Putin critic Mikhail Khodorkovsky: Putin realizes 'there can be no military solution' | DW Interview

[@Tokashiza]

This interview is so well done. He was not once interrupted and he was given time to tell his full opinion. I wish more interviewers were this professional.

[@Cyndefinite]

I wish Arnab was more like this.

[@normaforsyth7950]

It helps that they interviewee didn't ramble or drone on and on, too.

[@als1023]

Same thoughts, thanks for posting !

[@joedon1706]

He learned from Don Lemon of CNN.

[@kiwibob223]

The German people think stuff like this is important.

[@jackwestin2090]

We need to hear this man more, clearly someone who knows what he talks about.

[@chrism415]

Apparently, you enjoy listening to sociopaths, Jack! He was in jail for a reason. Suggest you explore that further before you lurch into hero-worship.

[@mrm8818]

he talks like he is a fly on the wall of putins conversations with some sort of psychic power to read his mind, anticipating his every move. He has been in prison for 10 years, when was the last time that guy actually spoke to him in person. TL:DR its some rich guys opinion.

[@rootsrockreggae4192]

@@chrism415 is navalny a sociopath also ?

[@Narrenspiel6]

@@chrism415 So if you dont like an opinion, that person is a sociopath. Thats kinda like a dictator would argue. Do you perhaps like Putin?

[@blessingcheek7287]

He doesn’t know anything..he is just talking out of pain lol ..it’s natural,if someone hurts you do you say something good about the person..this is logic

[@PavelQuiteGood]

Very insightful interview. Always a pleasure hearing Mikhail's opinion on Russian politics.

[@Ex-expat]

Yep. Hopefully he is right

[@ebb_]

@@Ex-expat Sadly he isn't.

[@alexsalemo9137]

He’s an criminal

[@zenokarlsbach4292]

A different perspective in a friendly language.

[@dirtcoffeethethird9490]

@@ebb_ yes, as we should all know. You're right.

[@AngelGirl2482]

This man has lots of courage, to tell it like it's. I hope that the USA and the European union take his advice seriously.

[@edwardgatey8301]

NATO, too. No fly, RSFSR.

[@JedDragonil]

Do you know him ? do what he did and how he got that rich ??

[@j.d.4697]

He knows what happens to powerful people who speak out against Putin.

[@chamade166]

Unfortunately I can see the EU being naive and trying appeasement as usual. Not least, because the EU doesn’t have the tactical/military capability to coordinate anything.

[@maozedung7270]

He is a profesional liar

[@pw4780]

Well said. A bully only understands a punch in the face.

[@jackspring7709]

Khodorkovsky is a corrupt oligarch who murdered journalists when he and his other gang of oligarchs controlled and plundered Russia in the 1990s. Of all the people to interview about Russia they pick one of the most corrupt criminals that ever ran the country.

[@Max_Jacoby]

We bad thing is russian soldiers are getting punched in the face not him.

[@Anonymous-ld7je]

@@Max_Jacoby Putin doesn't feel it physically, but I promise he feels the humiliation of the bloody nose his "grand" army has received greatly

[@TheOpiyoOgumaExperience-41]

why don't America send you to do the punching..or why not send your nato fully equipped solders to Rusk now that your proagnada claim they are not powerfull?

[@pw4780]

@@Max_Jacoby There are Russian soldiers with good morals, but the ones raping, murdering civilians, and bombing hospitals deserve the death they get.

[@MrGoMario]

We must take his advice seriously! I am a 55 year old German and looking back at my own family and past, I fully agree with what he said about my country!

[@dawnburns880]

Thank you

[@mihailhidler5400]

Yes i pray to this guy to bless us with his mogul knowledge

[@johnong2655]

@@mihailhidler5400 ya. Talk talk talk talk talk. Continue on while you're at it

[@UniteWorldPeace]

thank you. We live in the information age, hopefully that could speed up the process.

[@KeefeL]

@@johnong2655 disgrace to HK

[@jimboAndersenReviews]

Proper interview; we get to hear his opinion without interruption. I'd highly advise, that DW should invite Mikail Khodorkovsky again. He certainly has some knowledge, that I for one, can use.

[@mihailhidler5400]

Oy vey Jacob

[@fuhrergoyim6579]

Oyyy veyyy🐑🐀🐀🐀🤦

[@agnescraig2912]

Trouble with most people interviewed are there on a mission of self promotion and never address the questions put to them. Politicians in the UK hone their skills at evasion at Universities like Oxford and Cambridge.

[@mvasiliev]

You know how many people Khodorkovsky killed in 90s? We know. You know how many companies he hijacked (racket)? Khodorkovsky stole in 90s? We know. You know that Putin granted him freedom before end of sentence? Now know! he is enemy

[@siegmunddrazek9164]

Ja

[@KermitOfWar]

Got to agree with everyone in the comments. This was a very well done interview.

[@nabiltanha3411]

What part do you agree with ?

[@danlindy9670]

“Putin is a thug, not a statesman.” Why is this so hard for Western leaders to grasp? Great interview!

[@donmadara3492]

Putin is the thorn in the western eye cause they can't control Russia like they do Eu

[@bgymr9722]

What is the difference?

[@bobjones2041]

So who was it that sting was moaning about "Russians love their children too" Who was the Swiss singer Sulke moaning about "the man from Russia is a mensch just like me and you' West German Commies all had Che Guevara drawn on their NATO parkas and adored their Red Army Faction which operated out of East Germany German woke band Geier Sturzflug accused Americans of wanting to flambee the Old Country. The list is endless. As far back as 1966 woke Hollywood mocked anti-Russian hysteria in the film The Russians are Coming" let's all sing "Back in the USSR the Ukraine girls really knock me out they leave the West behind"

[@CarlosHernandez-jb8kn]

But he got the gas and petroleum! Soo pay.

