Not ONE Honest Rating Was Given | Rating Attractiveness by Cut

[@earwac]

Hi I’m the brown striped girl! I’ve watched a few of your videos so this is pretty exciting. Sorry if it seemed like I was trying to pander to ppls feelings. Admittedly there’s a lot of moving variables here, plus we weren’t told to explicitly rate physical attraction, which gave us guessers a chance to move behind the “safety shield” of including personality or confidence in the rating. Def understandable that people did not like the tone of that video. I’d actually love to see a video about historical beauty standards vs modern and the scientific backing behind those (ex. Yang Gui Fei was a large woman and considered the beauty standard, despite modern China preferring thin women now). Thanks for the content ^^

[@QOVESStudio]

Thankyou Rae, did the production team guide your decision making in any way? Were you afraid of social backlash for saying the wrong things live?

[@panjaab6797]

@@QOVESStudio hey you make awesome videos , can you make a video on puffy eyes or eyebags or big curvy eyelashes on men? Any of these topics would be great

[@earwac]

​@@QOVESStudio Yes to both haha. For almost all the shoots that I've participated in, they always like to ask follow-up questions or converse with you (probably for more content to choose from and to somewhat guide the flow of the video). I'll still own up to whatever I said tho since they were genuinely my perspectives To answer ur second question, I knew that if I were to base my ratings off of societal standards purely I'd get shit for it, but I also knew that if I gave 10/10 to everyone I'd still get shit XD I was super anxious but I pushed myself to film bc I didn't want to be afraid of criticism or saying the wrong thing. I was trying to be thoughtful and open-minded to different beauty ideals, but it just came out as disingenuous. Next time I'd probably do it differently and separate what I think is physically attractive vs. society vs. non-physical attributes

[@mosdef140]

@@earwac your honesty is extremely refreshing. It's really rare now a days

[@jamesliu9440]

@@earwac would be impossible to give that girl a 4 in that situation

[@rereme1998]

there's nothing fundamentally wrong with being unattractive but unattractive people are treated worse. this mistreatment correlates to how they perceive themselves and their self worth. no one wants to be worth less

[@diddlydandles]

this is the comment I was looking for

[@luna-pt2gp]

Well said

[@JesusChrist2000BC]

In the modern woke everybody gets a trophy world they apparentely think everyone is a 10. The funny thing is all of these raters are the same people who will only swipe right on super attractive people on Tinder especially the women.

[@purpurina5663]

That’s why this whole positivity thing actually backfires. Instead of seeing that everyone has some good features, on which they can be complimented and which they can play up. Also, I haven’t exactly figured out the cause, but lately there is a tendency to make yourself as UNattractive as possible (some sort of provocation I guess).

[@Mariahmariahmariah3]

@@purpurina5663 how do you mean by make themselves as unattractive as possible? Can you give me some examples :)

[@scheibe2791]

This channel kills me because you’re slowly becoming more honest and unhinged with the way you speak and it’s hilarious 💀

[@grumpy-mcbaldsoo-killing-hoes]

Yes it’s beautiful

[@river8142]

Trueeee 😂

[@stvillasquad]

Based qoves

[@annate4347]

😬

[@bunnywavyxx9524]

no literally! when this man comes out with a new video I know it's going to be BRUTAL 💀

[@xoxoamazingful]

If you ever rate yourself below a 7 or say you're below average, people will just tell you that's not true and shower you with pity...it's basically toxic positivity 😩

[@David-vz5cz]

Totally agree, I know I'm a 5, most of my friend are 5s... But everyone think they're 7s = average hence I have to tell them I'm a seven too 1) I avoid the pity 2) I avoid telling people they're average ... but average mean 4,5 - 5,5

[@EssencexMari]

This is so true. I casually mentioned not being attractive to friend of mine during a conversation and she insisted that I am even though I said I accept that I don’t meet the beauty standards and that’s okay. I understood it came from a kind place, but I know what I look like.

[@SUPERTRASH_]

Exactly, lemme be a 3 in peace lemme just be ugly TF WHY YU MAD THAT IM UGLY LOIE

[@anonmous4468]

I completely agree. I rate myself between a 1 and a 4 and am constantly argued with because of that . The fact so many have disliked me without even talking to me shows to me that my appearance is offensive in some way I actually think I’m being generous giving myself a high of a 4 . So for people to argue that I’m ‘above average’ just dismisses my experiences and struggles and therefore it is yes toxic positivity .

[@GoldenBoyDims]

this why i use the 30 point scale it groups people into 3 tiers 1 to 10 is ugly 11 to 20 is average and 21 to 30 is fine

[@rachmaninovwasemo2313]

People aren't judging you for announcing that you are a gender queen goblin. They have no idea what that means so they are confused.

[@thebookwormhotel5336]

It was a joke lmao

[@rachmaninovwasemo2313]

@@thebookwormhotel5336 I don't think so. Left extremists are like this.

[@love-ip7sz]

@@thebookwormhotel5336 it's honestly not funny tho lol

[@jdarrrr]

​@@love-ip7sz well it sure got a lot of people

[@stielimusterman3066]

@@thebookwormhotel5336 Was it though?

[@jermwerm2575]

The worst thing is when you know you're ugly but then people give you pity compliments and you both know they are lying but it would be awkward to just outright confront them lol.

[@flavinsilva8913]

Yeah, im ugly, but good god I hate people giving me pity compliements. " you're an 8, or 7" or "oh but you are a nice guy".

[@Hsjsjskekdocienskspsbebdvd]

I mean how awkward it is to tell someone upfront”hey ur ugly” not knowing their reaction, anyone would play it safe and not be rude, ppl say what u say then go on and be hurt by the persons “honest” opinion so like u can’t win lmao

[@wd4440]

@@flavinsilva8913 😂😂😂😂😂😂 I used to be ugly but I have good genetics and I worked the bell out of myself. To be honest I got the pity comments in my fallen state too. Couldn't stand it

[@imani7979]

my tried and true way of determining my attractiveness is whether or not kids think i'm pretty. i have a 7yo sister and if there's one thing elementary school kids will tell you, it's the truth. if a little kid says i'm pretty i'll believe them, adults will say anything to seem kind or whatever, kids give real compliments because a) they're usually unprovoked and b) they literally have no reason to lie, especially to a stranger.

[@gj9157]

@@imani7979 Yeah I remember when I was a kid, I was blunt with pretty much everyone. Called women fat a million times back then.

[@urgh9822]

We need to be nicer to " ugly people " , but we also need to stop lying to protect egos. Both exist , both are fine .

[@MrJcalvino]

I agree. As soon as Beaty privilege doesn’t exist people less fortunate wouldn’t be hesitant to rate themselves more objective.

[@Took48]

fr, those 2 plate cleaners deserve nothing more than a 4.5

[@ACAB.forcutie]

The issue is, we are biologically programmed to prefer "attractive people", where attractiveness usually correlates to health, yada yada, we all know that part. It's hard to not associate goodness with good lookingness, just subconsciously from the way we evolved. So ugly people often have to work harder to be taken as seriously. It's kinda how sexism is almost baked into our biology. What has kept us alive? Mostly our brains and not our physical strength, but that has not stopped humans from associating physical strength with who should be in charge.

[@buster2644]

@@ACAB.forcutie pretty sure men are in charge (or were in charge) because they have more competitive and disagreeable personalities

[@deltaflux2381]

@@buster2644 Then again, you could also say that women are in charge, because women have way higher beauty standards for men than men do for women. Men on average rate around 50% of women as below average in attractiveness, whereas women rate like 80% of all men as below average attractiveness. This shows that women are seriously deluded when it comes to how attractive the average man is, and so that would mean that a larger amount of women instigate discrimination towards ugly men than men would to ugly women.

[@oliviamoos5747]

I personally see the "real scale" as 3-11. No one ever rates somebody below a 3, it makes the average 7, and quite a few people say something above 10.

[@TokioTE]

Interesting! It's kinda like vanity sizing

[@ariesmry]

It has a lot to do with American schooling. On the grading scale, a 70 (or 7/10) is considered “passing” or “average” and anything below a 7 is below average, so it’s changed the way people attribute numbers to a 1-10 rating scale. I personally think it’s pretty useless to rate someone by numbers- it doesn’t really tell them much.

[@rllycoolusernane]

@@ariesmry Yes exactly they don’t know 5 is actually the average

[@alili9349]

so where do people with deformities fall on the scale

[@oliviamoos5747]

@@alili9349 Well i guess it'd depend on the deformity, but i think objectively on a scale, most would fall in the 1-3 scale. However, because of politeness, nobody actually uses 1-3. Even if it was a super severe deformity, most people probably would say 3-4 still. 3 is the new 1.

[@Tony-1454]

A trick I learned is rate yourself a 10/10 in front of people, and honestly it pisses people off so much when someone is cocky and rates themselves a 10/10, that they give you your true rating

[@mlspeopleshoulddateeachoth6940]

Lol or if you really are a 10 they try to neg you to bring you down a peg or too

[@JemmaHeigis]

Brilliant

[@marmoris11]

what if they're actually a 10 tho? then what? would ppl still be pissed and give them a lower rating just because?

[@mar1nn998]

@@mlspeopleshoulddateeachoth6940 yes

[@ruwhite1316]

I think 10/10s are extremely rare

[@SanjediMasta]

If they had some Asian aunties on there the outcome would have been ruthless!

