"Putting a Wicked Edge on Spyderco Endura 4" by Nutnfancy

Come into the Nutnfancy Workshop as we re-edge the Hall of Fame Endura 4 (in a cool orange color). This is the Edge Pro Apex sharpener in action again and it's my favorite. You will see it produce wicked sharpness again even in my unskilled hands. Get it at: www.bladehq.com... Likability Scale on Edge Pro Apex: 10 out of 10

[@jessefiorinif6057]

Best advertisement for the wicked edge ever.

[@CrustyCurmudgeon]

Look at Nutn's hand shaking around the 7 minute mark as he tries to hold that blade steady on the Apex table. Imagine having a dozen or so blades to do at a time. Imagine the challenge of keeping an 8" or 10" blade at a constant angle while you grind with the other hand. The Apex can do a great job, but I'm not sure it hasn't been seriously bested by the Wicked Edge, which holds the blade in place with a clamp, leaving the operator with only one task - grinding - to concentrate on.

[@FargoFX]

Great show as always. Your straightforward, honest and practical videos really raise the bar on KZbin.

[@williamwinn948]

Sheep's blood from castrating it on my endura 4. you should turn that into a tee shirt nutnfancy

[@m4oni]

I love your relationship with your sons Nutn. Glad he is back and doing well. My oldest gets back in March from Mexico. Second oldest in a year from Chile. :)

[@c4guitar]

My most important tool as a man! After watching you sharpen the knife I was not expecting that.

[@ratrod3598]

Wicked edge with an edge pro. 😂

[@chrissmith9151]

If you use frog tape, the water won't affect it so much. Also, anyone buying an edge pro needs to also buy a drill collar so they they can maintain the correct angle when switching to different stones. Over time, the stone thicknesses will vary causing your sharpening angles to change as you switch stones.

[@nicholassgherzi3895]

That's actually a great observation.

[@purplemutantas]

I don't understand carrying a dull knife. I like to keep my knives sharp enough to easily cut receipt paper. The Spyderco sharpmaker works great on my delica 4 FFG and all my other knives. With all the different sharpening options these days, there is no excuse for a dull knife.

[@thegoldensaber4531]

+Russel Bush I agree that a knife should never be dull, but that's a bit extreme. You can still easily take care of business with a dull knife if you're stabbing and not slashing... Prisoners use much worse every day and many people still die.

[@anastasiareed360]

+purplemutantas I can get a decent blade with a 20$ lansky 4-rod system in 10 minutes, so you're right, there's no excuse

[@azkKiller]

Thanks for bring us back into the shop. Its great to hear the smells is doing fine and most importantly safe and sound.

[@BruceJC75]

Just got mine! I love it! My kitchen knives literally fall through whatever I'm cutting!

[@RJsumthn]

The thing about the Apex is that it uses water stones and they are a very soft stone and they will develop a hollow in them after some use. The hollow adds inconsistency to it. Water stones can be flattened on a glass plate with sandpaper though. I use a lot of water stones in my woodshop for my chisels and I flatten them after every sharpening session.

[@freman007]

I use a similar sharpener and it is exceptionally good. For myself I put duct tape either side of the blade to avoid scratching, and sharpening I just go till I feel the burr on the other side, then flip and sharpen till burr, then move up to the next stone. Finish on a leather or balsa strop with honing compound. An angle cube is good for getting an exact angle. That said, I'm sure Nutnfancy has far more knives than I do.

[@EDKG]

Sometimes I can't do a Nutn vid, but the first couple of minutes of this were pretty funny...reminded me what I like about his vids.

[@nutnfancy]

Thanks dude. Yes, I've been happy with this. After the vid I did my Griptilian and polished it to 6000, pretty wicked.

[@NotHisRealName]

I use a Lanskey, but am looking to upgrade. However, sharpening my knives is a fun chore for me. I enjoy the process and love the result. Often I've bald patches on my legs from testing how razor sharp I can make my blades.

