Putin's war: Is he really threatening Eastern Europe? | To the point

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@av8ionUSMC
@av8ionUSMC 2 жыл бұрын
Never heard of DW or To the Point before this debacle but it’s been the most productive and informative conversation or discourse I’ve come across. Thank you. Stay strong Ukraine 🇺🇦!
@oakhauser
@oakhauser 2 жыл бұрын
Great channel, a very smart German way of explaining things, in some way beter than US media that can be too much passionate
@stewartabel
@stewartabel 2 жыл бұрын
@@oakhauser Agree :)
@tharrrrrrr
@tharrrrrrr 2 жыл бұрын
Slava Ukraini! 🇺🇦 💙 💛
@DixonDixon65
@DixonDixon65 2 жыл бұрын
Been watching for years. I'm an American who lived in Germany in the early 2000's. They report World news on a higher level and less sensationalism. Found this channel 3 years ago.💓
@brushstroke7190
@brushstroke7190 2 жыл бұрын
Same here. the war has been very profitable for DW, et al. (hard not to be cynical about that)
@_CatBug_
@_CatBug_ 2 жыл бұрын
As a Westerner (American), I'd wish they bring in more panelists from that part of the world on American news outlets to report instead of American "experts". This is a great educational piece!
@aviovintage
@aviovintage 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, not all the hyperbole please and retired generals that circlejerk around the amazing Ukraine army and tremendous losses of Russia. If Russia wants, despite tremendous losses, they could carpetbomb Ukraine. (my opinion is that Ukraine Army is great indeed, but I think there might be too much hopium in western media). The perspective of this panel was great and reflects what people actually feel about this war. My wife is Polish and she has a, perhaps irrational, fear of Russia which is inflated now to great heights where she is not sure Russia will stop at the Ukraine border.
@XTSonic
@XTSonic 2 жыл бұрын
Stop watching American TV then. DW is quality for this, though obviously a lot of German focus.
@pizzaboneztv2879
@pizzaboneztv2879 2 жыл бұрын
I live in the USA but I look at AlJazeera (United Arab Emerates) or something like DW to get a different perspective. Occasionally I look at RT (Russian State Owned news) just to see what they are saying, and of course my own U.S. news, I try to take in everything
@paareth
@paareth 2 жыл бұрын
We always get Russian or Western perspectives, missing out Eastern Europe and sometimes even Ukraine entirely its very tiring to see the main focus of the conflict overlooked. *So yes I was very very very happy to see this.
@jirislavicek9954
@jirislavicek9954 2 жыл бұрын
American? DW is extreme left pro Russian channel
@vladislavteper1842
@vladislavteper1842 2 жыл бұрын
When they came for Georgia, i was silent because I'm not from Georgia. When they came for Syria, i was silent because I was not Syrian. When they came for Ukraine, i was silent because I was not Ukrainian. And then they came for me, but there was no one left to speak for me.
@craftpaint1644
@craftpaint1644 2 жыл бұрын
And if you're Canadian crying freedom with no gun they come for you. 👩‍🔧🇺🇲🛠️🇷🇺🐻
@laurastortoni-hager1510
@laurastortoni-hager1510 2 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@wokeaf1337
@wokeaf1337 2 жыл бұрын
I take it u are from Moldova, i know this is not much but i apologize in advance. I really believe Nato should walk into Ukraine but before doing so making the Russians clear that they wont cross the ukrainian/russian border. I dont think Russia would use nuclear warheads for as long as Russia is not under siege.
@Smetkowski24
@Smetkowski24 2 жыл бұрын
Old but still relevant
@brianfox771
@brianfox771 2 жыл бұрын
@@wokeaf1337 If he is from Moldova, my recommendation is for him to petition his government to immediately request to reunite with Romania. It will immediately become part of NATO and the EU. Better to be part of Romania, than part of Putin's totally isolated Russia.
@maximilliancunningham6091
@maximilliancunningham6091 2 жыл бұрын
Enormously intelligent discourse. WATCHING From Canada
@dwanemarsh4378
@dwanemarsh4378 2 жыл бұрын
I usually get bored listening to so-called "experts", most of whom don't have a real clue! But, this panel is VERY smart, studied, and hihgly understanding of the REAL status of things! VERY informative!
@mariagibbons8437
@mariagibbons8437 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent panel! Knowledgeable and realistic, yet not depressing. The truth is hard to take but it is the only way to live.
@nephilimcrt
@nephilimcrt 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. This is very refreshing compared to the uninformed and speculative sensationalism that (in my case, Dutch) commercial television is showing.
@ATAHUALPA867
@ATAHUALPA867 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed.
@sjakiebakfietd7588
@sjakiebakfietd7588 2 жыл бұрын
yes i agree thanks
@sjakiebakfietd7588
@sjakiebakfietd7588 2 жыл бұрын
THE TRUTH IS HARD TO TAKE BUT REALISTIC ITS THE CLEAREST WHAT I HAVE HEARED IN THESE TIMES AGAIN THANK THANK YOU.MISS MARIA YOU SEE POETIN SEE BUT ZELENSKI DONT SEE IT NOT YET
@sjakiebakfietd7588
@sjakiebakfietd7588 2 жыл бұрын
HE DONT SEE IT ..ZELENSKI ..STOP ARE YOU BLIND OR WHAT NAIEVE ? COMONE DONT BE AN DONKEY IT IS NOT A SHAME NOT NOW REALY NOT
@ycc9369
@ycc9369 2 жыл бұрын
In short: Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
@MicroageHD
@MicroageHD 2 жыл бұрын
@UCytlq6Aq3cPt7E0cvLK-pIw Why? They know. All three had corrupt leaders with absolute power lmao.
@scratchy996
@scratchy996 2 жыл бұрын
Putin is just a symptom of Russia's deeper problems.
