PvP Man vs Cobra (Elite Dangerous Odyssey Alpha)

Exploring combat in the new update. I chose a side in the station but after the Dropship let me out, it asked me to choose again. While I was trying to figure out how to pick a side, a Cobra showed up.

[@buhatkj]

Lol that was me. It was the wierdest thing, i thought id hit you a few times but it was like it didnt do much if any damage? I hadn't joined the CZ, just wanted to try and see what would happen. Also super hard to hit with fixed weapons i had on it. Did I hit you at all?

[@cmdrthreeofnine1006]

Lol o7! You raked me once with the laser and it instantly zapped my shields. I imagine one more rake and I’d been toast. If you’d had dumbfire missiles you’d have sterilized the place lol

[@buhatkj]

@@cmdrthreeofnine1006 Heh yeh thats what my squadmates suggested, maybe give that a try tonight o7 Love your content :-)

[@ratstar4102]

This video is a big contribution to the devs job.....Thanks a lot, but still they need to reduce the damage of the human weapons againts ship, As it feels like the ship is made in china.

[@lovethesabres06]

@@ratstar4102 was the Cobra engineered? Did he have pips in sys? Too many questions before understanding that

[@ratstar4102]

​@@lovethesabres06 nope, if we put it this way that a fully engineered Human weapon can blow any ship easily, its the worst thing to apply on the game, Like is this Ironman or what? Its acceptable if the Ship exploded by defensive base turrets. But the human weapon fire size are like little needles to the ship size. Its same logic of a mouse stabbed a human to death using a needle.

[@coteof7055]

-get a chieftain -put a turreted multicannon in the chin slot and a dumbfire rack in one of the class 3s -get one of your buds in the multicrew seat to run the multicannon -strafe combat zones while playing fortunate son on loop

[@CanadianFabe]

Ride of the ride of the Valkyries would also be a good choice.

[@Solnoric]

Type 9 - 750t of explosives in the hold. Carpet bomb the zone and dub it "ashcanistan"

[@detectivehorse]

genius!

[@reichenau]

ah fortunate son--------------------god dammit take my upvote

[@Sierra-257]

@@Solnoric im still waiting for them to add bomb bay internals for bottom mounted hardpoints

[@boogeh3630]

Guy in the cobra must have failed stormtrooper weapons class.

[@p-stylez571]

You mean graduated stormtrooper academy with the highest honours.

[@ratstar4102]

the CMDR in cobra after this ask for a refund HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

[@noxapalooza6756]

It’s REALLY hard to hit someone on the ground with fixed or gimballed weapons. I think the go to for CAS is gonna be rockets (I refuse to call them dumb fire missiles) because of AOE damage and the warhead being designed for damaging ships.

[@ratstar4102]

@@noxapalooza6756 you can hit it I think if you get more distance on him

[@maximaxa8264]

lmao

[@BrooksHagenow]

According to the Elite Dangerous Wiki on Fandom, the Class 1F ship pulse laser does 7.88 DPS and draws 0.39 MW of power. The grade 1 TK Zenith Laser Pistol, that you hold in your hand and uses a self contained power source and runs cool enough to be able to hold in your hand, does 8.8 DPS. Seems legit...

[@DallinBackstrom]

yeah something seemed off to me... even if those are E-rated shields without a pip in sight, that's still what, 65MJ? a megajoule is... a nontrivial amount of energy. From wikipedia: "The megajoule (MJ) is equal to one million (106) joules, or approximately the kinetic energy of a one megagram (tonne) vehicle moving at 161 km/h (100 mph)." so that pistol is able to put out 65 one-tonne cars at highway speeds amounts of energy, in 35 seconds, from three clips

[@Vysair]

@@DallinBackstrom what the absolute fuck, it must be a stolen tech from witch space

[@jpmac098]

@@DallinBackstrom For reference, a 50 BMG (one of the largest calibers you can get in a firearm legally) has anywhere from 14,000 to 20,000 joules according to Wikipedia. So these guns are orders of magnitude higher in terms of ballistic output, lol.

[@HCforLife1]

But you know thats alpha and this and many other things already have been changed in the trunk codebase?

