Putting The Mercedes EQS Driver Assistance Systems To The Ultimate Hogback Challenge!

[@ani_b]

Longtime EQS owner here - you don't have to turn off automatic speed adjustment, just set it using the steering wheel buttons and it'll stay there until the speed limit changes again. You can also hit "resume" or the accelerator to resume your manually set speed and ignore the sign-based one. I've also found that autosteer on the EQS does better when you just gently guide the wheel. This system more than anything else makes me be alert, but helps enough so I am not tired at all.

[@johnpoldo8817]

After returning a 2023 Lucid GT due to bugs, we were so pleased to get an EQS 580. Not only is driver assistance very good, but turning distance for this very long EV is fabulous and similar to model 3. We get combined city/highway range near 400 using 21” wheels. I know the single motor with 20” wheels goes further, but we do like the extra power.

[@youtubeaccount9808]

They really need to allow for an offset though either as a percentage or mph. No one drives the limit where we live.

[@johnpoldo8817]

@@youtubeaccount9808 Agree.

[@thesinofthetin]

No one has done a dedicated lucid dreamdrive test. Can't wait for it anymore!

[@max-timothy-lev9834]

I have a 2024 EQE350+ Pinnacle Trim with all of the technology accouterments and the car is beautiful! Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...

[@kakashi3543]

For sure this car is not ugly! What is wrong with these people??

[@lewischime5737]

​@@kakashi3543Its only ugly when it claims to be s class

[@cuisleproperties6351]

The EQS is excellent. But the assisted driving isn’t overly fond of corners. Comfort is excellent. I find the lane change assist unwieldy. But the car is so good that it doesn’t influence how I feel. My partner drives a Panamera but she spends more time in my EQS . 😂 She loves it too. You’ve given Mercedes something to work on. I’m sure that they watch your stuff. Thank you for doing this test.

[@trashpanda6965]

A reason why the park brake engages maybe if you partly come back around they don’t want you accidentally hitting the accelerator

[@FutureSystem738]

So you come to, see someone about to run into you, and you can’t accelerate off onto the verge. No- don’t like that, bad idea IMHO.

[@xan2242]

it's also just dangerous leaving it in drive, you'd be shocked at many people (*cough elderly people) get run over by their own vehicles when they forget to put them in park, recently an elderly lady here was too far away from a parking gate terminal to pay, forgot to put in park, opened her door to reach out and pay at the terminal, fell and was run over by her own car and died. It's unlikely but could imagine someone who just passed out from an episode somehow accidentally giving the throttle a very light tap which would disengage the parking brake, then they get out of the car and run themselves over, I wouldn't be shocked if Mercedes automatically engages the parking brake or park gear like some modern cars when the driver opens their door at low speed, but still... cars left in drive by accident kill old people, it's not hard to push the stalk down to go again.

[@FutureSystem738]

@@xan2242 That’s an ENTIRELY different scenario. Both of our cars, a Tesla and a Grand Cherokee, immediately shift into park if you try to exit the vehicle. (Seat belt undone and door opened.)

[@minelast7113]

What if you are having a seizure and your foot taps the accelerator after it comes to a stop? You don't want it driving in that situation.

[@xan2242]

@@minelast7113 exactly, I'd take the idea that a person who probably just had a moment might misapply the throttle when they come back out of shock, thus the two step requirement to push the stalk down to drive again makes more sense than leaving a car ready to "accelerate" in case "you're about to get rear ended" when likely "you're about to rear end someone else"

[@ichigo19870]

Would love to see the DrivePilot L3 test. But I suppose it’s too difficult to finde the right conditions? Does Mercedes also intend to increase the speed limit to around 60 mph for the DrivePilot like they do in Germany? That’d be awesome.

[@Maxxwellification]

Can’t wait for the 7 Series ADAS

[@OutofSpecReviews]

Coming up soon! We are shooting it tomorrow

[@dpsingh6421]

On a 3-lane highway, the EQS doesn't like to stay in the right lane. It prefers the center lane instead. Presumably, since traffic enters and exits from the right lane, it tends to avoid the right lane. You see truckers doing the same thing. However, if you're driving in the left lane, it will shift you to the middle lane.