@kukulroukul4698
@kukulroukul4698 2 жыл бұрын
@@scratchy996 true :(
@kukulroukul4698
@kukulroukul4698 2 жыл бұрын
@@scratchy996 Putin BEATS us to dea** for the russian internal problems :(
@jcjko5504
@jcjko5504 2 жыл бұрын
@@scratchy996 Yap. exactly as Xi of China CCP
@als1023
@als1023 2 жыл бұрын
Carolina has a brilliant mind, in my view, excellent member of this panel, hope to see more of her analysis in the future. Great to hear from A Russian perspective too, hope she is kept safe from Putin's vengeful tactics and goons.
@EWAMILENAP
@EWAMILENAP 2 жыл бұрын
Karolina Wigura is Polish👼
@abigailvomelmo1167
@abigailvomelmo1167 2 жыл бұрын
@@EWAMILENAP And?
@als1023
@als1023 2 жыл бұрын
@@EWAMILENAP I knew she was Polish, sorry I misspelled her 1st name.
@EWAMILENAP
@EWAMILENAP 2 жыл бұрын
@@als1023 💕🐻Best wishes from Poland!🌿🌹🌹🌹🌿
@vincentliet7995
@vincentliet7995 2 жыл бұрын
@@als1023 And?
@longhaulblue
@longhaulblue 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a great discussion. It was very refreshing and informative to hear the views of Eastern Europeans with respect to this crisis in particular, and to the threat of Russia in general. It would be also interesting to hear from the Baltic states and also from Finland and Sweden.
@GregRampinelli
@GregRampinelli 2 жыл бұрын
Daria, you're a very brave woman! A new Russia will need people like you!
@tklube308
@tklube308 2 жыл бұрын
That was probably one of the best discussions I've heard about this war.
@colinjava8447
@colinjava8447 2 жыл бұрын
Listen to some of Garry Kasparov's talks on this, he predicted Russia would go mental in his book "Winter is coming", he's very knowledgeable on all this.
@TheGelatinousSnake
@TheGelatinousSnake 2 жыл бұрын
He will go as far as he is allowed. He clearly wants it all.
@maureenstevens6824
@maureenstevens6824 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!!!!!!
@MrILES-gu3xb
@MrILES-gu3xb 2 жыл бұрын
@Health is wealth very funny. He could sit back and carpet bomb them if he wanted to. Obviously he’s considering human life to an extent. Unlike US and Iraq, Libya wars etc etc. now GTFOH
@wokeaf1337
@wokeaf1337 2 жыл бұрын
...and sadly he will be allowed to take Moldova as well, Nato will throw weapons over the boarder and put on the classes because of the nuclear threat.
@wokeaf1337
@wokeaf1337 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrILES-gu3xb yeah to an extent, he showed that in Syria and so on...
@allenthomas914
@allenthomas914 2 жыл бұрын
@Mr. ILES please stop it he care less about human life he bombed a hospital, and a ton of innocent people..
@jamesphilip6737
@jamesphilip6737 2 жыл бұрын
In love with Daria! Her courageous stand against Putin is admirable. The guests are phenomenal. DW News shows how it is done.
@abmong
@abmong 2 жыл бұрын
She's a GOAT, best kind of criminal.
@neilfoster814
@neilfoster814 2 жыл бұрын
She is quite a cutie, I would love a date with her!
@coonassprepper5243
@coonassprepper5243 2 жыл бұрын
she is a criminal
@mmhthree
@mmhthree 2 жыл бұрын
She can come and live with me in Texas =)
@KytexEdits
@KytexEdits 2 жыл бұрын
@@coonassprepper5243 And that's a good thing.
@mylifemark2747
@mylifemark2747 2 жыл бұрын
i went to a park on my bicycle and sat on the grass, life was happening all around me. and i thought, this is good, these simple things in life, that people can enjoy when there's peace. and i thought about the people of Ukraine, and how a man named Putin had taken these simple joys of life away from them, and replaced it with death and destruction and emptiness. and i knew why i hated that so called important figure, that so called man, all the so called leaders like Putin, who take away the simple joys of life from the rest of us.
@Dec2012omg
@Dec2012omg 2 жыл бұрын
I like the questioner. Delivers the questions with a very authentic and natural manner. Better than most in the BBC.
@TonyTalksBack
@TonyTalksBack 2 жыл бұрын
Hats off to the journalist who said she was facing numerous criminal charges in Russia for doing the right thing.
@DorksterJr
@DorksterJr 2 жыл бұрын
Thank God evil Putin's most evil power does not have the same range as NATO's. Otherwise, she'd be Assange 2.
@howiescott5865
@howiescott5865 2 жыл бұрын
That includes every protester jailed in Russia.
@donnaprice7931
@donnaprice7931 2 жыл бұрын
Did anyone REALLY think he was going to stop with Ukraine ??!!!! HE IS A MADMAN.
@natanulsiref
@natanulsiref 2 жыл бұрын
Madman is a lazy explanation that doesn't really help solving the issue.
@ishaks8152
@ishaks8152 2 жыл бұрын
He is going to take back all the ex soviet countries not yet nato member as the 1st phase of vlad's conquest.
@Krystof.Veritae
@Krystof.Veritae 2 жыл бұрын
Great panel ....more of the Polish and Russian , Ukrainian journalists please these need to be heard and objective real views ..... Daria has to be very courageous to even be here plus keeping some sense of humor in such grave situation .....great guys panel .
@hianjana
@hianjana 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Absolutely informative conversation! Hoping to see more of these conversations especially from Eastern European representatives 👍🏼
@debbiclairejackson2407
@debbiclairejackson2407 2 жыл бұрын
The chinese ???! Give a man a puppy???,
@robertohenriquez4993
@robertohenriquez4993 2 жыл бұрын
Milan made me very proud of Slovakia, The way you even describe the sentiment internally was on point! Great Job... Also super proud of all Slovak who are helping
@jfjoubertable
@jfjoubertable 2 жыл бұрын
he's not threatening Eastern Europe only, he's threatening all democracies - how difficult is it to understand this? Democracies have forgotten that freedom is not free....
