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Pushing for Inclusivity in Skateboarding

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VICE News

2 жыл бұрын

The world of skateboarding can be a very scary place if you’re not a straight cisgender male. From trick names to how products are marketed: sexism, racism and homophobia are deeply entrenched within the culture of skating. VICE News meets with skaters that are doing their part in the decades-long push to make skateboarding a more inclusive space for for women and the queer community.
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@erockromulan9329
@erockromulan9329 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up skateboarding and my experience is that the skate park was one of THE MOST inclusive and supportive places you could go. Even the 'bad' kids would give you props for pushing yourself to get better. What's happening today are a bunch of self-righteous weenies that want a moral hill to stand on... about anything.
@NatsumiTakanawa
@NatsumiTakanawa 2 жыл бұрын
Nah
@Tax_Collector01
@Tax_Collector01 2 жыл бұрын
@@NatsumiTakanawa Did you grew up skateboarding or are you ever going to provide supporting reasoning as to why you disagree? Because if you’re simply seeing this from an outside perspective or you simply had a bad experience in one area, your argument would be invalid because you’re neither part of the community nor are you willing to see things past your narrow view.
@mikerphone.
@mikerphone. 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with this. The victim culture absolutely goes strong today and there's so much evidence to back that up. Most of my life has been spent in the scene and it's always been about inclusivity and acceptance. The skatepark was one of the only places in town where punk kids, aspiring rap artists, drug addicts and preppy kids could be seen giving fist bumps and hugs all around. The trans community is welcome here.
@Tax_Collector01
@Tax_Collector01 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikerphone. Exactly, the skateboarding community of all things is something the left and Vice should support because of how inclusive they are…but give it up to the left to complain about issues where there isn’t.
@makesandskates
@makesandskates 2 жыл бұрын
Well, when you're LGBT and at a skatepark hearing homophobic comments, it wouldn't sound inclusive to you, would it?
@Thankyoukels
@Thankyoukels 2 жыл бұрын
I started skateboarding at 15 and I am now 31. Skateboarding is the most inclusive sports or extracurricular activity I have done my entire life. Nobody cares who you are or what you look like. People just want you to have fun.
@elismoothie8896
@elismoothie8896 2 жыл бұрын
Not according to vice.
@somedude2677
@somedude2677 2 жыл бұрын
Damn straight. This video is so fuckin irritating
@pogolaugh
@pogolaugh 2 жыл бұрын
That may be your experience, but the skate community in different areas are all different. And depending on who you are it could feel inclusive or exclusive.
@elismoothie8896
@elismoothie8896 2 жыл бұрын
@REI SUZUMIYA yea because most boys don’t care about falling and getting hurt. It’s not a sport for the easily defeated.
@tijan8948
@tijan8948 2 жыл бұрын
Not about man or woman, it’s about boy or girl. Did you do this sh*t as a child or not. Period. Most good skaters started as kids and most of them were boys. A little girl that starts skating early can be a good skater as a woman, but if you pick it up after your grown good luck w that.
@Quincycle
@Quincycle 2 жыл бұрын
Next level narcissism
@EYEH8UALL89
@EYEH8UALL89 2 жыл бұрын
The fact is that they got turned pro to cash in on trans and gay skaters who will buy her board. Yall can think otherwise but its the truth
@Baghuul
@Baghuul Жыл бұрын
Who exactly is stopping trans people from skating??? This is so ridiculous lol
@PieOfTetris
@PieOfTetris 2 жыл бұрын
Lol wtf, gender has nothing to do with skateboarding. The only thing you have to push is the board.
@Jayinjapanese
@Jayinjapanese 2 жыл бұрын
They want attention
@cerisejones8061
@cerisejones8061 2 жыл бұрын
Apparently not.
@painandmisery8971
@painandmisery8971 2 жыл бұрын
@Yummy Spaghetti Noodles Nah they def want attention he needs to accept himself and confirm it. if the public dont like it then dont give af. Thats all there is to it bruh
@ahmedrashid3
@ahmedrashid3 2 жыл бұрын
Oakland is one of the most gentrified parts of the country and many people are losing their homes because of big tech buying out the Bay Area. There are a lot of more crippling problems in Oakland than skateboarding.
@damien1781
@damien1781 2 жыл бұрын
Oakland is so ghetto
@AV-nl9gc
@AV-nl9gc 2 жыл бұрын
Lol yea how about corruption
@user-gk9pl6vl5v
@user-gk9pl6vl5v 2 жыл бұрын
I see you're a Channel 5 fan
@RocketmanRockyMatrix
@RocketmanRockyMatrix 2 жыл бұрын
@@damien1781 and the ghetto is being gentrified.
@deejaaay7600
@deejaaay7600 2 жыл бұрын
You'd think right? According to these people, you're wrong. Gender and one's need for social approval is more important. Once this economy comes crashing down, they'll really know what it feels like to be alone.
@kotokid31
@kotokid31 2 жыл бұрын
"Let the skating speak for itself" In other words if you rip, we see that. If you suck, we see that too. That's all there is to it. ✌
@carpo719
@carpo719 2 жыл бұрын
Boom. Facts. I skated for years, this video seems a bit one sided
@jeffbriggs1987
@jeffbriggs1987 2 жыл бұрын
Well her skating spoke for itself. She's not pro. Some company just sponsored her cause she's trans. The person was even male and even with that advantage they're terrible.
@Juneopalcomedy
@Juneopalcomedy 2 жыл бұрын
Wrong
@shomershabbos9781
@shomershabbos9781 2 жыл бұрын
That’s the thing bro, why are skaters so hostile towards people that can’t skate as good?
@pogolaugh
@pogolaugh 2 жыл бұрын
That’s how it should be, but it’s not always.
@jcolterh
@jcolterh 2 жыл бұрын
This is garbage. In the mid 90's I skated with jocks, punks, hip hop kids and women. Everyone was included unless you were wack AF.
@user-dq2ym1nn9k
@user-dq2ym1nn9k 4 ай бұрын
haha truth.
@unbroken1010
@unbroken1010 3 күн бұрын
You sound like you go to the p Diddy after party
@fjaajf
@fjaajf 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm never thought my days of skateboarding focused on someone’s gender/sexuality. We were all about trying to nail a trick.