[@AdrianLauf]

One note on the start of the challenge - MB vehicles always cede control to the driver when Distronic is engaged. If you're approaching a turn and activate the system and you have enough torque on the wheel, the car will assume that you're trying to assume control. I think it probably would've gotten that first turn after the merge without issue. The ADAS on MB EQs is fantastic - hours of driving with complete confidence.

[@WardorOfLandroval]

I love your car ADD, enthusiasm is infectious.

[@gregkramer5588]

I am one of the few that think it is ok looking. Below average but if the price was right there are so many nice things about it.

[@tomm5936]

Agree and have you been inside. That made me forget anything about the bland outside.

[@B4R0N.]

They go for ~35k used. At that price, it's actually interesting.

[@Awaks]

Ahh yes....the below average priced top of the line German luxury Electric Sedan. Look, it's perfectly normal to not be able to afford certain things that are beyond us simply on a class lvl. You literally want S Luxury at C class price. Appreciate it and move on....Brother

[@Awaks]

​​@@B4R0N.If you need it that low to buy it, you simply can't afford it. You just don't get it amd it's very obvious that you know not a lot of tgese class of vehicles. If you need it at 35k, you'll have to sell it in 2-3yrs tops, and that's on the high end - most likely less, realistically....you can't afford every single post purchase aspect that comes with this. The same ICE rule applies to the EVs. Same way this also applies to high performance supercars. V12 Ferraris have always been the peak of this rule. If you can't afford them brand new, avoid them. Cuz they depreciate doesn't mean you should get em lmao. Too many of you guys ignore the fundamentals....it doesn't have a 35k car maintenance for anything. And create unnecessary issues for your wallets

[@gregkramer5588]

@@Awaks I can afford it but I am value oriented also! My point was that this car is one that I think I like more than most people.

[@zbecknell]

Love to see y’all living the dream and giving us this great content and information!

[@GridConnections]

Impressive, looking forward to what the new FSD gets. The eye tracking addition and other minor updates have really made it such a great system for road tripping.

[@buddy1155]

Mercedes: I am trying hard to avoid bad road surface. Kyle: why is it doing a lane change? (used to bad US road surface)

[@Cyrribrae]

I mean. If that's the reason.. Then that's badly localized and doesn't meet needs here. No?

[@buddy1155]

@@Cyrribrae I don't know, I am European. If EU had roads like the US there would be large protests of people demanding the roads would be fixed. People in the US seem to be fine with it and just use those lanes, so you might be right.

[@malcewicz]

No, there definitely were multiple auto lane changes when the road surface was completely normal on the right lane. I would honestly be super impressed if something like you're saying would be implemented in this system, because from a programming standpoint it would be incredibly difficult.

[@chipsen3359]

beautiful car ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@godofdun]

The EQ vehicles really are underrated. Mostly because of the looks (I don't think they look bad, just boring which is fine), but I think also because in the S class ones you're often missing access to some upgrades that the level of fancy customers are going to be missing. Like some of the rear seat accoutrements such as sunshades. I think aligning them styling wise and interior options wise without really changing the EV specific stuff underneath is the right way to go.

[@krugerdave]

Things are probably going that way in the future, since they're ditching the whole EQ prefix; the EQ cars are just supposed to be the electric version of each line going forward, but not as separate as they are now, AFAIK

[@fmsantoscar]

I don’t think the design is ugly at all. People just like to hate on EVs

[@crestas9]

The EQ models are very popular in London. Especially the EQE but also the EQS

[@krugerdave]

Love hearing the term Rettungsgasse in this video 😂 That's a bit of a miss that the car won't make one, but maybe that would only work at low speeds anyway. For the record, our EQB in Germany won't make a Rettungsgasse, in fact it'll fight you every second that you try to ride the edge of a lane, even if you're just crawling. Also super annoying that our car always fights back when you want to change lanes, even if you signal! It should open up a door for your to go through on the side that you indicate, IMO.

[@u.wunschel7311]

Love Mercedes❤

[@fmsantoscar]

33:30 it clearly moves to the middle lane every time there’s an exit probably expecting slower moving vehicles at the exit.