[@jamesgang94591]

Sorry, I have breath to spare. The Wicked Edge is hands down the best sharpener out there. Quicker and easier to work with and maintain. Still love ya Fancy!!

[@clippertalk]

I'm with you Nut. Some guys here on youtube are obsessed with light saber sharpness. I ain't got that type of time.

[@buryurfear14]

Again, I don't disagree, I think its just a part of being "Nutnfancy" and having confidence in what you're doing.

[@nutnfancy]

Sorry if it comes off contemptuous- The idea wasn't that NO criticism was allowed, it was trying to keep the inbox clean of the the hate mail that seems to follow stone talk. After 10+ PM's of absolute hate stemming from little more than the grit of stones, I wasn't eager to get that again. There's been some useful stuff coming out of this so far, and we like that. i like y'all keepin' it real. - Also, I'm too lazy to log into my own account. Doodle

[@ALegitimateYoutuber]

Hey I'm currently designing a knife, I have the general sizing and stuff done so far. But I don't know jack about steels, I need a steel able for long term outdoor use but can still maintain an edge, I'm thinking aus 8. Also if your wondering about the knife, 7" tanto with a usable belly, 4.5" lond handle thats .75" thick and 1.25" wide. The blade is .25" thick sp it can take a beating. Going to make a short video of it soon, just incase i missed something.

[@freman007]

I just bought a bit of timber and some 5mm balsa and stuck the two together. Like you say, the risk with stropping is ending up rounding off the blade and while I know there are people who swear by convexed edges I like the nice flat angles. I use Veritas compound and just draw it in a criss cross pattern on the balsa, same thing with the leather strop on wood. A friend has suggested using a hairdryer and some white oil (have to ask him what that is) to spread the compound evenly over the strop.

[@PatriotPrepper]

Excellent job nutn. I always keep my knives sharp and do not abuse them. That is great advice to adhere to. Your knife just might save your life.

[@ThePoorPCgamer]

I freehand my sharpening. This seems like a good thing to have when I do not feel like putting in the level of concentration that freehand requires, so I am sold on getting one.

[@fishman80]

i know ben uses the sharpie to determine blade angle. i saw u dive into the blade near yellow but didnt check angle. any concerns?

[@TheMaxxMiller]

Nutn, I know you don't want to modify your technique, but have you thought about adding magnets to the bottom? They will hold your knife in place more securely. Obviously the stronger the magnets, the more secure. High grade earth magnets would lock your knife down, keeping it the same angle.

[@newcoyote]

You're right.The stone defiantly need to be flattened.The stones also wear at different rates so when you lock the arm at a specific angle,the different thickness of each stone produces a different angle making for poorer results. This can be corrected with a drill stop collar.There are videos on YT that show how to do that but it would be nice if it was explained in the instructions.Something like that could be over looked if you're not thinking of every variable.Consistency is key.

[@freman007]

A Tanto you have to sharpen in two steps, the first is the main section of the blade, and the second the tip. Same principle though, match the angle with your sharpener (unless you want to reprofile), sharpen (you'll feel a burr on the opposite side, which is telling you the steel has been made as fine as it will go), flip over, sharpen, move up to the finer stones. Then set the angle to match your tip and repeat the process.

[@maxguitarhero]

The degrees is not standard on the Edge pro, it may very well be for the machine, but not on the knife bevel itself because it's due to the amount the knife hangs over the edge of the blade holder on the device. Graduation marks would be nice, or an angle finding cube that carpenters often use so you can dial in the exact number you're looking for.

[@TotallyL337]

Nutn, I suggest leaving the dust/detergent mixture on the blade and not wipe it off every time you switch the blade's side. The metal dust/oil mixture is what helps sharpens the blade more evenly

[@FourLetterGT]

I have the same sharpener from china for only 30 dollars and surprisingly it still works from 5 months of use.