[@jamespradier3456]

Total numbers from the vid ~30 bursts - 3 rounds 100% TK Zenith 8.8 DPS ~90 shots Cobra mk.III assume stock shield 92 MJ absolute 77 MJ thermal is this feasible? Only if every SHOT transfers ~1MJ of energy The megajoule (MJ) is equal to one million (106) joules, or approximately the kinetic energy of a one megagram (tonne) vehicle moving at 161 km/h (100 mph). NO. The idea that a hand held laser pistol is capable of transferring that kind of force is ridiculous. vs. hull 2% 3.08 1 grenade - Frag Grenade ? DPS 90% 138.6 9 rpg - Karma L-6 44.4 DPS -- 15.4 MJ per rocket 8% 14.4 3 magazines rifle - Karma AR-50 9.0 DPS ~120 rounds //50 BMG generates between 14,000 and 20,000 J -1,680,000 - 2,400,000 J assume stock hull 216 absolute 154 Explosive 180 Kinetic Feasibility As most of the damage incurred is A) from the rockets of the Karma L-6 and B) centered around the canopy area which would be more vulnerable to the damage, a critical ship failure would be within reason (pilot death most possible with the concussive forces and shrapnel). HOWEVER as the armor is rated by the same Megajoule basis as the shields, and the energy from just the AR-50(assuming it is similar in caliber performance to the 50.BMG rounds) is only able to at most deal 2.5 MJ or damage where the percentage done in the video would require at least 4 times that energy, it is feasibly not possible following physics and the presented data. Aside from the AR-50 discrepancy, it is feasible to deliver at least 15.4 MJ of energy per rocket given the proper payload. In essence the AR-50 would not be able to deliver the amount of damage shown, but that could easily be covered by the L-6 rockets. The shield should have been able to withstand the laser onslaught however, making the former a moot point. The damage makes sense as the weapons are using the right numbers, but against the lore and physics this is a laughable yet entertaining fight. The numbers also only reflect the energy needed to MEET the armor and shield point, damage would presumably only occur after exceeding this point a fair degree. Also the blasts from the ship should have vaporized the ground player as it packs 1.7 to 3.5 MJ of energy per laser, shield or no dude should be paste. 10/10 alpha gameplay. bonus round engineered cobra should LAUGH IN MURDER at these numbers 168 MJ absolute 538 Armor

[@themeatballcommander]

something about that was just painful to watch lmao

[@imploid111]

laser with recoil

[@alexikstend5767]

@@imploid111 might be a super powerful laser. don't know how much energy would take to make that much recoil though. might go straight through the whole planet

[@tamuwu]

@dev null ok

[@baitposter]

The ship should just demolish a lone person on the ground, or, y'know, just leave nonchalantly

[@gaming_for_sanity]

“Aren’t you going to equip a size 4 burst laser to your new corvette?” “Nah, I got a laser pistol”

[@GalironRunner]

the pistol did seem to do more dmg then most of the missiles he fired did

[@artificerdrachen6908]

Just open the window on lean out the side.

[@penatoliy]

Ha, you broke my canopy! prepare to die *pilot taking laser pistol and shoot through hole in glass

[@sykerblade5353]

@@artificerdrachen6908 imagine space combat was literally just a bunch of open holes in a ship for the crew to shoot out of using their laser pistols against another ship with the same setup.

[@Jcraft153]

Just open a window in the cockpit and lean out :P

[@souther-7341]

that handheld assault rifle does more damage than a class 2 multicannon. "Combat is in a healthy place"

[@GalironRunner]

The problem is given how weapons work outside fixed weapons at sites and or some special hand cannons/launchers no gun a person carries should be able to do jack shit maybe with a bunch of people together it can start eating the shields some but realistically given what they get hit with from other ships the shields should be able to entirely shrug off a hand held weapon.

[@cmdrandreyuenari4150]

It is still Alpha testing. If you encounter any issues, please report them on the issue tracker. It will help to improve the game.

[@assaulth3ro911]

The issue is they need to make high power weapons that actually are made to do damage to armored targets (such as ships) and balance that way. Ships should be able to bombard and "grief" anyone's combat round, but at the same time players should be able to retaliate. Using a pistol to take down a ship is quite fake to me, but using rocket launchers, cannons, and railguns is less fake. However, I'd think that 1. taking down shields should be a thing and 2. hitting the right spots on the ship, to help balance... preventing players from doing too much damage right off the bat.

[@souther-7341]

@@assaulth3ro911 I get where your coming from but the real issues is with the current combat balance. As of now engineered ship based weapons (which should always do more damage/be more effective than any handheld weapons) barely tickle a properly engineered ship. An engineered class 2 railgun requires a lot of hits to sniper module and even more hits to kill a ship, thanks to HRPs and MRPs. If FDev allows any handheld weapon to even come close to that kind of damage output, it will completely upset any semblance of combat balance. What really needs to happen is a reworking of damage and defensive values all around, IMO

[@ravennexusmh]

Considering a class 2 multi canon is about 4 tons with ammo. That's twice the mass of the gau-8 avenger fitted to the A10 tank killer so should be much more powerful then it. Vs say an ar15

[@MacVerick]

A hand gun taking down the shields of a Cobra? I think I’m going to be sick...