@matthewosterman9030
@matthewosterman9030 2 жыл бұрын
Ya
@extrm161
@extrm161 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/moaxn4RooN6lh6s New . Hit👌🏿.,
@jamesking1932
@jamesking1932 2 жыл бұрын
r u kidding me?!?! one of the most famous skate mags is literally called 'trans' world skateboard. skating has always been about the trans!!!
@ttc958
@ttc958 2 жыл бұрын
This is one video, stop being emotional.
@ldefaria1
@ldefaria1 2 жыл бұрын
Hah! Grow up dude. If Skateboarding was, then or now, all that "accepting," I've never seen it.
@skipper50634
@skipper50634 2 жыл бұрын
This is Southpark material.
@HazeyCazeyTv
@HazeyCazeyTv 2 жыл бұрын
As a former skater in the 90s, skaters have never gave a crap about anything but skill. This is bs.
@extrm161
@extrm161 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/moaxn4RooN6lh6s New . Hit👌🏿.,
@namikaze_6413
@namikaze_6413 2 жыл бұрын
This video honestly (in my opinion) just feels like a reason to fix a problem that never really existed for the soul purpose of pushing an agenda
@HazeyCazeyTv
@HazeyCazeyTv 2 жыл бұрын
@@namikaze_6413 exactly
@ldefaria1
@ldefaria1 2 жыл бұрын
Sure Hazey, SKILL counts, so too opportunity, a level playing field. You can't get one, without the other. Which is why this thread troubles me so. All you dudes, patting yourselves on the back to push forward some kind of myth and shared "perception" that SKATEBOARDING is "inclusive?" REALLY?!!! I don't know where you were in the 1990's, but I know where I was. Your kumbaya message is lost on me. What I saw were a bunch of insecure "dudes," taking a smoke on the rim, while rolling their eyes as an "other" drops in? Ask some girl skaters how "fab" the 1990's were for THEM, eh? In fact, go further! Ask skateboard athletes with "differences" of any kind beyond "white-male-cis-gendered" (typical) skaters, and you may hear something else. Ask the women athletes, plus those across the spectrum of differences, skin color, ethnicity, culture, language, abilities, and yes, along the spectrum of gender identity/sexuality. MARBIE is breaking new ground with courage and talent. What's the matter with you folks who are so quick to criticize?
@mikequinlivan8842
@mikequinlivan8842 2 жыл бұрын
@@HazeyCazeyTv San Fran and Oakland was ground zero for hating in the 90s. Did you go skating beyond your driveway? I’m not saying this marbie person should be pro. They aren’t on that level. At all. But it’s ridiculous to say in was all copacetic in the 90s
@sircatlusthewise6467
@sircatlusthewise6467 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao bro tf is this garbage lmao, just because there aren’t many people from a certain group partaking in a hobby doesn’t mean the hobby isn’t inclusive
@gradientO
@gradientO 2 жыл бұрын
Golf isn't inclusive! 😭
@Juneopalcomedy
@Juneopalcomedy 2 жыл бұрын
Well if a group of people all feel the same way about something then Maybe we should listen no where in the video did anyone demonize cis men for skating.
@sohammehta9275
@sohammehta9275 2 жыл бұрын
@@Juneopalcomedy lmao, no. We're sick and tired of yall, really. I for once will activately push alphabets out of any activity I participate it
@Juneopalcomedy
@Juneopalcomedy 2 жыл бұрын
@@sohammehta9275 haha okey lol
@dajazman2k
@dajazman2k 16 күн бұрын
Funny how they enter the culture then immidietly isolate themselves with their little queer only groups then claim to be victims.
@pastelpurpledeathbed
@pastelpurpledeathbed 2 жыл бұрын
This is weird since skateboarding is very, VERY inclusive.
@Yourmomshassole
@Yourmomshassole 2 жыл бұрын
Uh, nope.
@pastelpurpledeathbed
@pastelpurpledeathbed 2 жыл бұрын
@@Yourmomshassole uh, yes
@PieOfTetris
@PieOfTetris 2 жыл бұрын
@@Yourmomshassole Yep
@pogolaugh
@pogolaugh 2 жыл бұрын
That might be your experience, doesn’t mean it’s everyone’s.
@PieOfTetris
@PieOfTetris 2 жыл бұрын
@@pogolaugh the same applies to the people in this video. But if you look at the video's description they try to paint it as a general problem within the skateboarding community.
@deejaaay7600
@deejaaay7600 2 жыл бұрын
Why does your sexual preference have to be something other people have to care about?
@OdinOfficialEmcee
@OdinOfficialEmcee 2 жыл бұрын
💯💯💯
@ComradeCatpurrnicus
@ComradeCatpurrnicus 2 жыл бұрын
Sexual preference?? Do you understand the difference between sex, gender, and sexuality? They're all different things. This doesn't have to do with sexuality (who you're attracted to). I love when you people unintentionally show how ignorant you are.
@ManOnTheMoon420
@ManOnTheMoon420 2 жыл бұрын
@@ComradeCatpurrnicus you have comrade in your name no one is going to take you seriously at all
@JJ-pm4jc
@JJ-pm4jc 2 жыл бұрын
@@ManOnTheMoon420 haha 💯
@shaynola1
@shaynola1 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda goes way beyond sexual preference bud
@bigmonmatt
@bigmonmatt 2 жыл бұрын
People wake up everyday and find ways to make themselves feel “oppressed”
@HAMMER_2.2
@HAMMER_2.2 2 жыл бұрын
And there's Vice licking their chops waiting to give them a spotlight
@JoeyYipMusic
@JoeyYipMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Literally
@pogolaugh
@pogolaugh 2 жыл бұрын
People wake up every day and find ways to be a hater.
@thezimra9429
@thezimra9429 2 жыл бұрын
only on vice
@kovy689
@kovy689 2 жыл бұрын
@@pogolaugh Except hating on a subpar video like this one is a good thing. You say it like it’s bad.
@mindblown42069
@mindblown42069 2 жыл бұрын
Skateboarding is already niche in the grand scheme of things. Being trans is relatively rare in any population. Doesn't mean skating isn't inclusive.