[@UncleKennysPlace]

Because so many Western leaders are thugs, not statemen. _‘There is no distinctly native American criminal class save Congress.’_ - Mark Twain

[@u.synlig]

Finally, a clear-eyed and practical assessment.

[@mihailhidler5400]

Yes very wise and absokutely fair oligarch

[@zenica12]

@@mihailhidler5400 there is no such thing as a fair oligarch, dummy

[@Тамилламилашка-я2н]

@@mihailhidler5400 Ага ,очень справедливый ,бандит который грабил свою же страну и сбежал. В России его бы на кол посадили, за многие его высказывания

[@ainstolkiner2063]

What an inteligent man. A pleasure to listen to

[@hostedbysimples]

Incredibly well done interview. I learned more about Russia in this video than 2 weeks of researching the topic. Congratulations to the interviewer and to the production in general, hearing this man was a great experience.

[@roncicotte]

DW documentaries and interviews are the best source of information on the subject. Their production is first class.

[@Makkez]

@@roncicotte but they still biased. Not even one interview, that share russian view over this situation

[@ctherats6023]

You learned nothing. You only have one side. Wake up.

[@roncicotte]

@@Makkez, we hear Russia"s side all the time when we watch the U.N. Security Council meetings. The lies are more than obvious. They're insulting. While we can never know the whole truth in the fog of war, it is our obligation to look at as much information as we can gather and think critically about it. Russia in general and Putin in particular has demonstrated his willingness to run roughshod over anyone he perceives as weaker than himself. No wonder Trump showed so much affection for him. They are a pair.

[@nabiltanha3411]

So what did you exactly learn about the Russia for the last 2 weeks ?

[@maried7776]

He's 100% correct~Narcissists need force, that's all they will recognize~they are opportunists and predators & will take advantage of weakness

[@martinhanuska546]

Russia go👍🇸🇰🇷🇺

[@901fBeM]

Trump too.

[@WHEREVER-I-ROAM]

@@901fBeM No SOYBOY TRUMP 2024 I MISS THE MEAN TWEETS

[@aris8332]

Narcist psychopath!

[@The_Dan_of_Kent]

He didn’t say narcissist he said thug. You no listen

[@evamasters5028]

I wish western leaders listened to this man. His answers were very insightful and obviously based on experience inside the system.

[@李先生-u1k]

Once a nuclear war breaks out, the United States will no longer exist

[@airplanes42]

he says in the interview that he has told multiple western leaders his views

[@tomdavis3038]

Western “leaders” are not leaders they are elected representatives. Nothing more.

[@SkinE-Vadee-Veechee]

Maybe they are listening. Maybe they were scrolling through KZbin and found this video.

[@MR-intel]

@@SkinE-Vadee-Veechee From a friend who knows Khodorkovsky I hear he's on calls all day long with people who seek his insights and analyses. They don't need youtube. 🤣 Geez.

[@vyleart4488]

That was quite an incredible interview. Great insights.

[@RR-et6zp]

read more

[@selcukcilek555]

And Edward Snowden lives in Moscow. So what's your point DW? Julian Assange is jailed in the UK. Why not an interview with Julian?

[@Danielseven-ir2mq]

The west wants to rehabilitate a thug. Thru commercial relations we ensure stability, moderation. German idea. A costly mistake for the west.

[@Dopaaamine27]

He was the one of the first Oligarchs in Russia who scammed his way to the top. Putin put him back in the place. DW find a better person to interview.

[@ZivineYT]

@@RR-et6zp Read what? 🥱

[@gavinslater2047]

A bloke who didn’t get rich from his entrepreneurial skills ,got rich from thieving Russian state owned assets...

[@casparnigell5510]

Well said - I've always thought Putin was a thug and mafia style boss. Those exact same words. Great to hear someone who was once close to Putin say the same thing. The West keeps treating Putin as a statesman; BIG MISTAKE. They need to show him STRENGTH. God bless Ukraine - I hope the West helps Ukraine to the last day. We must all defeat Putin.

[@Africanpride2019]

You sound li John Mcain. LOL

[@JL-ix5io]

Lmao

[@JamesC785]

They tried to flatter him into playing ball, didn't work.

[@katimboallan4605]

Defeating Putin, how possible. Putin defeated the west in Syria. The west was defeated in Afghanistan, the Taliban are now in charge. How will you defeat a mighty power??

[@titanman33]

Send Will Smith over there, he knows how to handle disrespect! 👋🏾

[@anontheshade]

What an awesome interview. Wow. Not common these days. Good to see. Stay safe, from the USA

[@carolinekennedy2023]

Stay safe brilliant interview from 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪

[@Shini1984]

While Putin is in power and has access to nukes, nobody is safe. Not even in space.

[@ADA-pl7bo]

This Dictator s personal ambition, is to attack HIS NEIGHBORS and HIS countires extended family, to TORTURE and KILL and leave them discarded like pieces of rubbish on the pavements of Mariupol. WHEN will the world Countries Governments whose great MINDS and Entities were put forward by their own citizens.. Stand UP AGAINST THIS CRIME AGAINST HUMANS BASIC RIGHTS.

[@erickrobertson7089]

Listening to this interview it is plain that what the US President said in a speech in Poland, the same statement that his staff tried to walk back from, is exactly what everyone is thinking.

[@chrism415]

I'm not sure that everyone is thinking.

[@jamescorneliustaylor6997]

@@chrism415 when civilians are being shelled, women and children blown up and shot, how is it possible NOT to think what Biden said? I'm sure that many Russians are disgusted at Putin, including those around him, and they would want to replace such an evil person with a better quality Russian person who sees ways make Russia a better country without butchery of good people for egotistical gain.

