Pyro SINKS HIS TEETH Into the VIPER JOB REVEAL And Dawntrail Extended Teaser!

[@Ascapelios]

It's good to see you putting the drama behind you and just enjoying yourself

[@jeffreyavalos782]

They called me mad when I said that it was a second sword back at the NA fanfest. I will say, the connecting of them into a glaive was not expected though, lol

[@yyZiggurat]

My attempts at spreading a rumor that it was WoL as PLD but the dummy forgot his shield didn't take.

[@brianbogholtz9485]

While no one could have predicted Viper specifically, it seemed very obvious to me that it had to be a scouting geared melee even before NA Fanfest.

[@iResonate]

I predicted the Zidane style a long time ago, but didn't think they'd actually do it lmao

[@Arksimon2k]

In FF9 Zidane uses similar combined weapons, and there's one in particular called Rune Tooth, which has an A.K.A of 'The Viper'. Might just be a coincidence though, as I believe this job was thought up to go with the Dawntrail theme.

[@raisylvaine8398]

I think another reasoning you could give for Viper’s name is where it comes from. The area is heavily based on South America, a very tribal place at the time period this is kinda based around. I could see them naming it after an animal that inspired their combat style: swift motions to disorient before striking hard.

[@DemariWynter]

Oldest viper fossils are from the lower Miocene, but molecular phylogenies suggest an older origin for Viperidae, dating back to the early Eocene. Vipers originated in the Old World with pitvipers later invading the New World and rapidly spreading throughout North, Central and South America. - googled origin, seems like invaders of the new world is a good reason to name the job Viper lol

[@brianreck5971]

What are we gonna do while waiting for Dawntrail? Same thing we always do: farm glams.

[@SuperRamos619]

PvP for me lol. End 9f expansion tradition.

[@Furska.]

or like yoshiP intended, play other games/do whatever else we want :D

[@seanbaxter3388]

I have to disagree about it being an "easy" job. If it's anything like Ninja it's going to be fairly complex. Not to mention the stance switching could lend itself to come degree of complexity.

[@phatymcdaddy]

If it's burst is designed around the 2 min meta there will be no complexity

[@Aventurine4lyfe]

Devs already said vioer would be a significantly more technical class.

[@teemopanda02]

They also always say they're introducing challenging new dungeons every expansion. Until we actually see the job, we can't take their word for it as anything other than PR speak.

[@Hawkenwhacker]

@@teemopanda02 Using dungeons to justify an argument about how well a job plays as merely PR speak is not a great way to make a compelling argument, especially when that foundation is built on shaky ground. History would like a word with you, if you're willing to learn and listen.

[@teemopanda02]

@@Hawkenwhacker I'm not referring to criterion dungeons, which is likely your counter argument. Throughout all expansions they've been referring to regular MSQ dungeons as "challenging dungeons" when they've never been that way. I'm not saying the job can't be technical, but anything said during promotional activities like fanfest have to be taken as simply that, promotion. Until we actually get our hands on the content, it's impossible to determine the truth of it. Also, I've engaged with the game since it's 1.0 era, and even the FF11 era, so I'm fully aware of the game's full history.

[@berrytimee]

Lmao he edited out his initial first reaction

[@RockR277]

How was it different?

[@berrytimee]

@@RockR277 he was irritated before starting the stream and chat made it worse somehow??? So he was just yelling at chat💀he ended the stream right after the viper stuff

[@RockR277]

@@berrytimee Damn

[@wafflezorz1]

"you can do dope shit with snakes" was so funny to me lol

[@25xxfrostxx]

The special site posting of the video is in full 1080p and looks a lot better, though even then, KZbin destroys the bitrate and it still looks fuzzy. I'm fine with the job so far. They showed like 4 button presses out of probably 20 possible options so it's impossible to tell much but I'm leaning toward a builder/spender like a wow sword rogue. Possibly with a "poison" dot ability. Looks ok but I won't main it either way.

[@calvinconnor5751]

koji was walking round the floor meeting randoms , i was lucky to win a meet and greet with him , such a nice dude!

[@x108a1]

I mean it’s been nearly 5 years since the last in person fanfest. And even back then the game was growing in popularity. But it more than exploded by the return of in person events so yes they have work to do for the events. And I’m sure they will do better. It’s a live and learn type of thing

[@Hawkenwhacker]

Ironically enough, that is something Pyro, himself, has yet to fully learn and embrace. It's easier to explode than it is to concentrate the flames.