@SandraGarcia-lj3bd
@SandraGarcia-lj3bd 2 жыл бұрын
Your right
@BruceLee1.0
@BruceLee1.0 2 жыл бұрын
what deomcracy are you talking about. Your democratic countries aka the west did so many war crimes like Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan and palestine. also we can talk about the whole africa
@oneofyouproductions6022
@oneofyouproductions6022 2 жыл бұрын
@@BruceLee1.0 lol mate I am from Africa and I can tell you nobody has done more damage to Africa than the Africans. Then you have other countries like China and the rest of the world sucking it dry like a bunch of vampires. We need better leaders in the world not racism.
@nikolaodonnell6813
@nikolaodonnell6813 2 жыл бұрын
I’m Irish, we fought for our freedom, we suffered like the Ukrainian people, we both had famine, we are strong today, we are letting the Ukrainian people come to our country without visas, they are welcome, I love my country, stay safe Ukraine, you will win.
@martynanstis1620
@martynanstis1620 2 жыл бұрын
@@BruceLee1.0 forget the whataboutism in your argument, you won’t win any prizes with it.
@loboplateadostacker
@loboplateadostacker 2 жыл бұрын
History teaches rulers like Putin never back down, he will go as far as he is allowed to go. Any names come up to mind? Europe better stop being naive once and for all, and start prepping for the worse. And let's hope he is stopped within Ukraine.
@laurastortoni-hager1510
@laurastortoni-hager1510 2 жыл бұрын
Putin=Hitler
@MrILES-gu3xb
@MrILES-gu3xb 2 жыл бұрын
So long as US and NATO layoff his border of which Ukraine is away to close then he’ll relax. I mean really would you want by our Arch enemy move on house closer to yours?
@G_Demolished
@G_Demolished 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrILES-gu3xb Putin: I’m worried NATO will attack me in peacetime NATO: Won’t attack him while he’s invading Europe Seems to undercut that narrative.
@murn20091
@murn20091 2 жыл бұрын
He will go as far as NATO lets him go.
@sretnazvijezda400
@sretnazvijezda400 2 жыл бұрын
Good for Neto
@yelenaa4746
@yelenaa4746 2 жыл бұрын
Dear Karolina Wigura, as a Latvian your words resonate with me deeply.
@MrCr00wn
@MrCr00wn 2 жыл бұрын
we share same view in this part of EU
@debbiemoore5945
@debbiemoore5945 2 жыл бұрын
I live in California. DW is my # 1 news source on international news. Great discussion. Thank you🙏🏻🇺🇦🇺🇸
@AORD72
@AORD72 2 жыл бұрын
People also said another dictator in the 1930's wouldn't invade other countries.
@samhughes1747
@samhughes1747 2 жыл бұрын
I deeply appreciate this kind of discussion. Y'all are conversationalists to be emulated, and our USA news correspondents have ever so much to learn from discussions like this. Thank you.
@tklube308
@tklube308 2 жыл бұрын
Our new correspondents can't hold a candle to these. Ours are nothing but talking heads controlled by their puppet masters.
@jsnel9185
@jsnel9185 2 жыл бұрын
American here; I only watch foreign news now. It's actually thoughtful and, what a strange thought, informative. Not partisan hacks yelling for ad dollars.
@georgehouston6327
@georgehouston6327 2 жыл бұрын
Tod: your people as well cannot hold a candle to the German people. It’s not just your media that is ridiculous. Cheers
@normanbott
@normanbott 2 жыл бұрын
UK here - I wish our media would offer content like this. That's why I've subscribed and been watching for some time.A rally excellent video today.
@ulicrammond1756
@ulicrammond1756 2 жыл бұрын
Y'all lol that may stump them. When I watch US news, the news readers always seem to be shouting, not at all relaxed, almost like they are standing on a soap box in Times Square.
@Yomi4D
@Yomi4D 2 жыл бұрын
"Nobody is free, till everybody is free" - Fanie Lou Hamer
@JerryMetal
@JerryMetal 2 жыл бұрын
Even if every country was free, there would still be fighting over which rules and regulations the freedom needs to have and how other countries should adhere to the set rules :P
@omnicromagnon3793
@omnicromagnon3793 2 жыл бұрын
anarchy is coming in..
@Anon1370
@Anon1370 2 жыл бұрын
free = dead released from life it could also mean
@davidmanning7052
@davidmanning7052 2 жыл бұрын
Incredibly intelligent and well-educated panel that gets directly to the point! Well done!
@tjk3430
@tjk3430 2 жыл бұрын
@Mark ANTONY that's a low bar.
@rpaiz87
@rpaiz87 2 жыл бұрын
This show needs to be longer, they always cut it short when the conversation starts getting to the heart of the issue.
@wokeaf1337
@wokeaf1337 2 жыл бұрын
yeah not even half an hours, its a crime.
@Mic_Glow
@Mic_Glow 2 жыл бұрын
Eastern Europeans were under occupation multiple times and betrayed/ abandoned in WW2. And words don't cost anything nor mean much. We want actions and gear. We need an united EU military 105% ready and use NATO (mainly the US) only as a backup/ nuclear deterrent. It would take weeks for the US to mobilize and it's better to stop the enemy at the border than to let them roll over Europe and then try to push them back. Involved countries would be destroyed 2 times instead of 1 (or preferably 0 times).
@TheReferrer72
@TheReferrer72 2 жыл бұрын
What? Europe would not need the US to defeat Russia. The UK and France could do it all by themselves. And now with Germany increasing military spending Russia is no longer a threat to Nato's Eastern flank.
@bart5158
@bart5158 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheReferrer72 like we didn't need them in WWI & WWII?
@TC-db6yp
@TC-db6yp 2 жыл бұрын
Dig in deep and arm yourself and your population to the teeth. Biden is a bought and paid for crime leader of the democrat party who are setting the USA up for loosing a war. be prepared to fight it out until Democrats loose in the USA. Look at how the people in charge in the US are dragging their feet and not being prepared. We have sanctions on our own energy.
@TC-db6yp
@TC-db6yp 2 жыл бұрын
Dig in deep and arm yourself and your population to the teeth. Biden is a bought and paid for crime leader of the democrat party who are setting the USA up for loosing a war. be prepared to fight it out until Democrats loose in the USA. Look at how the people in charge in the US are dragging their feet and not being prepared. We have sanctions on our own energy.