[@vladimirmodr8253]

Putin=Bestie

[@patverum9051]

@@chrism415 Everyone who CAN think knows Putler is a dangerous criminal who should be stopped/removed ASAP.

[@LisaNH934]

💯 everyone but Putin

[@Simcoast]

Very eye opening and insightful interview. Would like to hear a lot more from Khodorkovsky!

[@Angelthedog]

The smartest stuff on the Ukraine war I've seen. Thank you so much.

[@nancychace8619]

Interesting perspective. Found myself thinking "he's right" several times. Hope we all can find our way out of this mess as prudently as possible in a way that's best for everybody.

[@blardymunggas6884]

German news and experts are a joke🤣🤣 so far from the truth and reality

[@clarogonzales7759]

,P

[@eduardadhi110]

Me too.. putin a thug who surrounded himself by thug such as ramzan khadyrov

[@Jesse-ii3iz]

i was on the same stance of seeing he is almost right but maybe i have to much faith in the human willpower to fight for the balance of life. there will always be death and negativity but what you chose to focus on is what you can change.

[@ALIEN-su4us]

Russia has never had the strongest or the best army. The occupation of states by Russia was not determined by armed force, but by the ability of agents and spies to disassemble, destabilize and corrupt the political elite of countries. This is happening in Europe right now. Putin invested a lot of money to gain influence in the media and at various levels of power in opinion-forming and non-governmental organizations, such as environmental ones. In Poland, we also have the fifth column. How to recognize it? It's easy . It is enough to check who has been pursuing the Kremlin's goals in recent years. No matter what the politicians say but what they do.

[@Komonsense]

Finally, someone who knows what he is talking about.

[@michaelbuchholz2164]

I don't think so. Two years later putin is still not believing he will lose that war finally. 😊

[@lyndaoneill7813]

Very well done interview and informative without interruptions.

[@enochcaesar816]

Very important interview, it has given us much insight in this situation.👍🏾

[@jasonbourneistreadstone]

This was an informative, well-done interview where the interviewer let the person speak and did not talk over them because they used the proper format, unlike news-segment interviews where they constantly interrupt and are on a time-clock.

[@sizzlestick1]

I'd be interested to know his views on Donald Trump, and his friendship to Putin.

[@longhaulblue1145]

Thank you for this interview. Mr. Khodorkovsky's insights are very helpful. His comments about a federal Russia suggests he's also hopeful for his country. That one day, it might fulfill the nascent hopes we all had when the cold war ended, that Russians would also be Europeans.

[@eduyouthINIT]

To be Europeans and be a puppet of the United States right?

[@---fq2kd]

how many non-thugs from the west destroyed the people in Yugoslavia Vietnam Syria Iraq?

[@tomekjaglinski2123]

Yes-They Can!!!😉

[@Baba-fy1jc]

This or so People say the Understand Putin ,bud who can Understand Putin so Right. It is better to wait and to see, what Putin will do ,as to say he is, so or so a Person.

[@98091238]

the only hopes the West had with Russia after the Cold War was that it would throw open its doors and let itself be pillaged of all its natural resources for the benefit of the US and the West... all the while, NATO expanded, the NATO missiles crept ever closer to Russia's borders, the West pursued regime change after regime change in Europe, the Middle East, Asia etc. to the point that a US president speaking in Warsaw has called for the ousting of a Russian President... yeah, this is going to end well

[@BeGunNer]

I wish he was interviewed more. He really understands what's going on.

[@voltydequa845]

"I wish he was interviewed more. He really understands what's going on." ---- He knew much more during his accumulation of state assets (yes - in every country they are state assets, regardless of nominal ownership). But he won't explain that to you. Guess why.

[@MysticRL]

@@voltydequa845 and yet Yukos flourished under Mikhail, back when oil prices were as low as they could get. Now look at Rosneft barely making ends meet, despite effectively being owned by the state, this is when prices are through the roof :)

[@voltydequa845]

@@MysticRL "and yet Yukos flourished under Mikhail, back when oil prices were as low as they could get." -- Please define "flourished". In which ways, and in what means. US market was also flourishing till 2008 or, back, till 1929. It is too easy to flourish when you do not math. ---- "Now look at Rosneft barely making ends meet, despite effectively being owned by the state, this is when prices are through the roof :)" -- We have to see what it had, and what has been transferred in terms of availability and market. But enough - that this comment of mine is an exception (from while to while) - that I smell the disturbers that take on you by means of exhaustion with meaningless arguments.

[@hansludwig4732]

He made the best statements on ZDF Markus Lanz, but German. Impressive

[@niceguy235uk1]

So, he's been living in the UK for nine years, and not able to speak any English at all??

[@Whistlewalk]

A very important conversation that needs to be heard by a much wider audience. Thank you Mr. Khodorkovsky.

[@trialsdungeons8737]

all bias, not worth anything

[@jansix4287]

Only criminals live in London.

[@xzox]

@@trialsdungeons8737 Bit like your comment.

[@nabiltanha3411]

all was waste of time.

[@davidbanner6230]

: A prediction about events to come: On October 2nd 22, the Russians in Ukraine will fire on orders from Putin, a “tactical nuclear device” in an uninhabited part of Ukraine. N.A.T.O will convene a conference to threaten mobilisation; Putin will be arrested. On October 7th 22, Putin will be found dead, in St Petersburg.

[@Kaslor1000]

Great interview, if only the EU leaders had this level of understanding.

[@chrism415]

You think they are not controlled? It doesn't matter if they understand. They only follow directives from their bosses.

