Dude when you said "Youve got this Crawford" it caught me off-guard because I say that for every drive as well! Whats good cuz!?
@Jasper.Zimmerman13 күн бұрын
I'm doing pretty good. Thank you for asking!
@alexcosta474114 күн бұрын
The proxy throws real nice with a comfortable fade
@teej01714 күн бұрын
What about an MVP Atom as you're straight pushing disc? The atom in proton plastic is pretty sweet!
@robertsoliz682113 күн бұрын
Absolutely!! Second vote for the atom it's straight and torque resistant!
@wesleyverity731012 күн бұрын
@@robertsoliz6821hit chains on a downhill par 4 with one of these
@EthanWood7577 күн бұрын
The atom is great! I use it or the axiom tmepo if I need more distance/staby
@robertsoliz68217 күн бұрын
@@EthanWood757 I never thought of stability as stabby... Seems kinda harsh but I like it lol 🤣
@UprightMann14 күн бұрын
Pitch for that polecat slot!
@bensieber696014 күн бұрын
I've been really enjoying mids (5 speed) and down rounds, especially when life gets too busy to get in more than one or two rounds a month. I love playing rounds where I don't feel like I have to put full beans into long drives but can just focus on position golf. It's really helping my approach game as well. For me that's: Truth, Tursas, Suspect, Maiden, Swan
@ryankristoffersen61113 күн бұрын
How you doin Jasper? Thanks Robbie, you’re a legend!
@forrestchristy663113 күн бұрын
Really, really cool to see you out here before the course changes! And with putters no less, I need to do that more often...
@jawsDANK14 күн бұрын
Kastaplast reko for that Luna slot or reko X
@blakebrittain129414 күн бұрын
I love my Kratos as a throwing putter. Feels so good in the hand and doesn’t try to burn over like a Luna.
@richardlee19614 күн бұрын
Really loved this video and type of content. Good stuff Mr. Crawford.
@nanadolphin14 күн бұрын
The challenger is my recommendation for that overstable throwing putter. Underrated disc
Praxis makes perfect. I use it as a throwing and putting putter.
@LandonJRohrer13 күн бұрын
I would recommend looking into the DGA breaker. Has a good bit a stability but still will push forward. I would also look into a mvp watt for that spot. Love your video and all that you put out.
@ogdiscgolfer14 күн бұрын
I literally had to stop the video and rewind 3 times to realize you said you were going to play the "8" hole loop! My mind is not right. :D Innova Birdie, the Loft Hydrogen (haven't thrown it) or the Super Puppy are the closest options... ( I have some Birdies for you to play with.) Have you tried the Watt for the Luna?
@shawnwhite164514 күн бұрын
I love the Hydrogen as I have one in base plastic and throw it a lot. It pretty much just goes straight up to 300' with little to no fade at all, but I have accidentally overpowered it a few times and it flips and doesn't come back. But for controlled throws it goes straighter than any other putter type disc I've ever thrown. And I own about 45 different types of putters. I was pretty thorough about trying out different ones when I started. 😅
@andrewhood349514 күн бұрын
Have you tried the ringer? I throw the crystal Ledgestone ones and they are money with a straight to slightly overstable flight with a consistent minor finish left.
@ChrisMillerValhalla14 күн бұрын
I love putter rounds! I relax a lot more, don't take in a lot of expectations, and the lower exertion of carrying only a shoulder bag with 3-5 discs and a water bottle helps more than I expected. What do you consider your realistic max distance on the course with a putter only bag? 220-230 for me. When I try to push beyond that with a putter I get a lot of bad releases.
@Joeaxtell14 күн бұрын
So the disc I think you’re looking for is my favorite throwing putter ever. The particle, which is discontinued. I’ve tried a ton of discs trying to find the replacement and currently the closest I’ve found are the mint discs lasso and the kastaplast reko x. A couple of honorable mentions are the p3x from disc mania and the mvp atom.
@kevinkelley313513 күн бұрын
I just got a DGA Breaker. 3/3/0/3 it is very true to those numbers. Nice shallow reliable putter. I would try it out if I were you.
@antonwidell578314 күн бұрын
Bro throw the k1 reko in the luna slot, suuuper slept on throwing putter
@liamobrien319413 күн бұрын
The RPM Takapu is a fantastic stable throwing putter that’s worth a try. I bag two, one in the platinum and the other in glow
@EthanWood7577 күн бұрын
Have you considered an axiom tempo for a moderately over stable throwing putter? I play bayville park in Virginia and it’s an excellent disc for that shorter course!