@OdinOfficialEmcee
@OdinOfficialEmcee 2 жыл бұрын
💯💯💯
@MrFucktard12345
@MrFucktard12345 2 жыл бұрын
Considering I only started consistently seeing feminine skaters at parks in the past ten years makes me think skating isnt as inclusive as you think. The f- slur was everywhere when I was growing up in skating.
@damien1781
@damien1781 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrFucktard12345 definitely the F word was always tossed around.
@makesandskates
@makesandskates 2 жыл бұрын
Well, when you're LGBT and at a skatepark hearing homophobic comments, it wouldn't sound inclusive to you, would it?
@nassiemartinez4399
@nassiemartinez4399 2 жыл бұрын
I love when people who are already included literally everywhere try to gaslight you into thinking the entire world is inclusive now. Skateboarding is a lot more accepting than other “sports” but even it has a notable population of bigoted people
@adriansnell7686
@adriansnell7686 2 жыл бұрын
Being transgender and a skater I have met some of the most kind and accepting people in my city's skate scene, cisgender dudes, women, other gay people ect. But I have also been called slurs, followed back home and berated, and had to switch parks at one point because of just trying to skate while visibly trans. Vice should know that these two things can exist at one time, and we should know that by the numbers, being a trans woman is hard and dangerous pretty much everywhere that you go, including at the skatepark. - Marbie talking about her problems with transphobia and sexism in the skating community is not "finding something to be oppressed over". she just came on here to be honest. If the skating community is so inclusive already.. why the heavy ratio? If one of our own skaters is talking about an real issue, should this not be the start more of a discussion of support, and not blame? - Why is it that there are skaters here trying to minimize an issue, instead of having empathy, and moving forward so that everyone feels at least just safe to skate? Please understand that if you're not a trans woman you likely will not understand the struggles we go through just existing, but listening to people in amazing communities like this one is a good way to start talking and changing that. Why is your reaction that she is being sensitive and bullshitting when she is clearly talking about things that did happen to her? What about other trans people with the same issues like myself? Man, I'm dishearted with this conversation here and I hope y'all came away with more perspective.
@TheyForcedMyHandLE
@TheyForcedMyHandLE 9 ай бұрын
It seems to me that the decision to go trans comes with a lot of struggles, besides just skating. It's unfortunate the person finds themselves making that decision to begin with.
@eggtoof
@eggtoof 9 ай бұрын
@@TheyForcedMyHandLE It's unfortunate that you made the decision to reply to this thoughtful comment with such stupidity.
@demonofcheese5075
@demonofcheese5075 8 ай бұрын
@@TheyForcedMyHandLE so we should just live our lives incredibly unhappy and just have to deal with that when theres a perfectly effective option to stop all this self hate and dysphoria?
@AlexReyes-ut4up
@AlexReyes-ut4up 7 ай бұрын
Crazy that this is really one of the only comments that have any sort of awareness or reasoning. Thank YOU!!
@chellivision
@chellivision 28 күн бұрын
Exactly my thoughts. I mean, calling these people narcissistic for speaking about their lives? Sorry that they had different experiences with the skate community than you. Even skateboarding, one of the most inclusive communities I know, is far from perfect.
@ChosenOne6666
@ChosenOne6666 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone is a victim.
@rc59191
@rc59191 2 жыл бұрын
@@littledaddy30 you're absolutely right give all your cash to me wouldn't want those faces oppressing you from your wallet.
@Mohawk52x
@Mohawk52x 2 жыл бұрын
This is bullshit, and a cry for attention, Every skater i ever met and i've gone to a lot of different spots and parks in countries, they are always inclusive.
@unbroken1010
@unbroken1010 3 күн бұрын
That's not true 😂
@Ryl33hz
@Ryl33hz 2 жыл бұрын
The real shame here is they didn't include Trans Scooter riders
@user-dq2ym1nn9k
@user-dq2ym1nn9k 4 ай бұрын
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@smellsgood5662
@smellsgood5662 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely not a pro .... Being talented at something is gender neutral .
@quattlebot
@quattlebot 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah... how easy is it to be labeled a pro now??
@robertmason8341
@robertmason8341 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing! That’s a pro nowadays..🤣
@unbroken1010
@unbroken1010 3 күн бұрын
There is no such thing
@hamburg9783
@hamburg9783 Жыл бұрын
Was he ever am? There is no gradient of progression in skateboarding anymore being a "professional" holds no merit or credibility
@thoughtprocess2779
@thoughtprocess2779 2 жыл бұрын
Why do people focus on having somebody that looks like them to be motivated
@Abm5544
@Abm5544 2 жыл бұрын
I know right! There are girl skaterboarders, so she had representation anyway lol
@h2t26
@h2t26 2 жыл бұрын
I grow up watching white super heroes, white almost everything. I'm not white, it didn't bother me at all. I just want a good story I don't care about color or who they do in bed.
@jlopez1017d
@jlopez1017d 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when people were motivated to be the first. You wanted to be the first pro skater on a team, or the first black skater. Representation matters for growing the sport but not for motivation if you want it go out and get it don’t wait for someone else to pave the way
@LilWhitePrivileged
@LilWhitePrivileged 2 жыл бұрын
Because its called woke cultural Marxism and its meant to destroy society.
@extrm161
@extrm161 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/moaxn4RooN6lh6s New . Hit👌🏿.,
@ogchocolate93
@ogchocolate93 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't looking for another reason to not skate Krux trucks. But I found it anyways lol.
@keviniosue7009
@keviniosue7009 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know Chris Farley was a pro skateboarder
@GoofyFootersRule
@GoofyFootersRule 2 жыл бұрын
If shes pro. Then I've been pro for over 20 yrs
@tma4137
@tma4137 5 ай бұрын
He*
@leighluvsrats
@leighluvsrats 4 ай бұрын
@@tma4137their a she.
@Emskates483
@Emskates483 2 ай бұрын
@@tma4137 no she yall cis straight male skateboarders say you aren’t transphobic but then do this bs
@IbrahimMuhammad_114
@IbrahimMuhammad_114 2 ай бұрын
He
@clairemendoza5402
@clairemendoza5402 2 жыл бұрын
Success is not final; failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts."
@monicamaria6101
@monicamaria6101 2 жыл бұрын
I owe my success to having listened respectfuly to the very best advice, and then going away and doing the exact opposite.