[@mattpotter8725]

Which EU leaders? Most are against Putin, but there's a difference in being a very wealthy Russian businessman, who has actually worked with Putin, and a democratically elected leader of a country who has to play the geopolitical game, whilst some has ties to Russian oil and gas supplies. I respect this but for speaking out, but apart from his own safety (and that of his family), maybe his wealth as well, he doesn't have any bigger responsibility to anyone, no public or countrywide threat from Russia will come from his words, but this would happen if a leader says the wrong thing, anyway it's actions not words that are needed, that's what I judge Western leaders on.

[@ThePianist51]

@@chrism415 Get off your Q Anon horse. In no company and in no state decisions are met by one single person without consolidation… Do you live on Mars?

[@rdsii64]

They do have that level of understanding. They just don't want to act in any way more than they have.

[@uckthis8079]

Russia is garbage

[@lionelpayette4628]

How do you think you can negotiate with a liar, a poisoner and someone who has been made a fool of in front of the whole world by the strength and resilience of the Ukrainian military. Strength is all this evil force understands. Refuse to negotiate any further until Russia removes this tyrant loser from the head of Russia. Russian people know that they must give peace to Ukraine or they will suffer militarily and economically. Victory to Ukraine. 💙💛☮

[@dougiesmith2916]

Based.

[@starblaiz1986]

True and real. 🇺🇦 Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦

[@oneCubanlove]

Maybe to send the Navy Seals to negotiate 😆

[@captainamerica6525]

Agree. Well put!

[@susanguardalupe7990]

Emperor constantine converted through prayer, Pray for Putin to stop this agression, Dani.

[@joe18750]

Why any sane person would think Putin would negotiate in good faith or keep a promise (or a treaty made), is seriously naive. The west should ensure Russia is not only defeated and kicked out of Ukraine, including Crimea and the Donbass, but also pays them reparations.

[@ivormonaco]

What a cogent interview from someone who REALLY knows what he's talking about. It makes a change from all these "experts" you hear most of the time.

[@jackwestin2090]

Agreed

[@muadhib001]

Are you telling me you don't care for the likes of Terrorist "expert" Sebastian Gorka? 🤣🤣

[@justincase4892]

Refreshing. Western Media take notes.

[@markharris5107]

My experience, from living in Russia in the 1990's, is that Russians are often more subtle and critical thinkers than we are in the USA. They don't as quickly jump to conclusions in the same way as we do. Notice in this interview how carefully, and without hyperbole, Mikhail Khodorkovsky answers the questions.

[@Dopaaamine27]

He was the one of the first Oligarchs in Russia who scammed his way to the top. Putin put him back in the place. DW find a better person to interview.

[@njm3211]

This man is lucky to have survived

[@1m2rich]

A wise man.

[@davidjma7226]

So far.......the FSB has a long reach

[@bengtfrantzen1999]

Det var meningen att han skulle överleva

[@jukatan100]

He's not dangerous enough to become a target. He

[@paivi1446]

@@bengtfrantzen1999 precis!

[@NomadJoe0323]

He was once the richest man in Russia until he got on Putin’s bad side. He’s always interesting to listen to.

[@Bogna1]

And despite of being ex oligarch seems like good person, in general. This is rare.

[@agathonchristianto9580]

Yup any oligarch that has become putin's enemy must be a saint according to the w3st3rn narrative XD

[@voltydequa845]

Until he tried to sell Russian assets. No sovereign country in the world would have allowed that.

[@hermantcherdakli2053]

@@agathonchristianto9580 He isn't a saint by any means, but he knows the internals of the russian government and is dead set on taking his revenge on putin for 10 years he spend in prison. An enemy of my enemy...

[@H4nek]

​@@agathonchristianto9580 [interesting to listen to] != [saint] You're hitting a strawman. You should stop looking at some potential edge cases through a magnifying glass and acting like it's a mainstream position. Just a friendly advice.

[@paulwestern3687]

Very interesting.

[@1TexasDallas]

Sounds like an extremely intelligent man. I enjoy his insight.

[@jackspring7709]

Khodorkovsky is a corrupt oligarch who murdered journalists when he and his other gang of oligarchs controlled and plundered Russia in the 1990s.

[@davidrussell8689]

Just what I was thinking too .

[@amanda72ist]

Very interesting argument: if the West keeps on depending on Russian money, western countries will have to spend more on their security than the total money the oligarchs would bring in.

[@shawoomco]

Russian energy, not money

[@memes2chill271]

@amanda…really good point 👍

[@bowtye8107]

Nope Russia going extinct yep

[@Carewolf]

@@shawoomco Well, London depends on the money, like those of Mikhael Khodorkovsky and other past or present oligarchs.

[@shawoomco]

@@magnem1043 can you name one?

[@blackfoot7925]

Good insight, I vote for this guy to be the next leader of Russia.

[@leehyunsong7001]

Who count your vote?

[@pizzabagerenmujaffa8123]

Before he was a snitch , he was putins best freind , he have stolen all his assets from the russian peaple , and you want him as your leader ...a billionare who have been living in europe for 10-15 year and cant speak english .... good luck

[@donmadara3492]

We don't need western Muppets here like in Ukraine thank youb

[@HelsinkiFINketeli_berlin_com]

Only that there's never been elections in Russia. Never in the thousand years of Russia.

[@selcukcilek555]

So that Wall Streeet is invited to have a free meal? Laughable.

[@j.tin23]

Excellent interview!!!!

