I've always been confused as to why any player has any concern about what the club looks like, when the point of playing golf is to move the ball in the direction of the hole with the maximum benefit. What is it that makes a golfer pay more for better looks with reduced results? Blades look great but my results with them are not in line with the price I paid. Game improvement clubs (mine are Wilson Launch Pad 2 clubs with senior graphite shafts) are reducing my handicap each game I play. It's such that several friends have bought the same clubs. So why pay for looks when the real benefit should be function?
@knee14995 ай бұрын
It really depends on the player. Game improvement irons have great left to right dispersion, but generally have poor(er) front to back gaps and are harder to stop on the greens due to lower spin (stronger lofts). "Players" irons are popular among better players and even pros recently because while they indeed not as forgiving, the dispersion is much tighter all around, easier to stop, and you don't get the occasional 10-15 yard fliers.
@simonlebon16535 ай бұрын
Every time I look down at my Mizuno pro’s, I don’t think about my swing, I wonder at their beauty. They’re not just a tool , they are a piece of art, hand forged with every part of the process going through human hands. They are excellent communicators, you always know when you haven’t got the best out of them, but it’s pure silk when you do. Each to their own, but I l’ll take the form of my clubs over the function of yours
@YayaGolf7775 ай бұрын
I’m a 62 year old nine Handicap and can play a lot varied irons. But, I chose the Cleveland Halos, the brand new 2021 model I got brand new and super inexpensive. You can get em for $500 at some U S stores, which in my opinion are way better than the new ones. The 5.5 Cypher shaft is awesome. And there so much fun! Who cares what they look like.
@marcvanderbilt93245 ай бұрын
Looks and style are important for many people. Form and function are 2 separate dimensions.
@tp03765 ай бұрын
Same reasons people buy any product, cars? Clothing?
@jayholiday2563 ай бұрын
I went blended, P 8-pw, XP in 7 then black op hybrids in long irons
@GOLFADDICT6525 күн бұрын
how are you liking your new clubs ? which iron you like best in your combo set and why ? cheers
@garywynne812222 күн бұрын
Irons are awesome, I’m 63, 4 handicap, have just switched to PXG game improvement ?? That’s what we’re all trying to do is it not ??
@hankd70523 ай бұрын
I’m 53 years old and I just played my first 9 holes with my Gen 7 XP irons and all I can say is WOW! First off the misses are INCREDIBLY GOOD! 2nd I just had Gen 6 -P irons and these are much better in every aspect. I’m a 6 handicap and your videos on the Gen 7 prompted me to have a look and all I can say is THANK YOU! Keep up the great reviews! The XP’s might be the absolute best iron I’ve ever played. Feel, forgiveness, distance and they will stop when struck well. I give them 5 ⭐️
@whiteriverangler96705 ай бұрын
I am a 13 handicap and getting lower steadily. I just bought a new set of JPX 923's from mizuno. I had a hard time getting fitted into another set of game improvement irons, especially a full set, however I have a fantastic fitter that said that my number looked fantastic with those irons. I can stop balls almost dead at 180 yards with the 6 iron...why in the world would I want anything else? They talked me out of buying a more "advanced" set and I am so glad they did because why would I need want anything that is even harder to hit?
@ronchappell2165 ай бұрын
I'll leave a comment here because for some reason for the last couple of days my screen only offers a "dislike" thumbs down icon. Weird . . . .. I do want to say that I play Gen3's, which I still love, and my buddy just got the new Gen7's. He hit them for the first time today, and I hit a few with them. These clubs feel so good and fly so well. I do think they're a couple notches above my Gen3's.
@TheAverageGolfer5 ай бұрын
That’s very odd regarding the like button
@BIIIKES5 ай бұрын
The only person that cares what a club looks like is the person hitting them. I'm a 3.7 hdcp according to the USGA and I play Callaway Rogue ST Max OS irons. I love them. I played Tommy Armour 845's for 20+ years prior to JUST upgrading to the Rogues.