[@Kaoru_Kensaki]

"Waiting on Dawntrail is like a Savage Mechanic" That one got me laughing so hard xDD

[@amediocremenace]

In Mother Russia, Viper job sinks its teeth into you.

[@Kotosanji]

ExCel centre is pretty big but not sure if the stage rooms are that big?

[@andrewclear8905]

You can’t point out what you like and don’t like about a job before it launches in FFXIV, because no one gets their hands on it until the media tour.

[@Hawkenwhacker]

Why not? Making premature judgments is easier.

[@andrewclear8905]

@@Hawkenwhacker true, but is also ignorant.

[@SoulWhiteAngel]

The twin bladed sword is so nice. Zidane refrence from ff9? Also i feel like even if people wanted a new dual wielder, this is good to keep it different

[@iResonate]

Pyro: Viper is a stupid ass name Me, whose character's name is Viper: 👀🙈

[@BorgWolf359]

I will be playing all of the other games in my PC/Xbox list! Stoked for Viper & the other magic dps shown in January 2024! I will play Viper & the other job just like I did for all of the other new jobs when they came out in their expansions! Hoping for Geomancer Magic DPS & then Beast Master Limited Job!

[@nathanprime2434]

FINALLY! I've been waiting!

[@SilentOcalypz]

This is coming from their popup livestream equipment at the theater or w/e, jumping on the streaming quality is a little nit picky imo. Especially when they dropped the reveal trailer on youtube at the same time where you could get the non-live streamed quality.

[@scubarubanzaii]

*STAND AND LET THING RESOLVE*

[@clearcat7296]

Unless I missed a panel where they showed more gameplay of the job in action, all we got was a simple trailer with a 1-2-3 type action with a couple cool abilities to give us a taste, I dont feel I have enough information to judge if its good or bad (I ancticipate the jobs trailer and the press things they do) My inital impressions about something have been wrong before is all Im saying.

[@CianaCorto]

This guy's takes are fucking unhinged. Holy shit I thought he was kidding.

[@balazsszucs7055]

She has two gigantic.....knives.

[@hamiltony101]

I think it's pretty cool that they make new jobs easy, it shouldn't be something to look down on. It's a cool new starting point that'll expand. There are like 30 jobs, the variety is already there. I'm not much of a raider so just having bad ass looking jobs is exciting to me and the majority of people. Just excited to go through MSQ with a cool thematic job tbh

[@doomdeathxx]

Is it tho? Its for lvl 80 we need difficulty scaling up, you cant be serious to wait for a lvl 80 base level class to get easier, i'll fall asleep playing all these 80 levels to get something even easier

[@RED_Theory038]

It's not that they're easy. It's that it lacks complexity if reaper and gunbreaker are anything to go by. Doesn't have to be on the level of monks or black mages, but playing those two newer classes felt underwhelming like they're missing something more to their kits or mechanics.

[@DICEBOY22]

I wish they would do Fan Fest in Orlando FL. I dont want to travel to Vegas ever.

[@JustinK0]

if someone is playing a "hard" job it literally means nothing and i still expect just as much as if they were playing an "easy" job. Engaging content coming from the fights themselves is a lot better than playing a "hard" job.

[@MrBCWalker01]

Re: Job Video Dual-Wield: 1-2-3 single target. 2H: 1-2 AOE. Boost: 2 minute window buff or similar Big Cooldown. Re: New Limited Job I'm on the Beast Master train; I saw the NPCs in Bozja/Zadnor/etc. and I want that for myself. Re: Caster Job I have no idea, and given that the melee Job is not openly based on a previous FF Job I would not be surprised to see the Caster would be the same.

[@taco_sensei]

But just like in Endwalker, they had one classic ff job reworked (Sage), and a ffxiv original (Reaper). So my guess is that the caster is a classic job, like Green Mage or Pictomancer

[@KironX1]

On the topic of Viper being dumbed down and easy, they said in the keynote that Viper is a technically challenging job...so make of that what you will. Also why is Pyro so negative about everything...he's judging before it's even out, I thought he was being better than this.