[@mushtaqbhat1895]

The characterization of Putin tallies much with his rise to power. KGB training, obedience, execution of order first questions later and of course secrecy. But most important of all is Loyalty. His loyalty to the Mayor, who helped him, his loyalty to Yeltsin, who knighted him irrespective of their character _ corrupt, drunkard or not! What really counts in any Mafia gang is really the utter dedication to the Patriarch rather than to an idea or an ideology. This whole inner circle is based on that kind of ethos and that is why, despite a better judgement, the taboo associated with disloyalty makes one even accept personal death or the annihilation of the world as a better choice. It has something sacred associated with it. And if you grow up within such a community, you tend to project it as the reality about the world. You distrust and generally disrespect people, who profess humanism or other ideologies and the only thing you believe in and respect as the member of the mafia tribe is the Power and the Whip.

[@Awibrahor]

Eloquent and perspicacious comment. I agree with every word of it.

[@chrism415]

You should be writing scripts for 'B' Movies, Mushtaq. Give some air to that over-agitated imagination of yours. Everything you wrote here is fiction. Some solid fact would have been welcome.

[@mushtaqbhat1895]

@@chrism415 Thanks for your Facts that totally contradict mine. My apologies.

[@Awibrahor]

@@chrism415 Some people are so blind to facts they can’t even _imagine_ they are true.

[@mushtaqbhat1895]

@@Awibrahor or perhaps believe there exists only one Truth that only they know of.

[@jamesmedina2062]

Bless him. Mikhail has like a special halo. He has a very strong soul. We are lucky that he is still alive. I wish him and the world the best.

[@shaunyip2153]

Khordokovsky really knows the topic from years of close-up experience directly with Putin. When he speaks, you really should pay attention. Five minutes with him is worth more than 24 hours listening to non-Russian political pundits.

[@havenhemmings3574]

Or American Presidents.

[@owlman9777]

It's really sad that this man probably went through a lot of bad things in the prison. However, I appreciate that he didn't change as a person and acts responsibly!

[@scabrini28]

War crimes should be delt with emediatly

[@alpenjon]

Great interview! This mam seems to know exactly what he's talking about.

[@jackspring7709]

Khodorkovsky is a corrupt oligarch who murdered journalists when he and his other gang of oligarchs controlled and plundered Russia in the 1990s. Of all the people to interview about Russia they pick one of the most corrupt criminals that ever ran the country.

[@skjelm6363]

He was a thug too, so he should know

[@alpenjon]

@@jackspring7709 Ok well I don't know the details. Maybe what you say is true.

[@bitterballs356]

He is just a US UK pet

[@jackspring7709]

@@alpenjon Thanks for the acknowledgment. Yeah, he's not a good guy.

[@622PSS]

His last point on 'one generation lag in awakening' truly enlightens me - never have bern informed of it before!

[@gallo5263]

Indeed it is a depressing thought but sadly it sounds plausible.

[@talion7268]

Not really tho because let's not forget back them they didn't Internet and social media like today, the power of social media in showing people the truth or influencing their thoughts is huge in today's age

[@oliverbanes5121]

Yep , it make sense . It easy to lie to someone than it is to convince them they have been lied too. And this is why the west should be even more scare of country like China and the brainwashing that goes on there .

[@tsriftsal3581]

Check out The Fate of Empires by John Bagot Glubb.

[@gallo5263]

@@talion7268 I hadn't considered that, definitely a good point. I think a lot of it depends on the depth of the indoctrination and the ease of access to different views. It would make an interesting video.

[@deborahs2593]

What a fascinating man. His grasp of both Russian (and Putin's) thought and the West is clear-eyed. Russia and the world would be fortunate to have a man who thinks this way as the Russian president. Could it happen? Possible- but unlikely.

[@Arcomist]

He tried to get into politics in early 2000s, and lost, his company was taken away and he was put into prison for a decade.

[@98091238]

hardly clear eyed... Khodorkovsky has an axe to grind with Putin and hence, the talk of Russia using WMDs, Russia having no military solutions (eg. ask yourself what value you would give to Roman Abramovich analysing military campaigns?), advising the West to show strength and support Ukraine as much as possible which in effect is a former Russian oligarch calling on the West to do more in killing Russians etc.

[@jasonmeador7861]

@@Arcomist Putin was Jealous! He is better looking and has a higher IQ.

[@alexsartre2453]

@@98091238 The serious Western experts (Brian Taylor, Kate Langdon,John Mearsheimer etc) on Putin's Russia, they are never invited to an interview.. Their balanced views on Putin and the current conflict is not in demand.

[@sdgdasgupta8858]

@@alexsartre2453 Western democracies allow voices like Mearsheimer or Noam Chomsky. They are all well regarded intellectuals in their fields globally as well as in the west. The difference lies in the fact that anti-government voices, political or non- political, in Russia is suppresed by the kremlin. Most of the times that suppression is violent. That's a clear difference there. Mearsheimer's coined his views to be "offensive realism". If you apply this to the ex- Warsaw Pact countries, it actually justifies the will & need of these smaller, sovereign states to look for security by joining NATO currently, against the ever present existential threat of kremlin. However Mearsheimer vehemently criticises NATO's eastward expansion. That's a contradiction IMO.

[@mart099]

I enjoyed that. This guy knows his stuff. Like to see more of him moving forward.

[@rbrojas2040]

Him: "He's a thug, he only understands force." Me: Shocker.

[@---fq2kd]

how many non-thugs from the west destroyed the people in Yugoslavia Vietnam Syria Iraq?

[@davidjma7226]

And like all dictators he is, at heart, a coward. A scared little boy. Ferocious defence is the best way to deal with people like him. Like you deal with the school bully - hit them fast and harder. They then want to be your best friend.

[@bonnymcdermott1240]

Best interview ive seen yet on the subject. Intelligent questions (and interviewer is now one of my new favs) plus very intelligent respondant!!

[@PiperTMTotalWar]

I'm glad this man has the opportunity to share views in this way. He is very insightful to the situation in Russia.