[@Poodle_Gun]

You mean objective

[@judygal33]

😂😂😂 yes to the aunties. They sugarcoat nothing. They’ll be like hey, you’re ugly but it’s okay

[@jacindapeters2303]

@@judygal33dang

[@kop-px8jy]

​​@@Poodle_Gunthey won't be objective due to colorism. Heard enough stories of gorgeous asian women who were called ugly for having dark skin by them.

[@kop-px8jy]

​@@judygal33they would be the last person to be objectives. Quite the opposite. Being rude isn't the same as sugarcoating.

[@justahumanbean_]

Being told the brutal truth is better than sugarcoated compliment.

[@ev2175]

Being told the bare truth in a loving way is best. Some people use the truth to pass off a comment without caring if it hurts someone

[@monke2871]

@@ev2175 this is very true. So many communities that revolve around "looksmaxing" or attractiveness are delivering truth in a way that hurts and brings people down. Qoves is doing a good job, simply being objective and explaining what can be done

[@ev2175]

@@monke2871 i agree

[@dancingcorpses5750]

@@ev2175 Totally agree. Not a fan of neither of those extremes (sugarcoating vs brutal truth). Why not say the truth, but in a kind, respectful way?

[@Loading-lg6hs]

i agree

[@NotANoob27x7]

I would really not confuse attraction with beauty, though. They are 2 different concepts.

[@mirayo7876]

Yes! Some people are attractive even if they don't have a perfectly beautiful face or body.

[@NotANoob27x7]

@@mirayo7876 the other way around, too. I know plenty of guys who say they dont really think emily Ratajkowski is attractive to them, because she is TOO beautiful.

[@aisling8308]

@@NotANoob27x7 I feel that way about male models and soccer players, they're so good looking that it's boring

[@vanadis9790]

@@NotANoob27x7 Emily is actually not that conventionally beautiful. Her body might be considered perfect, but her face has some bad angles, especially her side profile. Compared to the other famous models, I think she is the one with the least beautiful face and I know many people who think the same. But she has a lot of sex appeal

[@thelonercoder5816]

@@aisling8308 it's because you've never seen them in person lol..

[@matxalenc8410]

In their defense, 7 out of 10, is 70 percent which is considered average in school. A 5 out of 10, though?! 50 percent?! That's failing. Most people aren't failing in looks, but they damn well are not getting at least a B (80%/8 out of 10).

[@mayacollins3447]

Yes that’s why I just say average to some it’s seventy to others it’s fifty

[@JafacaksWasTaken]

a fair amount of people are failing lol

[@matxalenc8410]

@@JafacaksWasTaken Damn!

[@tigerlily9405]

Yeah the fucked up school system has taught us that getting any score below a 60-70 is unacceptable and a failure, so I don’t really blame these people for not wanting to rate below 7

[@alexforce9]

Hmmmm..thats inetresting. Coz I dont live in the US and I have always though about a 7 being like the bronze medal in the olimpics - majority of people dont win a medal, but its ok, coz its the fucking olimpics lmao.

[@laylametcalf1844]

I'm 100% certain that if you were to add elements of anonymity and secrecy in the the rating process the answers would look completely different. People don't want to hurt others feelings so it would be interesting to compare how anonymity would affect the results.

[@allisvain123]

I've noticed that usually when people do not really find any attractive traits about you, they quickly resort to telling you that ''you are confident'' and continue to sugarcoat the fact that they really do not find you attractive. I am not an attractive person, and whenever people tell me that my confidence is attractive, I find it as an insult, because that is the moment I usually know what they really think of me. However this is not always the case, some people genuinely find my confidence as something attractive. I also analyze their body language whenever they talk to me to give me better insight if they are lying or not.

[@miraj5569]

I don't know if I'd say that's automatically a lie if we're talking about attractiveness. Attractive doesn't equal good looking. I've had it plenty of times that I found people attractive whom I wouldn't have described as good looking, and yeah, a lot of the time, confidence played a big part. But that's another flaw with this kind of questioning, because they're not really asking about attractiveness (you can't really tell how attractive you find someone without talking to them for a bit), but about how good looking the people are. The people being questioned then answer like they would with regards to attractiveness, even though they weren't given the chance to really evaluate that. Either ask "how good looking is this person?" or have them spend more time together. This way it comes across as disingenuous.

[@mamamatt7774]

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[@biblelorax]

Such a good point tying attractiveness to your identity as a person; most people associate u calling them unattractive with their character, and their entire being. It can be hard to detach your identity from how you look because it is 'you', but at the same time there is a lot more beneath the surface that has little connection to how you look. Realizing this makes it ok to be called physically unattractive

[@idkwhatsmynamelol9281]

Has anyone wondered why they think that way? Oh that’s right because society acts like you’re worthless if you are unattractive. People can pretend that there’s more to a person than attractiveness but let’s be honest. Most people won’t get their foot in the door of life if they don’t hit a certain level of attractiveness. I don’t blame those people for feeling crushed from a bad rating.

[@opalminx8240]

@@idkwhatsmynamelol9281 your comment...amen cuz ppl act so obtuse on here. People would accept their looks better (especially women) if it wasn't tied to their worth

[@joezic]

@@idkwhatsmynamelol9281 bruh we are society, you say that like society are a group of people deciding what happens in the world, youre part of society, if you want society to change stop worshipping people just because theyre attractive youre part of the problem.

[@Threelegs94]

I don't understand the delusion, they would think why I'm not getting the cute guy. Smh

[@noway2835]

@@idkwhatsmynamelol9281 no shit but they can improve on themselfs then like you cant lie to yourself about how you look wtf

[@calebjosephcountry]

Unless you find yourself getting social benefits that no one else around you gets, just assume that you’re a 5 (average) or below. You’re not doing yourself a favor by pretending you’re something that you’re not.

[@softieee2359]

I agree

[@anniem251]

That’s interesting because I live in a small town where there aren’t a lot of young people and other young girls who do live here don’t put in a lot of effort into their appearances. So I do get complimented by strangers and sometimes people go out of their way to give me ‘special treatment’. But to put my attractiveness in quantitative terms, I’d say with sincerity I’m at best a 6.

[@kaonashii.]

That’s the main thing I took away from this video. If you aren’t getting any type of special treatment or being told you’re attractive regularly, more than likely you’re not as attractive as you think you are. I want to become content with the thought that I’m most likely a 5

[@calebjosephcountry]

@@anniem251 That sounds like an honest self-assessment

[@calebjosephcountry]

@@kaonashii. Totally. It’s sad that people aren’t okay with being average. I see averageness as the blessing of a blank canvas.

[@casualtake1497]

People just trying to safe face 💀, they should do this anonymously

[@ME-hs7ll]

wait, that's actually a great idea, have the people first-rate themselves, then all rate each other anonymously

[@tryycoper3321]

we see a lot of that in scientific papers or studies though , KZbin videos like this were looking for an angle and they have their own audience to cater to I guess, there's not much science stuff to look for in that video.

[@ME-hs7ll]

@@tryycoper3321 of course, but sensationalizing would bring more attention to the actual truth behind the subject.

[@ragamuffinm2834]

AGREE!! QOVES

[@lucasouza4846]

true, these people are just afraid of backlash

[@FLY-ec5cs]

"bigger body" is such a nice way to save your ego instead of being honest to yourself...

[@Hunnibeeeatwr]

But she is in a bigger body? It’s like a slim/petite person saying they are in a smaller body

[@ezekeifamily]

@@HunnibeeeatwrFat body

[@tristannottrysten]

@@Hunnibeeeatwr say that you're fat and work on it. If you don't put in the work, then don't expect people to like you

[@4jeongmo]

fr its like when they say "no i'm not fat i'm just thick" or "i'm not obese i'm just plus size" 🤦🏼‍♂

[@ignasa007]

​@@tristannottrysten Wdym? Being fat isn't unhealthy (unless you're obese), and no one should be ridiculed for not giving into society's high beauty standards. She knows she's fat, but that word has a negative connotation, so she says bigger bodied, but that doesn't mean she rejects the idea of being fat.

[@Listlesss]

I love how honest u r in ur videos it honestly feels like a breath of fresh air

[@jill7889]

It's true that the best way to understand your attractiveness is seeing how people treat you, not rating scales where people overestimates your attractiveness just to be nice. I know I'm more attractive now than I was a few years ago, i lost my "baby fat" and I'm thinner in general. I've always been very shy, but in the past i was just ignored and considered weird for that. Now people don't ignore me, they try to talk to me when I'm out, they try to keep the conversation going even if I'm not really sociable...they treat me better, they smile at me. At first it was weird, I've never being treated like that... it's still weird actually, but this made me more confident, I go out with friends more often, I feel better about myself.

[@htimelines1089]

Not that reliable of a way imo, due to cultural differences in countries. Where I live people don't tend to just walk up to you and talk to you, people are more closed off unless they're in a circle of friends. Meanwhile, when I visited America people were very open, constantly smiling at me, and treated a stranger like me better than where I live.

[@fighter77weon]

@@htimelines1089 Where are you from if may I ask?

[@katpage9378]

That also can possibly explain your type of attractiveness, which I’m guessing is most likely welcoming and/or cute. Also if you’re visibly shy that could explain their friendliness (they want you to feel more comfortable, it could come across as cute, you aren’t intimidating because you’re clearly insecure and probably won’t judge them). Or if you do an awkward shy smile a lot, etc.

