Q&A - Playing Dead on Film, Hierarchy of Journalists & Writing Quiz Show Music

00:00 - Intro
00:52 - Q1 - How to play dead?
03:30 - Q2 - How does the point system work on shows?
08:21 - Q3 - Is there a hierarchy of reporters?
14:30 - Q4 - Writing Theme Music for Shows
21:09 - Q5 - Are Critics allowed to reject certain shows/films?
Who sits where in the hierarchy of a newsroom? How does scoring on panel shows actually work? What are the secrets of acting like a corpse? More of your questions answered on this episode of The Rest Is Entertainment with Richard Osman and Marina Hyde.
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[@mikesanborn4541]

This show has such a calm measured intelligence, it's a joy to listen to.

[@matthewr8502]

Can't remember who said it, but I always loved the quip about Royal Correspondents being the equivalent of the piano player in the brothel.

[@viennacat1]

Love the Q&A episodes. Often hearing about how media works behind the scenes is far more fascinating than the actual product produced

[@andyballard1883]

Simply the best Podcast around. Richard and Marina are a brilliant duo with so much insight and experience of media and entertainment.

[@KristineMaitland]

Back in the late 60s my mother did her nursing degree at the University of the West Indies. It is a running joke about how her favorite shift was in the morgue. "The dead don't complain," my mother says.

[@BrayTube]

When I hear of an interesting film I first check to see what Mark Kermode thought of it. Not because I always agree with his take but because he clearly loves his subject and he is consistent and fair. I've loved films he's hated and hated films he's loved but I tend to know what I'm in for either way. His consistency is sufficient for me to gauge, as I listen to him slate a film, that I might actually like it. I love this podcast so much because I haven't had to make any such calibrations yet, every recommendation I've followed so far has been a hit. Thanks, guy! We all believe everyone is entitled to our opinion even though (as the last 20 years has shown) most of our opinions are pretty worthless. I've always wondered about opinion writers and critics, etc.- what must it be like to realise that beyond simply having value your opinions can buy a house?!

[@chaoticneutral6288]

You're both looking well, I hope you're both doing well too :) Thanks so much for being here twice a week to entertain us, I recently caught up on all the episodes and I have notifications on and look forward to every episode. Love all that you both have to say and to teach us !

[@Ryanneey]

Oh, can you tell more stories about Whose Line? I remember growing up watching the original and eventually the American version, and I was obsessed ❤

[@palmeraj70]

I'm delighted I ran across this podcast when I did. I'm forever watching pods about politics, economics, my football team, and they're all brilliant. However, all of those subjects have massive potential for negative news. Whereas entertainment is just entertainment. No guns, no bombs, no poverty, no misery...unless the discussion goes on to something like TOWIE 😁 Richard and Marina are excellent hosts, mines of information, and funny too. Keep up the great work 👏👏👏

[@NerdGirlUK]

I love the Q&A editions. Loads of stuff I've wondered about but not got round to asking. So glad that others have!

[@a0z905]

Really enjoy listening to your episodes at the start of my work day here in Australia, thanks for the interesting insights and thanks also to Marina for introducing me to my new favourite insult: the "C Monster" 😄

[@Hubbacks]

Still blows my mind that the Theme for "Going For Gold" was composed by Hans Zimmer!

[@chaoticneutral6288]

He composed for a MrBeast video too which felt surreal to me

[@caveman6627]

These notifications are the highlight of my week. Even though you said The Gentlemen was rubbish 👀

[@tobyk8125]

It wasn't even that good!

[@MLSNYC88]

10:45 - worked in sports writing for 10-15 years and this is painfully accurate.

[@mrsheffield37]

Thanks. Always excellent.

[@DrCalamityJan]

Wonderful episode.

[@vladimirimp]

This show is so brilliant.

[@maxine2798]

Perhaps all questions should start with “love the show Marina Richard “

[@stephenbarrette610]

Just another brilliant examination of the media. Not quiz show themes but my favourites are Hill Street Blues by Mike Post, Bob Jame’s Taxi theme, The Persuaders by John Barry and of course Thunderbirds by Barry Gray. Favourite quiz show theme music for me, that includes the really important beds and stings has to be Who Wants to be a Millionaire. (I even bought a CD of the music, very geeky I know)

[@JorWat25]

I'm pretty sure the Millionaire music won an award. It really is the gold standard for quiz show music.