@JosephBroadbent-b6x14 күн бұрын
So p3x is one of my favorites and then for the second one you could try a parachute, pitch, or range.... I get along with those much more than a glitch personally lol
@mikehumphries607612 күн бұрын
Maybe bag the Berg for the rest of the year and discover ALL of the shots it is good at. Might try the DGA Breaker in place of that Luna. Premium and base plastic options are available for both discs. I hope that your day is fantastic as well.
@rskmoto59477 күн бұрын
The PRAXIS from TSA would fit perfectly in that Luna slot! 💪🏻
@discsmd14 күн бұрын
I'll be playing it Friday! Probably the last time in it's present format. :(
@stuartschwenke665614 күн бұрын
Tough break for you. I think you were accurate on the 3rd shot of the Par 5. You released it flat. For that shot, you knew that it required a Hyzer. Suggestion. I like you have struggled to throw the Luna with any degree of consistency. Have you considered the Discraft Fierce? The inherent instability of this putter makes you more conscious of the angle required at release. Or go with Electron Envy and Neutron Envy to cover the two options: straight finish and stable fade.
@stuartschwenke665614 күн бұрын
hilarious listening to your self-talk. Sad but brings a smile. We are rather self-deprecating in our self-talk, especially if we are verbalizers.
@eoghana31514 күн бұрын
Armadillo for the Polecat, Gold-X KT Pure for the Luna. Those are some of the best throwing putters out there, like a Buzzz basically. Also as a Wizard guy you could try the Ion in premium plastic. It's basically a suped up Wizard. I prefer plasma if you can find one (prettiest, tackiest, best glide).
@lankmeister14 күн бұрын
Try a sonic in place of the pole cat. Really floaty, but you should be able to keep it from flipping. And you might like MVP's Nomad in place of the Luna
@charlestupper674013 күн бұрын
I agree it doesn't flip like the Luna.
@amherstknight307514 күн бұрын
Mint discs Lasso!!!!
@fivestringhoss14 күн бұрын
Came here to say this. It’s so underrated.
@fivestringhoss14 күн бұрын
Mint Disc Lasso is so underrated. It’s exactly what you’re looking for.
@Calvert_Ash12 күн бұрын
Try an AGL Acacia in the Alpine plastic! Great glider and truly straight putter with minimal fade at the end. It’s a wizard bottom and AGL Ponderosa top!
@Dcolbey12 күн бұрын
Have you tried the Streamline Pilot or Axiom Proxy? I like my Pilot in proton and just got (but liking it) Fission Proxy.
@zacharyjohnson90814 күн бұрын
I’ve been looking for this same thing! The Chief is what I just put in that system and it rocks!
@mick143913 күн бұрын
I came here to say the chief OS. I do love the chief, but I love the lil lip on the OS for flicks. Both slept on discs.
@williammiller913813 күн бұрын
Try a tomb for the luna replacement. Straight with a little fade. You won't have to worry about it flipping
@dustinmadden826813 күн бұрын
Have you thrown the TSA Muse? I think you might like that one
@timothyedler454712 күн бұрын
Robbie! Get your hands on the OOP Discmania mold the P3. It's a slower zone. Not p3x just p3
@asloppywerewolf796514 күн бұрын
You can try the Finish line Pace! I've seen Drew throw those and they look like something you'd be interested in!
@kriztofer333413 күн бұрын
Have you tried the Axiom Tempo? In my opinion it’s not as overstable as I think it’s going to be but it’s still got some finish
@t.stegall527014 күн бұрын
Give the ECLIPSE Envy a try as a throwing putter in place of the Luna. Great distance, flys straight with a reliable fade.
@jengla2414 күн бұрын
Exactly! Lunas are flippy as hell and Glenvy's are the most roque resistant.
@JaredTG.14 күн бұрын
Ive never had that issue with throwing putters/approach discs. I throw the same discs i use for putts if i want a straight flight. I throw an approach disc if i want stability and i have an old jawbreaker zone if i need distance but reliably towards the end of the flight. However im not a person that will often reach for a putter on anything more than about 210-220ft. Ill just move up to a mid, which is the strongest part of my game and the part of my bag im most confident in. I have the full range of mid range stability. Stratus (quite understable) Mako3 (slightly understable) m4 (workable either way) compass (straight with a little fade) and Roc3 (straight with fairly reliable fade but dependent on plastic) and i have an archive i take in and out for a little more stability.
@joshjohnson798213 күн бұрын
Try to use the opto Sinus I’ve been using it since they rereleased it in opto. Don’t worry about dumping it to the right.