[@artificerdrachen6908]

A gun that powerful could turn a man into ketchup.

[@jmdibonaventuro]

LAKON! LAKON! LAKON!

[@aDatsun240z]

The ships will need that extra flex tape

[@guidaguida2]

Looks like a boss fight from an old game.

[@SWIFTO_SCYTHE]

Straight out of Contra or Metal Slug

[@Aiden_keech]

I’d say it looks like the bunker fight from borderlands 2 the most

[@Airsickword]

@dev null from what I've gathered its probs better to play something like star sector or star bound or or FTL: Faster than light over Elite and Citizen as most "mmorpg" space sims seem pretty half baked and not all to great

[@h3lblad3]

@dev null, Elite is great, but it's meant for flying through space. The rest is cool and all, but I don't think it'll ever be as well put together.

[@HCforLife1]

@dev null dude you judge the game being in alpha stage which was state of Oddysey like month ago or even later lol. Elite at the moment is the best space game out there.

[@CheddarCheese71]

It would jump that crap out of me if I'm just walking along a planet and find out that some giant ship like a Corvette would be stalking me.

[@danielcamacho4977]

I'm def gonna do that if I get a chance

[@meowmeowmeow594]

When you're an important person in the Elite universe

[@assaulth3ro911]

LOL, if it was just hiding behind hills barely peaking over...

[@BiGG_X]

LMAO that cobra looks like fake UFO footage with it hanging from a string 🤣

[@NoobsRedemption]

and they say elite is better than sc

[@NoobsRedemption]

@Max Pain not it isn't, just look at it... thought maybe space legs would make the game better than SC but it simply isn't... SC still prettier and with more content and detail, even tho it's unfinished

[@Drakey_Fenix]

@@NoobsRedemption Space Legs is all Star Citizen has going for it. It isn't a full game and is just tech demo if anything. Elite Dangerous is a fully fledged game with billions of locations to visit, multitude of activities to do and now is getting even more stuff to do. Star Citizen is just getting more and more ships to walk around in and look at designs. Comparing the two is a fucking joke.

[@NoobsRedemption]

@@Drakey_Fenix why are you ignoring all the jobs and quest SC has? It's a buggy game but it has almost all the same occupations ED has to offer like commodity trading, bounty hunting, mining, assassination, rescue, etc... even the quest givers have more personality. Not to say all those fine little details SC has going on for it. Dont get me wrong, I quite enjoy ED but what is the point of having a quadrillion star systems with less variety than the only one system SC has? On ED you can only land on rocky planets with no atmosphere while SC has entire city planets, planets and moons full of vegetation, caverns and outposts. But that's just my opinion.

[@Drakey_Fenix]

@@NoobsRedemption Once Star Citizen has more going for it then just showing new ships and ground activities then sure. I want to see new locations (real exploration), not in the same boring star system. I have given Star Citizen countless chances throughout the past 6 years. And while the game certainly has gotten more stuff to do on the ground and new ships to see, it basically is stuck in the same place it was 6 years ago when I first tried it. The extraordinary amount of bugs and performance issues doesn't help its cause either when you get frame drops to like 15fps or worse, even with beasty systems that were built last year. I get it, it is a cool experience, but it's nowhere near a fully fledged game and probably won't be one for the upcoming 20 years at this pace. People can keep throwing money at that project in hopes that it will be that dream game they have wished for, but I won't. And comparing it to a game like Elite Dangerous is just not conceivable to me.

[@ebonseptemus6341]

Well. Someone had to be first.

[@jango5927]

well fancy seeing you here.

[@ebonseptemus6341]

@@jango5927 👀

[@SparkS1166]

lol did the same with Valture yesterday )))

[@liamfinlay2039]

"sir, deploy evasive maneuvers" "Deploy what?" Pewpewpewpew

[@LaughingAndy]

Evacuate in our moment of triumph? I think you over estimat... BOOM

[@liamfinlay2039]

@@LaughingAndy "Sir we literally have one percent hull" "One hundred percent hull, copy, set disco ball to rotate and pulse"

[@valthorix7347]

That little pistol does a shocking amount of damage to a goddamn spaceship

[@ajpYT]

I just wanna say that cobra pilot mustve felt terrible being blown up by a guy in an exosuit

[@graffsk8er]

So, you don't really "eject"... interesting.

[@Mallchad]

Hm, I wouldnt be adverse to it if there was a revival mechanic.