@brendacarla4657
@brendacarla4657 2 жыл бұрын
How do we get paid?
@jennydave9666
@jennydave9666 2 жыл бұрын
Is it through online investment platform?
@patricksmith3896
@patricksmith3896 2 жыл бұрын
Yes through online investment platform
@ahmedjoe4528
@ahmedjoe4528 2 жыл бұрын
i get paid directly to my bank account
@ricardoguanipa8275
@ricardoguanipa8275 2 жыл бұрын
"The lack of LGBTQ representation in the Domino Community is frightening"
@foxfire1229
@foxfire1229 2 жыл бұрын
Why does anyone need representation to be a skater? Only serious issue I can see is if you're being bullied, and you can believe that is something EVERYONE faces. Do like the Jamaicans did with bobsledding, they were very successful.
@specrtre
@specrtre 2 жыл бұрын
The lack of LGBTQ representation in card stacking is also frightening 😂😂
@Baddknewz
@Baddknewz 2 жыл бұрын
@@specrtre you almost forgot about curling
@chiselteeth6979
@chiselteeth6979 2 жыл бұрын
I’d say it’s pretty black and white
@NATURALSELECTION693
@NATURALSELECTION693 9 ай бұрын
Lgbtqxyz 🤢 🤮
@promisethomas8810
@promisethomas8810 Жыл бұрын
the most cringe i have ever seen involving skateboarding i might switch to bmx after this
@Broken_Balisong
@Broken_Balisong Жыл бұрын
Already did learned how to bunny hop in 2 days and went down a stair set 😂
@SockiThePoser
@SockiThePoser 4 ай бұрын
BMX is cringe in itself
@alexbrufladt171
@alexbrufladt171 2 жыл бұрын
Damn i wasn't ready for this amount of cringe🤣🤣🤣
@parrishtv1991
@parrishtv1991 2 жыл бұрын
Many people just want to stay victimized because it gives them more attention. Skateboarding is one of the most inclusive sports in the world.
@tyskbulle
@tyskbulle 2 жыл бұрын
Skating culture wasn't inclusive? But talk about inventing a problem.
@Psillytripper
@Psillytripper 2 жыл бұрын
lol yeah for reallllllll lol no one telling anyyyyone not to skate... shoot we would always try and get girls and people to skate in highschool!??!?!?!? are some people dicks in this world yeah... but i doubt the skating commmunity as a whole.... lol wtf fake problem if ur trans gay bi lesbian girl and wana skate please by all means go for it no one saying dont but a few weird assholes....
@bonster101
@bonster101 2 жыл бұрын
so you're, saying shes lying?
@bonster101
@bonster101 2 жыл бұрын
@Only Racists Support Biden see this comment proves the point of the video lol. Sad little boy.
@bonster101
@bonster101 2 жыл бұрын
@Only Racists Support Biden again you're proving the point of the video. but go on and help them make their point
@WhiteTransAreOppressed
@WhiteTransAreOppressed 2 жыл бұрын
@@bonster101 You're not a leftist you're A liberal. Trans cannot be leftists.
@Guerrilla727
@Guerrilla727 2 жыл бұрын
My skatepark is nothing but inclusive. People from all different walks of life bonding and having fun. Creating scenarios to be offended by is getting old.
@Guerrilla727
@Guerrilla727 2 жыл бұрын
@Liberty over everything This exactly.
@CivilDefenseMinistry
@CivilDefenseMinistry 2 жыл бұрын
I've personally seen it at some of the parks near me.
@CMDR_Lani
@CMDR_Lani 2 жыл бұрын
It's a good idea to start practicing NOT invalidating other people's experiences just because they differ from your own.
@carpo719
@carpo719 2 жыл бұрын
amen. agreed. This has to stop
@somedude2677
@somedude2677 2 жыл бұрын
So fucking old
@theHUMANAUT1
@theHUMANAUT1 2 жыл бұрын
Skating is a genderless sport
@youtubeuser693
@youtubeuser693 2 жыл бұрын
Next thing you know people will be complaining there isn’t LGBTQ representation in cool math games.
@patricksalish
@patricksalish 2 жыл бұрын
Talk about creating a problem based off your own insecurities- the narcissistic epidemic is in full swing destroying everything
@halfcupofsun3760
@halfcupofsun3760 2 жыл бұрын
You’re not understanding the experiences being highlighted and discussed here. Discrimination happens, sexism and homophobia are real. Go watch old Skateline episodes and hear how Gary talks about female skateboarders and their bodies compared with how he talks about male skaters. Gary is great and he’s gotten better but that’s the kind of attitudes that actually really harm and isolate.
@adams4377
@adams4377 2 жыл бұрын
@Astrid Alaniz You're literally a White man. Its easier and more accepted for you to pretend to be a woman than it was for Muhammad Ali to change his name.
@adams4377
@adams4377 2 жыл бұрын
@Astrid Alaniz Dude you are literally a biological man. You can identify as whatever you want but you are literally a man. You will never be a real woman nor ever truly experience what its like to be an actual woman cause you are a man with male dna
@adams4377
@adams4377 2 жыл бұрын
@Astrid Alaniz The majority of people agreed with Dave Chappelle sir
@halfcupofsun3760
@halfcupofsun3760 2 жыл бұрын
@Astrid Alaniz I completely agree, these sh*t stirrers in the comments are so out of touch with the possibility that some people might have different experiences to them and are completely lacking in empathy.
@Psillytripper
@Psillytripper 2 жыл бұрын
seems like a really rampant problem in our society thats totally keeping us back.... i see hooligans chasing lbgtq all the time with their skateboards saying HEY YOU YOU CANT SKATE........ oh wait thats never happened in my entire life being around skaters and my gay friends who were skating with us..... like come on.....
@halfcupofsun3760
@halfcupofsun3760 2 жыл бұрын
So just because within your narrow world of experience transphobia or sexism has apparently never happened, that means it doesn't exist and doesn't deserve to be given any amount of attention... Have you tried empathy at all?