@Nolast1250313 күн бұрын
I always thought you just said random names at the start, but I KNOW THAT JASPER! 😂
@logansopp498514 күн бұрын
The only throwing putter I enjoy puting some power behind is the Lasso from Mint. It’s deep but actually will have some hookup at the end
@villekonttinen501814 күн бұрын
I'm shocked how people have forgotten. I recall there was some pro on Discmania who fancied himself premium plastic P2:s for throwing, (one of the most copied mold of all time, maybe second only to the destroyer) for their pushing glide and reliable stability, who right now is sponsored by MVP and does not thrown an envy. The P2 has *reinvented* my putter throwing game and I used to not throw putters hardly at all because I just couldn't find any reliably stable enough that wasn't just dumpy overstable.
@bigdiscenergy14 күн бұрын
Just saw the first throw...is this torture? Lol! If you don't go right off the fairway, you're golden. But it hurts to watch a putter on that line. Lol! Fun concept for a video.
@OGSook14 күн бұрын
Neutron proxy is pretty nice. The eclipse proxy has potential to be flippy too
@davidportanova138114 күн бұрын
Soft Neutron Proxy....it is the most stable Proxy...nice flights for forehand and backhand
@OGSook14 күн бұрын
Couldnt agree more. Add in an eclipse proxy for as a second. My e lipse is flippy and my neutron is beefy
@sethsmithkauffman49714 күн бұрын
Try the MVP Watt! It has so much glide and is very shapeable. If you don't like how much glide the Watt has, try a Proxy in Neutron, or Eclipse for a bit more stability.
@geraldjasinski63109 күн бұрын
Please please please try the RekoX and K3 Glow Berg. K3 Glow Bergs are so much straighter than normal.
@MikeKrueger-c7k14 күн бұрын
When I play new courses. I play midrange and putter only rounds at least two to three times. Learned that years ago from a friend Adam "hambone" H.
@randyrittenhouse83814 күн бұрын
P3x for the Luna I tried Glitch then Spore landed on the Notion as my glidier understable thrower
@benoitsouligny86314 күн бұрын
Replacement for luna, stabilizer? Envy? For polecat, rhyno?armadillo?
@jabames214013 күн бұрын
What about Aviar X3 to be what you wanted the Luna to be? Is that too beefy?
@mashnastio14 күн бұрын
Gateway Chief OS, you're welcome.
@Joeaxtell14 күн бұрын
Fantastic disc!
@flexabull14 күн бұрын
Exactly what I was going to mention.
@jeffbaeder485813 күн бұрын
All the yes to that
@vivekarora2813 күн бұрын
Lone star Benny - it’s like a domey stable luna that’s torque resistant enough for you to put some heat on it
@dylanmiller277514 күн бұрын
The dillo for pole cat replacement and the pilot from streamline for the Luna
@BaronWorsham14 күн бұрын
I love a pilot and agree that it throws similar to a Luna. But he was saying he wanted something with some overstability and a pilot has a little flip up and his dead ass straight
@johannorberg417414 күн бұрын
Think I good thing to do is not just say the shape you need but how. I always try to say like I need lef to right walk up, finish last foot there, low to high pull if I need height etc. It is very easy to just focus on the shape (outcome) but nothing on the process to get there (the setup)
@bigdiscenergy14 күн бұрын
Wizard on 5 for 3rd shot to fade? Or a Mint Profit. Actually, get a Pure. You can get an Opto Air for S curves or the hard/medium plastics to get some fade.
@AaronBrancamp13 күн бұрын
Stick with your Gateway connection and pick up a Chief OS. Straight with a reliable fade that really resists turning over
@nickmartens943813 күн бұрын
Not sure I've ever commented on KZbin but I had to mention the Infinite Discs Tomb for a Luna replacement. Torque resistant, flat top, low profile for a putter, nice and straight with a pushing fade, made in tons of plastics, and comfortable forehand or backhand (at least for me). It reminds me more of a small diameter mid than a putter but it's a 3 speed #tombgang
@Euby114 күн бұрын
Shaman!!!
@robertreed71111 күн бұрын
How about a premium plastic judge for the polecat replacement?
@mrw921614 күн бұрын
Tempo, never had any worry of that disc flipping on me but when thrown hard stays straight for 250+. Little bit more OS than an envy with a lot better hand feel in my opinion.