@georgedevries3992
@georgedevries3992 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheReferrer72 "And now with Germany increasing military spending Russia is no longer a threat to Nato's Eastern flank." You do realize that until the Jerrys rearm themselves properly it will take about 5 years or so right?
@bobhanover4841
@bobhanover4841 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! My first time here on this channel. Great panel!
@shiwakuseven5859
@shiwakuseven5859 2 жыл бұрын
"The best help is self-help." Germany and all other NATO nations now realize that it is extremely important to become as militarily strong as possible in addition to hoping that the NATO alliance remains united.
@navkaDev
@navkaDev 2 жыл бұрын
@FlyingMonkies325 ofc NATO knew the things were brewing, cause they had been brewing them by themselves all along. Peace and democracy? That was never the aim of NATO. This is a military organization and all it does is creating mess and instability to gain economic profit of it. Divide and conquer, that's the real slogan of NATO, and not all these childish dreams about "democracy".
@ТатьянаДусенко-ь5ж
@ТатьянаДусенко-ь5ж 2 жыл бұрын
Альянс НАТО уже развалился.
@gerg5555
@gerg5555 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I watch DW instead of US media. Keep up the good work.
@marky0071
@marky0071 2 жыл бұрын
Super interview, DW. People from different nations sharing opinions with no censorship, this is the way it should be! Thank you
@neo69121
@neo69121 2 жыл бұрын
definitely agreed
@skeptick6513
@skeptick6513 2 жыл бұрын
Learn about the so called Overton window. DW perhaps somewhat better than other media but the discourse typically is within certain boundaries friendly to western viewpoints.
@tracykooken2606
@tracykooken2606 2 жыл бұрын
Very well done and major thanks for each of the 3 guests and their EXCELLENT , WELL SPOKEN INPUT !!!!!!!
@animenation5324
@animenation5324 2 жыл бұрын
i guess from this video all that i got was: generational trauma in eastern europe from constant aggression and subjugation by russian regimes was the primal factor that drove them to seek the protection of NATO. yes the US is violent and imperialistic, but it seems that countries who chose to join NATO judged that they rather live under the US protection umbrella, than live again under russian regimes.
@sjbock
@sjbock 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent summary of reality.
@foobarbazbaa5598
@foobarbazbaa5598 2 жыл бұрын
To paraphrase a well known saying: America is the worst super power in the world, except for all the others. Also way to show the worst side of your people "Warrior".. Arrogantly calling your allies "yapping critics" is a great way to unify our people.
@cindychurch335
@cindychurch335 2 жыл бұрын
Yes the west and USA has problems and we are certainly not a perfect system. But at least we live in a democracy where we are allowed to voice our disagreements. We are not out in prison for criticizing our leaders.
@alad123
@alad123 2 жыл бұрын
This is horrible and my heart breaks into a million piece because US has bombed 34 countries in the last 50 years «for the glory of democracy”. And as a result, millions of people died and 10 times more lost their homes. And no any protests, sanctions and international reaction. May God hold US accountable for every blood shed on their hands. I pray the US people go in and take government out and hold US accountable for war crimes. And I pray for killed innocent children and starving people left after the US and UK supported invasions.
@animenation5324
@animenation5324 2 жыл бұрын
@@remnantwarrior1779 "yapping" my guy its really okay that you're the top guy now, everybody has their time. Cause while fighting for your independence you also literally went "yapping" around the world asking the then superpowers to help you. Which is okay too, every nation goes through that at some point. And on calling you violent, its not saying that its a unique trait that only you have. Its a human thing. You guys are just like the new trendy gadget that makes the most noise, which is okay, everybody gets their turn.
@brushstroke7190
@brushstroke7190 2 жыл бұрын
it is weird seeing so many people agreeing about a single thing over these past two weeks
@mttrader7
@mttrader7 2 жыл бұрын
Not me I hope ukraine gets turned into dust.
@loljk1991
@loljk1991 2 жыл бұрын
@@mttrader7 you're confusing Syria with Ukraine.
@mohammedzakari5561
@mohammedzakari5561 2 жыл бұрын
Mono-side panel
@ellinmara5997
@ellinmara5997 2 жыл бұрын
@@mttrader7 well, there will always be a few psychopaths and madmen out there...
@ehpa9047
@ehpa9047 2 жыл бұрын
Putin's inner circle, no matter how hawkish, has to be having a loyalty crisis, and thoughts of immunity and self preservation.
@mmhthree
@mmhthree 2 жыл бұрын
If he's that paranoid about Covid, he's probably freaking out by now about what he's done with all of this war, etc and the repercussions.
@VTC05
@VTC05 2 жыл бұрын
Your comment suggests that Putin started this war alone which is never the case when it comes to wars. I am sure that this war is a plan put in motion but most or even all of Russia’s leadership.
@concorde3980
@concorde3980 2 жыл бұрын
Karolina should be the next Bond girl. She's a stunner, and she is a smart cookie 🍪.
@grahambrown2794
@grahambrown2794 2 жыл бұрын
Stumbled across to the point program it is the best program host and panel during these difficult times also DW is one of the best I listen to it on CBC Overnight . Thank you Germany
@shelbyhunkler9259
@shelbyhunkler9259 2 жыл бұрын
Great discussion! Daria gave the best description of Putin I have heard yet. Thank you to all, and especially the beautiful lady journalists.
@Andy07777
@Andy07777 2 жыл бұрын
Good panel. Good job especially to Milan, who as my countryman, I feel he represented very well the feelings of the majority of Slovakians.
@levenscott645
@levenscott645 2 жыл бұрын
High value-added discussion. Many thanks.
@kerryhuawei3576
@kerryhuawei3576 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best report I have listened too. Thank you.