@SandlapperSam
@SandlapperSam 2 жыл бұрын
@@halfcupofsun3760 and just because somebody with a skateboard says something mean doesnt mean theres a problem in the skateboard community. Everybody was bullied growing up its part of growing up. There are mean people in every single sport, hobby club and profession. We dont care if you are a woman or want to dress like a woman and skate. Do whatever floats your boat but stop acting like a victim and trying to make the skateboard culture WOKE because we dont want that political crap in our culture.
@Margaritamadman420
@Margaritamadman420 6 ай бұрын
@@halfcupofsun3760never seen any of that and I’ve been to a bunch of parks
@unbroken1010
@unbroken1010 3 күн бұрын
You sound like you go to the p Diddy after party
@georgebaker5038
@georgebaker5038 2 жыл бұрын
their goal isn't inclusivity, inclusivity is just a means for them to sell more inventory
@foxfx8340
@foxfx8340 2 жыл бұрын
Who? Trans skate shop owners?
@misanthrope5063
@misanthrope5063 2 жыл бұрын
Propaganda
@alecfleming373
@alecfleming373 2 жыл бұрын
Is this a joke?! Serious about this... I have been rejected from everything in life, and the ONLY thing people are cool with me doing is Skateboarding... I can't kickflip, barely ollie, but, yet to be bullied by them. And yeah, sure it happens... But it's nothing to working a job, or trying to get into a unique hobby. Skating is the best place for people. Self focus, learning how to grow and expand one's self. Keep skateboarding legal!
@WSFM_Rex
@WSFM_Rex 2 жыл бұрын
💯🙏♥️
@cloudoffear515
@cloudoffear515 2 жыл бұрын
This literally wasn't a problem to begin with
@ordinaryhand
@ordinaryhand 2 жыл бұрын
just because it isn't a problem for YOU doesn't mean it's not a problem. there are women, non-binary and trans skaters in this video telling you it's a problem.
@zuzusuperfly8363
@zuzusuperfly8363 2 жыл бұрын
@@ordinaryhand He didn't say it wasn't a problem for him. He said it wasn't a problem. VICE made a whole ass video of these people skating, and one of the trans people is a pro. That's the opposite of being excluded. Being a minority and being excluded isn't the same thing.
@sohammehta9275
@sohammehta9275 2 жыл бұрын
@@ordinaryhand you're not a victim julie lmao
@agafonmur9179
@agafonmur9179 2 жыл бұрын
As a Russian, I am pleased to see how America is dying and degenerating. Keep up the good work, guys, and you don't even need to be grabbed.
@Joeded
@Joeded Жыл бұрын
May I come to Russia? 🥺
@rc59191
@rc59191 2 жыл бұрын
Vice if a problem doesn't exist we'll make it exist!
@davidz2562
@davidz2562 2 жыл бұрын
They insist on peniswomen everywhere!
@rc59191
@rc59191 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidz2562 lol they have articles about how not wanting to date trans people makes you homophobic.
@ldefaria1
@ldefaria1 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidz2562 OMG...gag yourself
@BlackCeII
@BlackCeII 2 жыл бұрын
This gives a whole new meaning to Transworld skateboarding
@tannerblack5249
@tannerblack5249 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@OdinOfficialEmcee
@OdinOfficialEmcee 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@eatass5627
@eatass5627 2 жыл бұрын
Lmfao yessss
@SIMSNYC
@SIMSNYC 2 жыл бұрын
🤣
@pckldplmfshcm
@pckldplmfshcm 2 жыл бұрын
Did someone call 911 yet? We need the police!
@JordanScottMills
@JordanScottMills 2 жыл бұрын
"Ruining another innocent activity with our political posturing" would have been a better title.
@elismoothie8896
@elismoothie8896 2 жыл бұрын
yesssir! 🙌
@gabrielleritter7223
@gabrielleritter7223 2 жыл бұрын
Get over it. It’s sharing. It’s a position that opens minds. Stop getting so hurt
@JordanScottMills
@JordanScottMills 2 жыл бұрын
@@gabrielleritter7223 Opens minds to what? Are you genuinely socially inept enough to assume i was hurt
@johnduddy2359
@johnduddy2359 2 жыл бұрын
Being a niche of a niche is so isolating......
@muskepticsometimes9133
@muskepticsometimes9133 2 жыл бұрын
Just because fewer blacks choose a hobby don't mean it's not inclusive
@clenchprism9312
@clenchprism9312 2 жыл бұрын
Fr lol
@adamjones3818
@adamjones3818 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine using the word “blacks” unironically
@flossyraven
@flossyraven 2 жыл бұрын
What does black people have to do with the LGBT community wanting to be part of the skate culture? The black community and LGBT community has not immerged as one and definitely not unified not matter what the media and anybody else it trying to push it to be so. The white, Hispanic, Asian, and Arab communities aren't being forced to immerge with the LGBT community so why is everyone trying to force it on the black community? I already know the answer but people need to stop being ignorant and stop believing the black and LGBT is one community. No where in the video did it say black people feel excluded from skate culture but in your mind you automatically associated the LGBT community with black people. Seriously it's sick how obsessed some people are with bp. Like people can be talking about climate change or candy and people like you will somehow bring up black people. Extremely weird.
@sohammehta9275
@sohammehta9275 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamjones3818 snowflake. Its just a word lmao.
@Jasonsmith-sr1ke
@Jasonsmith-sr1ke 7 ай бұрын
@@sohammehta9275 Smelly Indian
@gladtownghost
@gladtownghost 2 жыл бұрын
Skateboarding is inclusive already. These people just want to tell everyone they're trans, we get it.
@AllHopeIsLost1134
@AllHopeIsLost1134 2 жыл бұрын
They replaced vegans as the most insufferable people on the planet.
@SandlapperSam
@SandlapperSam 2 жыл бұрын
Stop buying the products of the skate companies that are going woke so they will stop going along with this crap.
@RanDom-vd9xk
@RanDom-vd9xk 2 жыл бұрын
This is such an American issue..
@DontKnow-hr5my
@DontKnow-hr5my 2 жыл бұрын
Is this supposed to be a parody?