[@jill7889]

@@katpage9378 Yep you got it 😂 but it's interesting how back in the day I wasn't "so cute/sweet 😊😚" but "weird/antisocial/what's wrong with you why you never talk 🧐🤨"

[@htimelines1089]

@@fighter77weon nl

[@therongertz3570]

God, The Cut is annoying with the way they frame things. You can tell they're acting like this video is some 'mind-expanding story about tolerance and queer bodies being beautiful,' when really it's just polite Gen Z-ers lying to each other to be nice. This doesn't do anything for anyone in the real world, other than inordinately gas them up and give them a false self-perception that they (hopefully) will get over as time goes by.

[@BigV24]

It’s so blatant too, it’s actually uncomfortable to watch. Reading the comments actually made me more concerned, are Gen Z really not self-aware? Lmao

[@fehyndana7725]

Exactly 🙄 The „all bodies are beautiful“ bs already started with millennials but Gen Z is on a whole other level of reality denial!

[@akilegna1255]

Are they not millennials?

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

@@fehyndana7725 I'm afraid my generation is just taking what millennials preached and amplifies them even more.

[@ineedmoresleep3728]

It feels worse than being called ugly, it feels like my hang ups about my own appearance are being invalidated. Obviously there’s different attractive in different places such as high cheekbones being considered attractive in some places but not others. But there’s also overall attractiveness, stuff that’s beyond cultural and societal norms.

[@denisemacalino8274]

As much as I love your channel, I think maybe the reason they weren't being "honest" is because attractiveness was being taken in a less literal or scientific way, but a more 3-Dimensional way (not just physical attributes). My sister, who is an aesthetician, told me that attractiveness isn't just your face or your body. That's why you can have a crush on a guy you think is cute, and then have to explain to your friends that he's cuter in person when showing them photos. Or why you can see someone and think they're beautiful, and as soon as they open their mouths they become unattractive. So we are attracted to people because of many things - energy, mannerisms, quirks. I would agree with you if they were rating people on physical features. But attractiveness is a loose term and I think in this context they meant it in all the other ways that count too

[@sadracrovi]

The problem is, there is no scientific and objetive standards for 3-Dimensional attractiveness or "potential beauty", so trying put it in a scale wich you will not be objective to, is just pointless

[@mrdouche9172]

I agree about the photo thing. Some people look better in person than in photos and some people look better in photos than in person.

[@alexforce9]

But if you interact with someone for like 2 minutes, for them to be seen as attractive even if phisicaly they are not - its pretty hard. I mean - yeah, charm and personality are a thing, but unless they are super strong one, expressive, outgoing one - you will not realy feel it for 2 minutes.

[@Ivib123]

You explained the way most women think but men are different. Men are attracted by appearance, if they don’t find you physically attractive then they don’t care about your vibe, personality or quirks. That’s why if an attractive girl talks a lot they would describe her as bubbly and outgoing but if an unattractive girl talks a lot they’ll say she’s loud and annoying.

[@sadracrovi]

@@Ivib123 If anything this just shows 1.The kind of men you surround yourself with (if you're a woman) 2. The kind of man you are (if you're a man)

[@taradois]

It is so refreshing to have found a channel that specifically does NOT pander to feelings or "political correctness", but rather approaches the topic of attractiveness through the lens of science and objectivity. I find it incredibly helpful and honestly quite grounding, in order to find my own personal baseline.

[@kandy1643]

By political correctness do you mean woke? Because I’m honestly confused what politics has to do with attractiveness. This isn’t meant to send any negativity your way, I agree with what you have said

[@moonknight2865]

Shut up. Beauty has nothing to do with politics. What a fucking stupid comment.

[@mysweetsummerchild]

Y’all are so weird, what’s political about scientifically talking about beauty? Conservatives are so weird.

[@taradois]

@@kandy1643 to reply to you and the person below you, look up “PC“ or “politically correct“. Maybe it’s a different generational thing not knowing this term, I don’t know, but the idea of something being PC has WAY less to do with literal politics and wayyy more to do with what people generally find acceptable or not acceptable. It’s a very very old term, but frankly doesn’t have a whole lot to do with actual politics. Thanks for the kind ask.

[@taradois]

@@mysweetsummerchild see reply to the person above. Once you know what PC means and realize it’s not literally political, the world might seem way less weird.

[@kaldrax1]

The reason 7 is the middle of the road is because there are two scales: one based on averaging out the attractiveness of all people, and one based on how much attractiveness you feel towards someone. On the second scale, a 5 means "neither attracted nor repulsed" and the reason why most people end up around 7 is because they feel moderately attracted to average people. In other words, "The level of attraction I feel towards 5s is around 7"

[@analogueapples]

Also, if they are rating them, compared to all people, they are more attractive than the average. Already because they are young. People in cities also look more attractive, because they take care of themselves, look modern and there is more pressure to be pretty.

[@Velarisq]

@@analogueapplesalmost all of them below 5 tf u talking about

[@deltaflux2381]

That wouldn't be true for women's attraction to men, though. The average man is unattractive to women.

[@luunars]

@@deltaflux2381that’s why men are rated on average as a 6 by women. A little bit attracted to them but not in love

[@wompwomp1099]

I love how clear, cut, and honest you are OMG! You have no idea how many people hide honesty due to fear of being harshly criticized. The truth is-you’re saying exactly what most of us are thinking.

[@kokos7010]

The difference in the number of plus sized models is given by the fact that plus sized women still look ‘feminine’, sometimes even more so than the slim ones, which is appealing to a part of the public, not so much the modelling agencies themselves. On the other hand, plus sized men also look more ‘feminine’, with the gynocomastia and softer facial traits, except for them this is not in their favour since the modelling industry prefers a masculine look in general and the public as well.

[@Hashashin_420]

I would disagree. If it's about being masculine why aren't there models with very prominent brow ridges, recessed hairlines, and wide noses (apart from certain races)? All of those are considered masculine traits. And it's not like being plus size is completely feminizing, your face gets wider and you are bigger broader which is considered masculine. If anything being plus size is completely against our ideas of femininity, I mean a woman with a broad frame, wide face, and arms bigger than the average man isn't really feminine. I think the reasons are mainly societal and evolutionary. Women feel more pressured by beauty standards (despite them having easier beauty standards to deal with and a greater ability to manipulate their attractiveness) hence they feel the need to fight for a more accurate represntation. Secondly, men in general find a wider range of women attractive and are less judgmental with looks, hence we see them rating women higher in comparison.

[@ariesmry]

@@Hashashin_420 how do women have easier beauty standards to deal with and greater ability to manipulate their looks?

[@alexforce9]

@@ariesmry Coz male beauty stanadrs are like- be tall and with wide frame, strong jaw line, and "hunter eyes".- basicly - have "pretty " bone structure. For women is - be tall. Or short. or avarage. With big boobs. Or avarage boobs. With more round face. Or slimmer face. ect. A wider variaty of women is seen as attractive. And women have make up. And its socialy accepteble for them to use it every day. Or to use lip injections, botox, ect.

[@Hashashin_420]

@@ariesmry I agree with what @Alex Force pointed out. And that's exactly what I had in my mind too. The things that are expected of men are literally unchangeable, you are either born with it or not. Further more there is a stigma against men even trying to change their looks, because that is seen as some sort of betrayal. So they very clearly are only judged based on there genetics. Make up isn't acceptable, any form of implants aren't acceptable, shoe lifts aren't acceptable. All these are socially acceptable for women to do. Even things like a hair system or hair transplant are looked down upon. I have even heard women say they don't like when men go to gym "too much" because "he is obsessed with his body and looks". The data and studies we have suggests that men as a group rated women higher then women rated men. And men find a wider range and variety of women attractive where as in comparison women were very choosy and preferred a small portion of men. Moreover men were more likely to look past their preferences upon meeting someone in person. This is in line with what we know of primates and most animals in general, it's that the majority of men are genetic dead ends that are considered not fit for reproduction. Our own DNA seems to suggest that only 40% of men while 80% of women reproduced from amongst the ancient humans. And you can also see this throughout human history when we don't enforce monogamy. One example in my mind is the Arabian peninsula from pre-Islamic period. Where you would frequently read about men with a lot of wives while some of them were also killing daughters at birth.

[@cecee3480]

Men don’t go through what women do hormonally or with child birth. You have to be extremely unhealthy to be overweight as a man it’s just not natural at all. It’s normal for women to be chubby and have a higher body fat percentage vs men so women can get away with being plus size. Why is he leaving out that women naturally have a higher body fat percentage for reproductive reasons. Now I’m not saying obesity for women is normal but being toned/ muscular isn’t natural for many women either. It just isn’t that is why people still can find plus size women attractive. There is no reason for men to have a high body fat percentage. It’s not natural so it’s not seen as attractive. Not that hard to understand.

[@Art_and_Anxiety]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with being "average." I'm average, my family's average, etc. I wrestled with this knowledge back in my 20's, but I realized I was attributing averageness to blandness and other negative descriptions. Average is just average. You can still be attractive! As long as you take care of your health and hygiene and make an effort to dress well, you'll be just fine.

[@gigi-1753]

Honey if that's you on your ProfilePic trust me, you aint average. And I'm not generous in that respect.

[@morganlefay195]

You aure not average but beautiful, if your profile pic is your real face.

[@barry2349]

Arr you trying to get attention?your not average

[@redacted461]

@@gigi-1753 but her features are average. Nothing stands out. She is not ugly and she is not striking. So she is average

[@joelprince4170]

@@redacted461 the same applies to most celebrities aswell. I have seen what of some of them look like without thier makeup and hair done. They look normal people.