[@tarek42023]

I think for thiss we first have to get space walks so that its consistent... if not we only would eject on planets. Give FDev time guys

[@Mallchad]

@@tarek42023 I know what you're saying, I think such a mechanic were to exist it needs space walks to exist too... But that doesn't mean we can't scoop up escape pods and have a revival timer... and go about it that way

[@darthvectivus7220]

@@tarek42023 we've been giving FD time since the game came out. 6 years later and it's still full of placeholders. Would be nice if this Cobra had a damage model like the Conda, hey?

[@gaarpkobayashi3676]

@@darthvectivus7220, dude! Seriously? Since 6 years I’m having toons of fun in ED. And now a space legs? I’ts literally new huge game within so rich game already! And this ment to never happen! Now..., look at Star Citizen and the joke the Cloud Imperium is becoming thanks to Frontier. What kind of game thay have done within same time? None. Unplayable tech demo. So..., I’ll say: Frontier! Take as much more time as you need! We LOVE you already and trust you with our money!!!! ;)

[@werre2]

so, to make an effective fighting vehicle one should duct tape lots of commanders in battle armor to the hull and just use their handguns

[@noodle_Cx]

Yes.

[@fv2977]

Does kind of call into question why our hardpoints need to be so big, if something as small as a pistol's this close to being effective. Even our level 1 hardpoints are like the size of a person.

[@DragonHalo99]

@@fv2977 Hard to say this is probably going to be balanced later since we are in alpha atm. What I would like to know is what is frontier testing and What data do they need to move the alpha along? Are they asking us to do specific things. Also I kind of wonder how frontier plans to handle ground weapons vs ship weapons in the future.

[@tyreekjones5668]

😁😁

[@Dredguno]

it's very easy to murder grounded pilots when you have dumb fire missiles

[@cerealdreamer7577]

Or mines

[@WarriorTech_FTW]

@@cerealdreamer7577 why not both

[@HNTR308]

@@cerealdreamer7577 why Mines? My friend tested it and the base has Point Defence

[@handlesarecringe957]

@@HNTR308 You have to drop them while in glide, fly low, or drop a lot of them. Mines will absolutely wreck a base if you properly drop them

[@joykillz7431]

@@handlesarecringe957 Bombing runs, no matter the payload, just wreck stationary targets in general.

[@fennecky3764]

Man really just lost to a pistol and like 15 rockets

[@intermsofreality]

Considering he never bothered to do any evasive maneuvers, I'm pretty sure they were working together to test weapons damage.

[@wruenvadam]

He may have been in a ship that might not have even been fully upgraded, and especially not engineered. You would have to sit there like that guy did and just take it, which no one is going to do. If it takes a person on the ground a whole couple of minutes to take out a ship that might not have even had any pips to sys, then yeah, you wont ACTUALLY be taking out any ship from the ground unless the person flying is a vegetable. They wanted the weapons you carry on foot to be a potentially effective deterrent against ships, not actually try and take the ship out with just handheld weapons, because the ship has way more options than you do.

[@Myrrhth]

@@wruenvadam he was using a pistol though, the rifle may be more effective. But I tried shooting a ship that was further out with my rifle and I'm not sure it did anything or if he even noticed, emptied several rounds into him too. Not entirely sure how to target a ship so couldn't see his shields.

[@Myrrhth]

Just watched again, it was when the cobra came into range that the health/shield bars popped up. It also looks like there wasn't much or any damage done to it before he came into range...

[@Mallchad]

The ship was trying to hit the target before the player ran down their hull. Its extremely difficulty to hit people on foot when the convergence on the guns are so wide like there are in the cobra. Theres a side 5 meters between the cockpit and the gun, the cockpit cant display an accurate reticle wothout target lock. And you need to be without around 15m to get a lock. Of course, explosive weapons are much more workable.

[@AWACS_Snowblind]

>Alliance Chieftain >Chin-mounted multicannon >Name it "Foehammer" >Profit

[@alfo149]

Diamondback Explorer*

[@stormcooper7875]

then watch it be destroyed by two thargoid scouts aboard a parasite infested farragut capital ship while trying to extract a CMDR and his COVAS AI because the capital ship is about to explode.

[@jmdibonaventuro]

LAON! LAKON! VAMM AND ALIOTH ARE THE ONLY ACCEPTABLE HOME SYSTEMS

[@mikethespike056]

@@alfo149 Yup

[@TheKingOfCasual]

Ship Seller: "Sir this ship is extremely evasive and you can wipe out military bases with a single run" CMDR buying the ship: "Haha guns go brrrr" *While sitting still*

[@RmacNet]

Anyone find it hilarious how a conventional firearm can destroy a ship with bullets but presumably the billions of tiny rocks and space debris a ship like that would collide with during space flight don't do anything?