[@Listenerandlearner870]

Thank you.

[@sirierieott5882]

Perfectly professional interview. My compliments to DW.

[@MR-intel]

Germany is not the US. There, most interviewers think it's always about them.

[@Jaceymarshall1996]

when all set and done this guy need to be Russian president he will lead the country the right way he has started at rock bottom went to the top went to jail back to rock bottom and look at him now still smiling what a man

[@chrism415]

If you were a sociopathic crook who had stolen billions and then you were feted as a 'Russian expert' on a mediocre TV network, you'd be smiling, too. My advice: read this guy's history before you start the hero-worship.

[@SianaGearz]

One does not just become an oligarch with a little bit of elbow grease. I would like to pitch peace and diplomacy proponent, socialist, Euro-Integration proponent, Dr. Yavlinsky instead.

[@98091238]

exactly

[@valleychatter2195]

Stop drinking the cool aid. He was already puppeteering Navalny to increase volatility in Russia. Fortunately it failed. Russian people are much smarter than the westerners.

[@neiltomkins4713]

I have several of this mans interviews. He comes across as being intelligent and not prone to making sweeping statements. I think you can trust everything he says.Not easy to find nowadays.

[@mikem9001]

@Jamie Walkerdine So what?

[@arty5876]

He have Russian-speaking youtube chanell - Михаил Ходорковский

[@verynicex]

@Jamie Walkerdine he’s not?!?! he lost most of his wealth after being sentenced in 2003. putin got rid of him because he tried to expose a lot of things he didn’t want him to

[@beverlyhill9947]

VERY BRILLIANTLY STATED AND OF COURSE WELL THOUGHT OUT! I LOVE YOUR WORDS, "NOT PRONE TO MAKING SWEEPING STATEMENTS." RIGHT ON POINT! WELL DONE!

[@nishanisho]

@Jamie Walkerdine No he's not, he was exiled. He's a former oligarch.

[@MrFritz-lq2fc]

Meanwhile Khodorkovsky realizes, he was dead wrong about everything and 'there will be a military solution'.

[@skymaster4121]

Yes, Ukraines 😂

[@jefsele]

Your channel is definitly one of the best in Europe, high level journalists and high level guests, we are always learning some new perspectives and opinions

[@MP-wb5yd]

Excellent and very insightful interview, you can feel the strengh of this person

[@GM-cq6ez]

This man knows whereof he speaks.

[@anantanavkar9932]

Upvote on seeing the proper use of word 'whereof' -- saw it after a looooong time! :-)

[@ennediend2865]

Very interesting , Khodorkovsky always speaks with calm and serenity , amazing after all he had to go through : no anger, no bitterness , no violence ...and very clear thinking. Russia definitely needs that guy !!

[@billy6pack887]

Yea but definitely not a military strategist a chess master does make.

[@victormizarelli4313]

Thi is true! He is a maniac! I think everyday he realizes that he is running out of options. He is desperate and surrounded by people that are afraid to tell him the truth! Stay strong Ukraine! You are almost there.

[@farringtonsamuel3413]

Its not him, its you who don't know what's going on because you only watch mainstream media.

[@vesnatadic9740]

Putin is maniac, he is desperate, pigs are flying and I have a Burj Khalifa to sell you.

[@JamesC785]

vlad is a thug & thinks that we are weak - Crimea reinforced his suspicions. He still has plenty of nasties up his sleeve & thinks that he can drag this war out for a couple more years, he wants to annihilate Ukraine, to punish it for it's resistance.

[@---fq2kd]

what is your goal? )

[@JamesC785]

@@---fq2kd sustainable harmony

[@Roman-hg6rg]

Really good interview. Mikhail sharing his insight and opinions are some of the most valuable.

[@Dirk80241]

Very informative interview. His views make a lot of sense, especially about resisting the thug Putin and the cost of security for the West.

[@pimpussadelko7483]

Thank you❤

[@Riddim4]

If Putin were serious, he’d pull back and negotiate . He’s not done that. He’s appearing to negotiate to make himself look reasonable. He continuously says one thing and does another.

[@Officialbillion]

He is reasonable man

[@NamTran-xc2ip]

Same as Zelensky tbh

[@arty5876]

Schizophrenia

[@Rishi123456789]

@@NamTran-xc2ip Based and honestpilled.

[@swamidude2214]

They are actually pulling back, it seems negotiations is the way Putin is going. Now the issue arrises that I believe Zelenski has to chose. Give Putin the bare minimum of Donetsk, Luhansk and the Krim for peace or continue the war. Putin will go on with a 10 year war if needed I believe. He is not going to concede on those bare minimum demands. Of course Ukraine should not have to, but its a pick between two evils. I really dont want to see Putin rewarded for this, but I cant believe he will back off from those demands. Waging war for years would cripple both Russia and Ukraine, countless lives will be lost. I really dont want to be in Zelenski’s shoes making an impossible decision.

[@RoadRashSpirit]

This man talks sense. I also like how he is starting to think about post Putin Russia. This is very important, we cannot repeat the same mistakes that occured after the fall of the SU. I completeley agree that mindset change will take a new generation, luckily it seems many young Russians are liberaly minded. There is hope but it will take time.

[@witch18Lho]

6:56 I am not a psychologist but the way things turning out and Putin behavior even before, He is right.. If you show fear and softness to Putin because you are afraid of him the more he likes it. retreating for now is not in his vocabulary

[@ExpressionsofAwakening]

Wow DW is the best news....its like getting you real understanding in a condensed form.

