Q&A Episode - Learning from Not Doing the Program | Starting Strength Radio #33

[@michaelroberts9427]

~38:30 "Anything you can do for 124 reps is not really the type of load that would cause a strength adaptation to take place. If it's light enough to do 124 with, honey, it's not heavy enough to make you any stronger. This is the same thing as doing 100 air squats. 100 air squats makes you sore and that's all; that's all it does. You don't get stronger doing air squats. You get stronger by doing set of 5 with 5 more pounds than you lifted last time. That's how you get stronger. Nothing else is going to make you stronger. 124 reps of anything is not going to make you stronger any more than running 5 miles is going to make you stronger." So many people need to hear this!

[@scottstockert4627]

When you pull #500 off the floor, the muscles that control your eyelids are engaged

[@danielklinglesmithv2732]

Scott Stockert because I wink at my self in the mirror every rep, alternating starting with left eye first on day a and right eye first on day b

[@MichaelWarrenPerform]

500 didn't make my eyes even blink when I was 25 but I'll be damned if both my eyelids don't just about turn inside out when I deadlift 500 now

[@joshuatate5671]

I've had back pain since I was 12 years old, honestly. The difference now is that when my back is hurting and it's squat day, I go squat, I don't baby it. Squatting 375 doesn't make it worse, and most of the time makes it better. You can either have a weak back that hurts, or a strong back that hurts. Go squat, it will probably change your life in a major way for the better.

[@ggrthemostgodless8713]

Have the same situation... and I chose a strong, OCCASIONALLY, hurting back.

[@joshuatate5671]

Yes. And mine doesn't hurt all the time, right now it happens to be fine.

[@jamie.777]

Try that as a manual laborer, u will get different results 😂

[@florianarnusch5528]

That was some serious "tough love" towards the newbie guy who exposed himself by listing his stats and finally found that he could stick to lifting weights, and felt good about himself. I hope you didn't completely turn him off the gym. While I realize that he did some silly shit (yup), being consistent and motivated is a huge factor of training as well. Good luck to you, random 79 kilo dude off the internet! You can do it (stick to the program, though)!

[@falair88]

Not really, he’s wasting everyone’s time when it clearly says 2.5kg jumps every workout till you can’t anymore. As someone’s who has done it it works pretty damn well 😤

[@Zeldus123]

Yeah I felt the same. I didn’t just start doing everything perfectly

[@invisiblesurge44]

Which book was riptoe referencing ? When he says blue book.

[@wreagfe]

@@invisiblesurge44 starting strength?

[@wreagfe]

@@invisiblesurge44 he means starting strength the book. It was a book before it became this sexy podcast you know. 😋

[@piolovespunk182]

I clicked on this video to see Rip cuddle a puppy. Not in video. WTF bro.

[@mayking8]

Yeah, I want to see Rip holding a puppy!

[@newerest1]

I laughed out loud at "if your surgeon needs a new pair of golf clubs..."

[@Fortress333]

Hi Rip, can you share some more stories about Bill Starr? I really like his articles that can be found online. Thanks.

[@billaros1000]

Squat plugs are very useful for those cases you can feel something coming but can't quite get it out and you don't want to interrupt the squatting session

[@DanteLikesRock]

XD

[@joshuatate5671]

You should go on Joe Rogan's podcast.

[@ggrthemostgodless8713]

Or Joe will never stop calling. ---LOL

[@dakotagower86]

Do what ya want man but I really would love it

[@bool2max]

I would pay for that

[@haczabim]

@@bool2max Are you sure? Joe's expensive. And Rip doesn't come in cheap either

[@Crickfityash]

😂

[@Mojo-pl3oj]

So if active recovery isn’t good are you wasting your time with sled drags, box jumps or farmers Carry’s on off days?

[@Ondrej.U]

20 kg on BP in 2 months (at least 24 workouts, 12 BP workouts) = increments of 1.66 kg per workout. 40 kg on SQ in 2 months (24 SQ workouts) = increments of 1.66 kg per workout. Haven't seen 1.66 kg plates yet, but this guy is definitely big fan of those. YNDTP

[@msn769]

The fact that he mentioned skipping exercises probably means he did, which would throw your math off.