[@PwnzorBob]

Yamiks punched his own ship until it exploded at one point.

[@LittleKachowski]

It was surprisingly scary when he pulled up real close. It's easy to forget how large even the sidewinder is.

[@PantsuMann]

Something I would love to see in Elite would be a proper eject. Like the canopy is blown off, an explosion from the inside and the pilotseat zipping out fast as a lightning. I mean it doesnt have to change anything game mechanically, it would just be a nice touch to the game

[@ZurakciEntertainment]

I got a question! Why does your energy pistol do as much damage as, if not more damage as a small laser for ships against ship shields??

[@rawrou]

Idea for a new jury rigged ship weapon "side arm array" why buy energy hungry heat producing ship to ship lasers when you can just put 100 sidearms in a box, hook them up to a manual trigger and fire them all at once to create a blast that would make the death star cry.

[@mishka3323]

it reminded me of the logic of the final scenes of most action films, where the hero endures something that is 100 times stronger than him, receiving only a scratch

[@TechnoMinarchist]

Are you kidding me? Why do these ships have such massive turrets then if they can be knocked out with small arms fire?

[@onionheadoverseer5151]

This answers a few questions. And poses many more.... lol

[@Rossilaz58]

Why did the cobra not run

[@onionheadoverseer5151]

@@Rossilaz58 thats a good one for sure.

[@serylt7176]

@@onionheadoverseer5151 I thought it's staged at first, but apparently it's just human error as the pinned comment shows.

[@onionheadoverseer5151]

@@serylt7176 yea too funny. I'm just surprised that even vs un-engineered ship hand held weps are that strong.

[@96Thompson]

The real question is why is that a thing? You'd think that a couple of hand guns wouldn't be able to put a dent in a ship that size that can travel the speed of light and able to take a few shots from ships with bigger guns.

[@DarkSerris]

Why is that tiny pistol more effective than the dual repeater turret of the SRV ? Makes no sense to me...

[@AlterGX]

So when a ship (ie Type 10) with multi crew turrets shows up then does boss music play for you?

[@TheCatVtuber]

Since turret or gimball weapon cannot lock onto ground targets those would be pretty useless... even if it turned into fixed weapon a type 10 is still really deadly regardless.

[@ConnorEilers]

@Kerrigan Multicrew guns are many times more accurate. Manned turrets removes jitter entirely.

[@Seducier]

Wow he fought a ship on foot. Seems legit.

[@w4chund510]

Ok, as next you need to dismount the Ship Weapons and try to mount the Personal Defense Weapons on the Ship Weapon Slots. It is obvious that they are more Stronk, imagine how OP your Cobra will be, when you have engineered PDW Weapons mounted on your Ship! ;) :D

[@Mithguar]

This was un engineered cobra, likely a stock one or with minimal upgrades. Remeber that Alpha 2 allows you to buy ships but i doubt there are ship engineers in systems players have access to. So no, personal weapons most likely aren't op and don't expect to do much against engineered ships.

[@notveryartificial4486]

I think that it is unengineered Cobra with stock E-class shields and lightweight hull, with no shield or hull amplifiers. Even 1e turretted pulse laser would take that cardboard box in a second

[@sky9897]

class 3 and 4 weapons are about three stories of a building tall. using a handheld rocketlauncher to destroy a target equally well would be pretty ridiculous

[@reinbeers5322]

That pistol has literally more DPS than a 1F pulse laser. Even the stock shield should be able to hold up to a tiny *pistol* that runs on batteries and stays cool enough to be handheld. This better be fixed.

[@asvarien]

Seriously? You can bring down a starship with small arms fire?

[@depressionchannel4021]

Stock cobra has a total health pool of 300-400 depending on how you use your pips. Fully engineered beasts have health pools in the tens of thousands

[@SlyNine]

I'm annoyed by how much damage the gun was doing to the ships shield.

[@Mallchad]

Its starter ships with no engineering, few shield boosters, and C class shields. They are 8 times weaker than is possible on the cobra. Shield cell banks still exist too.

[@SlyNine]

@@Mallchad ya, but the thing was a hand held. I would think the damage output would be like shooting a tank with a handgun.

[@Mallchad]

@@SlyNine It's pretty slow considering this ship has a very weak, probably unmodified hull. and he was really close... Damage falls off fast for foot weapons. It's just a cobra remember, the Anaconda has around 4x more integrity and more than double the armor, "hardness rating"

[@northlandphoenix]

@@Mallchad The shield should be able to absorb all amounts of energy that is possible from the pistol. The shield should take a tiny hit and instantly be back at full strength.