[@sinoevc]

Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and experience. It has been incredibly valuable to me. I look forward to the opportunity to learn more from you in the future.

[@outby50]

The Hogback is the geologic structure, screen left, over Kyle's right shoulder, at the beginning of the video. Everything up the hill past that is Genesee. (I'm not sure if the summit has a more precise name; Mt Vernon, maybe? It's the first summit with the cool single span bridge.) The next summit is Floyd Hill (the summit before the steep and twisty descent down to Clear Creek/US 6).

[@actgeoj]

Good chance the lidar sensors are from Liminar Technologies as they announced a strategic partnership at last year's "MBOS" Strategy Update.

[@galaxiedance3135]

Thank you for risking your life to bring us this video :)

[@sinoevc]

Your share is fantastic! It's informative and insightful. I've gained a lot from it.

[@davewhitegt]

My Tesla M3P also prefers the middle lane on a three lane highway, but will stay in the right if I select ‘“minimal lane changes”. I couldn’t agree more how annoying it is, especially I always follow “slower traffic keep right”. On a two lane highway it usually stays right.

[@hamptonchivasa]

If you are in live traffic and unresponsive, you want the park brake engaged.

[@ClausPelz]

When you call it weird looking is that for all EQS or just the sedan? I've gotten a lot of compliments and thumbs up from pedestrians in my EQS SUV. That never happened in 7 years of owning the GLS 450!

[@nikhilreddy1498]

This man put some heck of efforts for the camera loved to watch. ❤❤❤🎉🎉

[@benbencom]

Poor cyclist at 16:35 has no idea the car behind has a driver playing dead while testing drive assist.

[@sirgardensalot]

I don't think it's ugly I like the styling it's similar to the Mercedes CLA

[@getoveritlive]

Great video, but the looks do matter when buying a car, Jordan, my friend. It's probably in the top two or maybe three reasons why most people buy a car (EV or ICE).

[@ryanwelsch9384]

With regards to the car wanting to be in the middle lane, my Tesla does the same thing. I think the want to avoid the right lane with merging traffic coming on the highway. Where they were driving the on ramps are that that frequent like they are here on Long Island.

[@edman007x]

You mentioned the Merritt parkway. Thats got nothing on the long Island and NYC parkways. The belt, grand central, northern state, and southern state are all much more curvy than the merrit. There are many spots these roads are very difficult for driver assistance

[@insomniac2446]

Man these tank in price like a bag of rocks.

[@jeffreyelledge9303]

Very interesting and helpful information. Do you have a summary of your data on driver assistance systems? I am shopping now for an EV and this is a significant issue in the selection criteria.

[@Wised1000]

I think the continous harping on looks is absolutely moronic. Personally, I think its beautiful particularly since it looks and was sculpted by a wind tunnel. Form dictated by function. In fact the regular S class is fugly in comparison! Best frigging car Mercedes has ever made, end of story.

[@fmsantoscar]

Agree. Every single reviewer I’ve watched has to mention the design and looks in a negative manner. It’s like it has become trendy to do so and probably helps for clicks. I personally love this design and form factor which has obviously been done for reducing the Cd of the car for efficiency purposes

[@Link1400]

I wouldn’t say it’s the best Benz ever made There older cars are works of arg

[@stolas666]

2023 eqe suv is gonna be the successor to my 2021 X5 45e. Although I'm gonna miss my jailbreaked eu spec speed recognition with speed offset

[@vickykennel7414]

get the Lucid...

[@stolas666]

@@vickykennel7414 no lucid SUV on the second hand market at the moment. Also, Mercedes access to the Tesla surcharger network. And I have a Mercedes dealership nearby.

[@krugerdave]

You have a speed offset speed limit? Nothing like that in my German EQB ☹️

[@stolas666]

@@krugerdave also not available for us market X5, but I had mine configured to eu specs. Gives me speed sign recognition with auto adjust cruise control with up to 10 mph over speed limit. Also traffic light detection= shows red, amber, green display on dashboard and dings when light turns green. Among many other features, too many to list.