@TheAverageGolfer5 ай бұрын
Absolutely
@techclub8528Ай бұрын
I currently have P770 but I’m not good enough for them with the compact head I was thinking of the P790 or the Gen 6 or Gen 7 PXG. Does anyone know if the head size of the P model is similar size to the p790 or p770
@justinstephenson93605 ай бұрын
Andy is definitely hitting the ball well these days. I swing at a similar speed to Andy. For me a carry of 175 yards is just short of my 5i and just a bit too far for my 6i. Looking at the specs for the XP irons I find that the loft of the 7i at 27 degrees is a little weaker than my 5i but stronger than my 6i. Then I looked at the standard length of shaft compared to my irons - again PXG XP irons have longer shafts, the 7i in the XP at 37.5" is the same as the 6i in my set. There is nothing magical about the performance, it is simply a function of the loft of the club head and the length of shaft, but if I get a flight that looks like a 7i in terms of peak height and descent angle a spin rate that sits roughly between my 5i and 6i and that carry then it is good enough for me - and I am someone who prefers control over distance.
@williekelty56015 ай бұрын
I agree, but disagree cause I’m hitting the 7s with the weaker lofts that are equal to my 5s and they are a little further and the misses I hit are way better in the 7s and I was surprised but we got them dialed in and went with a heavier wait at the back. If you hit the Gen 3, 5 and 6s you will see what I mean the Gen 4s I don’t talk about those…🙃
@relentless15 ай бұрын
Andy I really enjoy your videos but I do not understand why lower handicap golfers feel it's necessary to shame those who choose to play game improvement clubs? I don't think you are doing it intentionally but it still comes across that way. I am coming off a 12 year hiatus from playing golf due to 7 major surgeries. I didn't think I would ever be able to play the game again. I don't care what the club looks like and for all I care it can quack like a duck when I hit it as long as I can play the game. Slow play is a big reason more people do not play golf. For God sake more people need to play game improvement clubs to help make the game more enjoyable for everyone.
@scott485 ай бұрын
Combo Set is great. I bag 0311p in my 5-6, 0317cb 7-pw. Perfect best of both worlds 👍🏻
@williekelty56015 ай бұрын
I have the Gen5s in the P the Black Label Elite’s and love them this would be my 3rd year playing them, but I skipped on the 6s, but hit them and they were as in feel a little better than the 5s but I was in Atlanta at the store and was looking for the 7 and was told not yet and they won’t put them out till they know they are a better club than the 6…we I got a shirt and ordered the Closer II with the special shaft and love it…putting for Dough ⛳️ Now back to the Gen7s…when they dropped I got the Heroes email and was on it…we got my specs but we decided to go XP this time but with weaker lofts to equate to the Ps Now I’m a decent striker of the ball but in my late 50s wanted more forgiveness and the ball speed with the same performance I have in the 5’s So we got them dialed in with my options and the swing weight was key… I got them last Saturday and Whoa 😳 I don’t know how they did it but my miss hits feel like the 3s felt flush and that iron was the best they made until the 5s to me and you can’t even tell by looking at the ball fight, but you can feel it as I’m glad I can but my misses are fewer now because of the slightly bigger footprint which you really can’t see as with offset it is there as you setup to the ball, but again doesn’t put me off… I got 5-W and I’m very impressed and was hoping I wouldn’t be disappointed…I MADE THE RIGHT DECISION!!! Give then a try…I can also work the ball better which is interesting cause I wasn’t expecting that and my Son was with my the first time I hit them on the range and was Dad…those are 🔥!!! Your hitting them Long, Highr at the flags and they sound 🤌🏾 Give them a 👀, I’m an avg golfer as well…⛳️ I love this channel the insight I get is how I play golf… Now I got mine before watching this content, but would be getting them now if I hadn’t based on what I saw and heard. They are again 🔥
@JimGrove-r4c2 ай бұрын
You playing graphite or steel?
@blackheart78865 ай бұрын
It may just be me, but I've always hated the looks of PXG irons.
@HoneyTitan5 ай бұрын
Trypophobia kicks in
@richardcaponetti58275 ай бұрын
They look like plumbing tools to me.
@HoneyTitan5 ай бұрын
@@richardcaponetti5827 some forged wrench 🤪
@williekelty56015 ай бұрын
@@blackheart7886 these are the cleaned to me…kinda like P790s with the PXG weight, but these sound and feel way better! I was a P790 guy before PXG and gamed both them and the Gen3’s then sold the P790s and got Gen5s and now the Gen7s and will sell or trade the 5s now… It’s a personal thing for us all…⛳️
@markeister85184 ай бұрын
Get by the look and try them with a fitter, you will be amazed. The feel and results may get you past looks!