[@Mallchad]

@@northlandphoenix Sorry? I don't understand you, that's not how Elite works

[@Mayhapse]

They need to add spacewalks so I can just eject from my ship when I get interdicted by an Anaconda and blast it until it explodes.

[@chaywarburton3488]

That's hilarious! He should've rammed you haha

[@voidkat4202]

Suicide Cobra

[@jamesbeach7405]

To quote Worf "prepare for ramming speed!"

[@notveryartificial4486]

It is not that easy to precisely hit something that small

[@bryciedev]

@@notveryartificial4486 seen someone on stream doing it to AI yesterday, seems easy enough lol

[@raph2167]

@@notveryartificial4486 Of course it isn't easy. But in that case, a blind pilot would have had better results.

[@nip3004]

... any chance I can get small arms mounted on my ships? seems like they would be more than effective and I would save a lot of weight.

[@-.-6428]

is there anything on PAs yet? i mean dump fire missiles explode but do the PAs aoe dmg on ground impact?

[@CarrowMind]

Those better be some stock E rated shields with no pips in SYS for that dinky little blaster to do so much damage!

[@Chosen1Creator]

"I took down a Sidewinder." "So?" "without a ship"

[@TmanT321]

That ain't no sidewinder. Thats a dedicated combat ship. It's a cobra. Really that makes this even more impressive.

[@stormcooper7875]

​@@TmanT321 I agree. Aren't cobras multirole though?

[@TmanT321]

​@@stormcooper7875 Cobra is a dedicated combat ship, as I already said. It's technically "multi role" but it sucks at doing anything other than combat. You can use this new fangled thing called google instead of asking a random person though if you want to make sure that's correct.

[@daxexter2754]

Anyone who plays Oddysey at the moment. Is this the best you can do against a Ship? Or are there any other Weapons to deal with vehicles? I know there is no really Players vs Vehicle type of gameplay but I was wondering because in a Battle Against something like a Gunship you wouldnt be able to do anything I assume.

[@JerDog1984]

The ship looks so badass just hanging there like that!

[@maeror1022]

Bigger ships with beam lasers and dumbfire missile launchers are going to be murderous

[@koriander.k7377]

Oh, i already have a packhound gunship engineered just for this occasion

[@Windrake101]

Don't forget the Enzyme missiles!

[@Mallchad]

How are you gonna get a lock?

[@kyberghost3607]

What if you use mines to make a bomber? Does that work?

[@Mallchad]

@@kyberghost3607 Yes it works, tested yesterday. Shares the same momentum mechanics so its hard to be accurate but it works, and they have a large blast radius like the HE missiles. Point defence will attempt to shoot all of the above out for bases that have them though.

[@samaitcheson7057]

That looks like the most tedious and lacklustre FPS gameplay I think I've ever seen. Literally stand in one place and fire round after round and wait for the explosion. Woeful beyond belief.

[@raveouscarlias4479]

You realize that the ship was a player and a bad one at that right?

[@samaitcheson7057]

@@raveouscarlias4479 Yep

[@raveouscarlias4479]

@@samaitcheson7057 so why are you implying that the Odyssey gameplay is bad when it is actually the players that are recorded that are at fault

[@samaitcheson7057]

@Max Pain Calm down please. I'm not sure you understand what comments are for. I'm expressing an opinion. You and everyone else has the right to disagree just like I have the right to not care about your opinion. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I am expressing my opinion so don't try to make me believe your opinion. If the FPS part of Odyssey showed in in my Steam recommendations I would have no interest in it. It's bad. Poor AI, bullet sponge NPCs, take down a ship with small arms, explosions that look like they're from the original Doom. Compared with the FPS competition, it doesn't come close to anything other than poor. But I have a LEP so I've funded this part of the game so I have a right to an opinion. I will be getting this game because I've already paid for it via my LEP. Will I play it? Absolutely not. Like I said, you have your opinion. I have mine. And BTW I don't play SC

[@raveouscarlias4479]

@@samaitcheson7057 Lol. You're entitled to bad opinions

[@margotrosendorn6371]

What sort of anti-ship or SRV guns will they come up with, I wonder?

[@Monody512]

So a class-2 pulse laser the size of an entire person does about the same amount of damage per shot as… a handheld laser rifle?