[@JorWat25]

"The Strachans' Millionaire soundtrack was honoured by the American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers with numerous awards"

[@joesmyth88]

make these episodes much longer please.

[@Cchogan]

Royalties from themes is lovely! Especially if long running with loads of variations. Like the chappy who wrote the BBC News theme - how often does that get played? Depending on the station, that can be very nice. Getting music on a Discovery doc can be very pleasing when it gets repeated.

[@MrMakeDo]

I really enjoy this show.

[@christianstanding]

Great episode, as always, but now I'm going to be wondering for the next while which host they approached with the rebooted version of TIYL.

[@RudyR23]

On the topic of this podcast's theme tune, there's (almost) a ready-made remix available. Konichiwa by Pink Freud (particularly the second half of the song) gets stuck in my head every time I hear the intro to the pod. ❤

[@nickb4541]

re: the WILTY dissection by Richard, What stays in? Anything Bob Mortimer says.

[@user-ui5mi7ct9l]

Watched a film recently, I can’t remember the name, and the corpses nostrils were flaring constantly while the characters in the room were chatting 😂

[@peaboss]

Critique question was perfect alley-oop for recommendations

[@davidchambers7114]

lovely chat .. cheers DC Londoner in Oz

[@Alibotify]

Interesting that we have royal reporters in my country that behave the same way as the British! On point!!

[@johnwelch5132]

The Manic Street Preachers wrote a song called ‘Royal Correspondent’ when just journalists were particularly fawning of the Royals.

[@MarkSmith-re4he]

I’m a composer and have chatted to paul. Fantastic composer and so insightful. Would love to work on a game show !

[@highdownmartin]

VLS was a great tv critic. I occasionally disagreed with his viewpoint but could absolutely see how he arrived there. Victor is no longer down the line in York. RIP

[@trjhobart]

The interesting question here (for me) on Journalists being banned for unfavourable reporting is: Do you believe there's a line? The example where i would say it's acceptable to ban is where both Liverpool & Everton have banned The Sun for obvious reasons related to Hillsborough. You've said that people should be able to write what they want within the bounds of freedom of speech, but is a demonstrable falsehood the line to be drawn where they can be excluded for that sort of rule break? Just interested on it, not passing judgement, because obviously it's short-ish form answers where nuance can be lost.

[@trjhobart]

@@Est-os9yc The short period part is interesting because, of course, the ban I referenced continues to this day due to the egregious nature of the lies reported. Perhaps a sliding scale would be acceptable? But then there's the issue of subjectivity between clubs. I'm sure there's no easy answer, but it's an interesting chat to have !

[@RaphaelBriand]

From around 9:00 there appears to be a LOT cut out from Marina's juicy insights on newsrooms!

[@user-ol3xe5fz4u]

I miss Clive James reviews in the Observer back in the day!!!1

[@evilstu69]

I recently purchased Richard's first three 'The Thursday Murder Club' novels in paperback. The spines of the books are red, blue and green respectively. Is this a reference to Edgar Wright's / Simon Pegg's "Cornetto Trilogy"?

[@katiesvegpatch]

Was watching a cop show the other day (I think it was the brilliant Blue Lights) and the apparently dead old lady blinked as the police officer walked up the stairs.

[@PaulMcCaffreyfmac]

Osman's a good man but I LOVE Marina Hyde.

[@icarusandtherabbit]

Write the Theme Tune, Sing the Theme Tune. That’s how it goes 😊

[@callum9999]

This is easily my favourite podcast, but the editing can get a bit annoying! Is there a reason why they keep putting those newspaper clipping screenwipes in while they're halfway through a topic? Between questions it would make sense, but they just immediately pick up where they left off.

[@Grow_YouTube_Views_93]

the quality of your videos just keeps getting better and better

[@simoncarswell3515]

If I ever get around to forming a metal band I'm calling it "Benetton of Death".