@87toyhighlux4 ай бұрын
I am glad you like them, I have the Gen 5 and they are nice clubs, but I wouldn’t buy another PXG because of my fitting
@2bNIKEt15 ай бұрын
I think more people should play these. And even if you play a forged cavity more traditional design, the longer irons like 4 and 5 should be swapped out for a players distance iron. Just pay attention to lofts. I play two 5 irons right now but my players distance 5 nearly identical loft to my set 4i (.5 degree weaker than the 4i)
@wkndwarrior47334 ай бұрын
So you took issue with the Mizuno Hot Metal Pro saying you just don’t understand who would play it. 7 iron at 28.5 degrees. But somehow these are different at 27 degrees. Thanks for the apology. The PXGs at $1600. The 923s were $963. The PXGs have upcharges on shafts and grips. All free on Mizuno! Hot metal is the best value in big brand golf. Expecting your thoughts on the 925s shortly
@TheAverageGolfer4 ай бұрын
@@wkndwarrior4733 except that’s not what I said, go back, watch again and listen carefully 👍
@TheAverageGolfer4 ай бұрын
What seems to be way over you head is the point I made is that it was very strange for a ‘pro’ iron to be the stronger lofted iron within a range which is reflected in this line up from PXG, the ‘players’ model is weaker than the GI iron 👍 so take your passive aggression and shove it 👍
@TheAverageGolfer4 ай бұрын
Expecting your apology shortly
@EdwardBailey5 ай бұрын
Priced way too high for my blood. I still love my Golfworks TS-3 forged cavity back irons with Rapport graphite shafts.
@TheAverageGolfer5 ай бұрын
Fair point Edward 👍
@brendonchilders30635 ай бұрын
I'm between the TS3 or the TS4 Maltbys. I really like the tech in both models.
@johnkokott85705 ай бұрын
Plus, full set of 8 irons, 4-gap, will only cost $600 for TS3. Been thinking about buying them to try. Fully forged, 8 irons, built to your specifications, is very hard to beat these days.
@DonAl91145 ай бұрын
Hello Andy , I bought P DHY as 4 iron some weeks ago and I really enjoy it.
@TheAverageGolfer5 ай бұрын
Yes this is very much like a driving iron
@charlesrohl76354 ай бұрын
The new Gen 7's and the black ops irons look amazing !
@TheAverageGolfer4 ай бұрын
Black ops review coming soon
@aspencer095 ай бұрын
Great stuff. I will be heading for a Gen 7 fitting soon, love PXG brand so far in my experience. Really keen on a combo set of P and XP, only worry is the blend when switching between 6 & 7
@TheAverageGolfer5 ай бұрын
Yeah I would like to see my numbers with 5,6,7 with both P and XP, might do a video
@aspencer095 ай бұрын
@@TheAverageGolfer yeah deff do a video 👍🏻 I’m thinking 4-6 XP and 7-W P. Would be perfect if don’t need to mess around with loft bending etc 🤞🏻
@Angrypanda685 ай бұрын
Had a fitting yesterday at the PXG store in South London , I was looking at something similar in a blended set , after hitting a lot of different shaft and headweight combos went for a set of Xps....if you want to do a blended set I was advised to strengthen the P by a degree and weaken the Xp a degree to even the set out. Cannot fault the PXG fitting it was superb and next to me was Ant Middleton getting fitted as well 😂@aspencer09
@TheAverageGolfer5 ай бұрын
@@Angrypanda68 the idea of a full set of XPs is certainly appealing as I mention in the video
@Angrypanda685 ай бұрын
@@aspencer09 Got fitted with the intention of a blended set love the feel of both irons but ended up with a full set of XP and a Black ops 3 hybrid. Attention to detail of the PXG fitters is unreal so good
@samuelcollie20505 ай бұрын
I want to try the XP's. I have Sub70 699 irons but I am looking to update as my swing speed in the last 5 years has reduced considerably. I believe that there is a fitting studio in our area that carries PXG irons.
@TheAverageGolfer5 ай бұрын
Be interested to know how you get on
@seansack6094 ай бұрын
Great work Andy! I wonder if PXG will bring out another Driving Iron given that this Gen 7 4Iron seems to "tick all the boxes" a comparison would be very interesting.
@TheAverageGolfer4 ай бұрын
That’s a very good point
@xrpb11a5 ай бұрын
wow. I escaped satellite TV and signed up for youtube to escape the commercials. And then I get this video laced with them. I liked your driver video 12 inches back 3 inches in, but I gotta bail on your channel. The commercials are a game changer.
@Adam-xs4eo5 ай бұрын
I'm sure he doesn't give a fuck
@pomx29005 ай бұрын
Pay for Premium, sorted.