[@bloodydishtowel]

Still working fine? I see one for like 25 on ebay I'm looking at

[@FourLetterGT]

Sorry I just saw this, but yes it still works beautifully!

[@giupio88]

I'm interested: do you have a name of a cheap sharpener? The Edge Pro Apex is cool, but too expensive for me.

[@bhilton5898]

The lansky system is great too!

[@nicholassgherzi3895]

Giulio Rossi Check out the KME sharpener. It's the same exact same thing except it has a clamp that holds the knife in place rather than having to hold it in place by hand. The clamp rotates around so you don't even have to undue it when flipping the blade over. It's about $190 on with the base or $140 without it.

[@1lupus]

Hi Tony, I have been using one for a few years now, and in my opinion the Apex is one of the best systems for large blades. Theoretically there should be no limit, as you sharpen one section of the blade you can just move it over on the table and hit the next section.

[@flyhigh8313x]

Thank your wife for being willing to let us come along with your adventures.

[@dasnegotiator]

Hey Nutn. I run it with the magnet underneath. It helps hold steady to the table and reduce hand fatigue and tremble.

[@cfisch9]

Hey Nutn! I know you said not to do this in your video, but I just wanted to mention... I think you should take a couple minutes out of your day to look at a video of the Wicked Edge sharpening system. It uses the EXACT same technique that you use on the Edge Pro (which is a system I own) except you don't need to hold the knife in place, and you can sharpen each side of the blade at the same time. I can see how you strain to keep the knife in place.

[@crazylittlemonkey752]

I have found that it you don't let the knife get dull enough that it needs to be reprofiled and there are no nicks in it just starting at 600 and finishing with 1000 is by far the fastest way to go and it will get the edge shaving sharp every time.

[@tfre3927]

Bought a Worksharp Ken Onion edition - so impressed. Expensive but makes your blades so god daym sharp. Convex grind goodness

[@3rockranch]

yes. right on.

[@DanBowkley]

I'd always been taught to only move the stone towards the edge, like you're trying to shave it, then lift off for the return stroke. No reason given though. Can you please explain why bi- or unidirectional?

[@nutnfancy]

I love four wheelers. Like dirt bikes, there's places they should run and places they shouldn't. I love most brands of motos and I don't gravitate to one brand in particular, most are excellent. Harleys are less my style however.

[@cfisch9]

Another benefit is that it has markings of each degree of angle on each side as you had suggested would be nice on the Edge Pro. I don't actually have a Wicked Edge, it is a bit out of my price range, and I have recently really gotten into sharpening on Japanese water stones (you won't find a dull knife in my house, and I have a lot of knives, let alone in my pocket as an EDC). However, I think that the Wicked Edge will give you the same beautiful results in a fraction of the time.

[@AnomalyTea]

The in-n-out of the sharpener in 5 min can work, under some conditions. Re-profiling a factory edge is not one of those conditions. Honing a blade that you've already profiled, and put a double bevel on is one of those conditions. It's also less about the number of passes, and more about just working an edge until that side is finished (i.e. you can feel a burr along the entire blade). Already-profiled blades take much less time to sharpen, but this video accurately depicts re-profiling time.

[@nutnfancy]

See people? This is useful criticism. I'm gonna try the duct tape, and the burr trick is something I do when Nutn isn't looking. I sharpen to utility, not art. Thanks for the tip friendo- Doodle

[@CutleryNovice]

I was able to sharpen my Delica 4 just as easily on a $15.00 Lanksy crock stick set, I find this system very overpriced

[@nutnfancy]

Hear I show my technique of putting a wicked edge on and show how it works. I'm not always re-inventing what works and doing this for five years plus has shown me MANY play the one upmanship games with "my edge is better than yours" nonsense. I didn't want that here, still don't and if guys take offense, oh well and I don't care. This is just old school Nutn shop vid, nothing else. Use what works for you, I'm happy with this system...obviously.