[@ZeoR95]

It's not criticism necessarily, but music awards are very often given by people who don't know a thing about the specific genre being covered. Case in point: no metalhead takes the Grammy for Best Metal Performance remotely seriously, because it so often obviously goes to the one act they've heard of, regardless of the general consensus of the more specific metal press, or metalheads in general. I've also heard of this happening with other genres that are relatively niche, such as with the Afrobeat one they introduced this year.

[@tobyk8125]

No one should take any of the Grammys seriously

[@redballoonluke]

Hans Zimmer did Going For Gold

[@Robalogot]

I used to work in belgian football and players would refuse quotes when you gave them a 6 or lower...

[@RainbowPlays14]

A tangent, on the topic of theme music that viewers might find interesting. A couple of big names in production started out with the theme songs for Saturday Morning cartoons in the 80s. Chuck Lorre, of The Big Bang Theory and Two and a Half Men, was involved in the Theme Song for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Haim Saban and Shuki Levy (who later dominated Saturday mornings in the 90s with Power Rangers, and Fox Kids) wrote most of the catalogue for DIC Entertainments themes. Stan Lee, who was already massive in comics of course, wrote the theme for 'Defenders of the Earth'. Might be a bit American for you guys, but maybe interesting none the less.

[@playingdominoes]

Like a Benetton of death!

[@TheRestIsEntertainment]

Sounds like the perfect name for a Richard Osman Novel😂

[@michaelrobson3460]

Devad my air hockey challenge hasn't been addressed or taken up.

[@chrisalbertyn4004]

But how do they score QI?????

[@LiveDonkeyDeadLion]

Film composers are one of the five crucial parts of a successful film according to William Goldman in his great book, which lie did I tell? I’m sure you’ve probably read it, if not, my question is why haven’t you?

[@multiblurn]

I hate The Wheel bring back The Wall (Danny Dyer not Roger Walters)

[@richardcook1987]

I actually really fancy Marina.

[@pokedon92]

We all do.

[@highdownmartin]

I’m sure she’ll be able to cry herself to sleep with that newfound knowledge!

[@richardcook1987]

@@highdownmartin she's already rizzing me up in my DMs

[@highdownmartin]

@@richardcook1987 you’re jizzing in your Doc Martens? Dirty sod.

[@thomasdalton1508]

We need more journalists to say they aren't comfortable doing a particular story. There are far too many stories that really should never have been published. A little journalistic integrity would be nice...

[@Wafflehunter42]

Ethics is a standard thing taught in schools nowerdays it is not surprising that people stand up and say they are not going to write the story that should not be written.

[@jgcondron]

That's not journalism that's being a propagandist.

[@thomasdalton1508]

@@totallybored5526 It's a hope, rather than an expectation.

[@donnacoogan5333]

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[@donnacoogan5333]

​@@totallybored5526😊😅

[@tim2223]

More great insights from Richard, again spoilt by Marina’s evident attitude that no one outside of her aristocratic class should hold sway in the arts or media landscape.

[@cipherhex]

Can you give any examples?

[@richardcook1987]

She's brilliant. Also fancy the pants off her

[@GeoffBoydCott]

Interesting again how the Journo brushes over the issues regarding football clubs not letting papers in because of stuff they said. "Papers should be able to write whatever they like" lol. She worked for The Sun didnt she? I like the podcast, but once you get onto anything Journalistic it falls apart because the one leading the discussion is incredibly biased and it isnt insightful.

[@CaesarTjalbo]

The scoring on HIGNFY is complete bollocks

[@3dollarfilms.]

Hey was she the sexy teacher on the show Skins?

[@juliansydney9819]

No

[@MikusMusik]

A question for Marina Dudley-Williams, do you feel shame for working at the Sun? Daughter of a baron, being broke is no excuse.

[@BasketballJones1977]

Anyone else think Marina has a crush on Richard? 😮😅

[@juliansydney9819]

Oh calm down

[@peterdanielman]

...How fast does Marina talk when she's on coke?

[@mikesullivan3420]

She bleats on about wanting to win a quiz show and that she’d be revising for it yet spurts out utter inane incorrect bullshit week after week with obviously zero research. She just spews arse gravy every time she opens her mouth and guesses at things she clearly knows nothing about. She’s way out of her depth on here. Get someone else in.

[@thebagelsproductions]

I dunno, that's a bit harsh