@0679Patrick13 күн бұрын
Try the Lucid Ice Warden or the classic moonshine Warden great throwing putter
@TrueLink113 күн бұрын
I think you may need to re-think your throwing putters. You have a lot of "upshot" discs, meaning that none of your throwing putters besides the Luna are actually built for a lot of distance. Pigs don't really have much glide even when beat up, and Polecats are slow to reach their target despite the high glide. Baseline Luna's are really flippy when thrown hard, so it's hard to get distance with them. You need to get something with high glide and a medium to overstable stability. I would recommend trying the Soft Proxy, the Watt, the new Eclipse Pixel, or re-evaluate the Envy in a different plastic. Also, don't hesitate to grab a premium plastic throwing putter. That extra stability with glide is nice! I would recommend outside of MVP, but the only thing I've encountered that really fits that bill lately is a C-line P2, which I don't think has been released outside of the SkyGod 4.
@charlessheldon125614 күн бұрын
I have a plasma proxy that never turns for me (even though my eagle envy does) but has a dependable fade.
@paulebell11 күн бұрын
Already a big Wizard guy. How about showing Gateway some more love? Robbie C “The Big Chief” Chief OS in a special Robbie C blend? 🤷♂️
@kodyspidle295914 күн бұрын
I've found the Doomsday rot to be that slot of putter, buddy has a premium plastic one and is super pretty but seems like is has more flip then my base putter plastic one, I bag and envy as well and think that the Rot is less over stable but still able to be yammed on without burning
@samberendes524313 күн бұрын
Discmania "Cosmic Fury" Logic has filled my straight throwing putter slot.
@Firefox41013 күн бұрын
have you tried an eclipse proxy?
@coreymecham250114 күн бұрын
Q-Mega for straight & BigZ Challenger OS for stability
@brendanskarpness432413 күн бұрын
Try the cosmic fury 2 (logic) or the 1. The 2 is a bit straighter and flatter the 1
@thejoats726414 күн бұрын
have you thrown an aviar driver or an aviar x3?
@tymohrmann339114 күн бұрын
Rhyno gang! R-pro is exactly what you are describing and
@jengla2414 күн бұрын
The disrespect for the glow envy is wild, did we just forget about the envy after 2021? Glow plastic makes it the most torque resistant bomber putter on the market
@brianhancock360714 күн бұрын
PA2, Shield, Pilot, Ohm, Atom, Kratos. Shield is a hidden gem. I currently throw Atoms. They are slightly more stable than their numbers.
@swimfan68w14 күн бұрын
Parachute for polecat and Star aviar. As a Luna guy trust me to give up on the Luna
@mrhuber1010107 күн бұрын
Im sure you have, but have you tried a Prodigy PA3?
@mrhuber1010107 күн бұрын
Prodigy pa1 for stable throwing putter. I'm a prodigy fan for life. I bag nothing but prodigy if you can't tell! 😂
@MichaelChugg-k9z13 күн бұрын
Try the Mint disc lasso instead of the Luna.
@nolancampbell252713 күн бұрын
I use a prodigy pa3 for that Luna spot
@choirboy9313 күн бұрын
S line Discmania P3X. Stable and pushy but not dumpy. Super reliable.
@MikeQuitoriano13 күн бұрын
Kratos, it's just a little more stable than a Luna but it won't flip over like a Luna does. (That's if you don't mind the bead)
@miestrog.96712 күн бұрын
Need a rhyno or a tank. I use my eclipse proxy for that but u probably have more power
@JMOdg42114 күн бұрын
Tunnel shot and H13 disc golf Embark
@SRDiscgolf13 күн бұрын
Try the c line logic cosmic stone it is really good❤
@Jonskintdiscgolf14 күн бұрын
Mint discs bullet for the luna replacement
@StuG-pr9tf14 күн бұрын
putters from the short tees, then mid range discs from the long tees would be quite satisfying for all of us
@duncanfaw393512 күн бұрын
Hope or Judge in Luna spot?
@rhino2218611 күн бұрын
Lucid wardens are straight to slightly stable deep dish putters.
@markcusick397914 күн бұрын
Try Pa-3 it will hold with a nice fade on a any shot
@AnInnocentFish14 күн бұрын
Yay I’m early to a video!
@zetacobraify14 күн бұрын
Replace the Luna with a Titanium Zone GT
@chrisbolton340313 күн бұрын
You should try the break 68
@geoffreyilgenfritz590812 күн бұрын
SIMON LINE PIXEL!!
@jmheist13 күн бұрын
You need a P3x! Glides for days but finishes with good stability.
@zachwalrath98913 күн бұрын
Birdie disc golf marvel is what your looking for , get Jake wolf white out is what I throw for os Luna shot or get premium plastic marvel if u don’t want base plastic
@davismorehead249414 күн бұрын
I thought you were replacing strait pig
@mrmeta4andjmess3 күн бұрын
I'm a big fan of VIP Harps... Fly straight with a consistent fade