[@twobitmage]

Nutn, why don't you use a clamp or something? You can put some sort of padding so it won't scratch the blade. Seems like it would help you to stabilize it more consistently

[@fadugleman]

IF YOU CANT AFFORD A SHARPENER: Buy a couple pieces of 300, 400, 600, 1000, 1500 wet or dry sandpaper. Use a sharpie on the edge show you know if you are making the proper contact and use a firm mousepad for backing. Apply some water and use them like a whetstone. Then strop on a leather belt. Not the best but gets the job done until you can afford a sharpener.

[@ThompsonJosh98]

Intersting process!! I use only an arkanas stone and free hand, with a leather strop at the end. i personally enjoy it. time consuming though! i respect your way, just not for me if that makes sense. looks like it works for you though!!

[@nevahenuf]

Aside from the staples if your knife is dull to begin with it's also easy to use too much force and whip it into something.

[@coolsly64]

(Pt.2) Then when the edge is starting 2 get really sharp & sort of a polishedness to it the take it to the ( make sure U use alternating edges of cardboard after a while so ur not just rubbing it against the steel particles) then take the knife 2 the leather strop w/ some green(or fine) stropping compound & strop 3-5 times each side equally checking the edge as it goes then edge will have a slight 2 medium polish on edge then after each days worth of tasks repeat on strop only and

[@Ka-bar]

if you do it back and forth like he is doing....at least when you free hand you create a micro bevel and that saves your edge for longer thats how they sharpen the katanas in japan and it works really well in my experience

[@MThrow]

I prefer to use my belt sander, takes seconds, just as sharp as your wicked edge, but with the sander you get a convex edge as opposed a flat edge you get from that system. Convex takes less metal off the edge, and lasts longer than a flat edge. And for finding what angle you used last, it's as simple as taking a sharpie and blacking out the edge, then when you make a pass you'll see what you are taking off by looking at the black left on the edge.

[@nutnfancy]

Maybe so but you'd be the first! Every EDC check I've done, both on and off camera, the dude's got either a factory edge or a super dull one! I'd like to see it ;-)

[@coolsly64]

(pt.3) edge will stay very sharp for very long time and you won't need to sharpen it as often and not taking away so much material blade will naturally last longer believe me or not I swear it works and takes only a few minutes try it sometime let me know how it works you'll be surprised (naturally the first time you do this it will take a while to polish the edge and there is alittle bit of a learning curve with different steels but once that edge is polish takes 30sec to 5min for same results

[@MillerTime-406]

This is the one of the only vids I've watched nutn that I couldn't believe you wernt open to people's insight. All of you complaints about the apex are fixed in another knife sharpener. One that is, frankly, better in every way. I've used the apex, lansky, stocks, stones..you name it and the sharpener I landed on that stuck is the wicked edge. The best, there isn't a close second to it. Look it up. It'll save time and out perform that apex (no I'm not a rep or something, just a TNP'r that loves your vids)

[@algreen1]

which sharpening system do you mean?

[@MillerTime-406]

its called "the wicked edge". besides fine water stones, it is the best sharpening system, for any level person, i have found.....bit pricey though

[@nicholassgherzi3895]

Matt Miller Even better than the KME sharpener?

[@ethansmith9131]

The wicked edge is a lot like the KME Sharpener expect that the KME isn't as steady and doesn't have quite the same capability for fine tuning the angle as the WE. Although, the wicked edge is like $150 more so it's up to you if its worth the extra money. The WE is great in the sense that you can obtain the same exact results every time you sharpen.

[@leroyjankins7336]

nutnfancy before disreguard what im saying please listen to what im saying. i love the e.p.a and will never change sharpeners but i wanted better and quicker edges so i looked around i found stones for the e.p.a called the chosera stones and i ordered them not only were sharpening my knives sharper and more polished then ever but the process wasnt time consuming at all! and because the choseras are "flexible" you can skip grits and achieve amazing edges. please check them out there wicked!