[@sirgardensalot]

You can get great used deals on the Mercedes eqs

[@fmsantoscar]

25:35 you guys are talking about this system as if it’s a level 3 system but you’re driving a car which has a level 2 system meaning the driver has to be in control all the time.

[@fmsantoscar]

23:18 there’s a faded line in the middle of the lane you’re driving on. Possibly an old lane marking. That’s why he pulled you further to the left as it probably read it as a road line. I advise you to do this test on a road that’s not under construction.

[@rahansk8200]

one of the latest renault EV SUV automatically parks on the side when you drive it for a long time by turning on the warnings...

[@AndrewBatiuk]

Noticed the spreadsheet has Tesla FSD beta but not FSD supervised with hands free driving. An updated test would be most appreciated.

[@matty7834]

FSD unsupervised does not exist yet, that's why it's not on there lol

[@AndrewBatiuk]

@@matty7834 thanks for catching that typo on my part. Fixed. I meant FSD supervised. Which is still not on the list.

[@matty7834]

@@AndrewBatiuk yeah hopefully they test 12.5.6 soon, that seems really good on highway.

[@AndrewBatiuk]

@@matty7834 💯

[@liver.flush.maestro]

Nice view at the place you did your intro 🙂

[@subbiahpalani]

Hogback needs a stop and go test. The MB adaptive cruise system struggle really hard in stop and go traffic. It comes to a stop okay but when crawling thru traffic, the traffic jam assist is erratic, like there is a lag when the lead car moves the car waits 3 seconds and follows and when the lead car slows the system doesn’t react for 3 seconds then jams on the brakes, which is really bad.

[@barryw9473]

A Video about Robe charging says Tesla claims software issues are preventing magic dock from working. Any insight?

[@tomm5936]

I think I may have watched the same video. It was very odd especially because it was a new v4 dispenser, not some old equipment being retrofitted.

[@Wankidy]

How was the rearview visibility with that middle headrest sticking up?

[@cuisleproperties6351]

It was set to high. It goes down.

[@dpsingh6421]

Not good. If no-one is sitting in the middle, lower the seat back.

[@sakariyemahamud1707]

Out of spec reviews should try the porsche macan ev driving assistant

[@johnnyv5995]

OMG....I actually like the car, sure sign I'm getting old. Maybe the color is not the best...and the mags, but if I had $100k to blow on a Benz I would get it.

[@sketchsketchsketchsketch]

I’d bet it has a different lane change program for Americans who like to cruise in the center lane.

[@aleis38]

Self researched tracking cargurus for this model, these cars have sold approximately 600+ cars in the past 4 months! Mine is...still in the shop after getting one for 45k (Pennicle trim 18k miles) then hitting a pig in the road on the way back from buying it in Georgia 😢

[@panosgk7131]

The vehicle doesn’t want to be on the third lane meaning all the way to the right as in Europe this lane is used primarily and in some countries in the EU only by trucks with fines being given if a vehicle stays in that lane.

[@tomm5936]

When are we getting those i90 race videos, you have teased them several times now.

[@OutofSpecReviews]

They start rolling a week from today!

[@tomm5936]

@@OutofSpecReviewsthank you. I’m so looking forward to that. Love the previous races and I have high expectations for this being even better.

[@nathanwolf5547]

Does the drive mode affect the laziness of the system?

[@subbiahpalani]

The Here Maps is the worst part of MbUX, the car prioritizes speed limits from maps over traffic sign recognition (v. E504) the limits are really outdated. This happens in lots of place including MB R&D Sunnyvale CA own highway, CA 237. There was roads works 5 YEARS AGO, even today the adaptive cruise goes to 35mph on 65mph zone. Guess no one on MB R&D drives with Driver Assistance package. Before MB says anything maps version on the car is V470

[@nerdbikes3841]

It;s not ugly. It;s just not $111k pretty.

[@Awaks]

It looks absolutely fine, and it's shape is literally why it's as good an EV as it is. With the Electric Art Line exterior styling now being standard, it looks even better than it used to. Calm down.