[@jomercerlmt5727]

In the forum the guy later adds that he trains only 2x/week. So, along with missing sessions, who knows what he was adding each session.

[@waltersobchak6546]

9:55 and still no puppy. Clickbait thumbnail?

[@kalruggs1719]

Rip looks like he only eats large curd cottage cheese.

[@robertlevy4613]

Kalen Ruggiero this guy is trying to get on the next ‘Comments from the haters’

[@teamgitusome]

large curd only baby

[@finalcam1740]

Great source of nutrients

[@bigmike5785]

Small curd is for swimmers and ballerinas.

[@jomercerlmt5727]

@@bigmike5785 Small curd cottage cheese is just lumpy ricotta.

[@Whyiadda]

“Actively recovering does not make you recover faster than not doing anything.. rest, take a nap, have a half liter of bourbon and some cheerios... watch a good movie..” 😜

[@mrbouncelol]

Interesting how Ripp presents his opinion as fact here. Some legitimate training methods incorporate active recovery techniques. But yes for a beginner who is doing SS it is likely counterproductive

[@xxpewdiepiexx2faded]

@@mrbouncelol second workout of the traditional 3 day TM split is literally a recovery day - rip doesnt think its useless or dumb just unneccessary for a guy in that stage of his lifting career

[@mrbouncelol]

@@xxpewdiepiexx2faded I agree that TM's 2nd day is designed as a recovery day, and it's a damn good program, however I am only commenting on what Rip suggests here, which is that recovery work isn't useful. If this is a podcast for beginners only I understand

[@taylorvanamburgh4840]

bought two Big Macs this evening and ate them both.

[@its_james_fitness]

K but did you keep on the gherkins?

[@newerest1]

tbh rip looks pretty good for 63

[@soundwavepiano8853]

He's more American than a bald eagle shooting a Henry rifle off of a Harley.

[@polpot7035]

My tee tee has a first name, its R-I-P-P-Y

[@jabberwock14]

We need an episode of Rip telling stories of his experiences from lifting.

[@thehightide2559]

4:10 hahaha! Tears from my eyes, you're the best Ripp

[@DerekFrohlich]

Client - How do I recover faster? Me - Watch Casino Royal.

[@BryonLape]

When I was in my 20's, I was 6'5" and 175 pounds when I started to lift weights on a regular basis. I put on 20 pounds in two months.

[@jerrythomas4457]

That’s precious

[@sidhu139]

when i was 36, i was 5'10" and 285 pounds when I started to lift weights on a regular basis. I put on 200 pounds in two hours.

[@Chukijay]

The next app should be a soundboard of “Rip-isms”

[@Steve-tl5ii]

*snort*

[@jainapeksh]

You cannot relax any muscle if you are lifting 500 lbs off the ground, even if you wanted to. 😂 Had me there!

[@gregorymccoy6797]

Good episode. I thought this was very productive. I did not expect you to endorse TRT, however. My big fear is once you're on it, you are on it forever and it ain't cheap. I also have "heard" the effects taper off fast.

[@sydneybird116]

I started TRT about 7 years ago when I tested around 120 when I was 52 years old. Creams and lotions did not get my numbers up; waste of time and messy. Once a week self injections into the thigh worked and now my numbers are 500-600 range. Really helps with mood for the first 6 months until you get used to the good mood and you want more, so that feels like the effect tapers off. It is just getting you back to "normal". One side effect is that you may need to give blood donations every two months to keep your blood cell count below max, but that is good for society. It is still intimidating to see all the lean hard bodies at the donation center doing the same thing, because I'm not. TRT is no substitute for training, just makes you feel better so that you do train. Another side effect may be intense nightly woodies. If you are already low test, then it is a life long treatment. Also, over time your gonads stop making the little it did make to begin with since you are taking over the supply with the TRT. May not be reversible if you stopped TRT. Syringes are $1 each and my 10 week supply of TRT is $20 copay insurance.