@3piecespicygolf4 ай бұрын
Bro you can hit the 10-15 second fast forward button a few times. You expect these people to build their channels and not accept a sponsorship or 2 to recoup some of the time and money they have put into it?
@Adam-xs4eo4 ай бұрын
@@3piecespicygolf you put too much faith in dummies on the internet. That makes way too much sense
@markhilton49205 ай бұрын
Looks a cracking club and think pxg would fit perfectly but think at the price it’s going to put a lot of golfers of
@abstractavltd.95715 ай бұрын
All the specs are the same as gen6 so size wise are they not the same as the gen 6? Your making it sound like there alot smaller??
@rugerdavidson69365 ай бұрын
Andy, you can tell just how excited about these clubs. It’s completely ok that you like product you review. I really enjoy your channel and watch frequently if not daily. Keep up the great work my friend and trust me some of us understand it’s a passion and a job. Both have costs associated with them. Top Notch
@TheAverageGolfer5 ай бұрын
Nice comment Ruger and some understanding
@randallpennington59765 ай бұрын
I feel PXG might be one of the most innovative golf companies! I wonder if with the weight port in the back these would be a good option for one length clubs? I have never played one length but as I get into my mid 50’s bending over less sounds better! 😀
@TheAverageGolfer5 ай бұрын
I would certainly try the option
@seanpeacock55955 ай бұрын
When the brand, type or number of the club goes on the scorecard Then it’ll be major importance
@TheAverageGolfer5 ай бұрын
How would that make it important 🤷♂️😂
@hellhound592 ай бұрын
Nice vid. Have purchased some Pxg but think they are pricey. Nice fitting experience though.
@donsmnc53195 ай бұрын
Most who think of themselves as better players most of the time lean towards blades and frown on game improvement clubs, it’s a status symbol belief that holds a lot players back, performance is what matters more than anything else but a definite minority know and will actually play them
@TheAverageGolfer5 ай бұрын
I disagree on the status symbol comment, I’ve played golf for 35 years and for most of that time played a blade like iron, changing to something that seems almost twice the size takes a lot of getting used to, and I for one do not frown on any clubs
@donsmnc53195 ай бұрын
@@TheAverageGolfer you may not but I know plenty of better players who do
@briantreadwell22064 ай бұрын
I had PXG a while ago through the bag - nothing wrong with them, I just moved on
@russellmills20445 ай бұрын
Couldn’t play PXG, purely based on the fact Patrick Reed uses them.
@TheAverageGolfer5 ай бұрын
Except he doesn’t 😂 get up to speed bud 👍
@russellmills20445 ай бұрын
@@TheAverageGolfer 🤣. Fair enough. They probably dumped him. Still ugly looking things though (imo). Not all bad though Andy, I did compliment you on how smart you always look.
@TheAverageGolfer5 ай бұрын
@@russellmills2044 not sure what happened tbh, gone for a smarter Peter Millar look 😂
@johntinkler67185 ай бұрын
Nice to see you've moved up-market and into some grown-up Peter Millar gear, Andy - Not your occasionally off-beat ensembles (Remember the Adidas camo sweater??? 🤭) - Are you trying to appeal to the more discerning average golfer these days Andy??
@donkee95 ай бұрын
I’d say Andy has been the best dressed KZbin golfer for some time
@russellmills20445 ай бұрын
Agreed, he always looks smart. I like the PM look. Classy without tons of garish logos.
@arthurhunt17965 ай бұрын
The new Black Ops irons?
@TheAverageGolfer5 ай бұрын
Coming next week
@paulburton2105 ай бұрын
Absolute joke as a price Wait 6 months buy second had 1/4 of the price
@TheAverageGolfer5 ай бұрын
Make sure you share the 75% discount code with your fellow golfers 👍
@cjf73645 ай бұрын
Gen 6 with black and brushed metal. Love the irons and the handicap is coming in the right direction. However, the paint has worn away on the PW after only 3 months and PXG are not will to replace this or fix. For this, I’d be unlikely to go with PXG again.
@demsareunamerican68004 ай бұрын
You mean the paint that's for the letter W? If that's your only issue, for not going back to PXG, you have serious Mental problems over paint. PXG will fix a defective club no problem paint isn't considered defective club.. Seem you're hitting down a lot where the W is. I've had PXG since 2016, and I have never had a problem with the paint. Go get paint for letters and do it yourself.