@hmq9052
@hmq9052 2 жыл бұрын
I was so bad at skateboarding that I decided to bury myself in academia. I'm now Emiritus Professor of Perfect Balance at the University of Oxford. But I can barely walk round a corner. Never give up 💪
@zeekthegeek4538
@zeekthegeek4538 2 жыл бұрын
I totally believe you dude 😂 and your grammar is surely befitting of a "professor" of oxford lmfao
@Tax_Collector01
@Tax_Collector01 2 жыл бұрын
What? I genuinely do not understand why Vice made this documentary, literally anyone could grab a skateboard, go to a skatepark and people will support you; if old folks can skateboard, so can you. The skateboard community of all things should be left alone by Vice, there are other pressing matters that are worth Vice’s resources and our time. This is utterly stupid.
@NatsumiTakanawa
@NatsumiTakanawa 2 жыл бұрын
Not even true lol
@ManOnTheMoon420
@ManOnTheMoon420 2 жыл бұрын
@@NatsumiTakanawa coming from someone who doesn’t leave the house your opinion is null and void
@youngdinero9097
@youngdinero9097 2 жыл бұрын
@Astrid Alaniz it is true…when you force people to accept you it only makes them despise you..just a heads up
@ragingclue842
@ragingclue842 2 жыл бұрын
VICE makes some completely incorrect and absurd statements sometimes and the community disagrees with them by disliking the video and commenting their opinionsand experiences, VICE completely ignores this and soon when dislike numbers are disabled they'll be able to just live completely in an echo chamber.
@cactuscoolest4564
@cactuscoolest4564 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not even sure what point you’re trying to make? I’m so confused what side you’re on
@foxfx8340
@foxfx8340 2 жыл бұрын
@Deen Chaser Because the video must've hit a nerve, lots of defensive comments on here saying "this doesn't happen", but this person is talking about their experience, people don't wanna acknowledge when they exclude people or they're a part of something toxic, and anyone that's experienced that negative side of it must definitely be lying.
@bomen330
@bomen330 Жыл бұрын
You sound more mad then the actual people in the video
@DIRECTEDBYH
@DIRECTEDBYH Жыл бұрын
if there was a trans who rocks it and doesn‘t creep at people for validation about their gender, i swear to god that person would have the same respect as anyone else. but crybabies are not respected in skateboarding
@grazilla1192
@grazilla1192 Жыл бұрын
Can't even get real women into skateboarding 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@JJ-pm4jc
@JJ-pm4jc 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine just not caring what others thought of you? Imagine not having a victim mentality and just go about with your life? This person isn’t being chased out of a skatepark with pitchforks, this person is just insecure.
@OdinOfficialEmcee
@OdinOfficialEmcee 2 жыл бұрын
💯💯💯
@mikerphone.
@mikerphone. 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. It's not about skating it's about them, they needed to grow to see we were always okay with them.
@makesandskates
@makesandskates 2 жыл бұрын
Well, when there are still people in the LGBT community still experiencing harassment and even some are still attacked and killed simply for being gay, trans, etc. It a little more than "just being insecure"
@nassiemartinez4399
@nassiemartinez4399 2 жыл бұрын
You seem insecure, you didn’t even watch the video because it disagrees with you
@JJ-pm4jc
@JJ-pm4jc 2 жыл бұрын
@@nassiemartinez4399 not insecure at all but thanks though
@goldeneagle3088
@goldeneagle3088 2 жыл бұрын
Is this satire?
@NotEpoch
@NotEpoch 2 жыл бұрын
its the most inclusive sport in the world. everyone is welcome. why do you think you need to push for inclusivity in a sport where it has always existed? stop gaslighting
@thelegend1132
@thelegend1132 2 жыл бұрын
I feel really sick seeing this. What has the world come to? Why create a problem where there’s none in the first place?
@MedicineofSound
@MedicineofSound 2 жыл бұрын
Skateboarding saved my life. The inclusivity and continual encouragement after 1 trick that was nailed, or even 1 nearly made it. If I bailed I would either be helped up or not even be acknowledged.. let alone made fun of! I feel like the only thing that was non inclusive was my perception of myself in those days. The skate park homies definitely helped break those inner walls of self doubt.
@tonynature
@tonynature 2 жыл бұрын
👏👏👏 so true
@howiethehowitzer7398
@howiethehowitzer7398 2 жыл бұрын
I'm tired of spoiled kids complaining about what a bunch of broke, unemployed homies at a skatepark think about them.
@user-dq2ym1nn9k
@user-dq2ym1nn9k 4 ай бұрын
HAHA
@cheesy1nacho924
@cheesy1nacho924 2 жыл бұрын
This entire video is an oxymoron
@mrsrandommademedoit3387
@mrsrandommademedoit3387 2 жыл бұрын
I cant speak for skateboarding everywhere... but i have never been apart of a community that is a OPEN and INCLUSIVE as skateing. I think if you WANT to feel opressed.. and you go looking for it.. you will find it no matter what.
@73Goodfellow
@73Goodfellow 2 жыл бұрын
Does every one of us need to feel represented in everything?
@Dazen101
@Dazen101 2 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@jingbot1071
@jingbot1071 2 жыл бұрын
Would be nice.
@jocelyncooper1738
@jocelyncooper1738 2 жыл бұрын
I personally don’t
@parkavenue2786
@parkavenue2786 2 жыл бұрын
No
@SandlapperSam
@SandlapperSam 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldnt it be racist and sexist to say you need a woman or a person of color or a gay person in your sport or hobby to look up to and represent you? So a black girl could could not look up to a white man because of their skill. Instead they need somebody the same skin color and same gender and same sexual orientation to feel represented and included? Is that not doing exactly what they claim to be against and judging everything and everyone based on race gender and sexual orientation and not by their personality skill and merits?
@radioactive4788
@radioactive4788 2 жыл бұрын
I have never seen more inclusive people than skaters, this is a none existing problem, skateparks and skateboarding have always been a sports for the low middle class , social rejects, junkies, minorities.
@WSFM_Rex
@WSFM_Rex 2 жыл бұрын
💯🙏♥️
@jingbot1071
@jingbot1071 2 жыл бұрын
I've heard dumb teenage skater dudes spit more slurs than an unsupervised child on XBOX live, tho. Different skating communities are just that, different. Some suck, others don't.