[@ohmytoshi]

Learning from Not Doing the Program sounds like what I've learned from CrossFit!!

[@newerest1]

eventually people will know starting strength and rip from the podcast and from the forums for years before saying "there's a book?" i think in 2019 we are already there but atleast people know of the book and that they didn't read it

[@Blind0062]

"Every man should be able to overhead press his significant other" ... God help me! My wife is 6' and 175lbs!

[@matthewrogers55]

Hell yeah, get to work!

[@scottmoyer3854]

Start with a 15lb bar, and add 5 pounds per workout. You'll get there..

[@ggrthemostgodless8713]

Star with a another lighter woman, and I bet your wife will tell you she doesn't mind after all if you can't lift her. ----LOL

[@Mateo-et3wl]

175 is very doable on SS.

[@Blind0062]

@@Mateo-et3wl Maybe.

[@Account2129]

59:17 Diabetus

[@georgetubb9124]

Hawk eye there lol

[@waltersobchak6546]

01:15 still no puppy. It is clickbait.

[@DanteLikesRock]

40:55 is trt dangerous? 51:20 training grip

[@newerest1]

I can understand the point of active recovery or light days just so you can stay active, but I wouldn't think of them to help the heavy lifting days. The only reason I would consider them is just to stay active, have the mental strength to be sore and still go on a 2 mile jog the day after squatting, etc that kind of thing. .....but BIG LOL at "this guy has been working out 2 months and needs active recovery"

[@laurenlee961]

I have a hurt shoulder that is not getting any better....I hope this pod cast helps!

[@AcceleratingUniverse]

how's it going

[@DanteLikesRock]

Damn. She dead

[@td1253]

Outstanding shirt Rip

[@mikea6710]

Can you please do the echo when the comments are read, please.

[@boriken395pr]

2:56! Oh man, that is so funny and made my night! People is crazy!:)

[@dojas6635]

the subject starts in 4:33

[@malcolmhales8181]

I do use a rowing machine to help warm up before i train.

[@Crunchifyable2]

Intro reminds me of Rush Limbaugh show. I liked it.

[@bool2max]

"This is important because it keeps me from thinking of something clever to do" lmao

[@StrikeforceJedi]

Jamie is alot more vocal now that he's working for Rip.

[@romeb9765]

Strangest commercial for a James Bond movie I've ever seen.

[@saadalazmie9955]

Nice shirt , how can i get one?

[@corephysio8764]

What a legend

[@tedp9945]

Rip you are a real inspiration. Amazing you've done so much even though you have the diabeetus.

[@lambsaucehunter9316]

😂😂😂

[@philipkruseman8437]

Great shirt

[@georgemackwrites]

What I learnt from this video is that I shouldn't be curling in the squat rack.

[@SaniBravo]

Diggin the Baby Shit Yellow T shirt 💪🏾💯💪🏾

[@KenOnStrength]

#19 wasn’t covered in the Blue Book.

[@sgbrainstrain4978]

Can an intermediate lifter, who has made significant strength and muscle gains, benefit from switching to “starting” strength? In other words, will they eventually get to where starting strength will take them, or is there some untapped strength gains in the starting strength program that they will never achieve otherwise?

[@dariusgoatland10]

What are your lifts, height & weight? You can probably run a linear progression for a month if you squat & deadlift less than 365 for 5, bench in the low 200s, press around a plate, clean in the 200s, & eat & recovery well.

[@dard4642]

I think the guy listened to a few episodes of Comments from the Haters and is convinced he understands the NLP.

[@Tehownilator]

Rip is someone who is soberly and genuinely engaged in his field; and like God, he has no desire or obligation to chase you down and stop you from being a moron. I see so many people criticizing Rip and they give away the fact that they don’t have the tiniest clue about the book or program within 20 seconds. They’re all female minded; right from the desire to draw eyeballs instead of develop excellence in the field to the catty and illogical way they feud with those they disagree with. The spirit of the father is largely dead in the west, and that’s how I know that Rip is right at least half of the time; because everybody else is approaching the issue from a spiritually lacking position.