[@endgamefond]

This video causes body dysmorphia. Please don't get annoyed when someone says she is a 7. Attractiveness IS subjective. You rate and her rate are different. of course it is different, coz rate of attractiveness is subjective!

[@petter3995]

Attractiveness is largely objective.

[@Theonetheonly-k9d]

What you said is objectively untrue lmao, it’s been proven attractiveness is objective. Also it’s not anyone’s job to pander to how anyone feels about themselves when telling them the truth, the world is a rough place and mean. If you’re gonna cry about being told the truth then don’t go on the internet.

[@SuperAutastic]

I fully agree. If you rate someone a "5" they act as if you just said the most insulting thing to them-- as if you called them "horribly ugly"... but 5 is literally average. None of these people are an 8/10, hell none of these people are even a 7/10 and that's okay... 8/10's are rare... because attractiveness, as you said, is a bell-curve. Can we please stop pandering to people's feelings and just be honest. It's not healthy or positive or revolutionary or even kind to just lie pretend that everyone is a 7 or 8 out of 10.

[@katpage9378]

Exactly bro

[@CCC9437]

Average means unremarkable… not standing out … to most that’s an insult

[@kiiltochii1607]

I gave all these people 4 or 5 (at least the ones I remember)

[@SuperAutastic]

@@CCC9437 they needa check their ego... y'all all cant be the main character

[@SuperAutastic]

@@kiiltochii1607 fr fr

[@QOVESStudio]

4:15, It's not clear in the video, the distribution of attractiveness CAN be skewed to the left or the right (saying it is physically impossible is a bit misleading), instead if this is the case, we should socially redefine what 'average-looking' is, where 7 becomes the new 5, otherwise it defeats the purpose and we get comments like at 0:04 where 8 is considered 'middle of the road.'

[@greenluxi]

Have you ever covered the perspective bias. Meaning, most people do not encounter "10's" in their daily life, they've only seen it in pictures. I can say from my personal experience, I used to work at a tourist destination that was near a very high end hotel in a large city. The door count of my place of work was 7.2 million people a year. Anyone who came to my city was encouraged to stop in at my location. I've seen people from all over the world, and I can count on one hand the people I would even attempt to put in the category of "10". So another reason for the skewed ratings may very well be that if you've only encountered 8's tops--How do you think that would skew how someone thought about themselves. Most 10's live in highly concentrated areas--LA, NY, etc. and even then they won't be living life like others, they're not on the subway, they aren't in your classroom, they don't have regular jobs, they aren't in the general population. And when they are like in LA, the high concentration of 10's skews their perspective, that's how a LA 8 is a 10 everywhere else. They are then comparing theirselves to all the other good looking people around them. In a room full of 8's 9's and 10's, 8's become the "average". So how do you think someone's lived experience influences this rating system? If we are taking the total population and using that to determine 1-10, but in practice we in general use our personal experience with how we are treated and how we are reacted to in our day to day lives, then the reality that most people never see a true 10 in person would affect the ability to objectively rate, no?

[@BigV24]

When everyone’s “beautiful” or “attractive” we’re devaluing aesthetics. I wish people wouldn’t lie and pretend like we don’t inherently know. They want to deny that feeling you get, that innate sensation when you view something aesthetically pleasing. It’s nothing to be ashamed about, it can leave you in awe and be inspiring. That channel probably knows what it’s doing (and I guess it worked since I’m engaging with the content) but I cringed so much during that video. 💀

[@mariandeguzman4882]

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[@MelenaSoleil]

Well what's the point of making a distinction tho 🤔 I feel like telling ppl THIS is what's attractive and acceptable and THAT is not it's actually very VERY problematic. EVERYONE DOES have a level of beauty, ppls unique features and physical stature has SOMETHING about it that is beautiful in either a universally attractive way or an artistic way. It's not even really right to RATE someone's attractiveness.

[@angusmarch1066]

@@MelenaSoleil saying something is attractive is very different from saying it is acceptable. Aesthetics are a an evolutionary fact. Humans respond to symmetry, they respond to healthy hair, skin and teeth, and yes they respond to size. Of course everyone has their own preferences that they find personally attractive, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and people all have features that make them stand out positively, but you cant in good faith look at a supermodel and say that they are not empirically attractive even if you personally arent attracted to them. Aside from those base reactions, looks dont mean anything, personality is what matters to a person. With that being the case, it is contradictory to acknowledge that looks dont matter and then going to such lengths to ameliorate the feelings of people who are not conventionally attractive, by hyping them up. It seems counterintuitive to me, that you are trying to lessen the personal value attached to physical attractiveness, while simultaneously upholding the value placed on physical attractiveness.

[@MelenaSoleil]

@@angusmarch1066 what are you even talking about? I think you read my comment with emotion therefore seeing things that simply are not there, rather than truly grasping the intent and point of my comment overall. You made a lot of highly inaccurate and irrelevant assumptions.... Strange 🤔

[@BigV24]

@@MelenaSoleil have you not been watching QOVES' videos? there's universal signs of attractiveness and it's subconsciously embedded in us, we know what's attractive. My gripe is people denying this. And I disagree with your point about everyone being universally attractive, that's impossible. How you confront that is up to you, I don't think lying to someone is the right way to do that. Understandably in the video it's socially awkward to tell a stranger that but if you do it in good faith is it really a bad thing?

[@lolface7723]

PLEASE do more reaction videos like these I love these kinds of videos and always love watching an actual person who knows what hes talking about rate these people

[@myahill7475]

This is extremely unhealthy… being attractive means just that. Someone is attracted to you. The rating system is to keep people in line which is understandable but still a structure to degrade. Our whole societal structure is to make you feel inadequate.

[@pwabd2784]

A superficial rating, regardless of whether or not it's accurate, will not change the reality of how people treat you, your success in dating and romance, and your professional life. Doesn't mattet how many people call that fat girl with the green hair a 7. She stilk has to go out into the real world and face the outcome of her being unattractive.

[@theblackkaiser5748]

If you're ugly, you're ugly.

[@JP-ve7or]

This video is fascinating because I outright reject the concept of rating people's attractiveness at all. It's such a fucking high school mentality.

[@talking.headless]

@@JP-ve7or I don't understand how people can rate someone out of 10. Anything higher than a scale of 3 stops having meaning to me.

[@nikakozar832]

True! Also, I see so much beauty in people on an everyday basis, physical and non-physical, and it just makes me really sad that some people apparently don't, and are referring to others as numbers on a scale and then calling that rude behaviour "science" and "the objective truth".

[@shanellerosado63]

The actual attractive people rate themselves lower to seem humble and everyone rates the unattractive people much higher for pity

[@Hajsster]

It works analogously to that how we rate films. A solid film is usually rated as 7 out of 10, whereas 5 out of 10 should be considered as that, neither bad nor good. Maybe rating by this scale is invalid itself.

[@mrdouche9172]

Add video games to that. 7/10 is barely worth the full price tag, while good starts at 8/10. It's also known as the IGN rating scale.

[@alexforce9]

It actualy makes perfect sense. Coz for our brains - avarage is not worth investing our time/attention to. No one wants to spend 90 minutes watching a movie that is "ok". We want to invest ourselfs is something that is good. Life is a zero sum game - we only have limited time, money, energy and attention to spare.

[@Hajsster]

​@@alexforce9 I wouldn't say 'our brain' for the sake of its misleading effect. We're our brains and saying that brains do this or work that way just unnecessary separates us from our sheer fundament. What's more, in a such narration we aren't in charge of our actions. In this case, indeed, we are. We assume that the higher a rank, the better a film. One of the situations when talking about our brains rather than ourselves makes sense is when we ponder perceptions, neurochemistry, the connectivity based on tractography, some structures (for instance basal ganglia) and its functions, in other words, how it works internally and generally. I hope you see my point. As for rating things, maybe it proceeds from our evaluation system in school. In my country we've got 6 or 5 level scale. 6 is the highest mark, 1 is the lowest. The 4 is considered a solid mark, which suggest one's quite smart if one got it. The 3 means that a half of the responses was wrong and another half was correct. Therefore it's not so satisfying. Later we judge things similarly. It's just my hypothesis.

[@alexforce9]

@@Hajsster Would you feel better if I used the word "mind" instead of "brain"? :) Coz I was refering more to a psychological side of things.

[@Hajsster]

@@alexforce9 Yeah, I was aware of it, but yes, absolutely :)

[@chickenisindeedmystyle7316]

I think being honest would be less 'hurtful', cuz deep down you know the truth. I never get why some think saying that most people are 5 out of 10 (average or below), is a bad thing as that is the reality. It doesn't mean we can't take care of ourselves and present a better version

[@purpurina5663]

Yeah. Everyone has something nice. I think it’s better to say “you have pretty eyes” or “I like your high cheeks” or “you have amazing hair”, whatever. An overall rating is not very helpful in the end.

[@kiki-qp7jx]

5 isnt even that bad looking in reality. Even the people that qoves was saying were 5s were still people that many would find attractive, even if they are not the most perfectly conventionally beautiful

[@purpurina5663]

@@kiki-qp7jx yeah you’re right… I mean who would be a 2 unless you count malformations or medical conditions, which no

[@itsy-bitsyspider]

they didn’t rate physical attractiveness though, it was more about the overall vibe that’s why confidence played such a big role. no one asked them to specifically rate their physical features

[@sab-nm9di]

When it comes to “rating attractiveness” it’s always implied to be physical attractiveness. It’s kinda strange to ask someone to rate their own vibes because that’s something you emit around others. Hence, something that only others can feel

[@itsy-bitsyspider]

@@sab-nm9di would you give a high rating to a person with nice features, good bone structure and figure but with a very unpleasant voice, horrible body odour, no style whatsoever, bad makeup etc?