@carpo719
@carpo719 2 жыл бұрын
This is dumb. The title made me laugh. If you skate well, you skate well. There is no need for 'inclusivity', you are either a skater or not. I knew many girl skaters.... but most women do not want to skate. People make comments everywhere, you gotta thicken up your skin, and stop assuming that everyone is against you. We see the sea change, looking at the votes on videos like this. People have had it with victim culture being medias go to for content. THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE for anyone except the few people who are insecure. I skated for a decade, saw inclusivity everywhere.
@Amirhesamyan
@Amirhesamyan 2 жыл бұрын
Is this a joke? Skateboarding is literraly THE MOST inclusive thing. Why report on a problem that does not exist?
@Ezekiel-7_25
@Ezekiel-7_25 2 жыл бұрын
Awwww...you have a problem... You sound like a transphobe ..are you scared ?
@braunarsch
@braunarsch 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ezekiel-7_25 disagreeing with someone = transphobia?
@makesandskates
@makesandskates 2 жыл бұрын
Just because it's one of the most inclusive sport, doesn't mean it's 100% inclusive. When you're LGBT and at a skatepark hearing homophobic comments, it wouldn't sound inclusive to you, would it?
@cockus123
@cockus123 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ezekiel-7_25 you sound so DAMB
@kronickruesader
@kronickruesader 2 жыл бұрын
You want special treatment, not inclusivity.
@theturtlewombat
@theturtlewombat 2 жыл бұрын
This is beautiful and all but how do we feel about biologically born men competing against biological born females?
@peruperu-jj8zs
@peruperu-jj8zs Жыл бұрын
she's not a competition skater.
@InspectorRoof
@InspectorRoof 2 жыл бұрын
This looks like Tim Dillion pretending to be a pro skateboarder to troll VICE
@poopoocaca8079
@poopoocaca8079 2 жыл бұрын
life in the big city
@typ044
@typ044 2 жыл бұрын
I was gonna say Ozzy lol
@Lot_2023
@Lot_2023 Жыл бұрын
Congrats. That takes real balls.
@hamburg9783
@hamburg9783 Жыл бұрын
Lmao
@Aeslyth
@Aeslyth 2 жыл бұрын
"being X and trans is rare, there's not many" Lmao. Maybe because there's not an epidemic of trans affliction...
@ToastyCoClothing
@ToastyCoClothing 2 жыл бұрын
cant say the same about programming...
@cook.b6285
@cook.b6285 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the connection between skating and this issue isnt really there. Skateparks are super inclusive tbh
@Gride9782781
@Gride9782781 2 жыл бұрын
do me a favor, go to the berrics and click on any post with a woman/trans person and read the comments.
@cook.b6285
@cook.b6285 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gride9782781 the berrics are the most exclusive skatepark in the usa. If they are douche bags thats on the berrics fanbase, not skaters as a whole. Ill check it out though
@twuandixon8675
@twuandixon8675 Жыл бұрын
Lol the desperation to be a victim is off the charts.
@ashxc
@ashxc Жыл бұрын
Saying skateboarding is "most inclusive" is relative and doesn't mean actually inclusive. That a trans woman who was still presenting as masculine would have had a better time at a skatepark or spot than on a football field doesn't negate the fact that there were problems with homophobia and transphobia especially in the past. Just because people talked about it less doesn't mean it didn't happen. lol I can guarantee you most anyone asking why representation matters has never been truly marginalized in society as a whole. Being bullied by the jocks in high school doesn't count. And VICE did a wonderful job of highlighting all the people in the comment section who missed the point spectacularly. No one is condemning skateboarding. The point was to highlight growth in skate culture over the years. More people participating in skating because more diverse people are OPENLY paving the way is something that should be praised.
@jimreplicant
@jimreplicant 7 ай бұрын
I love how the boy is complaining how skate parks are boy dominated spaces😂 what a clown
@OhyesSofresh
@OhyesSofresh 2 жыл бұрын
Rotflmao 😂 😂 ...Vice is just trolling at this point
@phsycobillyfreakout
@phsycobillyfreakout 2 жыл бұрын
fr having the dude pushing all the chicks up to the ramp cracked me up
@HazeyCazeyTv
@HazeyCazeyTv 2 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah lol
@Carboxylated
@Carboxylated 2 жыл бұрын
blah blah blah who cares. Just skateboard and stop worrying what others think or the name calling if there is any. I have been in the skating scene for 20+ years and I have never seen bullying happen at the parks or on the street with skaters. NEVER...and we had a gay dude in our circle of skater friends and everyone treated him with respect because HE COULD SKATE! We had black dudes, mexican dudes, girls, white dudes, and even an asian in my group of skate buds as well. This is scratching the bottom of the barrel vice and this trans person seems to be doing just fine being a skater and trans. shake my damn head on this micro doc. sheesh.....
@jeffbriggs1987
@jeffbriggs1987 2 жыл бұрын
haha that is not a pro skater. some company just sponsored them cause theyre trans.
@ryuno2097
@ryuno2097 2 жыл бұрын
Stop creating a problem when there is none.
@harvey3o776
@harvey3o776 2 жыл бұрын
Just cause your a man who thinks there a woman and you can ride a skateboard isn’t a reason to look up to you 😂😂
@maga_skater4207
@maga_skater4207 2 жыл бұрын
No it just goes to show it couldn't be sponsored as a man so it had to take the shine of a female.. sick pricks
@yakub3962
@yakub3962 2 жыл бұрын
Are they going to call the skateboard misogynistic and transphobic for them not being able to do tricks or will they just demand the rules to change?
@davidjoost
@davidjoost 3 ай бұрын
there is nothing uninclusive about skateboarding
@geraltofrivian516
@geraltofrivian516 2 жыл бұрын
Remember when Vice did hard-hitting reporting, and not spotlight stories on sub groups of sub groups and fringe groups desperately seeking attention?
@Ryl33hz
@Ryl33hz 2 жыл бұрын
somebody, unplug this facts machine!!!
@sleeptime5464
@sleeptime5464 2 жыл бұрын
The real question is.. how is this person pro.
@Caniballe
@Caniballe 2 жыл бұрын
My question is: what makes someone become a pro? Getting a sponsorship from any local brand is enough?
@J.G.Wentworth69420
@J.G.Wentworth69420 2 жыл бұрын
@@Caniballe Not really idiot.
@Ryl33hz
@Ryl33hz 2 жыл бұрын
because Krux saw a potential $$$$ opportunity, have be the first to start raking the $$$ in from the trans community too!