[@robertopena4x4]

Desde muy pero muy lejos, aca en Chile, espero que el regimen agresivo de Putin termine pronto y los ciudadanos de Rusia puedan vivir en paz, armonia y prosperidad

[@jrbland18]

STAY STRONG UKRAINIAN PEOPLE WE ARE STANDING BEHIND YOU. UKRAINIAN PEOPLE DO NOT LET YOUR GUARD DOWN TO PUTIN.

[@tedcooper5377]

Very interesting insight, from a very good interview.

[@valamaas]

DW news is so far my favourite source of unbiased reporting (everything is disputable) . Interviewing different people and asking their opinions rather than making up stuff (sometimes it seems). Most importantly, letting them speak uninterrupted. Cheers from 🇦🇺 for 🇺🇦

[@robrobert6232]

@everyday tenor hardly. Their russian appeasement and gas deals are now costing all of us in europe

[@Asoka-great]

@@robrobert6232 all have tried to appease the Monster, thinking he might relent, and they were all wrong. Putin got empowered, after his Manchurian candidate (Trump) got elected in US.

[@ivan-Croatian]

I thoroughly enjoyed this interview. Bravo!!!

[@wesleysmith5580]

This man gave back so much, the russian people had a hero in their corner and the benefit of humanity!

[@michaelgl8516]

Thank God he's still alive and wasn't poisoned or gunned down. Yet.

[@wesleysmith5580]

@@michaelgl8516 They Did Both !!! And yes he is still alive !!!

[@kenjackson5685]

1st class...thanks for sharing

[@Mastercane98]

The gentleman is well informed, great interview.

[@Dutch2go]

Great interview. Important information here.

[@Danielseven-ir2mq]

The German idea, that thru commercial relations we ensure stability, moderation. Did not go well.

[@starblaiz1986]

To be fair, it's not like you can blame Germany for being reluctant to invest heavily in their own millitary, given what their own version of Putin did to the world last century...

[@Danielseven-ir2mq]

@@starblaiz1986 agree. But germany did patronize, prop up a thug, enabled him to commit atrocities in Europe. The west did not handle this well.

[@JustMeELC]

100% correct! Someone please get that through Macrons head! History PROVES the more putin is allowed to get away with, the further he will go! It will only get worse until the world stops him :o( Lack of action sadly only delays the inevitable & makes it more difficult when it comes!

[@JustMeELC]

@@starblaiz1986 Not blaming but stating absolute fact!

[@kevinwarburton2938]

Whole of west had that outlook not just with Russia but China, Iran and other tinpot dictatorships. Put economics/trade over democracy and human rights.

[@jamesbradford1815]

Excellent interview. This is how it’s done.

[@nrobertson33]

Great interview. DW is so much more insightful than the BBC here in the UK. You really get to the heart of it.

[@terencewinters2154]

A wise man has spoken here. And he has felt the sorrow and the pain of the country he undoubtedly loves. He knows its history its totalitarian past its basic greatness and its weaknesses particularly from putin and others despotism.

[@MM-ro9jn]

good answer!

[@bitterballs356]

He loves Russia? Is that why he never mentions what a danger NATO is to Russia?

[@terencewinters2154]

@@bitterballs356 nato has never invaded a country . Like Russia has. He would be in favor of a detente rather than a domination as would nato . The former Warsaw pact nations joined nato because they'd experienced being overrun by Russia and Germany. Nato to them gives them freedom to self determine their politics and economics and military porcupine defenses with some coordination. Russia was invited to discuss and integrate a collective security agreement with nato . They rejected it along with mutual arms restrictions that came with it. Fear is the key 🔑 Russia will never be dominated nor will it be able to dominate smaller defenseless nations this is the difference between militaries oriented towards DEFENSE RATHER THAN OFFENSIVE CONQUEST. MORE GDP STAYS IN THE CONSUMER ZONE . THAN IN THE ARMS FOR AGGRESSION BUDGET. MAD STILL WORKS . BUT ITS MORE COSTLY TO EAST AND WEST. 🔫 GUNS OR BUTTER ? 🧈 KHODOROVSKY IS AT LEAST ABLE TO SEE RUSSIA WITH 12 TIME ZONES 1/7 TH OF THE WORLDS LAND MASS DOESNT NEED MORE LAND OR PEOPLES TO GOVERN BECAUSE THE SCALE IS UNMANAGEABLE AS IT IS. WEST WONT INVADE THEY KNOW OF THE WEHRMACHT AND THE GRAND ARMEE. DISASTERS. SO RUSSIA AND PUTIN SHOULD CHILL RAP THEIR FEARS IN A PRAYER AND SHIFT COURSE OR LET OTHERS RULE.

[@das250250]

The man is equipped to deliver a proper assessment of Voldemort , the interviewer is greatly skilled and was present,guided yet transparent to the communication to the audience .thank you

[@63Limar]

Please, don't do that harry potter cringe

[@rockforester7908]

Very good interview. THIS is the man I want to hear from. I wish it was longer. And perhaps his grasp of English could be bettter after all this time. No disrepect intended. Thank you so much.

[@Giorg189]

Every interview with Mr. Khodrokovski is gold.

[@live_free_or_perish]

He has a unique point of view. The West should listen to what he has to say.

[@ArakishiTokugawa]

it's actually fun how there's an italian filoputinist "professor" Alessandro Orsini who say "we shouldn't say he's bad like we're doing now" and so on. West fault is not treating Putin like a time bomb ( limit "strategic" imports from Russia like energy, for example )

[@JustMeELC]

@@ArakishiTokugawa Putin must see zero territorial gain from his crimes & it is long past time the west stands up to him & says exactly what he is! History PROVES the more putin is allowed to get away with, the further he will go! It will only get worse until the world stops him :o( Lack of action sadly only delays the inevitable & makes it more difficult when it comes!