[@sab-nm9di]

@@itsy-bitsyspider everything you enlisted are physical traits, not vibes. Vibes is more complex than that. You might find someone physically attractive (good features, hygiene, and style) but still have bad vibes from them.

[@idrk1507]

Again, like the other commenter said, when someone asks you to rate them out of 10, you know exactly what they mean: physical features. Saying ''it was never said!'' is a way to justify the lying while being nice

[@idrk1507]

@@itsy-bitsyspider Yes, yes I would give them a high rating. Because the rating is to do with features. I would only mention I'm not attracted to them despite being beatiful/handsome

[@xristinarose2409]

100% agree with you. Those fake reviews might feel nice for half a minute, but they def do not help in the long run. I'm now trying my very best to look better and the reason for that is because one of my friends said that i m kinda ugly and should take better care of myself. Wasnt to happy to hear it at the moment, but he was right. Now that i take better care of myself, i got so many compliments from people around me who knew me for years. I wish someone has said it sooner

[@idrk1507]

Unpopular opinion: beauty (the actual definition- people's features) is MORE objective than it is subjective. If you put two very different people side by side, and directly tell everyone that they should vote the more beautifull person honestly, one person is gonna have 90% of the votes. In conclusion: beauty (the actual definition) is more objective than it is subjective, despite being both

[@lazysnorlax3015]

Who the hell cares? We are watching a video of a nerd talking about faces that shit is weird.

[@soyjoyy]

Different counties, cultures and time periods before globalization had completely different beauty standards. Take a person from 1700s and today and let them rank a beauty of two equally average-looking people: a black and a white person, and then compare the results. This pretty much proves beauty is subjective, some people just have more biases and prejudices and they rank people accordingly. Put a child in the environment where morbid obesity is glorified through television and media, and when they grow up they would rank every thin person below average. You can have the machine to figure out who is pretty or not, and then again - the people who program this machine are biased themselves, so its a never ending circle. You can never be objectively beautiful, but your appearance can be trendy, and therefore "beautiful", for a while.

[@reve605]

@@soyjoyy The comment is just saying that beauty is more objective than subjective. So, it still both but yeah the subjective part is what you're saying, there's a whole scientific explanation about how cultures is affecting our ideals of beauty and also people do still have personal preferences. The objective part is something biological such as facial proportions, harmony etc that's related to genetic health. This is where humans are all agreed. Attractive people, will still likely be seen as attractive if they clearly have all the the good sign of genetic health in their faces. It's not something that's "trendy" it is subconsciously hardwired in our brain which is proven as a fact. That's what the scientific research are all saying.

[@ivanmascot]

K, name truly beautiful famous person. And do you think he's attractive. Now pls name beautiful person, you aren't attracted to

[@HillbillyYEEHAA]

They're saying 7 because its not as insulting as calling someone a 5 or 6 lol But it's also not so far out as being 8 plus. I don't see the issue in being called a 6. I'm a 6 right now. My weight, my eyebrows, I need a haircut. I'm definitely not ugly... But I'm not a neck breaker 😂 and that's OK.

[@XavierXibalba]

The 1-10 scale is really 1-5 scale if you imagine 5 as 1 and 10 as 5. It makes all the ratings feel much more accurate

[@jungshookjiminie1176]

I've always felt uncomfortable when people complimented me on my looks because I know I'm average looking at best...🙂 but I also know they're just trying to be nice so I'm like "...thanks" 😀🙌 and just go on with my day😂

[@mightygdog2225]

If they weren't asked to rate you and went out of their way to compliment you then they probably actually think you were beautiful

[@Blkpll]

Pathetic humble brag

[@caitlink]

Sometimes your personality can boost your attractiveness. Your energy, mannerisms and quirks can all have a roll in being more attractive. There are different ways to look at beauty, that’s why it’s so hard to really judge it.

[@sab-nm9di]

For real. I just laugh and thank them. It didn’t matter if they were being genuine or not, I just can’t take it to heart to feel elated about it. It’s not even a self-love issue or anything, I just know I’m average looking and I’m at peace with that

[@sayno8685]

I just looked at them awkwardly and answer yeah or thanks. I don't really like people complimenting me, it always feel like they do it because they pity me. Who wants to be treated like little babies??

[@dikhed1983]

You're talking about attractiveness in an objective sense; most of the raters on here are ranking subjectively. Nothing wrong with that, there are people who are not objectively attractive that you may personally find attractive also. Also the line about there being less plus size male models than female because men are "visual creatures" doesn't sit right with me. Women are a bigger target by the fashion industry, and what is profitable right now is self acceptance and body diversity representation. The male fashion industry is just behind. Many men don't want to admit that they are hurt by the standards set for male bodies. They're still trying to attain them, or get depressed when they can't. I believe we will see more representation for men in the future, even if it's only for profit.

[@redacted461]

Fat women are delusional and suffer from self hate that's why they call themselves plus size instead of fat. They created fancy cute terms to avoid saying the f word. If you also noticed men don't have these cute fancy alternative words for "fat" . There's no plus size men. There's just fat men.

[@4yoon]

regional standards were a mindfuck to me. i think i’m average and in my home state i didn’t get many compliments but when i moved, i noticed people staring at me and i literally got multiple compliments at work every single day. it was jarring tbh LOL.

[@basewho5230]

That's really interesting

[@missmia196]

From where to where?

[@4yoon]

@@missmia196 ga to sc

[@aurorarockman9389]

Omg yes I spent a semester in Budapest and I was the ugliest woman in the entire MALL!! Definitely a jarring experience.

[@JustAnotherYoutubeHandle666]

I think QOVES missed a BIG part of American culture in the rating system since Australian schools do it slightly differently. In American schools, a 50 out of 100 is an F for failing, 60s is poor or a D, a 70 is a C- and is considered, passable but just barely. A 75 is considered satisfactory. An 80+ is Good and 90+ is excellent. These people, being Americans, are using a scale similar to our school grading system. Thus calling someone a 7 out of 10 is just calling them barely satisfactory and a 7.5 out of 10 is probably average. If someone got below a 5 out of 10 then they must have something seriously bad going on and 9s would be reserved for models. However, these people were absolutely pandering with their ratings.

[@neonsamurai4604]

I’m American and when using the 5-10 scale 5 is always average. The reason they use 7 is because it’s high enough to be attractive but not too much to feel like ur being narcissistic. It’s like a humble brag.

[@JustAnotherYoutubeHandle666]

@@neonsamurai4604 Did you get a 50 in school tests a lot? If yes then you didn't graduate. 60 is passing but poor, 70 is satisfactory, 80 is good, 90 is excellent. That's what it says on report cards.

[@Mycenaea]

People do the same in countries that don't use that grading system, so it doesn't hold up.

[@JustAnotherYoutubeHandle666]

@@Mycenaea Proof?

[@user-pm2zv9fs5r]

as an american, i'd say that in my own experience, people definitely know 7 is on the better side. i swear even if u put those people in a room with a model who was rated as a 7, the majority of the people in the room would still vote themselves above 5.

[@User4556-i7x]

“There’s nothing wrong with being unattractive” i needed to hear that to move forward, i really like this channel for some reason.

[@youngman6355]

People mostly avoid being honest because they're afraid of a negative reaction or confrontation in general. They'd rather be dishonest to please someone else and make themselves feel good (virtue signalling) rather than be honest and help someone who's living in their own pocket dimension because of how many people lie to them.

[@sodagoth]

i think there is a significant difference between general attractiveness (what they're rating) and visual attractiveness (what you're rating). it makes sense that they are factoring in confidence, style, attitude etc because those are all perceivable but not necessarily physical qualities that people can subjectively find attractive. your rating of their visual/physical attractiveness is a lot more objective - while they are rating the attractiveness of the person, you're rating the attractiveness of the body. and i think it's fair in either way to just refer to it as "attractiveness" because when you meet a person, all of these other things are factored into your perception of them and wether or not that perceived person is attractive to them, rather than just reducing their impression to the attractiveness of the body. i think it's important to tell these two apart

[@hirsch4155]

Best comment... it’s possible to be irrational but at the same time perceive something as attractive. Absolute perception doesn’t take into account reason or objective laws that have been handed down to us. This is really hard to get one’s head around. The videos on this channel are very rational. But they don’t take into account the irrationality of the perception of someone’s attractiveness. Which can be entirely empirical and not rational. That is, based on experience and in a state of flux. Let’s say you find someone attractive and you give a bunch of reasons based on your own observation. You give them a 7 and you give your reasons. That’s being empirical, not rational. It could be seen as irrational because someone would point out that they have many flaws, crooked teeth, thin hair, blemished skin, etc etc, maybe the only thing they have unflawed is their eyes plus they have a great a**. You’re absolute perception sees them as attractive because you are fulfilled by observing their redeeming features. But they are not attractive in the rational sense. The problem with insisting someone is unattractive is not that that is untrue in the rational sense, but that it could lead people to “freeze frame” themselves in a certain way that doesn’t allow them to feel their own power in how they could be perceived in an irrational way as attractive. Don’t know if this makes sense 😂😂😂

[@sodagoth]

@@done1961 that’s such an unattractive thing to say

[@Ellie-bj2uw]

@@done1961 you can't either.