@nickkacures2304
@nickkacures2304 2 жыл бұрын
I found DW about two weeks ago and I have really found it to be very informative and helpful
@stephanledford9792
@stephanledford9792 2 жыл бұрын
I think the NATO countries that were once part of the USSR are safe but Moldova and the other former USSR nations that are not NATO members may be absorbed by Russia. Another factor that might change Putin's view of confronting NATO is the dismal performance of the Russian military in Ukraine, plus how long they are bogged down there. My understanding is that 100 of the 150 active military units that Russia has are in Ukraine and the other 50 are needed to guard other borders, so there are no reserves available. If the Russians are tied down in Ukraine for an extended period of time, either in a war or as an army of occupation protecting the Russian puppet leader installed by Putin, they certainly will not be in a position to threaten NATO countries. The other factor is the sanctions and the impact on the Russian economy. Russia is losing lots of equipment in Ukraine and it will be expensive to replace, assuming they can afford to replace it in the first place.
@tinaxtony
@tinaxtony 2 жыл бұрын
Then someone can go in and kick his a$$
@laszlozoltan5021
@laszlozoltan5021 2 жыл бұрын
Finland sieze and hold St Petersberg -
@toomuchdebt5669
@toomuchdebt5669 2 жыл бұрын
Technically speaking they are not bogged down. It took the US army 4 weeks to reach Baghdad after months of bombing. Ukraine is a much larger country.
@moorzymoores
@moorzymoores 2 жыл бұрын
"There are worrying signs that russia's leader might be willing to take the ultimate gamble and risk a direct confrontation with nato"????? He's been doing exatly that for couple of month.
@simonfernandes6809
@simonfernandes6809 2 жыл бұрын
Engaging NATO will trigger World War 3. Which will go nuclear.
@luizpalombini3425
@luizpalombini3425 2 жыл бұрын
Best journalistic material of the war so far!!! 👏👏👏👏👏 *Extremely to the point!*
@tszirmay
@tszirmay 2 жыл бұрын
To all those NATO critics: Imagine if Nato would not have "incorporated" the Baltic States, Poland, Hungary, Czecho/Slovakia, Bulgaria and Romania. Do you think Putin would hesitate to RETURN (to liberate and denazify) their too easily lost territories? After all, Vlad stated that the collapse of the USSR was the single greatest catastrophe of the last century (funny, I thought it was the Great patriotic War! )
@sbalogh53
@sbalogh53 2 жыл бұрын
The collapse of the USSR was the best thing to happen in the world. Too bad the CCP did not also collapse around the same time.
@theonlylauri
@theonlylauri 2 жыл бұрын
They might have created a military alliance of their own, precisely because of this. One more hostile towards Russia and heavily militarized than NATO was until this point. That wouldn't have been good for anyone. But of course "NATO expansion" is just one of the many justifications they're throwing out there, in the hopes that anyone can find one that's appealing.
@joekey8464
@joekey8464 2 жыл бұрын
@@sbalogh53 CCP will have its time, no repressive regime can last forever, it took 70 years for the USSR to collapse, Putin's war is the beginning of the collapse of these authoritarian governments.
@bobbybawbager
@bobbybawbager 2 жыл бұрын
Considering the since WW2 80% of World conflicts have been started by USA and other NATO Countries your argument kind of falls flat on it's face there bud.
@tszirmay
@tszirmay 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobbybawbager We are talking Nato in Europe, not the USA. NATO has never invaded a European non-Nato member or put down militarily a NATO member's political change. Bud
@seanculun6067
@seanculun6067 2 жыл бұрын
He went to far already….even letting the thought enter his head was too far, someone needs to get to him now .get rid of him, cos he is a very dangerous man now…he won’t stop
@deewells1965
@deewells1965 2 жыл бұрын
15:33: No one should care anything what Putin threatens. Europe must protect itself. Europe and NATO, on the other hand, are in a very strong position to threaten Putin, and we should.
@jhyrumgrant
@jhyrumgrant 2 жыл бұрын
The world isn't starved for oil. It's available in huge amounts in Canada, it's just expensive to disassociate from the sand. Perfect the technology and Canada will out perform middle east. I'd rather play Canadians then anyone else for oil.
@falcon55551
@falcon55551 2 жыл бұрын
I feel the polish lady, I don't want 1968 to happen all over again here in "Czechoslovakia". Warsaw pact tanks came to Prague and Bratislava driven by Hungarian, Romanians and what not. Thinking there is mutiny towards the Soviet union. If NATO lets us down this time, I'm out of here, regardless its my home. My grand parents and parents suffered badly for almost 30 years, I don't want my child to go through this.
@besteos
@besteos 2 жыл бұрын
Romania didn't came to Czechoslovakia. One of the very few good moves our dictator at the time did.
@iPLAYER_1337
@iPLAYER_1337 2 жыл бұрын
Africa next destination?
@genkiferal7178
@genkiferal7178 2 жыл бұрын
slava rodu
@falcon55551
@falcon55551 2 жыл бұрын
@@besteos didnt mean to offend. My point was that those tankers were from our own people.
@besteos
@besteos 2 жыл бұрын
@@falcon55551 It's ok. And I understand exactly: my grandparents and parents had their lives ruined by the russian "gift" : communism, also. Most of those countries are in Nato and EU. For now, at least, the threat comes only from Russia and Belarus. I hope this nightmare end soon and Russia is put at its place.
@cathysjogreen4357
@cathysjogreen4357 2 жыл бұрын
A very fine panel. Like the focus and dynamism of the discourse. Thanks for educating me more on the geopolitical concerns of the neighboring countries of Ukraine. Vive Ukrain🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
@georgedevries3992
@georgedevries3992 2 жыл бұрын
"There is this saying in Central and Eastern EU: They will abandon us again." Spot on. That is Greece's fate in regards to it's imperialistic neighbor, Turkey.
@hymanocohann2698
@hymanocohann2698 2 жыл бұрын
Lol. There's more Greek blood in Asia minor than Turk blood in Greece.
@shabbired
@shabbired 2 жыл бұрын
Well they are NATO allies 😅😅 I am affraid how article 5 will be imposed when these two go into war... 😛😛😛
@georgedevries3992
@georgedevries3992 2 жыл бұрын
@@hymanocohann2698 Yeah true. I agree with you. But what are you implying here?
