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Putting the 53 Chrysler Flathead Engine Back Together!

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Daily Classic

Daily Classic

Күн бұрын

Join me as I reassemble the six cylinder flathead in my '53 Chrysler!
Preemptive answers:
Why not rebuild it? It would be pretty expensive and I just want to get it running, it is fin fine shape.
I made sure to thoroughly remove all the lapping compound as to not ruin the engine.
I discuss converting it back to 6V because I want it to be original. It also simplifies the 6V specific accessories like the generator-driven power steering, transmission wiring, and radio.

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@bertgrau3934
@bertgrau3934 Жыл бұрын
Young man, you are doing some pretty good work. Just my opinion, I would keep the 12 volt system, and the electronic ignition system. It will save a lot of headaches later. That 6 volt starter will handle the 12 volts just fine. I'm impressed with your abilities, and willingness to keep the old car on the road. Good luck to you on however you decide to go. That piece on the intake/exhaust is a heat riser, it's to help the engine warm up faster. If the valve is open, it's OK to leave it open, if it's closed it can cause a lot of problems. Mainly burn exhaust valves, not to mention poor performance.
@chuckhaynes6458
@chuckhaynes6458 Жыл бұрын
Howdy, I'm an old guy who would like to help you a bit. Don't take me wrong as I give you some advice. The first valve you were lapping in is an exhaust valve (smaller). The seat was not lapped enough to give you the correct surface. All pitting and marks must be gone. To get the suction cup to stick on the valve try some spit. I rebuilt my first engine (1931 Model A Ford) in 1963. I made lots of mistakes at first, but some very kind old timers helped me a bunch. Good that you are going to return it to 6 volts. Make sure to remove any paint or corrosion from the starter to bell housing mating surfaces. If possible attach battery ground cable to starter mounting bolt. Chrysler actually makes some heat riser un-stickum spray. I have a WW2 Hobart welder powered by one of those engines. It's a beast.
@allansmith3097
@allansmith3097 10 ай бұрын
Two suggestions: CopperCoat for the head gasket and thread sealant for the cylinder head bolts. Most of them go into the water jacket, and this will prevent rusty threads.
@robertberns3661
@robertberns3661 10 ай бұрын
when replacing head gasket, I was told grease the gasket both sides?
@riversunhawk6192
@riversunhawk6192 Жыл бұрын
Hot glue works great to keep the tool in place. Credit for that goes to my wife!
@graemegourlay4559
@graemegourlay4559 Жыл бұрын
Reminded me when I helped my dad rebuild his 52 dodge. He was an automotive engineer so his job was rebore blocks and grind cranks and cams. When he bought a car he would completely rebuild the engine to 1.5 thou clearance, so a tow start was the norm. Looking at your valve seats after lapping, I'm picking they wont last long before leaking again. They needed to be refaced then lapped in. Nice to see a young fella bringing an old engine back to life.
@DavidLouisLouis-qh9ni
@DavidLouisLouis-qh9ni 10 ай бұрын
Great story 🇺🇸♥️🇺🇸 about American steel ♥️🗽‼️
@billydean3068
@billydean3068 8 ай бұрын
Good job!!!!!!!!!!!! I wish I had someone like you around.
@mikeguthrie5432
@mikeguthrie5432 Жыл бұрын
Ahh, an old '53 Chrysler. Dang I love all those old automobiles. Thanks for keeping them alive. Also, as an aside, I really liked the radio station that was playing those old tunes like "Young At Heart" and some of the others. I tend to get a little "wispy" when I see these fine old sedans being brought to life. Keep up the good work Son. And thanks again. God Bless you!
@dailyclassic
@dailyclassic Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's one of the few oldies stations left. I like keeping the old spirit alive, and I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
@ReaperRestorations
@ReaperRestorations 7 ай бұрын
im building a '53 Chrysler 265 spitfire right now for my '41 Dodge WC12. cant wait to get it back together and drive the truck
@joes3485
@joes3485 Жыл бұрын
These were originally positive ground if I remember correctly. If you go back to the OEM type generator you will also need a 6VDC voltage regulator. One way to have inexpensive new red and black battery/starter cables is to buy a set of Harbor Freight jumper cables and put new ends on pieces cut to length. Good job! Have fun!
@bertgrau3934
@bertgrau3934 Жыл бұрын
You're correct, I just checked my MOTOR'S AUTO REPAIR MANUAL For 1949-1957. Chrysler used 6 volt, positive ground until 1955, after that it was 12 volt, negative ground. They also used some 12 volt systems in 1953. Just a guess on my part, probably for the Hemi V8. The 6 volts for 6 cylinders. It doesn't say in my repair manual which was used and what the conditions were for such use. With the 12 volt it was still positive ground until 1955. It actually goes by which Generator part numbers as to which system it was, 12 or 6 volt. I know I have a lot of useless information, I have repair manuals from 1940 up to 1985. I rebuilt a 1950 Ford 239 cubic inch flathead V8. I replaced the lifters with adjustable lifters. That sure made life much easier.