[@redbenada798]

The replies to some of these comments are concerning. I watch this channel because I find the content interesting but it’s pretty evident that it attracts people with toxic mindsets

[@sodagoth]

@@redbenada798 agreed omg

[@TheCarlScharnberg]

"What's the point of having *words*"? LOOOOL! I feel ya, brother.

[@treehugger9070]

I know there is the scientific standard of beauty but to be honest as an individual I definitely find a majority of people attractive, it comes with a lot of time of deconstructing our modern beauty standards and seeing all the beauty standards that have ever existed. So I don’t entirely agree with what you have to say.

[@thelonercoder5816]

well you aren't the average person but an exception to the rule. I don't like post modernity and prefer there to be objective standards, which there are objective evolutionary-biological beauty standards.. some things are just plainly inherent in us based on our survival as a species or gender. Obviously, it can vary a bit by culture and ethnicity.

[@amdiary7]

I agree with you.

[@bjosey855]

I just have terrible eyesight which makes 6s look like 15s lol. I put on my glasses and I see the ugly lol.

[@averageatbest6917]

Literally me. I find a lot of people attractive and a lot of people beautiful/handsome. I hardly find myself saying someone is ugly. That’s why something as vague as attractive and beauty is a hard topic because at the end of the day it’s more subjective than objective. And when you start looking at people without society’s beauty standards and expectations (not saying having standards and expectations are bad) you tend to find more beauty in the people you come across, you start to find beauty in the “flaws” people are born with.

[@Jeseabell]

@@thelonercoder5816 that's not true at all. Beauty standards have drastically changed through out history and cultures. In Japan it used to be attractive to paint your teeth black, in Europe being plus sized was actually more desirable cause it showed you had money.

[@goatelement]

this channel is a such a precious drop of goodhearted realism in todays world full of wooden houses with brick pattern painted on them. Thank you and please keep doing what you do!

[@Luciene3]

Everyone in that video was a 4-5 at best not counting the Asian lady in the brown skirt. She’s a cutie to me

[@irrelevance3859]

Asian girl was definitely the most attractive i’d give her an honest 7

[@cookiesarelikecream]

Yeah the Asian lady was attractive however I didn’t like her fashion sense it doesn’t flatter her body

[@tzyagamalyezer5983]

@@irrelevance3859 same haha everyone else was slightly below average imo

[@sotothecreator]

lying to people hurts them more than telling the truth. Delusional confidence is a posion

[@McqueefIi]

Nah, some ppl rather hear lies than truths.

[@anjdjeo]

This narrator has such an attractive voice I am now genuinely interested in what he looks like😄

[@juliacaro1403]

Could you maybe do a list of AI generated faces with an accurate rating on the 1-10 attractiveness scale in a video? Maybe AI generated faces so no one will get offended?

[@caitthecat]

Or just choose real faces that have been given an honest rating by multiple people.

[@wheelzwheela]

2:34 BS warning 2:51 Goblin doesn’t bode well for character qualities… or attractiveness.

[@itsgonnabeanaurfromme]

Sheer stupidity of already identifying as a woman but adding the part about genderqueer to make herself sound more interesting.

[@ECytchannel]

The way I look at it: - the 0/10 - 10/10 scale is flawed and missing. - most people don't know the difference between objective attractiveness and potential attractive. That is why *I* have a more accurate grading of: ➡️0/30 - 30/30 -meaning from 0 to 10 is the ugly zone, from 11 to 20 is the average zone and from 21 to 30 is the beautiful zone. When it comes to potential attractiveness, It's about taking care of your health and exercise your body to not be too skinny or fat. Some people have really great faces but it was completely destroyed by years of bad diet and lack of vitality. cba explain if you know you know.

[@kgty1295]

Wow I like this scale. Mind if I use it?

[@itsgonnabeanaurfromme]

Pretty stupid scale because you still used the same system but added more increments.

[@AuroraAce.]

you only need 0 and 1 everything else doesn't matter.

[@jnorthe]

@@AuroraAce. lol

[@GastropodGaming2006]

-5 to +5 works better, since, if you use multiplier in the math, you can take into account the halo effect & what i like to call the "horns" effect.

[@shboomgirl]

There's a difference between "rating attractiveness" and "rating how well someone fits the current western beauty standard" though. Attractiveness is subjective as is shown by the fact that often people will find their friends more attractive over time (because they grow fonder of them and thus rate their attractiveness higher). AND if you look at what the beauty standards were during different times / in different cultures it's very apparent that they, too are socially constructed and thus also subjective. Think about the women who plucked out their hairline because during the Renaissance giant foreheads were super attractive or how in Mauritania fat women are considered the most desirable.

[@YourWingmam]

Excellent assessment and I appreciate your directness.

[@Suebee29]

Attractiveness is extremely different from objective beauty. I have seen plenty of plain people who have a charismatic personality that makes them wildly attractive. Even though looking at their pictures, you wouldn’t cast them a second glance. There’s a lot more that goes into creating attraction and desire than just objective beauty.

[@done1961]

You’re falling for the Halo effect. Attractive people are more likely to be viewed as having positive traits, and vice verse for ugly propel. So what’s happening is, person is attractive, they do stuff, you go wow what an amazing personality it makes me so attracted to them. But it was their looks that preceded it, even if you didn’t consciously register them as good looking initially

[@babbie3892]

@@done1961 I disagree. Some people are quite average in appearence, and have other traits that elevate their attractiveness completely (What the original comment was saying). This is different to the Halo effect, and is the reason why we see so many celebrities getting called attractive who aren't that objectively good-looking. An example for me would be Justin Bieber, who is not ugly by any means but is not exceptionally handsome either. However, due to his outstanding talent, he still gets tons of praise for being attractive.

[@done1961]

@@babbie3892 Nah he definitely qualifies as classically good looking and his fame/status merely elevated it. The trick is that he was attractive to begin with and it increased. Rarely does average become beautiful

[@babbie3892]

@@done1961 Fair. Maybe Jesse Rutherford (The Neighbourhood) or Alex Turner (Arctic Monkeys) are better examples, both of which are lead singers in their bands. They get positive attention from the female fans (being one myself) despite not being that great looking. Or currently, a more popular (and controversial) example would be BTS, with certain members being rated quite poorly on Reddit in r/trueratecelebs (standout to me being the leader Namjoon, receiving anywhere from 3-5.5) and they have been discussed and sort of ridiculed by a lot of people for their highly effeminate appearence. However, despite this, even the more "unattractive" members are still is considered attractive to their largely female fan base, highly due to their talent and behaviour.

[@done1961]

@@babbie3892 Fair enough but I’d question if those women have genuine SEXUAL and physical attraction to him. Or if it’s more nuanced. Like would they really wanna jump his bones when alone with him? I think they’d prefer to talk about his music etc. so I guess we disagree on what attraction is. I’m talking physical. I also disagree it’s his “talent” or “personality” that makes him attractive. Take him without all the fame and status and put him in your local bar playing, he doesn’t seem half as attractive. It saddens me that women constantly conflate status with personality or talent. I do however agree people can become more attractive but it’s generally men in the eyes of females due to fame, status, or power. And I’m not sure that’s even genuine sexual attraction. More socially acceptable words are personality, and kindness. But that’s all bullshit, you seem too smart for that.

[@wunder1385]

If we keep telling everyone they are a 7, they will think they deserve a partner that's a 7 and they don't want to settle for much less. So many people will end up miserable. Rating someone a 7 who is a 5 is really just selfish to avoid confrontation.

[@rupertnikolson2729]

Your statement is based on the assumption that people are choosing their partner only based on appearance which I highly doubt.

[@mrdouche9172]

A fat wallet, a lambo and a yacht would bump that delusional 5 to an actual 10.

[@janisozolins8004]

@@rupertnikolson2729 Yes, but usually people date their own league and if they do occasionally date really ugly people then the dynamic of the dating is on the side where the attractive person can do things they wouldnt ever do with a person their own league because they would just leave but they can afford to do to a person thats worshipping them. thats why celebrities usually date celebrities. because of this dynamic.

[@rupertnikolson2729]

@@janisozolins8004 Definitely true. But is this really a question of looks? I would argue that said phenomenon is rather caused by discrepancies in wealth / status (appearance certainly influences status but is merely one aspect)

[@janisozolins8004]

@@rupertnikolson2729 yes, i definately agree. not just one parameter but all the socioeconomic values influence this but looks are definately part of it especially for young people. I think a lot of people whose love didn’t recriprocate are really unhappy not because you can’t find a person with the same personality ever again but because their looks are subpar and they just don’t have the extreme circles that popular and attractive people have. Look celebrities are mostly dating one after another. And im not saying I haven’t had a person that i really like that i’m so infatuated with that i think i won’t find another one like them and they are perfect but do you really need someone with the exact same personality? In my opinion at one point you get tired of it and you would rather have a person who likes you too. Sorry went really off topic.

[@strictlyaesthetic9202]

This explains everything....... We now live in a world in which everyone strives to be AVERAGE...... If you happen to excel higher than average........ You will now deal with attempts of individuals whose only purpose is to drag you down...... Stay strong my people. NEVER FOLLOW....... Its what we do......