@donquaviuslaquariusdinglen3066
@donquaviuslaquariusdinglen3066 2 жыл бұрын
i would definitely not count on turkey to attack greece in any way, since even during current times its mainly erdogan trying to flex his muscle and he seems to be in quite a dead end too, constantly losing support of his followers etc
@georgedevries3992
@georgedevries3992 2 жыл бұрын
@@donquaviuslaquariusdinglen3066 "its mainly erdogan trying to flex his muscle" The thing is, he doesn't only want to flex his muscles. Because invading Greece and desputing greek territory is the common mantra of all Turkish politicians. In other words, it's their common foreign policy. This is the ONLY topic, that all political parties over there completely agree on. Even if Erdogan gets removed from office (somehow), the next leader will keep the same agenda in regards to Greece.
@NoNamenoonehere
@NoNamenoonehere 2 жыл бұрын
Russian people have got to take care of this Man,Stop him before its too late for ALL OF US AND I DO MEAN EVERYONE!
@Ela-mq6mq
@Ela-mq6mq 2 жыл бұрын
"Mankind must evolve for all human conflict a method which rejects revenge, aggression and retaliation" (Martin Luther). More war results in more suffering and loss of lives. Ukraine needs support not in deepening the conflict through military intervention, which would be a provocation to use even more desperate measures, but in finding a solution with Russia.
@scottrevell2706
@scottrevell2706 2 жыл бұрын
Why can't he go chill out in one of his palace's and leave the world alone!!
@nuqwestr
@nuqwestr 2 жыл бұрын
DW, thank you, although your coverage of the US is often skewed by your own interests, this was above and beyond most analysis I get in the States.
@CMB21497
@CMB21497 2 жыл бұрын
Ukraine needs the aircraft and also medium range air defense systems.
@_rares9321
@_rares9321 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for your input general armchair
@SteffiReitsch
@SteffiReitsch 2 жыл бұрын
Ukraine? A bit late for that now, Ukraine is about to be absorbed into Russia, their conqueror. There will be no more Ukraine.
@CMB21497
@CMB21497 2 жыл бұрын
@@SteffiReitsch Yeah, the Russians are doing great. They didn't cut KZbin off for you Russian trolls, did they?
@CMB21497
@CMB21497 2 жыл бұрын
@@_rares9321 Thank you for your useful reply.
@_rares9321
@_rares9321 2 жыл бұрын
@@CMB21497 thanks for your mind blowing reply
@jmolofsson
@jmolofsson 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent panel, very good discussion! DW is one of the best, if not *_the_* best. And this was one of the best programs ever!
@OpuLake99
@OpuLake99 2 жыл бұрын
but their english accent's is not so good
@felyencisa9065
@felyencisa9065 2 жыл бұрын
This kind of discussions is really a help in order to know what really happen now many feel the fear
@dougburt2449
@dougburt2449 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative! Thank you
@rockflowerful
@rockflowerful 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this discussion and the insights it gave us.
@bocamax
@bocamax 2 жыл бұрын
He's so weak. His entire base of support is being attacked. He has to go insane or get eliminated. As any human in threat of elimination would do in his situation...he will go the aggressive route. But the performance of his military is humiliatingly. It proves he has bad information and a corrupt system of managing his military. He looks extremely vulnerable at the moment. The powers that be may want to take advantage of this weakness.
@Seagull_J.Livingston
@Seagull_J.Livingston 2 жыл бұрын
The powers that be proved to be slow reactive, underestimated Putin, scared to react - at least that's my perception
@allydea
@allydea 2 жыл бұрын
What world are you living in, exactly?
@fredzep01
@fredzep01 2 жыл бұрын
@@Seagull_J.Livingston is the cold war just XBOX title to people under 25, they cant go in guns blazing an planes bombing, Two super powers have never faced off before, it's pretty funny when you think about it really. THERE WONT BE A SAFE PLACE ON PLANET EARTH IF THESE GET INTO IT !..........
@Tazza81
@Tazza81 2 жыл бұрын
Putin will go the same way as Stalin.
@vinthsouza
@vinthsouza 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tazza81 not really
@BomChickyBowWow
@BomChickyBowWow 2 жыл бұрын
I understand that given his recent action in the Ukraine it might appear as though Putin has completely lost his mind, but I assure you he is a thinking man and he is well aware that his Army is a complete failure and he knows that if he cannot invade Ukraine successfully that he stands zero chance of “marching all the way to the Baltic”. I understand that our Polish and Baltic states brothers and sisters are nervous right now, but I truly believe this will pass without spilling over beyond Ukraine…I deeply hope I’m correct.
@passenger3
@passenger3 2 жыл бұрын
DO THESE LEADERS OF OUR COUNTRIES REALISE HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR UKRAINE TO BE VICTORIOUS ?
@Headroomtalking
@Headroomtalking 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the dialogue of people living through this not people removed like in our country in America. Thank you.
@allydea
@allydea 2 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting if all the panel members did not already agree on everything.
@leldesaulite-rozite
@leldesaulite-rozite 2 жыл бұрын
I am from Latvia and yes we support Ukraine as much we can ❤️, but there is a fear as we don’t know what can happen.
@gayatrivoora5141
@gayatrivoora5141 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great insights. 👍 giving all the details and explanation. Awesome 👌
@YanPutrisuryo
@YanPutrisuryo 2 жыл бұрын
A good talk programme....good analyze and observation.
@bluebay700
@bluebay700 2 жыл бұрын
"this society would like to have democracy and see what happens. and the west is what? sending some arms, perhaps. isn't it too... too little. this is the biggest question of today." -- exactly this.
@bluebay700
@bluebay700 2 жыл бұрын
"Fear is not a good adviser." -- this!
@10outof10x
@10outof10x 2 жыл бұрын
No. WW3 is infinitely worse than what is happening in Ukraine.
@pc0875
@pc0875 2 жыл бұрын
Remember, the big bully always going to be a bully unless someone will stand up to stop them.