@malcolmdastur4411
@malcolmdastur4411 10 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed your video, I have a 1948 Dodge 1 ton and I think it has a Chrysler flat head 6. It has a one stuck cylinder & I think I will rebuild the whole engine. You have an old head on your young shoulders.
@ronjones1077
@ronjones1077 Жыл бұрын
Excellent job! You explain each step very well and she is looking good under the hood. Now come on up here to Alaska and help an old man get more of my 50+ classic fleet done! Most of mine are 1930’s~1960’s
@johnhanes5021
@johnhanes5021 Жыл бұрын
I used to lap valves on all the old cars I owned. Had a hand crank lapping tool that looked like an old egg beater. It would turn the valve clockwise about half a turn and then ccw about a quarter turn. I used to use contact cement to glue the suction cup on to the valve. Saw a used one on Ebay for 25 bucks.
@sunny-yl4pr
@sunny-yl4pr Жыл бұрын
I like to see more Chrysler videos.
@DavidLouisLouis-qh9ni
@DavidLouisLouis-qh9ni 10 ай бұрын
🔴🇺🇸🦅 Great memories, I owned a 53 Dodge Coronet, back in my high school days, with a flathead 6 , 3-speed fluid drive the two-speed PTO rear gear, my car was used in the 2 series quantum Leap, I ordered a performance kit from j.c.Wittney, catalog, It included two separate exhaust manifold for dual exhaust, a turbofan, that was connected to the intake of the carb, and a high-pressure accelerator pump, the only problem is I would blow head gaskets, because of overheating, I remedy that problem, with a larger radiator from a 63 Plymouth, Great footage 🎥🎬🎞️👍 v keep up the good work 👍‼️♦️♦️♦️
@garyowens3687
@garyowens3687 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had pretty good luck by drilling a small hole in the top of the tool used for spinning the valve when grinding a new seat and threading a bolt into the hole to use my 20 volt drill and spin it one way for a second or two then the other. Hopefully I don’t sound like a know it all just wanted to give you a little tip.
@forestgimblett2364
@forestgimblett2364 Жыл бұрын
I found a set of 2x3 exhaust manifold from a 47 tanker truck and duel carbs,stock on big trucks . Looks good under the hood . They are still out there .
@kevinmcguire3715
@kevinmcguire3715 Жыл бұрын
Lapping should have gone out with the Model T. The nice frosty mark you get on the valve face does not make contact with the valve seat as soon as the engine warms up. The valves change in length. I did this my senior year in high school on one of these flatheads back in 1971. When I went to to Cal Poly a few years later and took Head Rebuidling class the text book and the professor explained the above. We learned to properly do a 3 angle valve job including valve guide repair which gives superior results especially in the long run.
@davidlj53
@davidlj53 Жыл бұрын
Sounds good! That’s a tough old hunk of iron.
@christophermarshall5765
@christophermarshall5765 Жыл бұрын
I would leave it as it is now, except I'd fit the power steering. No harm in driving an old car with a few modifications, especially the ignition, because points for those are most likely very hard to obtain now.
@SpeedandChromeTV
@SpeedandChromeTV Жыл бұрын
Try using a dewalt cordless drill to lap the valves. Makes it go quick. I have a 53 DeSoto. Very similar cars. 👍
@da1082
@da1082 Жыл бұрын
Nice video! I need to freshen my 230 for my '55 Savoy, so after watching you, I will be better for it now. Thanks for making this video
@mikesilva5069
@mikesilva5069 Жыл бұрын
Nice job! I'm currently in process of a complete rebuild of my 230 Flathead for my 47' Dodge D-24.
@terrypeters8880
@terrypeters8880 Жыл бұрын
I drove a Newport 2 door the high school in 1967 and also did what you showed in your post
@adotintheshark4848
@adotintheshark4848 Жыл бұрын
Actually, it's suggested to use the course lapping paste, lap the valve, then finish lapping using a fine paste. This polishes the seat a little better. You have to get all the pits out so the valves run cooler.
@dailyclassic
@dailyclassic Жыл бұрын
It probably IS best to use two separate compounds, but I went with a 'two-in-one' that starts course and then thins out. (At least that's what it says on the tube). I'll keep this in mind if I ever lap any valves on a new engine rebuild though.
@DavidLouisLouis-qh9ni
@DavidLouisLouis-qh9ni 10 ай бұрын
Just don't drop anything like I did down the engine like I did 🤣🤣🤣🤣🙏🙏 Fucking Gravity, I used the drill to spin the valve seal , and then had the valve's polish buy an electric motor with the buffer wheel 👍‼️
@michaelc6522
@michaelc6522 Жыл бұрын
Nice job like the way you lay everything out and the music is great.
@79tazman
@79tazman Жыл бұрын
