2
@Whalefire2 3 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous intersection but all I can think about how terrifying those right turning sliplanes would be to pedestrians. If you're crossing from left to right and there's a column of cars waiting at the red light, you have no way of seeing if there's a car tearing down that side and you can't exactly stop in the middle of the zebra crossing the check.
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 3 жыл бұрын
Id probably add a cycle to let them out. Wouldnt take long.
@zuiopds2203
@zuiopds2203 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! This perfect construction greatly allow to see the effectiveness, thank you.
@stuchly1
@stuchly1 3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos. You're showcasing things I haven't even seen IRL or in game for that matter. Really cool road architecture and amazing game tricks, all very well explained. And on top of that you're really easy to understand. I'm not a native speaker so it's difficult for me to understand people sometimes. Keep up the great work. 💙
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! :)
@ft3917
@ft3917 2 жыл бұрын
i still like the spiral turbo kind of round-about, specialy if they also have the roads between each arm, so you can u-turn. i think you could make a very good one or two. one that is compact and one for highways
@N3UM4NN4TOR
@N3UM4NN4TOR 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! This is really sick.
@baztherintelamon2304
@baztherintelamon2304 3 жыл бұрын
very cool and very impractical to use, thanks for making this vid. i have some very big cities (500k+) and i could really use this type of intersection, but the space required is just to much. i build all my cities with 75% low density residential/ 25% high to make them more realistic and sprawling , space is premium lol. you and Biffa are my 2 fav here on YT.
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 3 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated :)
@MsDannyHappy
@MsDannyHappy 3 жыл бұрын
im actualy amazed what you can do in CS big inspiration, now im playing with some custom intersections and they realy do work in actual built city and helps with trafic too (plaing with real time mod) so Thank you for inspiration and showing me this kind of thing is possible.
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome! :)
@robertdylan6723
@robertdylan6723 3 жыл бұрын
This is amazing, I wanted to see it in cities but knew I couldn't do it justice.
@adrianb3869
@adrianb3869 3 жыл бұрын
Like it. I’ve got the perfect spot for this. Thanks for posting.
@richardreich5632
@richardreich5632 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutly amazing!
@vaishnavmhetre9061
@vaishnavmhetre9061 3 жыл бұрын
For allowing left turn incoming traffic arriving intersection to take preference over straight coming traffic, can you advise try give way i stead of a dedicated traffic light? That way you might get more left turn traffic away instead of having them wait till then green to even arrive the free lane. This way the wastage of time to arrive the free lane will be coped up and more traffic will go through. Yeah there could be issue that the left hand traffic wont ever then allow the straight traffic but advise if we have an alternative over traffic light.
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 3 жыл бұрын
That would certainly be easier
@Noelwiz
@Noelwiz 3 жыл бұрын
You have a relaxing voice and make cool stuff, and are good at explaining these builds. subscribed
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot :)
@leighbardsley1475
@leighbardsley1475 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome - Personally I wish you’d show the marking phase on these videos (or at least some of it), it’s so satisfying to watch them come together!
@Lorentari
@Lorentari 2 жыл бұрын
I would have liked to see a comparison to a roundabout, because you aren't getting rid of the left-turn cross over - you are just moving it further away and increasing the footprint of the intersection.
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 2 жыл бұрын
My “roundabouts are not as good as you think” video was done under the exact same conditions. This is better at flowing high density traffic than a roundabout. Every intersection I film on this map is better at flowing high density traffic than a roundabout.
@pandahatbear8209
@pandahatbear8209 3 жыл бұрын
Wild. That is a fun looking intersection
@TheClassyArchitect
@TheClassyArchitect 2 жыл бұрын
This intersection is used frequently at a local highway near where I live. These are their last stage before turning the highway into a full-on freeway.
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Its on the verge of becoming an overpass.
@bgcorporation
@bgcorporation 2 жыл бұрын
Your dry humor and voice reminds me of another youtuber lol. I'm all for it. Love your videos.
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 2 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated! Who’s the other guy?
@courageouschronicler8657
@courageouschronicler8657 3 жыл бұрын
This demo of Node Controller was awesome! Stuff I didn't even know it could do! Yumbl, what are the odds you would be willing to do an in-depth on TM:PE? What I would love to see is a way to setup a light that only changes when it detects a vehicle in an opposing lane. So, for example, the main road traveling N > S would always be green unless a car pulled up to the side road coming from the E. Not even sure it's possible, but if you, or anyone for that matter, know how to do it, that'd be amazing!
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 3 жыл бұрын
I think it is possible. Its all about the flow section of the light controls, which i’m still struggling to understand.
@Doddibot
@Doddibot 3 жыл бұрын
I have a video on my channel where the N-S main road is always green unless there's a tram about to cross on tracks that run E-W. TM:PE can change state "if anybody is waiting". Where this struggles to work is where you have more than just the 2 states, so more than 1 other direction that can be waiting simultaneously.
@shaneintheuk2026
@shaneintheuk2026 3 жыл бұрын
Great work as usual. You are creating really interesting content. Keep up the good work.
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! I want to make things for interesting people to watch and discuss :)
@LadyLexyStarwatcher
@LadyLexyStarwatcher 2 жыл бұрын
@RoadGuyRob did a video on the real world version of these. Quite fascinating stop gap solution.
@n118nw
@n118nw 3 жыл бұрын
I only know of one of these intersections in my city.. and it's used in conjunction with a frontage road for a state highway.. so imagine East/West being much wider with a gap that can accommodate a 2 lane divided limited access highway.
@errikosestdahl
@errikosestdahl 3 жыл бұрын
I had no idea how much potential for crazy intersections Node Controller gives a player
@jonathancool
@jonathancool 3 жыл бұрын
This is just amazing!
@inyobill
@inyobill 2 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking that it might be possible to steal a few seconds at the end of the crossing traffic light to allow the left turning traffic to queue up, and be ready to go when the light turns. There are probably things like this that could be experimented with, depending on the specific traffic pattern. I need to watch your example again.
@27hund1
@27hund1 3 жыл бұрын
Genius. Love it.
@the.skirmisher
@the.skirmisher 3 жыл бұрын
This is next-level! Love your videos!
@YUMBL
@YUMBL 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@hesterclapp9717
@hesterclapp9717 2 жыл бұрын
I would say the aquamarine colour is about a 25CDA3
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