Putting Wuthering Waves on The Back Burner

[@lionearth3190]

Whatever we say, how much we want things to change, gacha games will be just gacha games and their mechanics won't change. Accepting it and playing it just whenever really is just the way. I was really disappointed that WuWa 2.0 didn't bring anything for endgame players but I guess that's it. Even other people are already coping because Rinascita is beautiful, graphics-wise only. Though, there are rumors for an end-game activity and I am all up for it. (I am still in the process of accepting that WuWa will just be Genshin 2.0 in the near future when Kuro Games get bigger.) IMO staying away from the gacha community and playing real games will do wonders for the mental health. I am not a CC so all of my statements are just speculation but, play the games for you and not for others. Playing games just for others or for money/fame is like doing your passion for a paycheck. It is good at the start but the experience gets sour soon. (Personal experiences varies, I know.) Best of luck to the games you will discover in 2025 and in the future~

[@MrBentalton777]

i mean 2.0 as with alot of patches did bring more for endgame players considering holograms are the hardest content in the game. alot of games outside of gacha space also do not have any "endgame" in fact the only games in existence not counting gacha that do have "endgame" are mmos specifically

[@lionearth3190]

@@MrBentalton777 Wtf? Huh? Dragon's Dogma, single player game, has an endgame dungeon crawl to get the strongest equipment, Tochlight 2, Path of Exile(not really an mmo, it has just multiplayer options and is live-service has an endgame, Granblue Fantasy Relink has an endgame, min-maxing, MHW has an endgame loop. Literally almost every game has an end game loop. I don't know if you only played gacha games but endgame is a grind loop to min-max your characters and also in some games keep up with the gear curve for the current patch. We also do this on every Gacha game, albeit it is time-gated. It's just WuWa needs to add variety to it. ZZZ has more variety in the endgame now AND it is permanent. The fact that ZZZ, a gooner game, has more endgame variety that is also permanent, expands sometimes and refreshes, was a shame for WuWA who only had what? TOA is the only thing that refreshes regularly, Illusive Realm was gone for so long, Hologram rewards are just a one time thing. Also events fucking suck. Even their flying challenges is no challenge. The cruisefly 1.0 challenge was harder than the flying challenge now. WuWa has an open-world but it is so shallow that the only thing to do after clearing their checklist is echo-farming. They could've added chest drops from any mob and let us open it with Stamina to get level, talent and echo exp mats, let it not drop any asterites as to make it balanced and still time-gated but I don't know they won't utilize their open world and exploration with rewards and instead put everything on an instance dungeon.

[@MrBentalton777]

@@lionearth3190 path of exile is an mmo lol. also to be fair when i refer to endgame i refer to more challenging content than what the rest of the game offers which outside of mmos and gachas simply does not exist. i dont consider min-maxing gear to be endgame unless the content to do so is actually more challenging than anything else in the game. also zzz cant even begin to compete in that front yes it has more modes for now but none of them outside of its version of abyss is even slightly challenging meanwhile ww has hologram bosses on top of its abyss and next patch is rumored to have a perm rougelike mode.

[@lionearth3190]

@@MrBentalton777 Yes, POE is labeled as an mmo but the experience isn't MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER ONLINE game. The online part mostly is just trading. It even lets you play solo-self found. You can access the new league(patch) on SSF. For ZZZ which is exactly what I am saying, WuWa has so much potential in its combat and bosses and they don't even utilize it. Even in the open-world. ZZZ has more simplistic combat but hey there are stuff to do. Dark souls games exists bro. You also grind souls and whatnot to level up your character to bloat your stats and make the bosses easier to beat. I know there are hardcore players that will do it level 1 with no clothes and bare fist but I am speaking in general. And in MMOs, most challenging bosses are just mechanic or gear check difficulty based. That's why you grind for endgame, but that is also applicable to other games. Even Pokemon. It is called "Progression". WuWa lacks in the variety of Progression. Now I am convinced you only play gacha games or not really play that much games in general. WuWa also does not have anything challenging aside from Holograms and it's drops doesn't even refresh. And it also can be just a dps check. You can skip all the bullshit attacks with just more damage like every game. WuWa's Abyss is just like Genshin's/ZZZ abyss. Just a dps check. You grind and level up characters you will clear it. It's not that WuWa is lacking in difficulty (though I would like some more tbh) but IT LACKS VARIETY is what I am saying. If that new rogue-like mode doesn't bring new mechanics rather than "oh you got 40% more damage from this card" then it's not worth it.

[@lionearth3190]

@@MrBentalton777 I typed a long comment but it didn't show, the heck. Shortened version: POE - by name it is MMO, by gameplay it is not MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER ONLINE game. Min-maxing is the progression to Endgame is what I am saying. Can be to get ready for the new patch or new content. Like every other live service game. WuWa lacks in both progression and endgame. Ways to max your character (Progression), and where to play that maxed out character(Endgame) to get the best rewards. WuWa has ton more potential for combat that is why it is shameful that ZZZ has more modes to put the said completed character, it has an endless battle tower too, you know.