[@joshuarosen465]

​@@AwaksI don't get all of the hate for its looks, I think it's the best looking Mercedes. It's aerodynamic, aerodynamic is attractive and in an EV it's important.

[@davemayo70]

My 2024 EQS SUV does random automatic lane changes all the time. I had to turn it off.

[@Clickworker101]

I would like a apple car produced by Mercedes. They definitely need more styling options.

[@Mike.T.]

They look like a 6th gen Ford Taurus with a slight refresh and a Mercury rear end.

[@Kastefer]

Can’t wait for you to run FSD beta again after the neural net improvements

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

I wonder if Tesla gives them a special edition for hogback? Just as they trained on the unprotected left turns of Chuck.

[@matty7834]

@@wolfgangpreier9160 They trained on chuck's turn because it's a difficult problem and represents a really difficult scenario

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

@@matty7834 yes. And which other oem trained their future autonomous vehicles there? Or elsewhere?

[@Usedcars1st]

I3S 👀👀

[@tomcatt1740]

again how long do they take take to charge ?!

[@superset5]

you're literally on the internet. it's easy to find that info

[@lashlarue59]

The guy filming has a pretty good radio voice.

[@nathanwolf5547]

I wish you’d give Hyundai a bit of a kicking for their lack of updates. My Ioniq 6 hasn’t been updated for a year via OTA

[@CHMichael]

That's a car we haven't heard much..... also haven't seen many on the road (v the regular S class)

[@Khix32]

Seems odd to me that a system that had multiple disengagements is the chart leader - would’ve thought by now we have systems that can run this without disengaging

[@reuelgach5759]

I think pov camera is better in the hogback, instead of all those camera angles...

[@andreknudsne7648]

only lv3 in Nevada?.. it is a desert with only staight roads lol

[@dpsingh6421]

California approved Level 3 first, then Nevada.

[@cordkretzschmar5693]

I rember all the critic BMW got when they came up with their Beaver tooth look. I am not a fan but i have to say it appears not so ugly to me anymore. I think the bow design of Mercedes is also not very succeeded, as a design, but it could grow also and at least ist has some sense, it improves the Air resistance.

[@dpsingh6421]

That beaver tooth look is absolutely hideous.

[@AdamRosenberg90]

The EQS actually looks quite a bit better not in black..... which now I think about it, is the only colour I think I've ever seen one in.

[@hyperverbal]

🆒I like the look 😎

[@geedub64]

How long do you think Mercedes will support the EQS now that they are canceling this platform?

[@at0mly]

Kyle, I think it's full-on Cartism.

[@richie_bodo]

it's an interesting world.. some people, who never have money for such a car, say about this Mercedes is ugly, and the Tesla cybertruck is beautiful to them 😂

[@johnmoccaldi9569]

I am trying to find out which vehicles have the best self-driving technology. I assume Tesla is number one, what order do the rest come in.

[@subbiahpalani]

49:09 Mercedes details for customer facing side and feedback is nonexistent

[@ARAR148]

why do these degrade in value so fast, i have a model s tesla, and love Mercedes, but at a dealership, you can get a 450 plus eqs 2022 for $31k with 20k miles

[@ms-jl6dl]

Because people don't like them. It's called free market.

[@fmsantoscar]

@@ms-jl6dlnothing to do with that, they depreciated fast because they’re initial pricing was well over the real value of the car.

[@jonpetter8921]

Great car both in looks and features. There are better rim than those though.....

[@Usedcars1st]

Did Jordan finally get an EV?

[@tomm5936]

The fact the car moves to the middle lane tells me it must be programmed to Scandinavian driving. Even though we have the same law as Germany and many other countries, people like to drive I. The middle lane for no reason or even hugging the left lane.

[@mikoske]

EDIT: Watched till the end :D Looks like systems are getting better! Interested in Tesla's FSD end to end highway stack. Could also try Cybertruck. I think the last test of it didn't have hands free either.

[@guru2899]

Yeah this is better than FSD....lol.

[@MarcoPon]

Always nice these videos. Hopefully you'll retest a Tesla with the latest end-to-end highway stack.

[@issiewizzie]

Wouldn’t it be great if you just parked you somewhere instead of putting your in the centre of the road?