[@HUGEFLYINGWHALE]

It makes perfect sense as "drawing eyeballs" is much more functional in our society than upping barbell numbers. I'm 183cm 85kg. Yesterday I squatted and next to me a short fat dude squatted much more than me. I wouldn't swap... not looking like shit is and should be extremely important to us

[@TheYouTubeMechanic]

What does rip think about foam rolling?

[@JohnKrank]

Great t-shirt, btw.

[@waltersobchak6546]

The second Craig Bond Movie is (even) better than the first one.

[@benjaminzaoui9683]

"This is just the human condition, and let me be the first to apologize to you for that."😆✌🇺🇸 Gotta love RIP!

[@mrsprinkles1641]

To be clear rip recommends lifting as normal if u have herniated l5 s1?

[@jaghad]

I came for the cute puppy. Where is the little cuttie? 😊

[@matt4759]

Where can I get that shirt?

[@scottmoyer3854]

Rip is so manly that he can use the word "fabulous" and still sound convincing.

[@DanGibsonGuitar]

I'd like to see a 93 year old grandmother squat 80kg

[@wreagfe]

PUPPY! 🐶🐶🐶🐶 The little dog was also cute.

[@palmlifeuk3553]

What is wrong with a trap bar deadlift? If you can keep adding 10 lbs to it regularly do you not get strong?

[@FinalHeresy]

@First Last Trapbar is a much riskier exercise than the deadlift according the Rip. He's did a podcast with Mark matthews and he went over it in detail for a long time. trapbar is less stable at the top position essentially, and everyone can do the deadlift who can do the trapbar.

[@palmlifeuk3553]

I am a beginner. I train at home and feel more confident with the trap bar than the barbell. I'm not doing SS but am applying the principle of adding weight everytime and doing 3/4 x 5. If there was a SS gym near me in the UK I'd join up straight away.

[@palmlifeuk3553]

@First Last I liked that video

[@TheGumboVariator]

@First Last Funny that you say that because Alan Thrall is a starting strength coach, and has been intensely nut-hugging all things SS these past years, to the point that his channel was unwatchable for a while. Now he moved on to deep-throating the guys @ Barbell Medicine

[@operationtruth288]

Got my poster Today

[@HAL-dm1eh]

It would be interesting to hear what Rip has to say about the new woke Bond.

[@justinwright2503]

The phone calls from Joe Rogan during these podcasts are hilarious. However, I would love to see Rip on Joe Rogans podcast! Would anyone else like to see it? Lets take a vote? Like this comment if you agree.

[@profitfever]

tbf for a guy whos 65 hes sharp, quick witted and healthy looking. If i look like him when i'm 65 i'll be pleased. Hes got such a know it all mentality though, i bet he's a peach to argue with at a party :D.

[@xDMrGarrison]

It's not a knowitall mentality, it's an intelligent man responding to stupid people. Being humble when you're obviously right is just phony.

[@totallyraw1313]

Is Rip on TRT?

[@chipsnegativeharmonyrips7187]

Hey Rip, can you publish a new edition of The Super Athletes by David P. Willoughby? Thanks. I've never read it but I've seen it referenced many times in strength-related discourse, including by you. I find the accounts of the old strongmen and lifting competitions inspiring. While you're at it, I also found Super Strength by Alan Calvert quite enjoyable.

[@AruMaLyon]

I gave the program a trial run and realized I need to work on my form before I can add more weight.

[@denariusshekels]

Where’s the cute puppy ? Rip you didn’t eat him , did you

[@mattbaker2952]

Denarius Shekels he put that dang dog in the smoker

[@ioncasu1993]

Did he actually say "have a beer"?

[@AcceleratingUniverse]

yes. are you aurally impaired?

[@gregorymccoy6797]

I want the shirt!

[@davetaitt4109]

😂 I wanna make a hate comment just to hear Rippitoe rip on it. But I can't, because I love hearing this shit. Funny stuff. Bicycling helps with the lower back.