[@maymainssharedonebraincell6022]

feels like most of the problem is caused by being a gacha cc in itself (which unfortunately has to interact with gacha community) I get where this is coming from and agree with some of your point. But man this should have been easier to understand if you just said "I'm not satisfied with what the game and it's community is becoming and I'm tired of dealing with people so I'm gonna do something else" there! straight to the point. no one gonna judge you (no real person I mean) since it's how you feel. just save people their times man

[@MrKami123456]

Literally was thinking the same thing 😂 bro took nearly 14 minutes and gave only 2 reasons. Decent reasons, just took way too long to get to his point. Thank the Algo for that I guess 😅

[@Noobster474]

It's the end for Kurogames. They're not ready for my King's absence

[@srdragan317]

lol the coping is so hard on this one

[@ALMIGHTYPRIDE]

Who even is this dude 💀

[@nobletenshi7659]

It is what it is.. Didnt think you would abandoned Changli like that.

[@Sanoctera]

It just feels like you were never a true fan of Wuthering Waves....as long as it got stale and a new shiny flashy game came out, you were always going to leave Waves. To be honest, the way you talked about it, I did not think you would just quit it that easily. It truly disappoints me.

[@YuriDSC]

You're right for yourself, the problem is that subjective views and options are just that. In reality, 2.0 only proves that Kuro knows what they are doing. After the HSR 3.0 fiasco in terms of story and powercreep, WuWa's 2.0 is genuinely refreshing and I've seen nothing to suggest they are stopping or slowing down in implementing more events, more activities, more QoL and more "end game" whatever that means. In reality, you burned yourself, by nolife-ing it, this is probably the dumbest thing one can do with a "WIP" projects. Take your time off, chill, enjoy other stuff, maybe just do your dailies so you don't fall too far behind, and later on give it another go. The whole shitting on a ship before you take your boat and leave is not a cool vibe.

[@veedizzy]

true. the community is being weaponized by the vocal minority.

[@callumholland8932]

@@veedizzy minorities* they have little sub groups upon sub groups and how dare you oppose their truth Is most gatcha landscapes.

[@UnivErsum321]

@@veedizzy that is so true specially some cc

[@chrisinacup]

What game is being played in the video?

[@KuroBot69]

Wait why... ? I thought that rinashita would save wuwa 😭

[@srdragan317]

it did tho

[@stephankoen9349]

People who say 2.0 is not good, does not know what they talking about.

[@christophealexander3262]

@@KuroBot69 umm but it did, they make tons of money and stay at no 2 in ps5 store

[@iflgames3245]

​@@christophealexander3262 still ZZZ made more money.

[@luisespinoza3877]

@@iflgames3245 again money doesn’t equate to quality. Shit iphone makes more money yet android has the better tech and the one thing iphone been trying forever. A great fucking camera that android had since 2014

[@veedizzy]

All the best Fox

[@kuro9138]

arknights endfield world building is what wuthering waves should've been. from what i experienced so far. wuthering waves is going fantasy kinda theme or some sort. which is well i did enjoy, people have different opinions and i understand that it is a big turn off for a lot of people since what 1.0 delivered is different than 2.0. as for arknights endfield it is legit a post apocalyptic world, every corner of it which i like. but i will still love wuwa regardless of the changes. and hey no worries dude your point is valid even ryuuku sensei is not vibing on what 2.0 has to offer. but yea different people with different opinions and i hope good things happen along your way. ^^ and yea wuwa community is starting go genshin route ngl which i dislike, this happen to popular gacha game when give enough exposure.

[@nobletenshi7659]

Another CC who moved on when Wuwu came out.. said something along the lines.. Wuwu just doesnt know what i wants to be as its setting.. is it post apocoplse. is it fantasy land ?. Then they've thrown blackshores in as Sci-fi, and now Renocista, which is Venice with its dazzzle and flair... It really doesnt know what it wants to be. He saw it from the begining. I totally understand it now.

[@YaToGamiKuro]

wuwa is not on the current timeline of the "post apocalyptic" the world of wuwa is in the recovery state after post apocalyptic

[@laladeity2196]

up to you

[@swissmiss799]

this is how i feel back then when i quit on zhezi banner i guess 1.2 or 1.3 i forgot its like a lantern rite that time and free xiangli yao is in the corner but my feeling of being burned out of the game for doing the same thing over and over again ( Same goes to other gacha games such as genshin ) and i dont like the story and i dont like the characters to be honest the CC's Reaction to their design its not getting in me only changli i think looks good in this game. then i finally quit didnt wait for the free 5 star i just quit i woke up not doing my daily sht on gacha games and start doing some other things for my life and it feels good not gonna lie. but 2.0 came out and i think woah flying looks cool i wanna experience it so i came back and start playing again just for that and eventually will quit again its only to satisfy my curiosity.

[@halacron1]

Ok bye.

[@Gacha_Drax]

Still love you Fox! I support you in everything you do!

[@chrisunknown8556]

dont be a victim of the hoyoshills be strong

[@justplay5016]

Why? Because WuWa is too mental for you? You don't like solving puzzles and thinking?