[@chasegainsovahoes663]

Yo bro you got any tips on feeling my posture muscles when doing seated rows? Thank you god bless🙏🏾

[@Mina-rc9zl]

honestly speaking, this guy could talk for hours about anything and i would listen, his voice is so attractive and calming, the way he speaks is like a melody to my ears, its so smooth, soft spoken, montone at times and calm, its so refreshing. i love the channel's vibe its so classy and clean, the font the in the videos, the editing its all done in such a clean and aesthetically pleasing manner, all these things really make me want to stick around and watch the video. you have a new subscriber :)

[@itsclairewest]

I love this guy’s brutal honesty. So refreshing!!

[@lilly8803]

I really appreciate and enjoy the candid commentary in this video. I’d love to see more video analyses like this!

[@ironsnowflake1076]

Well, it takes a certain kind of person to be searingly honest while looking into someone's eyes.....so this was never going to be accurate.

[@Tigerheiress]

Ive been called everything from hideous to ugly to beautiful to stunning so i genuinely dont know and frankly dont care anymore i just live. These videos are usually not maybe that honest, but people are at least being KIND. With how evil and how mean the internet is, im fine with people being somewhat kind

[@pia1945]

It’s hard to make beauty objective though :( Like I know this channel employs a scientific, empirical, objective approach to analyzing beauty but it’s still based on perceptions and taste and how human society has generally become accustomed to identifying what is beauty. But it doesn’t account for individual preferences or the other factors that contribute to one’s attractiveness such as confidence I think this guy just has cognitive dissonance because his whole channel is dedicated to objectively analyzing attractiveness but I truly believe preferences exist and one’s personality (suave, confidence, composure) really adds to someone’s attractiveness Also I don’t think i’m exhibiting toxic positivity. I find all human faces interesting in its own way and there are people who aren’t generally regarded as beautiful whom I’m enthralled by.

[@katitadeb]

I totally agree, there's so many people out there that don't have chiseled Jaws and narrow eyes, many if the attractive people who fit that standard are not that beautiful tbh, some are actually creepy looking

[@amdiary7]

You are absolutely right.

[@iCupcakeMelaniex3]

Yup. For example, Bella Hadid has been said to be objectively the most beautiful woman in the world according to science; and while she is pretty, I do not think she is all that. I think there are other women who I find prettier than her even though they are not movie stars like Bella. I think I find them attractive because I also know their personality, so they are more than just a basic pretty face.

[@rice0peach]

I think people are way too fixiated on beauty that they fall gullible to bullshit pseudoscience like this channel.

[@axx9149]

Nobody denies preference. This is more about probabilities. Of course you are always going to get outliers in everything, but beauty is not subjective. Literal babies differentiate between attractive and unattractive faces, it’s simply hard wired- there’s actually a whole part of the brain just dedicated to recognising and judging faces in that way. It doesn’t make it bad or wrong, it’s just human nature. Another thing is that most people think they’re the outlier and they don’t care about looks etc, when in reality, their actions say otherwise. As you would expect, there are only few outliers.

[@princessazula624]

In my view, people're focusing the positive feautures and giving compliments when they're looking at a mediocre person so they re giving 7 points. People're focusing the negative feautures and nitpicking when they're looking at a very attractive person so they re giving 8 points. Because the difference of between 7 and 8 is huge!

[@vickyoli]

I always say: depend the area. In where I live, physically I am a 7-8. In Miami or LA, probably a 5. When ppl tell me: you are a 9 or 10… BS, if that was true I’d be in Vogue or VS catwalk or so, and Im not, so. No. Im tired of toxic positivity.

[@shugochara9909]

thank you! this is what I've been saying forever especially in the age of social media and instant validation, not everyone is meant to be pretty ! and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. your value is not diminished because you are unattractive.

[@SlaySandz]

your commentary is on point. wondering if they edited out the more honest responses... I completely agree with you when you said that basically, many people are seeing attractiveness as good, ugliness as bad. what this is doing imo is placing a lot of value on appearance over everything else, and for everyone i also think it's interesting how people's answers of how they viewed themselves (when asked) were different... which shows how ppl's self-esteem can be connected to what (total) strangers think of them, not what they feel about themselves

[@GregoryTheGr8ster]

Not only is everyone attractive (at least a 7/10), but everyone wins first place and the gold medal in sports!

[@HaizeyWings]

Qoves having a nervous breakdown about inaccurate number ratings of attractiveness is so funny, but also I'm upset about it too! Why don't people understand numbers????

[@HaizeyWings]

@@riorio745 I understand your point and believe there's some truth to it (the grades part is not applicable to this situation and Qoves mentions why it this video), but I feel like you aren't taking into account how rare true 9s and 10s are. This would put the average back to 5-ish, between 3 and 8

[@tzyagamalyezer5983]

@@riorio745in the UK it is different for example, in a university degree, the highest grade you can get, a first class honours, is 70% and a bare minimum pass is 40% for most A levels, a pass is around 40-50% for GCSEs, a pass is maybe ~40%

[@booobooo1245]

I think the idea of "Rating attractiveness" is lost in between participants' pandering/innocence/kindness and QOVES' close-minded/too-academic perception. The problem with the people in the video is that they think the scale of 1-10 starts from 5 up to 10, hence 7 is average and 5 is ugly. QOVES mistake is thinking beauty is necessary = attractiveness -- and vice versa. (a 10/10 looking person could be 6/10 attractive if they're annoying or stupid. a 6/10 looking person could be 10/10 attractive if they're rich or successful/famous)

[@idrk1507]

Yeah because that's not the point of QOOVES. QOOVES only judges beauty, rather than attraction. He knows that attraction depends on other factors outside from beauty, but that's not the point of the channel- so the fact that he never says that, plus the fact that this isn't part of the channel, means he's not mistaken

[@cc20016]

I agree with you. Attractiveness is not always related to beauty. Heavily influenced by it? Yes, I would say a 75% of attractiveness is looks, but not the only thing to take into consideration. There are a lot of pretty people who are the opposite of attractive thanks to their personality traits or educative background.

[@booobooo1245]

@@idrk1507 Then maybe don’t react to a video about attractiveness if your channel is only about beauty. It’s not that hard.

[@idrk1507]

@@booobooo1245 You didn't reply to the main point of my comment yet instead resorted to a random, cliche' ''then maybe don't....'' that has nothing to do my comment, nor contributes to it. It reduces the credibility of your point (that you think he's mistaken) P.S. To respond to your reply anyway: like you said, QOOVES gives academic, factual information about beauty that doesn't take into account factors apart from beauty. Hence why QOOVES reacted to this video: simply, because everyone is lying. When people say ''rate me from 1 to 10'', it's common knowledge that they mean beauty, not attraction. In their defence, they weren't told to just talk about beauty- but that's only because it's not needed. It's common sense. And saying ''they didn't tell me to focus on beauty'' is a subtle way to justify their nice lies, whilst still being looking like a nice person in front of the camera. So again, QOOVES reacted because everyone else lied.

[@idrk1507]

@@cc20016 Couldn't have worded it better! I agree

[@SUPERTRASH_]

Wait a damn minute... WAIT A DAMN MINUTE. I literally never in my life have seen a plus size men model WHATTTTTTTT OH MY GOD..

[@tessavergissmeinnicht5142]

Same here and I never even realized it before

[@anarchsnark]

But you've seen plus sized male actors.

[@SUPERTRASH_]

@@tessavergissmeinnicht5142 right? I feel like i shouldve niticed as im a male myself its so weirdd..

[@SUPERTRASH_]

@@anarchsnark wellll not that many to be very honest, only ned from spiderman and doug from king of queens... idk why u would bring this up to my comment to be honest lmaooo

[@nstar1372]

Because men aren’t judged by their looks as harshly…so ofc you haven’t. Men can just exist and be fat as fuck lol

[@user-lo6nn8gh1e]

You should talk about the philosophy/psychology of beauty! This video reminded me that the Greek word for beauty, "kalos," also means "good" and "noble." Conversely, the Greek work for ugly, "kakos," also means bad, sinful, wicked, and base. The way these people tiptoe around objective rating (they invoke confidence, "vibe," anything but their true judgement of someone's physicality) shows that we still subconsciously associate beauty with goodness (consider: the halo effect), and ugliness with badness (consider: Republicans belitting Hillary's voice, Democrats belitting Trump's skin tone). I bet this association runs very deep, and that since few people are aware of it, they are therefore controlled by it. As another commenter noted, in the modern climate we flat-out gaslight an unattractive person who asks our opinion of their looks, because to tell them they are ugly (kakos) has become tantamount to telling them they are bad (kakos). To my way of thinking, this ludicrous flattery actually REINFORCES the ancient notion that what is beautiful is good, and what is ugly is bad. To actually challenge this ideology, one would have to say "it's true, you are not beautiful, but you do not need to be, and you are just as good as someone beautiful." This approach puts value judgement back towards what the person can control (their actions, talents, and character) and pivots away from conflating beauty with goodness. Anyway please do a video on something like this, love the channel xx

[@amber6784]

I was about to comment at the end of the video that I honestly think that people are a 5/10 instead of a 7/10 but I’m glad you hit that point in the beginning I love how honest your videos are because I feel like people try to sugarcoat videos about appearances

[@burberryswitchblade2242]

The road we’re talking about is 5-10. Anything less falls into the ‚hideous’ bin (differences between 1s and 4s be damned), 5-6 is above ugly (so def not something someone wants to hear), 7-8 is ‚bearable to look at’ with 8s falling into ‚pretty’, 9s are objectively pretty, like can wake up and go to town pretty, 10s are bombshells (with the occasional ‚harhar 10s dont exist irl’ smartass comment). I blame the 1-10 grading system and the rise of influencers facetune/filters for the wack rating systems people seem to have.