[@jasonboughen9542]

I pre built a chieftain with dumbfire missiles and PA’s, mine launchers on the bottom. Ready to rock. 👊🏼

[@GHSTREZ]

The Pilot: 👁👄👁

[@DrHopeMath]

Where would one go to pvp in the alpha? As there are so many sites/

[@Custard_Pie]

0:07 display on the gun is also an fps counter! neat

[@EmeraldDuke]

Finally I've been wondering if anyone would test this

[@apanmarius]

lol wtf.... how come the weapons deal so much dmg to ships???

[@Vlaxie]

Ye lol, ships need a pair of massive guns to bring each others hulls and armors down and then there's 1 little rifle achieving the same thing more or less lol

[@NeoAemaeth]

You can also destroy ships with a few fist hits..

[@Orosian5]

Spacelegs op.

[@birddhunterr]

I wonder what a type 10 with only hellfire middles would look like?

[@augustheat]

ship explodes a few feet away and you take no damage or get thrown back?

[@borisvdb]

I have no idea how a ground based unit would win against big armoured ship like the Cobra III

[@yrneh1974]

Wonderful! If the ship would had turrets or rockets it might have poised more danger. Though never would have guessed that you can take down a shield with a pistol. Anyways good show

[@JayT546]

wait so ships can't lock on to people on foot or is the cobra guy just testing if you can take down a ship?

I stopped playing Elite just before the alpha came out. I feel I need to get into this again for sure, I have no idea what I am even missing out on.

[@SuwinTzi]

It's kinda dumb how a laser pistol can bring down spaceship shields. Maybe if there was heavier weapons itd make more sense.

[@peterfranzi643]

Damn this game will be a BANGER in a year! we need low orbital releasable srv rovers, tanks, gliders

[@kahldris1228]

Tanks of some sort would be interesting... maybe mechs?

[@Myrrhth]

I believe there is a leaked combat SRV, check Yamiks

[@Rossilaz58]

@@kahldris1228 eh

[@tarek42023]

something like a plane drone based thing would be cool tho

[@allsystemsgootechaf9885]

@@tarek42023 we have fighters, maybe it could be one of those?

[@VertietRyper]

Is the foot gameplay good? I'm console side so we don't have any ability to test it.

[@cmdrthreeofnine1006]

It’s a game changers, BUT it still needs some balancing work

[@Shinod]

no decals on ship? no visual damage? explosion did not killed the fps model?

[@epsilonzero6977]

3 days later - 2 Federal Corvettes VS 3000 MEN

[@jmdibonaventuro]

*A10 Warthog BRRRT intensifies*

[@Deadly_Darkness]

so if u want kill human from ship you must use rockets or beam laser

[@CancerArpegius]

Favourite anti personnel ship weapon is flechettes because they have a wide spread and you can control when to let them explode

[@Mithguar]

Just a reminder to everyone. Alpha 2 doesn't have ship engineering so these are ships with more likely then not low grade modules with no resistance. Also you can't lock on small targets with ship weapons so any lock on missiles won't be good for ground targets. As for aiming, gimbal jitter will make it hard to hit small targets with pulse/burst lasers. Beams might still work. Dumbfire missles and multi crew turrets will be the meta for anti ground combat. Cannons with explosive rounds might also be decent.

[@lesliesangster3841]

Would be handy if you could target a specific module on the ship like you can in space.

[@lesliesangster3841]

@Max Pain it’s a game chill out

[@TheBuurPit]

Nicely done!

[@miklyyin4755]

I’m thinking plasma accelerator or fragment canon can do better.

[@Blazestar2000]

My man lol. I saw this on Simbad's server, had to hop over and comment :D Very funny

[@NeoRipshaft]

Not everyone is fit to be a stormtrooper.

[@GnomeKr]

inb4 somebody destroys Anaconda with this little funny pistol thing

[@HallyVee]

So is that gimballed weapons intentionally avoiding ground targets or are even fixed weapons not truly fixed? Or you were just testing ofc.

[@ojassarup258]

Ships can't target on foot players.

[@williamsplays8528]

fixed weapons do have an ever so slight gimble.

[@xenonkay]

You can't lock on to personnel and hovering on a planet isn't 100% stable, so you're stuck firing your weapons fixed forward at a very tiny target while the whole ship wobbling.

[@juanumana5688]

can you eject from a ship in ED?

[@chunkyrabbit1032]

my man was too scared to fight on the ground that he tried to kill a single person with a ship and still failed

[@MarcosSilveira]

Are you playing Rochelle, mother of Chris, with this "My man" line?!?

[@chunkyrabbit1032]

@@MarcosSilveira no

[@drink15]

looks like this was more of a "lets see what happens" type of thing

[@Flourikum]

It's the pts if you play this too seriously and not test stuff out (seeing that you won't be keeping anything) what's the point?