Those flathead six are complete die hard engines I had one in a 48 Dodge truck that sat for 40 years and I got it running and drove the heck out of that engine and it was still a runner when I pulled it out but it was burning some oil but still ran very strong. I still have the engine on my run stand and get out and fire it up once in a while.
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage Жыл бұрын
Great job! Those flatheads have a great sound.
@aguywithwood9293
@aguywithwood9293 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your hard work and the direction you're heading. I have a 1950 Dodge Meadowbrook I'm taking in a little different direction. For my project I won't be using any of the 6v stuff though. Feel free to message if you need anything.
@joes3485
@joes3485 Жыл бұрын
The suction cup method is common for valve lapping. I think that a circular magnet would work much better than the suction cup arrangement. You might be able to make your own tool that would work better.
@jameswilkerson6282
@jameswilkerson6282 Жыл бұрын
SHOULD USE TWO SIDED TAPE
@hoost3056
@hoost3056 Жыл бұрын
This engine is the one that will survive the zombie apocalypse. Slowly. But it will outrun them.
@claycoates5056
@claycoates5056 Жыл бұрын
interesting job there are a lot of things that one could do at this point first thing that i can think of is that this is NOT a high speed motor i would not go back to 12 volt no matter what this is a good car for pissing around town GOOD URINAL car try to restore the thing to what you want and as time go s on find another motor and do a better rebuild they can do many miles but they are Small and only have a top high useful rev of about 2000 RPM good luck on your travels
@brianandglendaharkin9457
@brianandglendaharkin9457 Жыл бұрын
Delete it or it will cause problems . We had a 48 Plymouth an a 56 Plymouth both flat heads an a 38 Dodge Flat head good old motors . I us to drive a old Dodge Van with a huge welder in the back also a Flat head went great . 👍🏻🇦🇺💯
@jamesnewberry58
@jamesnewberry58 Жыл бұрын
Will say one thing from experience, those engines don't like cooler weather with a 6 volt setup.
@brianandglendaharkin9457
@brianandglendaharkin9457 Жыл бұрын
Go back to the standard fuel pump ⛽️ when you can more reliable 👍🏻🇦🇺💯
@christophermarshall5765
@christophermarshall5765 Жыл бұрын
NOPE!! Mechanical fuel pumps on these old cars had a really bad habit of vapour locking in summer. I speak from experience on this one.
@user-in2ui6cc1p
@user-in2ui6cc1p 7 ай бұрын
I did the same thing to my 51 Cranbrook, I should have made a video but I cuss like a sailor 😅😅😅,
@bobjohnson4025
@bobjohnson4025 4 ай бұрын
Ooooh....a Fluid Torque Drive...11 quart oil change.
@forestgimblett2364
@forestgimblett2364 Жыл бұрын
Runs nice , I built a 52 two door same motor . I
@bloggereyeram7579
@bloggereyeram7579 4 ай бұрын
Can you show video on transmission function, my 1941 crysler transmission Celluloid keeps acting up
@dginia
@dginia Жыл бұрын
My backseat comment is that you should have done an actual valve grind. The lapping is to put a finer hone on the valve grind. was this era of automobile before the 2- or 3-angle grinds? Keep up the good work!
@ronjones1077
@ronjones1077 Жыл бұрын
PS I just subscribed. Thank you
@Peter-G.
@Peter-G. 11 ай бұрын
I'm currently rebuilding a 230. Did you do any machine work or replace any crank or rod bearings?
@gazza116
@gazza116 Жыл бұрын
the smaller valve is the exhaust valve.
@Nissan300zxshowcar
@Nissan300zxshowcar Жыл бұрын
Nice video, just curious, how would you go about trying to turn the crank to check if it was frozen? That nut on the crank pulley is like 43mm....
@Fredrik98
@Fredrik98 3 ай бұрын
49:40 trying to leran more about Old cars. Is that a transmission realy of sort?
@ivansperanza
@ivansperanza 7 ай бұрын
they're not called "clips"..they're called keepers.
@joebrock9784
@joebrock9784 Жыл бұрын
Young man you’ll have a slow starting car in the winter converted to 6 V plus hard to find parts that’s why people converted them 12 V because the coils and the starters and everything else is extremely expensive for the 6 V because they’re not coming if you plan on driving, I will leave at 12 V starter set up on it and the 12 coil and let you know stuff and I would I would leave that travel alone
@josephmiller1596
@josephmiller1596 22 күн бұрын
Hmmmm what was that drip drip dripping under the engine?
@ferrochinabisleri1587
@ferrochinabisleri1587 Жыл бұрын
At the end it looks like it's leaking coolant.
@chuckelliott3894
@chuckelliott3894 Жыл бұрын
Big valve is intake
@bimmjim
@bimmjim Жыл бұрын
29:23 .. Why no compression results ?? It must have been very low. These cars were so underpowered that they would be dangerous in today's traffic.
@Ka9radio_Mobile9
@Ka9radio_Mobile9 Жыл бұрын
You said it had a V6 installed before, do you know what year and type? Thanks! Nice job!
@dailyclassic
@dailyclassic Жыл бұрын
I may have mispoke, it has always had the factory 364.5 L-head 'spitfire' straight-six.
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