[@HaizeyWings]

I'm confused, are you saying the rating criteria you're describing is accurate, or inaccurate?

[@burberryswitchblade2242]

@@HaizeyWings inaccurate, but commonly used

[@katpage9378]

10s are supposed to be perfect. They genuinely don’t seem to exist. Well maybe I’ve seen 4 in my entire life

[@HaizeyWings]

@@burberryswitchblade2242 Ohh I see, thank you for clarifying!

[@katpage9378]

@nofeline I disagree. There’s subjectivity to attractiveness when it comes to our personal perceptions, mostly due to differing life experiences, but at the end of the day there is a universal attractiveness. It’s grounded in science, more specifically what equals better health and chance of survival.

[@KaylaNoelle1]

Basing it on lived experience is most accurate in my experience. Even if people try to hide it or be politically correct their actions speak loudly. Personally, I would say I’m slightly above average but I get free stuff a lot, I have opportunities dropped in my lap, and people either compliment me a lot or act intimidated. I have been very shy and insecure for a lot of my life because I was bullied a lot as a child and confidence or lack of it doesn’t really make the huge difference people claim it does. I’ve been shy and barely dancing at the club and had people spot me across the room and make a beeline to ask me to dance. I’ve been rushing to work sweating and running with my head down and had people sprint to catch up and ask me out. Logically, I know I’m not that ugly little gremlin child anymore but I still have a hard time having any confidence. If you are shy and lack confidence and you are considered attractive people will just find it charming and idealize you for it OR they’ll assume that you are acting standoffish because you think you are better than them, THAT is a huge downside that’s bitten me in the ass a lot. I feel like I have to act really friendly, innocent, and sweet in public to compensate. And I know that my looks have room for improvement. I don’t like my chin/jaw they could be more feminine and my mouth is a bit small so I have buccal corridors when I smile. Thankfully I have decently full lips so having a small and round mouth isn’t bad if I’m not doing a toothy grin. I’d also like my eyes to be longer laterally and my nose to be refined, I will get a nose job because I need it for health reasons pretty badly. The worst part is that I want to act so the standards in everyday life don’t even compare. Like I might be the most attractive on a random downtown street but it’s completely different in an audition waiting room. 💀💀💀💀 kind of wish I didn’t fall in love with acting.

[@katpage9378]

Buccal corridors aren’t even necessarily bad. Weirdly enough I find them very attractive on some people. A mouth full of teeth from side to side can sometimes be very visually overwhelming and odd. Also having a small mouth can be feminine and doll-like so that isn’t necessarily bad either.

[@KaylaNoelle1]

@@katpage9378 That's really nice of you to say. I've always thought of it like Ashley from Best Dressed calls it, a "Wallace and Gromit smile" I thought it was hilarious because I also thought it looked like my smile when I saw that movie lmao

[@FushiguroMegumi79]

Best thing my parents did for my appearance was stop me from mouth breathing. Went through a period when I was like 3 or 4 where I started doing it for some reason and my mom would stop me every time she noticed. Eventually I got the idea that I shouldn’t until I have a cold or something (eventually got on allergy medication for seasonal stuffiness) and now It’s safe to say at the very least I avoided a weak chin and have a decent jawline. Definitely going to do the same when I have kids. They may not be 7/10s but at least they will not be hindered by traits that were environmental and avoidable

[@Idkusername1234]

Bro I was so used to you speaking so formally and seriously that it was so funny to hear you become honest and unhinged💀💀💀

[@sovereignstate6760]

I find it very irritating when people are extremely against societal beauty standards to the point where they seem delusional. Sometimes their whole "I dOn'T wAnT tO fOlLoW cOnVeNtIoNaL bEaUtY sTaNdArDs!" seems more like an excuse to me for them to avoid hurting someone's feelings and still try to come out looking morally superior, deep and sophisticated.

[@ehrlichgesagt863]

Bec this hole i dont wanna follow them is just trying to get into that positivity bubble. If somebody says they are a 3 they would just say " i am not followed the mass thats why they think i am not beautiful" but when somebody says its like "they say the truth" its just hiding the reality something we all like to do see vegans i never understood how somebody is 22 and doesnt know how meat is made but thats the result of ignorance being scared of what you could know would make your life harder.

[@foxtrot.uniform.charlie.ki2824]

How can you say 'average' or 'middle of the road' and call yourself a 7/10 ? Also how delusional are you if you think you are a 7 when your BMI and body fat percentage close to 40%?

[@930rgia]

I have always argued that a 5/10 is considered average, as you mentioned it is a bell curve average. 7/10 is not average, it is above average. While 10/10 is perfect, and I do not know if anyone is a true 10. However, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. One individuals rating of attractiveness will always be subjective to their own likes and qualms.

[@soyjoyy]

True. Appearance cannot be objectively attractive, its either trendy or not, and pretty much all body types and facial features, when society is given enough time, will, at one point, become popular to have.

[@Mewwykat]

Does anyone think that most of us became dull about beauty these days? Social media is full of photoshopping, makeup, lighting, and choosing the right fashion. That's why we don't know what the average person looks like anymore. There are lots of tips and tricks out there to make 4-5s into 7s. So the 4~7 becomes a blurred range. Whereas you need to be really skewed to be below a 3 and above an 8.

[@rorokun_1666]

If I was in this video I would do the same. You never know how neurotic someone is and how they will handle the truth. Personally if someone called me unattractive , it would linger in my head and make me feel bad. It’s complicated especially since it’s going on KZbin and everyone can see you call someone ugly to their face. It’s not a good look

[@allanmhanson]

WHY IS GENDER SO OVERRATED TODAY? How do you describe yourself: gender queer goblin. How do you describe yourself (00's): positive, energetic, confident, loud.

[@FromRAFL]

love you QOVES, it’s funny that y’all just posted this because I was just contemplating on how attractive I think I am- physically speaking. Totally did the whole “oh I think I’m a 6 or 7” 😂 but I think if I’m being objective, I sit somewhere in the 4-5 range. And it’s kinda nice honestly, kinda humbling. This was enlightening, love your content as always. Love from Oregon 💛🤗

[@white_tulip2189]

I think you are average, but I can only see your profile picture.

[@renzo9063]

I'm 3/4 way through, and this video is really messed up. The reasons why people thought they were unattractive were most probably wrong, and now they base their newly acquired attractivity on a completely wrong basis. I feel like this is actually very dangerous because obviously they are completely misjudging each other and in effect themselves as well. And the confidence thing is also completely stupid. Obviously, self-confidence doesn't mean overestimating one's abilities, but to know them well. And if I'm a 6 and present myself or demand a 10, that's not confidence but overestimation.

[@riaodh]

I hollered when they gave the gender queer goblin and fat woman a 7 and the yellow hoodie guy a 6.5. Ridiculous.

[@carlinjames9475]

Ya I feel like this channel is for me. Everything you’re describing is exactly how I felt. Nobody was genuine or atleast objectively honest. And the people who were rating. Didn’t wanna get cancelled so they were giving the bigger girl the higher ratings as pity ratings. I do get that it’s hard to hear truth sometimes but I feel like it actually has tons of benefits

[@sherr0ne.sh1r04]

I love the evolution of this channel! from bringing tangible statistics on attractiveness to actually putting the said research to real use. I would pay you money to be in my cosmetic revision room just so you can help the doctor to be brutally honest w me😅

[@sherr0ne.sh1r04]

If you ever decide to set up a brutally honest camp, just know that I volunteer as tribute😅

[@essah4161]

Honestly I always found this rating the appearance an issue. Like I think that even when you think you are not attractive you should totally embrace the opposite. I just think that someone out there will find you attractive no matter what society holds as a standard. You dont go in a museum and try to rate paintings do you? A lot will not resonate with you but some will. Of course we can do lot of things to better ourselves appearance wise like working out and getting a good night of sleep and so on. But certain feature are just like how they are you know. See yourself as an unique piece of art. This might be an unpopular opinion especially in this community but I just think the numbers game here are just redundant.

[@azlyri]

Analyze Monica Bellucci's face.

[@josephmowers4314]

this video has taught me that i am a 5, and i think i'm ok with that.

[@balasavenedintulashabalbeoriwe]

What kind of road we are talking about is the US grade system. 70% is a C which is average so people think 7 is average in the US on a scale of 1-10.

[@starboyphanha]

Talking about the philosophy of beauty is soooooo interesting for me beauty is simply a person who is healthy

[@parli6659]

My brother told me "when everyone wants to be unique they become the same" everone can't be gorgeous that is the reason they are model's because they are unique and rare!! If everyone is a 10 it becomes a contribution trophy,there is nothing wrong with being unattractive or average if people come to terms with how they really look i think they can upgrade and (maybe have a glow up) work out and dress better. I did. I used to think I'm like a top tier girl but thank God for my dad, when I was 16 he sat me down and told me i was getting overweight and that I'm not all that. And I'm grateful for his honesty!!! I was very hurt at that time and even hated him for a bit but now that I've lost 38 lbs and have an average body 5 years later I think I elevated my looks (finding a fashion aesthetic that fits me also helped) I thank my dad for his honesty more than the friends who cared about my feelings. I wish people will be honest to others about their looks and give them the chance to improve.

[@princessazula624]

If you pretend honestly when it comes to beauty, most people won't be friend with you. Most people prefer being a friend with who gives compliments and makes feel comfortable.