[@Sammie1053]

Cobra pilot is now the pinned comment. He wasn't really trying, he just dropped in like "y'know what, let's see what happens". Since the fixed weapons wouldn't gimbal onto a human target, they had that wide spread between them, and since he didn't have shield/health info for the guy, he assumed he was doing zero damage

[@ntj7973]

Cobra driver might don't know Einstein's saying about insanity.

[@okinawagaijin9344]

Einstein never said that though.

[@ntj7973]

@@okinawagaijin9344 you may be right. After a while of browsing I agree there isn't any proof Einstein said that at all. This seems to be a common misconception :).

[@TimHilll4U]

Awesome.. capture wonder what one of the huge multicannons will do with two other gimbled small ones.

[@TheGriffon1970]

WOW can we get pistols retrofitted to Srv's?

[@pppppffffffmmmmmmmnn]

Whyyyyy do infantry weapons do so much damage against a ship. I feel like the machine hurting the hull that much is like an assault rifle being able to pierce a naval hull or tank chassis.

[@Mithguar]

Stock ships. No engineering in alpha 2 for ships.

[@wilderzimmer720]

A machine gun can very easily hurt the hull of a ship or plane in real life. i don't think it's particularly unrealistic. The CMDR in the Cobra is also plaing it a bit dumb. If they backed up a bit they would be basically immune to the on foot player.

[@pongraczfarkasattila7357]

@@wilderzimmer720 but a tank? I'm quite sure you have to be very luck and shot in is barrel of something to kill it

[@cmdrmaskime]

Nice one ! 🤩

[@cmdrmaskime]

Damn it 3 days later : 52K views here 👌🏽😱

[@madquest8]

Can you jetpack onto it and open the hatch and climb inside?

[@hannybenny7632]

THIS is just YOU !! I learned soo much from you :) :)

[@WELLbethere]

lol those are size 1 pulse lasers, and they rocked your shields with just a graze. Ship weapons are the real deal. I wanna try sweeping across the battlefield with two size 4 beams

[@tomasmicak9041]

Suddenly Type 10 with 8 lasers will become a Death Star

[@koriander.k7377]

@@tomasmicak9041 gonna bring my beamaconda. 6 beam lasers at one go, green.

[@LiveseyMD]

Did you removed shield with a pistol?

[@Lintukori]

I'd like to see if flak launcher does anything to foot soldiers. It would be nice to get a second use case for that hardpoint.

[@moxiemau5980]

Cannon and multicannon didn't work

[@the_wild_hunt1301]

nothing like sitting still. movement is life.

[@psyanide1603]

Ladies and gents: How not to fly CAS xD Going to be different story with a player as gunner using underslung turrets though whilst the pilot orbits the AO and, potentially, strafing enemy positions with dumbfires if not just to soften then up on approach for the gunner.

[@AKAxeMan]

Does that cobra have 1F rated shields?

[@WarriorTech_FTW]

The test I’ve been looking for

[@marcusdeangelis4143]

Oof! Those low-res ship explosions up-close really hurt the eyes.

[@DavidKnowles0]

An that why this took so long, there so much Froniter could get away with when it was just a flight sim but now we can get up close and personal, everything has to be top notch! Somethings like ship explosions will probably wait until sometime after release date through.

[@wiser3754]

Frontier updated the shield effects! About time!

[@ronanbax6102]

Damage models next? One can dream.

[@wiser3754]

@@ronanbax6102 actually they are being implemented. The Yamiks mentioned that in one of his videos.

[@jdl2327]

@@wiser3754 that was an April fools bideo

[@Mallchad]

Not yet. it hurts performance bad and takes a lot pf work

[@robertspicer4448]

Lmao April fools buddy. If frontier removed the FDL i doubt the local players would allow their office to remain.

[@fencer9443]

I wonder if you can carpet bomb stuff in a Type-10 with nothing but mine launchers.

[@moxiemau5980]

Can you lock on foot troops?

[@hightowergaming5301]

Can we get an 'F' in the chat for that Cobra Pilot

[@blise518B]

Interesting that the balance it in a way you can actually touch ships. Not realistic but probably good for gameplay. I’m interested how you would have fared against dumbfire missiles or frag.

[@redrobby9939]

He would not. He would have to take cover then.

[@dsagent]

I wonder about frag cannons. They have to hit something.

[@Acavando]

What happens if he rams you and can you target modules? Like disable his drives :P

[@cmdrthreeofnine1006]

Not sure about the Ram. I can’t see any way to target modules

[@simon-ricardokuhn1713]

This is kinda like a boss fight