[@Pyromancer]

Yeah god forbid I give my honest opinion about something lol. I'm negative about it because I don't think it looks cool. Like I said in the video lol.

[@KironX1]

@@Pyromancer alright then…sorry.

[@Hawkenwhacker]

@KironX1 Why apologize for stating your observation? In all fairness, judging something based on how it looks is more emotional than logical. Here is a parallel example: *That person looks stupid. I don't like them. Why should I know them when I can judge them? Saying not to do that is the easy answer.* _It's better to be proactive and point out what you do and don't like about them before they suck._ It's an unintelligent opinion: *_style over substance._* I'll give credit where credit is due, however. Pyro is not only loud and proud, but appears to take ownership of his ignorance. Whether that is true or not is another matter.

[@gui_s_carvalho]

Maaaaaan what a fine mustache you have there, dammn looking good!

[@ObsidianCrane]

I think putting any expectations on the job about VFX or anything is setting yourself up for disappointment. Your rebuttal of the "wait and see" approach would be a fair rebuttal if there was enough information to go on about the job to do more than "wait and see" or there was a public beta testing stage of release for FFXIV. Given we have neither of those the only real option is "wait and see", and it has the benefit of not getting yourself in a mindset about what the job should do - which is the root of most disapointment.

[@PianoMatn]

Do you think the Boss the WoL is fighting was a hint for the job? It weilds two swords too... 🤔

[@pertown]

Could have been, beat two swords with two swords. Fight fire with fire and all that

[@Cynicz13]

I can't see anything but a Witcher class with Viper lol.

[@nathanprime2434]

The "Viper" could finally be a return of a DoT class and I think a class dedicated to it would be so CHOICE! Though I don't remember if the powers that be have said if they do or do not have the intention of re-introducing DOT classes

[@Daccura]

I hope not, I pray even that it's not a dot job.

[@Krescentwolf]

It's doubtful. The way they word Vipers description... its going to be a fast (twin swords mode) job with a heavy hitting (Dual-blade mode) phase.

[@RockR277]

Much as I'd like that, I find the prospect unlikely.

[@JP11999]

You can see in the short teaser one of its attacks puts a debuff on the morbol so there's a chance it's a DoT. Purple cloud is the debuff effect

[@blanahaha]

I hope so because I really enjoyed dot summoner back in the day.

[@krekkaking]

Maybe we can recommend kansas city for fan fest?

[@Zaque-TV]

That glaive spin is probably a line aoe

[@MapleLunii]

4:04 lmfaooo

[@silmehellendil9160]

Witcher of the viper school ^^

[@iResonate]

Also, people keep huffing the copium when they say it could be DoT heavy. None of the abilities they showed put a DoT on the morbol. None. 💀

[@Akinon93]

the thing with easier jobs, is it allows them to make more mechanically complex raids and encounters. they exchanged rotation complexity for encounter complexity. of course, I'd still like to see some jobs being more difficult, imo all 3 of the casters currently are easy (I was a BLM main and it really wasn't that hard, just a little bit of thinking ahead and not wasting triplecast). would be nice to have the option of having one that's more rotationally complex.

[@RockR277]

Viper looks dope to me. Really hope it (and reworks for some other jobs) are more complex than what we have now. Tbh just wind SMN back to ShB and I'd be happy (massive cope). Far as the reveal trailer, it falls in line with every job trailer for the last few expacs. They only ever show a few skills. Less angle shifting, which makes it less dynamic but helps visual clarity imo. They said players wanted another dual wield job. Personally, I'd have liked axes, but people love them their swords. If the target demo is happy, I'm happy. I've heard the name Viper might be a nod to Mesoamerican culture, since it's from Tural. Something about reverence for animal spirits and naming strong warriors after animals, but I don't completely remember.

[@Hawkenwhacker]

Copium is a potent drug of choice. Personally, I hated not having my abilities register due to a moving summon.

[@RockR277]

@@Hawkenwhacker Yeah I complained about that too. But pet abilities work much better now. It's really everything else that I miss.

[@sasakijung]

Waiting for next expansion to launch is most hardest mechanic of FF14.