[@clairecadoux471]

It is definitely NOT unique. You may have arrived late in this. There are others to be sure. It is certainly easier to read the situation if one has had a broad outlook on the world and a great education

[@ruthokelley5833]

I believe he makes good sense. Russia is a force that must be reckoned with for a very long time! Acceptance of that fact and moving forward with a plan that requires Russia to adhere to humane rules for their citizens and the same for other Countries! Otherwise, we leave them to their own devices, with sanctions!

[@littlebirdling238]

You are so right!

[@ruthokelley5833]

👍

[@mpwaterhouse]

The tragedy is that Russia had an opportunity to put things right after Yeltsin fell from popularity after failing to quell the uprising in Chechnya. Nemstov not Putin would have made a far better successor. The uprising was fixed via a bloodbath by Putin earning him the moniker - the butcher of Chechnya by essentially using the same tactics currently in play around Mariupol only this time Putin shouldn't get to put another thug puppet in charge.

[@98091238]

it is unbelievable that people in the West don't seem to grasp that such widespread sanctions on Russia will boomerang and effect everybody... some European countries are just hoping (eg. Germany, Belgium) that the consequences of the sanctions and any counter sanctions from Russia (see Russia's rubles for had from enemy nations) are less severe on them then on Russia... just check the standard of living metric in the UK --> it is the worst in almost 70 years and it is going to get worse moreover, Russia wants to decouple from the West... the world is realigning with Russia moving more into Eurasia with its partnership with China and trade deals with China, India, Pakistan, Iran etc... Asia had 7 times the population of Europe... as long as Russia can withstand the short term impact of the sanctions, it will prosper long term because it is a commodities superpower interviews like this with Khodorkovsky are just distractions --> Putin is evil, WMDs, prolong the war in Ukraine etc. instead of discussing the full ramifications of the war, sanctions, Russia's Asian ambitions, the economies of Western Europe, the energy shortfalls that are coming for Europe, the China-Russia alliance that will be far more potent than the Warsaw Pact etc.

[@markberryhill2715]

Russia is a force that should be reckoned with and if they'll get rid of this knothead at the Kremlin they should be given a chance to be a part of the world again.

[@Pfinas.Hobby.ClipBox]

*11:39** wow what a patiently man ..ma chapeau!!!!!*

[@nivanhsangsida8908]

This person best known of what he talked about, it’s hard for western and Europe to understand.

[@goddessroot4501]

Exactly

[@crewtheaftermath4105]

. wow I grew up in a tough hood. I understand what this guy means. JUst being nice to someone would get you punched inthe head or robbed for no reason!. And the pimps and drug dealers around me were cruel as F!. I get what Putin is. he is terrifying!

[@chrism415]

You may have grown up in a tough 'hood, but I don't think that qualifies you to claim that you 'get what Putin is'. I think you actually need to read and research more.

[@michaelhurley3171]

True, but I like pimps cuz I need a ho!

[@ElectronFieldPulse]

@@chrism415 - Na, Putin is a thug and acts like one.

[@dermdoc3637]

the solution is to just stop

[@Eddy-oe5oi]

and full retreat!

[@grussellism]

This is one of the best interviews I've seen.

[@e4t662]

He's gonna do something, or he's gonna do nothing. Got it. It's the something I worry about.

[@JustMeELC]

Zero point in worry! History PROVES the more putin is allowed to get away with, the further he will go! It will only get worse until the world stops him :o( Lack of action sadly only delays the inevitable & makes it more difficult when it comes! He must see zero territorial gain from his crimes for everyones sake!

[@als1023]

A critically brilliant interview and words from someone who really knows his stuff. He is probab;y too smart for most western politicians to take seriously.

[@VeronikaJelencsrecnozivljenje]

No talks. Putin's word is nothing. Ukraine should not settle with a liar.

[@alf3071]

yep, do not give putin anything

[@Digitaaliklosetti]

Unless Ukraine has plans to push toward and occupy Moscow, they're eventually going to have to settle with a liar. Either with Putin or the liar clever enough to take his place.

[@SianaGearz]

It's possible but you need an independent enforcement plan that doesn't rely on his word. Such as Blue Berets.

[@A.Man.From.Cyprus]

🇨🇾 First of all I would like to say a big thank you for the professionalism of the journalist! Its one of the few times I enjoy a conversation like this! Then I have to admit it was a very interesting interview. And finally a big thank you to DW for hosting this interview. Objectiveness in full! Thank you! 🙏

[@ndukaduka9414]

Never knew that he is out of jail, after all that putin did to him. I felt so bad for him and have also prayed for him but never knew he is in London. He lost his business and I hope is back to his life. MK, take care.

[@lawrencedanao7648]

I saw a documentary on amazon he still has 100s of millions so he's still fine.

[@yehor_ivanov]

m8, he's been out for some time, already :)

[@BillyGoatScruff1000]

watch citizen k

[@HegelsOwl]

Oh, don't worry: he has plenty of billionaire buddies in organized crime, like all politicians.

[@dynolandsculptor1967]

@@HegelsOwl He sounds more like a non-criminal statesman to me...

[@Bonez116KR]

To this day, Russia has not learned from the experiences of the past. Finland and Russia had a war in which Russia suffered massive losses. The same is true today with Ukraine

[@bobertjones2300]

Unfortunately, Russia learned the wrong lesson as Finland had to cede about 10% of its land to reach a peace with Russia (USSR.) I see Russia getting Dobass which sets up the next war. President Putrid must be removed as his goals are unjust.

[@bc-yc3yc]

Intelligent, wise and well informed .....clearly sees the past, present and future of Putin's evil......good insight....Putin must go!🔥

[@kolendamp3360]

Thank you for this interview, it helps me to understand more

[@maxflair3946]

One only wishes that this interview lasted longer!