[@justinbordwell4654]

Ur Joe Rogan talk would last 5 minutes. We do deads, squats, overhead and bench press for 5. Slowly add weight over time and you'll be a stronger person end of story

[@gojira444]

Cool. Why do you do it that way though?

[@justinbordwell4654]

@@gojira444 science says so

[@filipcobanov]

@@gojira444 cause it works

[@robertopalmieri3803]

Ok no let's talk about this. The lad here is NDTP and we can all agree about that because his 20 points basically say so. That said, it's just unfair to shit on his gains. 40kg to 80kg on the squat means +40kg in 2 months without even doing the program properly. If I could put 40kg on my squat in that length of time I'd be butchering lambs on the top of a mountain singing lode to zeus. Not everyone can get his squat to 405x5 on his first linear progression, otherwise every gym would have a few 600+ raw squatters and that is not the case in my experience. What if we just say "mate, forget the BS, stick to the program properly for 2 more months and get back at us when you weigh 200lbs and squat 300x5"?

[@bendtaaen63]

I am 59 Working on getting a pot belly at 63..... I´ll manage the hard work....:-)

[@CSShowcase]

What is that pinkness on your elbow?

[@wesoblander3648]

It was designed to make you think of your pink panties and pink toenails.

[@TheEnvelopeOZ]

Rip can you come to Australia to coach me?

[@hamirchauhan]

I have the exact same problem. Joe Rogan keeps calling me and I have told him several times that I am not interested in appearing on his show.

[@vincentt753]

Where is the puppy!

[@danielklinglesmithv2732]

I think rip got trolled with the board Post.

[@keithtracy7221]

A before and after podcast with a doctor completely unfamiliar with Starting Strength would be great. Before and after a seminar.

[@rigohook1160]

I feel betrayed, i just listened to this because i saw a puppy.... Just joking

[@connorw360]

Rip how many hours sleep do you get, and how much coffee do you drink

[@willoneill8866]

Where’s the puppy?

[@spambuddyboy]

Click bait

[@RandomGuyyy]

Ikr I only clicked for the doggo

[@juvinious]

His shirt! D: How can anybody get big if they don't curl in the rack. Sheesh.

[@nickmanning4prez]

Healing back pain-Dr. John Sarno

[@stevegolden1389]

Come on mark your doing radio shows on airplane's, workout belts and security guards, what's next the softest frozen yogurts in Texas?

[@user-qu2gc5bx2k]

Rip is QT 😘

[@zxcvbnm6669]

Great videos ..anyway

[@jimriley9903]

What I learned from not doing the program (a.k.a. NDTFP): other methods of training may be significantly more effective, depending on the individuall.

[@dark808bb8]

jeeze that joe rogan guy is super clingy!

[@CreightonMiller]

Why haven't you had Joe Rogan on your podcast yet?

[@teamgitusome]

26:08 hes either a german national or a pretentious american hahahhahah

[@TL13579]

Man, the first post was so narcissistic.

[@SarumanDeWhite]

T that bugger thought he’s good enough to conclude things after just two months of training.

[@boriken395pr]

1:27!:))))) That is the best!:))))

[@nickmanning4prez]

Was the guy with neuropathy a long time smoker?

[@dawgsmycopilot]

Jesus christ, I'm a 43 year old housewife and I bench more than that. (Dude discussed at about the 9 min mark.)

[@ggrthemostgodless8713]

LOL

[@Huffman_Tree]

Don't put yourself down like that, just because you're a 43 year old female doesn't mean that your standards should be that low.

[@ggrthemostgodless8713]

@@Huffman_Tree Her standards are NOT low... his are!! Didn't you get it??

[@Huffman_Tree]

@@ggrthemostgodless8713 Hers are low as well, by the way she commented. Rip himself said in the vid that even a 90 year old granny could do this, so it shouldn't really need pointing out that a 43 year old woman benches more. Of course she would bench more, unless you somehow think that this amount of strength would be surprising.

[@dawgsmycopilot]

@@ggrthemostgodless8713 Don't worry about it. Obviously, reading comprehension is not his strong suit.

[@teamgitusome]

22:20 😵😵😵😵😵😵😵 HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA