Pushing My Japa 365 Pro To Its Limit

I have had some people ask about what this processor can take, this video is for you.
Let me know what you would like to see next
0:00 Intro
1:53 1st Set of Wood
3:35 10" Hard Maple
4:52 13" Red Oak
7:49 9" Hard Maple
9:46 2nd Set of Wood
10:56 10" Red Oak
13:20 12" White Oak
14:40 10" White Oak
16:07 10" Red Oak
17:33 13" White Oak
18:55 Final Set of Wood
20:09 9" Ash
23:15 10" Ash
25:35 14" Birch
30:58 Conclusion

[@kentbaumann8218]

It still amazes me how that little thing can push a 13” piece through an 8 way. Yet people try to compare it to a box store splitter that struggles to push a 13” piece through a single wedge. The label on the box store splitter might say 28 ton, but do the math! You sir have a great set up, a small fast processor and a commercial splitter for the win!

[@nelsonridgefarm]

Great demos, thanks so much!

[@stevesedgwick5789]

Great video, you certainly put the machine through its maximum possible speed and wood types.

[@jeffmoore2351]

Thank you Jacob for taking the time to run through your firewood processor. Aussie Jeff

[@MetsaMachines]

Great video Jacob! I’d venture to say the 6 way would have split almost everything without a hiccup, but your video clearly states pushing the limits. I’m quite impressed by what you’re putting through the 8 way. All from a processor rated at 7 tons.

[@williswoodproducts]

I would have to agree with you. As you can see in the video I was super impressed at what it would split with its rated tonnage. I even doubted it at first saying I would have to change out wedges. But this machine surprised every time I run it. I absolutely love it

[@mjmtreeservicemaintenance2940]

It amazes me how people complain about something they have no knowledge of. I ordered a 365 Pro knowing it wasn't going to process larger logs. Like you said, it isn't a $75k processor. I ordered it to process smaller diameter to 14" logs. The rest of my logs that are bigger will be processed through my Eastonmade 22-28 with a boxwedge or a 6 way. I can process any log that I want with the 22-28 that a processor can't. I don't care who builds it or what the cost of it is. Everything has is designed purpose and limits. Do not buy something for a purpose that it is not designed to do then bad mouth it or question it. The 365 Pro is a damn good machine and I don't even have it yet.

[@williswoodproducts]

I totally agree with you

[@robertcote5132]

thank you for the good video Cheers 👍

[@brandondvorak4438]

Very well said. Great video

[@MrScuba1]

I have the same trouble sometimes splitting on my dyna sc-16 you learn that sometimes you just have to flip that round over and split from the other end nice video

[@gnatisfaction]

Thanks for the information :-)

[@knottwworking]

Nice setup

[@susangortva7939]

thank you

[@theforestpassage7344]

Nice video

[@micjubba709]

Lovly I could do that all day 😁nice go watch also great machine seems strong 💪

[@aldredske6197]

Have you ever put your logs on small end forward? I do believe that most of the blocks would split easier than butt first. That way you can adjust your height of your wedge up as you are going through the log easier than trying to adjust it down with the last block in the wedge.

[@williswoodproducts]

I don’t think I have ever tried that but that makes way more sense! I will have to try it

[@bwillan]

Also take into account that some wood species split easier than others. Elm is stringy, gum is stringy, yellow birch is know to be hard to split. I am sure you are familiar with Joe at Ohio Wood Burner. He specializes in the big 4 (ash, oak, cherry, maple). I think pairing the Japa 365 with a vertical splitter like the Eastonmade Axis and you'll be able to handle all sizes of logs that get sent your way.

[@williswoodproducts]

I would have to totally agree with you. I get what I can take. But the wood screw helps me out a ton

[@mikenix2368]

Like your videos

[@jakebredthauer5100]

I was wondering about modifying your eight-way knife into a 6-way knife by cutting out two of the pieces on the top half so that it would be asymmetrical, having four openings in the bottom half and two in the top half. Your idea of respliting lets you do large rounds with a small machine. I think that you have explained the situation very well. Some of these people need to appreciate what the machine can do and not be so concerned about what it cannot do. If you have a 60 inch slasher circular blade, you are still limited. There is a diversity of processors available for a diversity of needs. This video has gotten many views and I too thought that it was interesting.

[@williswoodproducts]

So I have been thinking about making a different style 6 way knife other than the one it came with. Similar to the 4 way knife but maybe on the top side of the 4 way have 2 vertical knifes. Kind of hard to explain but might make a video about it

[@jakebredthauer5100]

@@williswoodproducts If you told Japa (Bob) what you wanted and why you wanted it, perhaps they would send one to you for R&D.

[@jakebredthauer5100]

@@williswoodproducts Japa may have not yet designed a knife for the specific purpose of using it as a respliting knife, It would be a manual box-wedge. You could make it so that you get four good pieces from the bottom and one piece from the v-shaped top. Counting the top piece, the 5-way knife has four below and one above. What do you think? You are the man who has been doing it.

[@jakebredthauer5100]

@@williswoodproducts An inside wood storage shelf may be useful, I don't know. Not a solid shelf --- two supports.

[@williswoodproducts]

There’s honestly not much room inside there for storing anything. I have my cousin on the outfeed side picking out the big pieces and stacking them for me to re-split and that works out good. When I’m loading more wood onto the log deck he takes those pieces and re-split them

[@MrPummi88]

Schon interessant, wie schnell der in die Knie geht. Und das, obwohl das Holz eigentlich perfekt für nen Automaten geeignet ist.

[@mithall4198]

Nice vid. Off topic, but did you build the grapple / boom set up on your log trailer?

[@williswoodproducts]

The trailer was built by Silva Hill. And they mount the grapple on the trailer which is made by Nokka

[@mithall4198]

@@williswoodproducts Thx. I wondered if you built it since you have good fab skills. I'm just getting started on my firewood journey after getting inspired by Joe from OWB. Unfortunately, all of my equipment will be home built because I'm tight.

[@williswoodproducts]

Everybody has to start somewhere. If I were to do it all again I would most definitely buy the log trailer first. That is literally my right hand. I could not imagine doing firewood without one of those

[@warrenstanford7240]

When the saw blade is dull like it is do you have a couple spares to change out to keep on processing?

[@williswoodproducts]

I bought 5 additional chains with it and when they get dull I sharpen them. Then when they’re all dull or 1 to 2 left I go through and sharpen the dull ones on a bench top grinder

[@jimmussetter6584]

The saw seems like a slow down in the process. Was the chain dull?

[@williswoodproducts]

The chain was dull yes. I get about 5 cord out of a sharpen

[@bradfordjeff]

It split more wood in 30 minutes than I do for the whole year.

[@thecraportheoreos7834]

Legit question, why was this struggling so bad ? I was considering one of these but seeing this makes me rethink a possible purchase. I have a Super Split I been running for a few years now, and this season I sold every cord I had and still get people calling me wanting more that I just do not have any seasoned to sell. Looking for a processor but need to spend my money wisely. Any recommendations you can give me ? And I am not knocking anyone who owns one of these, I just want the best for my money. Great video 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@seanpuffer8436]

Yeah it seemed to have a lot of hiccups. Ive seen ohio wood burner use his and his doesn't have anywhere near the struggles this one is having

[@thecraportheoreos7834]

@@seanpuffer8436 Yeah I have watched Ohio Wood Burner as well and his seems to run flawless !!!

[@mithall4198]

It makes you wonder why they went with such a low splitting force. You can get a 25 ton splitter at TSC for under a grand, so you'd think it would only be a few hundred for them to bump it up.

[@williswoodproducts]

It was struggling because it only has 7 Tons of splitting force. This is an a $20,000 processor. It is not going to have 25 tons of splitting force. At the end of the day the limitations is how much value can they stuff into a machine. This machine with a 4 way knife will split anything but you will have to do a little bit of re splitting. I am lucky enough to have a wood screw on my excavator so I can split everything down into manageable pieces. Yeah you can buy a 15-20 ton splitter for around 12 grand but, you have to buck up the wood, put it on a splitter, and then either have a conveyor at the end to stack it or throw it into a pile. This processor has a ton of features for the price point.

[@williswoodproducts]

And as you can see in the video. As the processor is splitting. It’s doing other hydraulic functions. Like running the conveyor. Or dropping another log onto the infeed table, or sometimes running the saw

[@nathanchambers1006]

Thats the machine ill be buying. My demands one the machine will be about the same as yours. Ill keep my splitter for the big nasty stuff.

[@williswoodproducts]

Exactly what we did, mine has around ~650 ish hours on it and it still splitting like the day I bought it

[@jefferywright9880]

What does this japa 365 cost ? Please tell me like to buy 1

[@williswoodproducts]

When I bought it a year ago it’s was $27,000 with the log rack. But steel prices have changed

[@framfull]

How sharp is the chain??

[@williswoodproducts]

It was dull in the video

[@lordhoho1]

Think your chain saw need sharpening

[@southsidemikevlogs]

I have a question I am thinking about buying a wood boiler to heat my house next yeah should just cut my wood or use a small machine to make my wood smaller just trying to get some ideas

[@williswoodproducts]

Can you explain a little more?

[@ivgotballsofsteel4048]

Depends on what your budget is, using a processor is costly by does cut down on a lot of time and effort with the right sort of wood. We sell wood in what are called dumpy bags, they would hold around 1 ton of building sand. We have been cutting it out of a stack with chain saws and using a 27 ton single blade wood splitter. I have, or should i say use to tell my dad it was not too efficient for what we do and could achieve in our area. The reason for that is because we would cut it out the stack, store it to dry it out a bit more and then split it and bag it. Having to handle it at least 3 times is why i said it wasn't efficient. We would buy in the cheaper loads of wood that were knotted and too big to put through a processor most of that was ash, oak, horse chestnut ect, common wood for the south west UK. The splitter we have is no joke, it will go through anything we have thrown at it, and will cut across the gain of solid oak, (that i know full well that this machine would never be able to do) but it is very slow. It all depends on how much your chopping and how much time you have, the sort of wood you can get or have and if you get something like this and can process all the wood you need in 3/4 weeks, is it really worth it being sat up for the rest of the year. It would give you options, like being able to spend weekends splitting wood for family, friends or random people, to help get back some of the cost. For the money of any of these types of machine id say, if you get one the right size for your needs they will pay for themselves. And sure saves some elbow grease too. The only thing against me saying that is the quality of the wood you can get.

[@jimhofoss9982]

20 ton logsplitter splits everything, and you can get fast manually turning the log a few times. This machine is too underpowered and limited, esp for the price, imo

[@williswoodproducts]

Everything has its limitations. I knew going into it what it was going to split and it has been more than what I thought I was buying. You can get larger machines but they’re just too expensive imo. 20 ton log splitter will split everything but you’re bucking up every single piece on the ground and having to pick it up off the ground onto your splitter. That does not make sense for a commercial set up

[@jimhofoss9982]

@@williswoodproducts a conveyor is an easy add-on to build, that can be plumbed into an existing log splitter. The conveyor uses very little power, and will not “bog down” the engine….food for thought

[@sureflamefirewood4174]

It would be a great machine if all you did was jack pine no bigger then 14"... but the reality is when buying logs you kinda need to take what you can or nothing... just hard to wrap my head around spending 24000 🇺🇸 on a machine that simply can't do the job

[@williswoodproducts]

Yes you are right. But when buying logs you mostly get around 8-12” pieces of straight grain lumber. Once in awhile you will get a weird knotty big piece. But because you now have a processor you also have an old log splitter that you can use to process the few odd ball pieces. I pair this up with the wood screw and it is amazing for the wood that I deal with

[@robertkustos2931]

COST. Look how the Russians do it. Make your own machine.

[@nathanchambers1006]

Making your own machine to this caliber would cost WAY more then buying one.