[@funurayt050]

Therefore its your decision to make. The end results were a very sharp knife I could tell how effortlessly it blazed thru the paper you were cutting. I just think the same edge could have been achieved in half the time.

[@bbroogs]

Opening boxes with metal staples in them can do it for sure! And he mentions that he's been opening boxes with it in the beginning so that'd be my guess.

[@RunningWithSauce]

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[@decnet100]

Not trying to be a smart-ass, but the way of creating an edge that I've been taught uses strokes AGAINST the edge exclusively, until a burr is shaped along the entire length of the blade, then turn the knife around, do the same, then switch to a finer stone. I've had good resullts with that. Now I'm seeing Nutn grind up and down the edge, and to be honest I'm not very impressed with the time that Edge Pro took to create an edge. Could that be due to going "wrong direction"?

[@freman007]

Hey guys, chill out. Everyone has their own method of sharpening and as long as the end result is something you could potential shave with, who cares how you get there. I carry a small cheap stone to work because the knives they give us there are mucho blunto. Scrubbing in a decent edge is the work of a few minutes and means I'm not fighting with a blunt knife. On the other hand, like Nutn, I like my personal knives to be really nice. Systems like the EdgePro and Lansky are good for that.

[@kalashnikov12345]

"putting a wicked edge" is term used when sharpening with the Wicked Edge sharpener system

[@WaagooshTheRedFox]

not trying to tell you HOW to sharpen your stuff nutn, however. if you move the sharpener in 1 direction away from the handle to the tip, you will get a "grain" pattern in the steel that cuts SOOOOOOOO well.

[@SnwBrdFrvr]

Are u lifting the stone in ur stroke or grinding both directions? It's hard to tell since u go so fast. And how much do those sharpeners cost? Is the spyderco edge maker decent for the price?

[@KeatonEggleston]

For everything I spent on the stones and for the system itself on my Spyderco sharp maker I hate myself. I knew it after watching the first review but this video confirms it.

[@EatCarbs]

Pretty nice.. I just use a stone free hand.. it gets the job done. So... How does the Edge Pro do on large blades?

[@crazylittlemonkey752]

You can do it but it is kind of a pain, I prefer the Spyderco sharp maker for tantos and warncliff blades. You can also just put the stones down on a table and use them as a bench stone.

[@bcknives4297]

Do you ever strop your knives? That really polishes your edge fast, if you have the right compounds.

[@nutnfancy]

REGARDING 'CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM'- He says "I don't want to hear it" regarding the varying grits of sharpening stones and other sharpeners. This is a quick and dirty how-to. The last one of these devolved into nothing but pages of "Why wouldn't you use 10k grit? 20k grit? Why not review XXX brand sharpener?" We got overloaded with 100+ emails a day asking to review a every other sharpening system known to man. It's half joking anyway, no need to get all bend out of shape, internet. -Doodle

[@Bobby117l]

As much as I don't want to say I like that sharpener. My only complaint is I don't know if I can come up with the money easily...I'm cheap! But thanks for the video, It actually changed my mind on that type of sharpener so for me at least you did a good job.

[@nathanatramp]

Then, how do you get the knife sharp all the way out on the tip? Something I'm missing?

[@Maca115070]

Dude, you got me nose deep in the shit with my wife! Not only did I buy the Edge Pro, I also bought $300.00 AUD worth of stones from Cody a month back all because I saw this review. Well worth the week I spent in the dog house. A sharp blade is a living blade, all the best to you & your family, keep it real & keep the info coming brother.

[@RealBushMonkey]

you should have Doodle do his own EDC vid so we can see what such gear exposure and your influence has brought him to carry,atleast his EDC blade light and multitool,that`d be great!

[@RawmadeCF]

Ive got the Professional model Edge Pro Apex with the suction base, LOVE it! Talk about consistent hair shaving edges on ANY knife.