[@Mystra]

So this is officially the Randy Orton job lol.. im sorry I had to xD

[@ShiroNekoDen]

I kinda wanna see pyro crossplay as hydaelyn form venat XD

[@SRG6214]

I think "Hunter" would be a good name for the job, since it's a scouting job. HTR or HNR, and it even says, correct me if im wrong, in the lore that they use the memories of "ancient hunters" through the soul crystal and gain their abilities. So i think it makes sense to name it that way.

[@RockR277]

I think most people would expect a hunter to use a bow though. I know hunters and rangers are also typically skilled in melee weapons, but the most common conception would be a bow user.

[@SRG6214]

Yeah i thought that too. How about...Assassin? Hahaha lol okay that's way too obvious cause the garb looks like Assassins Creed

[@RockR277]

@@SRG6214 Yeah that works. But honestly, I'm sure it's a lore reason to be called viper. I don't see what the big deal is.

[@SRG6214]

@@RockR277 Its not a big deal, I'm just thinking what other name they could give the class. The name Viper is cool don't get me wrong, I know the class has something to do with the name lore wise, well see in the future, but it kinda feels...I don't know...mid?

[@zofotoziggy]

Hell, they could reuse the animation from Ranjit's snake for something with Viper

[@IKIGAIofficial]

I was so hyped to be darth maul with some glowy red weapons… then i was flaccid with the realization that those characters will be everywhere like the catgirl clones in limsa.

[@Hawkenwhacker]

You came to this realization now despite this being what happens with every new job? Hmm. If this is your first rodeo with the new job cycle, however, then it's understandable.

[@taco_sensei]

EU has legislation to protect the rights of disabled people and accessibility for events and conventions. Of course London fanfest was better than NA one lol

[@doomdeathxx]

Game have been receiving huge difficulty criticism, wouldn't make sense they make something that starts at lvl 80 to be easy, wouldn't make sense that something caller VIPER would be easy, it would be dumb af.

[@2ndPlacePrize]

What in God's name is this man saying... FF14 doesn't have a beta or hasn't since ARR. We have never tested anything beyond that. I just get some lost listening to Pyro sometimes, lol.

[@Hawkenwhacker]

Pyro speaks before he thinks. It's easy to get lost when there is nothing there.

[@JacobDonut6378]

I feel like the reason why the name "Viper" is not that impressive is because its so original that we do not have any references to base our game/role fantasy on. If you strike a conversation with someone who doesn't play your game about your main, Ninja for example or Warrior would strike up a lot of ideas but Viper? You would need to explain the mechanics and with that alone, does not make a lot of impression. I love the look of the job dont get me wrong but that name is not one I would proudly see my fantasy self going for.

[@OtomostheCrazy]

Love the new class being like Zidane from FF9

[@chaseth3fruit]

On the topic of NA fanfest, I 100% of the mind that EU fanfest was better, I remember almost full on passing out at least 2 separate occasions due to the heat and lack of water, and the whole vegas staff portion of the event were old angry farts in suits that were sticklers for all the wrong reasons. And the lack of chairs, I had to either lean against the wall or sit on concrete floor like Pyro said, and with back problems it made it hurt incredibly, but the adrenaline was keeping me going

[@Chaerith_Gamesborough]

I just don’t think Viper is a fitting name for the job. It looks cool though.

[@Mike_Requiem]

Wild theory on the next job, what if it's a druid like job. It has green theme, druid transforms into animal (it's almost like a mutation aka TMNT). They been messing around with characters changing appearance, we have reaper with avatar change, we become Phoenix as the mount, and the 16 collaboration will have Clive transforming. Lastly it fit theme of mesoamerican, they have lore of people shape shifting into animals.

[@phatymcdaddy]

Sadly it looks like its gonna be a reskined reaper gameplay wise with a zidane theme. Looks like im still maining black mage

[@lovelydumpling]

skipping the cool yoshida entrance smh

[@imaran1303]

Just my two cents, but I think one cannot really judge a class off of like... 5 abilities. And the other part is that classes are highly subjective. I think Paladin is boring, but there are plenty Paladin mains who like it. Same with any class really, some people say that Viper isn't flashy enough when I think that I like it's more simplistic way, I like seeing my character do cool shit rather then be blinded by particle effects and Black Mages and Red Mages will disagree and that is fine. So not only is liking the Viper job gonna be subjective as it is with any class, we cannot really tell how it will play until it is out, because even the short teaser isn't going to give us everything.