@KCinSD84
@KCinSD84 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see other people getting tired of this cringey BS.
@MidNiteR32
@MidNiteR32 Жыл бұрын
And it’s films like this the reason why Vice went bankrupt.
@imacooldude
@imacooldude 25 күн бұрын
I wish everyone would stop putting emphasis on inclusion, race, sex, gender, politics in skateboarding. Just let it be skateboarding and just that. The skating is what we care about not the identity of the person on the board.
@MrFixIt79
@MrFixIt79 2 ай бұрын
I see nothing positive here.
@iloveyouamberappel
@iloveyouamberappel 2 жыл бұрын
Pushing for inclusivity. Welcome to my girls/trans only skate camp SMH
@jlopez1017d
@jlopez1017d 2 жыл бұрын
Real inclusivity isn’t what they’re after they want superiority.
@tommoa7xx
@tommoa7xx 2 жыл бұрын
Skateboarding has always been very culturally inclusive, the main complaint of this video seems to be that its full of men, therefore its not inclusive. Seems pretty sexist, but whatever.
@AllHopeIsLost1134
@AllHopeIsLost1134 2 жыл бұрын
Why do these people always feel the need to get on a soap box and preach about how stunning and brave they are? This all has gone long past cringe, and has arrived at insufferable, and will eventually make it to insulting.
@reinodjanghardt8604
@reinodjanghardt8604 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been insulted for years. These f*ckers are literally hoarding happiness away from me. What a time to be a young boy, when predators try to snatch you around every corner & it’s mandated that you let them otherwise you’re shunned. Then you’re alone, & feel like you need to start acting like a lady to have friends.
@leighluvsrats
@leighluvsrats 4 ай бұрын
Cry about it?
@rippedhits
@rippedhits 2 жыл бұрын
Skated for 20 years. Never cared about skaters “gender identity”. We were all their to just skate and have fun man.If you skated and were a decent person you were cool with us! Don’t put yourself in a bubble future generation!🤙🏼☮️💯
@maryharlow420
@maryharlow420 2 жыл бұрын
Hell ya
@RyanMan767
@RyanMan767 2 жыл бұрын
bullshit. im calling you out right now, 100% if you had a trans kid around you, your group would make a thing about it. full stop, dont even pretend like that wouldnt have been the case.
@maryharlow420
@maryharlow420 2 жыл бұрын
Wow Ryan....maybe you got picked on , back in the day? Let it go man....ya, I could see a bit of "under your skin" thrown out....that's what checks you right? How you deal with a bit of teasing goes a long way to how much more ya get teased , right? Anybody who's Human, has felt it...
@zeekthegeek4538
@zeekthegeek4538 2 жыл бұрын
@@RyanMan767 wow way to make assumptions about someone lol
@lopez8872
@lopez8872 2 жыл бұрын
@@RyanMan767 calm down ryan.
@ozzybedell2700
@ozzybedell2700 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but you're pro? like you do have talent but these clips aren't anything special. Also, no one is not allowing a female or a trans person to skate, just less girls tend to skate, and there is a very small amount of trans people in the world.
@liamur069
@liamur069 2 жыл бұрын
Vice what are you actually talking about. Skating is a subculture that is just about skating. No one cares who you bang, or what you look like. They just care if you hog the bowl.
@Gride9782781
@Gride9782781 2 жыл бұрын
You must not have had any skate friends older than 10.
@skepticskull2518
@skepticskull2518 2 жыл бұрын
These people are simply DESPERATE for attention. Vice giving them exactly what they want. 👍🏽
@davidunderwood4341
@davidunderwood4341 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but he's a dude. I love the skateboarding skill of Marbie and would never hate on him, but I wouldn't play make believe to appease him either. A guy skater with that skill would never even make it on an amateur team. No hate, just stating facts.
@ldefaria1
@ldefaria1 2 жыл бұрын
So, you all think skateboarding is a kumbaya sport representing absolute inclusion and tolerance? I’d respectfully disagree. While I’ve never even dared to step on a skateboard, I have spent nearly 20 years in skateparks, across the country, even internationally (if Canada counts), attending local and national skateboard competitions from the mid-1990s to the present. That’s the job of a mom, watching over her daughter as she evolved into a pro-skater. While on the sidelines, I witnessed with shock and pain, the profound degree of negativity, turf wars (“no ‘girls’ allowed here!”), bravado and verbal bashing, young skateboarding women often experience from male skateboarders. I’d say these women have worked harder, faster, stronger to assert some degree of legitimacy, let alone needed sponsors, and entitlement reflective of their skill and accomplishments, than most of you ‘boys’ out there. It’s nearly laughable reading the comments here - all MALE - attesting to the “inclusive” nature of the sport. That’s not the history and not representative of the present in many parks across this country. Sexism, racism, and homophobia are deeply entrenched within the culture of your “idealized” perspective on the skating world. While profoundly hard for women to find their place (still vulnerable) in the world of skateboarding, it’s even more difficult for the LGBTQ-I folks, ditto those of color. By sheer need, they’ve begun to find and create a safe place for their athleticism among their peers. You have a problem with that? So, if you’re so inclusive-oriented, why are the efforts of LGBTQ-I, specifically the TRANS community, let alone people of color, be an issue? Why are their attempts to assert and affirm THEIR rights and validity in the skateboarding community be an issue? Please reflect and respond (intelligent/reflective?) if possible. ~ Lisa D PS: Just in case you doubt the need, there are multiple documented recent histories of assaults, even death, upon trans skateboarding folk. Links provided below www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-03-16/transgender-woman-beaten-with-skateboard-in-costa-mesa www.nytimes.com/2019/04/15/us/transgender-woman-dallas.html www.advocate.com/politics/transgender/2014/07/03/watch-another-atlanta-trans-woman-brutally-assaulted www.buzzfeed.com/tonymerevick/graphic-video-shows-brutal-attack-in-atlanta
@bmer92k86
@bmer92k86 2 жыл бұрын
If you stop making it about gender or race and just call everyone a skater you solve your problems problem is y'all want to be special
@macwoods8011
@macwoods8011 2 жыл бұрын
You are not owed anything in this world by anyone
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