@mesmerizingmusicalart9034
@mesmerizingmusicalart9034 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, that was full of information the whole world should know.
@kerriemacon6919
@kerriemacon6919 2 жыл бұрын
Putin has already shown me and the world how far he will go
@kerriemacon6919
@kerriemacon6919 2 жыл бұрын
@Health is wealth I'm just saying World War 3 has already started
@pancakesrule
@pancakesrule 2 жыл бұрын
😮 flying nukes
@jameschamberlain5817
@jameschamberlain5817 2 жыл бұрын
@Health is wealth this is someone who authorises humatarian corridors for civilians, then bombs them. Imo Putin wants to see the world burn.. He's evil incarnate.
@cobracrew1986
@cobracrew1986 2 жыл бұрын
​@Health is wealth Struggling? it's not even 1/10 of his Army. He is just flexing his muscles a little bit and our propagandamachine is pushing Zelensky to sacrifice even more people. Putins goal was it all to end very fast. Not a drawn out bloodbath. He got rid of the biolabs. He will keep Lughansk and Donetsk Independant and Crim as Russian. No NATO for Ukraine and Zelenskyy lost all trust for them.
@johndowner2196
@johndowner2196 2 жыл бұрын
You are more "up close and personal" than North American News. Very informative. ✌️🇨🇦❤️🇺🇦
@jameslong4511
@jameslong4511 2 жыл бұрын
I would not worry too much about Russia attacking a NATO member state even if they are helping Ukraine. Once that happens NATO including the 800 gorilla (US Military) would hand the Russians the worst defeat since WWI. If it's one thing us Americans know how to do is built, overpay for, and use weapons to take apart a modern military. Now I say all of this from the safety of being very far away in the US. I do pray for all of Ukraine and the rest of Europe for this madness to end soon.
@rogermartinez78
@rogermartinez78 2 жыл бұрын
Well said my friend!
@simonfernandes6809
@simonfernandes6809 2 жыл бұрын
Russia will go nuclear. You won't be safe in the USA. Don't be complacent.
@rjgc4409
@rjgc4409 2 жыл бұрын
Great interview with people coming from the countries concerned.
@Christoph1888
@Christoph1888 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the chapters. Wish more news outlets would do this.
@martindegaard1444
@martindegaard1444 2 жыл бұрын
No one knows what is in Putin's mind, these discussions are still required
@allydea
@allydea 2 жыл бұрын
No one knows what is in anyone else's mind, but as far as Putin is concerned, it is ridiculous to act as if his actions were unpredictable. He clearly and plainly stated Russia's national interests and the lengths it would go to to protect those interests. Why is everyone acting like he's mad for doing what he said he would do? Yes, there is a lot of Russian disinformation, but the West is not that far behind.
@giantarcsfora9279
@giantarcsfora9279 2 жыл бұрын
LoL, NATO outnumbers the whole russian army
@BubblesTheCat1
@BubblesTheCat1 2 жыл бұрын
One nuclear bomb from Putin outnumbers the whole of Nato 😢😢😢😢so sad. Stop the war please 😢😢😢
@la7dfa
@la7dfa 2 жыл бұрын
We are only scared of a sociopath with nukes. The Russian army is a joke for NATO if we can crush them conventionally.
@Janoip
@Janoip 2 жыл бұрын
@@BubblesTheCat1 One is not even close to enough and then he would get some from France, Britain, Usa and Nato nuclear sharing partners like Germany.
@nurby1824
@nurby1824 2 жыл бұрын
@@BubblesTheCat1 People forget this: Nato has 6,065 Nukes Russia has 6,255 Nukes
@giantarcsfora9279
@giantarcsfora9279 2 жыл бұрын
@@BubblesTheCat1 all their bombers would be shot down, all their rockets would be shot down
@SFolkes97
@SFolkes97 2 жыл бұрын
I'm watching DW a lot these days - enjoy the perspective. I have friends in Germany and a German family member. I think of Ukraine first thing when I get up, and last thing at night, every time I take a bite of food, or drink water, or come in from the cold. On the jets, I'm hearing that Poland did not contact relevant USA officials before releasing news. Gen. Wes Clark, whose opinion I trust, has said this was basically bungled all around, should have been kept quiet from the beginning - said that had this not blown up in the news, there simply would have been more Ukrainian jets showing up in the skies. I want Ukraine to get the jets, but now? Who knows. Put "em on trucks and roll 'em across? Uff!
@sunrae3971
@sunrae3971 2 жыл бұрын
As a German let me tell you it was rather a good opportunity for the ultra nationalistic polish Government to blame Germany once again. Old polish Folklore. It was a political trap for Germany and surprisingly the US to beat the domestic nationalistic drum. The minute it was announced the polish PIS party associated social media accounts had their argumentation online, while nobody in Berlin or Washington knew. They put the Migs into the German basket of Rammstein Air Base without even asking Germany. They knew nothing would happen, yet they still can sell it as "look we demand the hard way". If they had balls they could to it from Poland.
@tallowturq
@tallowturq 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I never understood why they couldn’t just paint them in Ukrainian colours and have Ukrainian pilots come and fly them out. Quietly!
@SFolkes97
@SFolkes97 2 жыл бұрын
Sun Rae and tallowturq - Comedian Trevor Noah got this right. He said just treat the jets like your old couch. Put it out by the sidewalk and if some Ukrainians happened to come by and take it, well ...
@phil20_20
@phil20_20 2 жыл бұрын
NATO's hands aren't tied, they're just holding each other's hands. This whole thing with the fighter planes is a buck passing shell game.
@angelagentry562
@angelagentry562 2 жыл бұрын
Always loved DW as a concise knowledge based news outlet of world relations. Thank you keep up the great work, this was a great panel
@odenosifo9907
@odenosifo9907 2 жыл бұрын
The DW is a prime international news broadcaster from Berlin Germany. Very thorough. I like their programs. Fine.