[@LoSTRaMaiR]

Old video/ it has probably been suggested/ you may not read comments/ you may already be aware.... but the magnets help a lot to hold the blade to the table, so it is not as much of a struggle to hold the blade steady. Can't remember exactly the type of magnets, but I know they sell them for cheap at chefknivestogo; you may also be able to find them elsewhere. I personally use 2

[@youbikewithatube]

Its not because you suck. Its just because you need a better and faster sharpener system, you said it yourself throughout the video. Something like the Worksharp Ken Onion sharpener. Its a belt sharpener but once you learn how to use it. Its amazingly fast and it gives a nice convex edge if your into that.

[@perspicacity89]

Nutnshmancy, what do you think of the Edge Pro versus the Wicked Edge? Have you tried the latter? If so, do you think it's effective? Is it worth the price? Thanks.

[@sae1095hc]

Yeah, I suggest a decent quality carbon steel knife to learn freehand sharpening. The Opinel Carbone knives are cheap but have very fine secondary bevel and easier to sharpen than stainless steel. The DMT Coarse-Fine DiaFold is nice for carrying around.

[@steveyd101]

You should try a strop. I only go up to a 1200 stone on my edge pro, then maintain an edge for a long time by stropping it.

[@521tifosi]

Yep. That link isn't working. Please post link because I want one now.

[@Mike_Hoellwarth]

Your link to blade hq isn't working for me

[@JDW0LF]

I got one of those Spyderco sharpmakers to try and learn how to sharpen my blades now that I'm starting to collect some more. I am so bad right now... I've watched the old DVD it came with, checked out Crocket's videos on it, there's got to be something I'm missing with this thing.

[@luke31192]

I'm with you Nutn. If guys have enough time to sharpen their blades for hours on end, they probably don't have enough time to get out and use/abuse them adventuring!

[@glockfan112]

Haw you used this on the kershaw tremor. I am wondering how it works on a blades with a recurve

[@williamnelekona]

i think i gotta pick myself up an Edge Pro Apex Sharpener. Thanks Nutn.

[@Machi74005]

Does that work with knives that have copious blades?

[@LogoxSKUL]

He buys from different places. I find that the knife community loves BladeHQ, Knifecenter, ebay, and BladeForums.

[@ap0lmc]

It takes me five minutes on the Edge Pro but I soak the stones in a container you can wash then in it to. Saw a Japanese craftsman do this.

[@aru05001]

I wish he would review some other sharpeners. Specially some small ones you can emergency use in the field if your staying out for a week and maby have an accident with a blade.

[@darrellcooper2179]

I'm about to get the spyderco sharpmaker should I get this instead

[@EliteSniperTV]

Hmm... Maybe I could automate this... Or just use a Ken onion

[@northcacalacka545]

I have done a decent job on my delica with the smith's sharpening system, but it does not gleam like that edge...

[@AzureBeatPony]

This reminded me I had to sharpen my knife. (Benchmade 940, your reveiw) Was used to cut up some carpet, 'cause my dad couldn't find his razor knife. Pretty dull to slicing coarse paper while listening to this on a Spiderco Sharpmaker.

[@millster101]

Just picked up an Edge pro apex,I cant wait to use it this weekend.

[@glockbrothers]

I am amazed on the edge you can put on this. Great video on the Edge Pro.

[@blackieblack1847]

Nice. Would diamond would make the job faster and easier? 1000 is good biting edge. Have you tried running the stone vertical to the edge?

[@zleftyguitarist]

does 1000 grit start giving a mirror edge? Also. How does sharpening a FFG blade effect blade angle?

[@nutnfancy]

Thanks bro for the comments and stay safe up there!...-Nutn actual

[@goblin4]

And how many knives do you carry? Are they all that sharp? Because I EDC usually four knives, but the most used one is more like worker than shaver :-) If you know what I mean

[@user-px6qp4rm1x]

Nice... you got the 'Pro' version, which also gives you the option to add a sissor sharpening component.

[@chevy6299]

My budget is the 5 dollar stone I bought 20 years ago. The Edge Pro is nice but a 165 nice?