[@YannCavalcante]

Please test the new 2025 Tesla model Y RWD 337miles of range

[@Gargamel-n-Rudmilla]

Why don't u go off the highway with it. Everyone in the Tesla community tested Autopilot on side streets, even when Tesla instructed them not to.

[@v_n_bot]

111K for this ugly bubble... God must be crazy !!! Sorry Mercedes is crazy !!!

[@jovceata]

speaking of podcast what happend to the podcast channel

[@johntrussell7228]

The EQS is such a boring and unimaginative car. It looks 20 years old, who is buying this thing? The interior is god awful as well

[@fmsantoscar]

What are you even waffling about? You just can’t afford one 😂

[@qitup]

Need to get Cybertruck out there now that it has FSD with end to end on highways. Also a Gen 2 Rivian! This was in the latest release notes: "Our new Model Predictive Controller (MPC) improves steering comfort in Highway Assist by providing much smoother and more natural transitions when centering in or changing lanes."

[@R56Cooper]

Please make an Out of Spec sub-channel focused on the progress of Tesla FSD and the path to unsupervised FSD🎉🎉

[@tonpul321]

it is really really far behind wow

[@kkaalaas]

so if you got the money buy the tesla or the EQS?

[@RealElectech]

The Mercedes EQS is softer and more luxurious for $111K. At $79K the Tesla is way faster, sportier and way ahead on tech. Also FSD is way better - takes exists and works on literally any street, parking lots, summon, all kinds of features a Mercedes doesn't even offer. I'd go Tesla every time, but I guess it depends on your priorities.

[@greatleader4841]

tesla if you want real FSD and are willing to sacrifice the "luxury" aspect of mercedes. if you want to drive it like a normal car then i guess get the eqs?

[@kkaalaas]

@@RealElectech you can get one year old EQS with hardly any miles for in low 50"s. and its lane keeping is better and smoother than tesla. And it has augmented reality heads up display thats incredible and 360 camreas which tesla doesnt. it a world class smooth ride. tesla isnt.

[@RealElectech]

@kkaalaas same with a barely used Model S. You can get a 2022 non-Plaid Model S in the mid to high 40s. I would strongly disagree that the lane keeping is better in the Mercedes especially from what I've seen in this video. Tesla FSD is basically flawless at basic highway driving like this. I don't doubt that it has a smoother ride although the ride is still excellent in the Model S - the EQS is a marshmallow. You get a bigger and nicer screen in the Model S as well as a rear entertainment screen that can play movies to entertain kids while driving, but yes it does lack a couple things like you mentioned such as a heads up display. The Mercedes doesn't livestream cameras or have built-in dash cam functionality at all that I'm aware of, nor does it drive itself in and out of parking spots or anywhere without a driver in the vehicle, or do any ADAS besides basic adaptive cruise control when not on premapped highways. So seems to me they're not even close.

[@kkaalaas]

@@RealElectech i've used both and the mercedes is smoother and not rigid and jerky. you can move it around potholes the tesla you cant unless to swtich it off. the meredes hyperscreen is like 52 inches wide across the whole front. no slamming on the brakes for it either. it deos self park. my 9 year old mercedes has 360 camera that makes the tesla look bad. i use it to park and not hit curbs. i'm thinking valiue. i love the tesla but when i drove the EQS it was wow plus the quality of the tesla doesnt match and probly wont hold up long term. Owners talk about rattles and squeaks. i javent had a car in 35 years that has rattled or sqeauked.

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

I am waiting for the day when Tesla gives you a Semi and a CyberCab or at least a CT or Y to test the Hogback. BMW or Mercedes are no option. They are luxury for the rich people. Not good for my business. They are much too expensive anyway.

[@egidiomeola]

Why do you give an excuses

[@vickykennel7414]

that software looks toooooo complicated

[@vickykennel7414]

Egg? Lucid looks better, handles better, more space, frunk- this Merc is meh compared to Lucid

[@quedokid]

Total Fail. Driver assistance cannot allow car to leave the lane. If left on its own it would have crashed. Very scary drive, poor product.