@zawiszaczarny7876
@zawiszaczarny7876 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone is claping Poland in the back but noone is willing to do something themselves. Sure you can throw military and medial aid via Poland and feel good for yourself, but Poland cannot do everything themselves, mig29 move from Poland was smart. It is forcing others to realize that easy effort of "i send you some arms and change my photo on facebook" help is not a way to go and everyone needs to do something themselves... And it is a slap to USA for wiping their mouths with Poland while doing nothing significant, yeah sanctions spam button isn't enough...
@celecirion
@celecirion 2 жыл бұрын
Now US and Poland said they wont give them the Migs, They should sell them cheap
@johncarrigan7700
@johncarrigan7700 2 жыл бұрын
You want our sons/fathers/brothers to die in a land thousands of miles away? We have sent billions of dollars and I have friends volunteering in Poland/Ukraine. Be thankful the US is helping. You would be overthrown without us
@joecater894
@joecater894 2 жыл бұрын
USA/UK/NATO have given lots of weapons and training and intel... and poss things we dont even know about. if you mean active conflict, then I disagree.... putin needs the option to backdown from here... if he pushes into nato, then he'll get a war with nato.. with the potential to esculate into a nuc conflict. Otherwise nato shouldn't push to fill the gap between nato and russia by entering this conflict. theyre trying to reduce civilian deaths and suffering.. getting directly involved if nato can avoid it would just increase them.
@EWAMILENAP
@EWAMILENAP 2 жыл бұрын
@@johncarrigan7700 We don't need your billions of dollars that cannot buy peace. The USA are escalating conflicts around the world to benefit themselves financially from their allies' bloodshed. Take your blood money back right where it comes from along with your God the Dollar Greed💀
@simonfernandes6809
@simonfernandes6809 2 жыл бұрын
Intervening in Ukraine or sending MiGs into Ukraine could trigger direct confrontation between NATO and Russia. That means World War 3. YOU REALLY, REALLY DON'T WANT WORLD WAR 3. STOP BANGING THE DAMN DRUM FOR MORE DIRECT ACTION IN UKRAINE. Fools.
@freespeechisdead3947
@freespeechisdead3947 2 жыл бұрын
As long as humanity is lead by single persons we always have war.
@bonnierobinson8684
@bonnierobinson8684 2 жыл бұрын
Depends on the person who is the leader!
@carmenschumann826
@carmenschumann826 2 жыл бұрын
. . . very impressive panel with knowledgeable and thoughtful participants who share their valuable sights and insights !
@angelaalba6776
@angelaalba6776 2 жыл бұрын
Great debate! Congrats to the participants! Thanks
@harmless6813
@harmless6813 2 жыл бұрын
The topic of disinformation was more or less ignored by the host. I get that it probably wasn't the focus of this talk, but I think it's much more important than many realize. So I would like to see more effort spent on understanding the effects of Russia's targeted disinformation campaigns and our options to counter them. This has been going on for many years now and it already had very detrimental effects on western society.
@functhefucc5798
@functhefucc5798 2 жыл бұрын
Bump
@RnRnR
@RnRnR 2 жыл бұрын
agreed!
@VoteLaborOut
@VoteLaborOut 2 жыл бұрын
No one person in human societies should have the power to wage war unilaterally. When will we be advanced enough to realise that?
@jgdooley2003
@jgdooley2003 2 жыл бұрын
THe current military situation on Earth is like a scaled up version of the situation in Medieval times. Local Barons held the power and the suffering of ordinary people was great. Then the planet went to nation states where large scale military force became the norm and each nation state held a monopoly on physical force and the power of life and death of its people. Now because of the planetary scale of nuclear weapons it is now time to take control of all weapons of mass destruction, Nuclear, Chemical and Biological into a sort of world government hands. This will be extremely difficult to accomplish but its need is clearly outlined by the planet scale mexican stand-off we face now. The Ukrainian people are now a sacrifice on the altar of avoiding nuclear exchange and the rest of the world are powerless to resist Russian aggression unless they risk nuclear annihilation.
@jantoleu8392
@jantoleu8392 2 жыл бұрын
Is he really threatening Eastern Europe? He has already waged the war on Eastern Europe. Don't make fool of those who see this channel.
@kukulroukul4698
@kukulroukul4698 2 жыл бұрын
waged a war but ....THEIR ''LITTLE'' MOUTHS still spitting
@kukulroukul4698
@kukulroukul4698 2 жыл бұрын
thats bad for bussines'' let me tell you !
@t.m.9182
@t.m.9182 2 жыл бұрын
"Dictators don't ask "Why?" before they seize even more power. They ask: "Why not?" G. Kasparov GM of chess
@47rintin1
@47rintin1 2 жыл бұрын
I love the English Carolina is speaking
@Ela-mq6mq
@Ela-mq6mq 2 жыл бұрын
Hate and violence is not the answer. "There is some good in the worst of us and some evil in the best of us. When we discover this, we are less prone to hate our enemies" (Martin Luther King, JR).
@Pudentame
@Pudentame 2 жыл бұрын
NATO's Article 5 has only been invoked once when our European NATO allies responded to support the U.S. after 9/11. The U.S. MUST pay that debt and it WILL pay it if any NATO ally is attacked.
@johncarrigan7700
@johncarrigan7700 2 жыл бұрын
And what did Nato do for us after 9/11?
@sergiozammel8261
@sergiozammel8261 2 жыл бұрын
Oh? who's army will force US to pay a debt? They may well pay you in Rubles....
@Pgcito
@Pgcito 2 жыл бұрын
Great job as usual DW.
@jimboAndersenReviews
@jimboAndersenReviews 2 жыл бұрын
I am very happy to have found Deutche Welle. Thanks for keeping me informed. I have been glued to the screen in several videos from DW in a row now. This, I think is what the battle between the Light and the Lie is all about. Asha (the Light and truth) will win, the Lie fears the light; keep it shining, keep covering the war.
@paularrowsmith9980
@paularrowsmith9980 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this discussion. It was well worth the time to view it. I also appreciate the input I get from TV7 Israel and Erick Stackelbeck's Watchman Newscast.
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