Qu'est-ce que c'est degueulasse?

[@captaindebrand1861]

Degueulasse means disgusting, revolting, swinish...not puke, not bitch, not scumbag.

[@lcascone86]

@Jelios01 dégueulasse means disgusting! that's it! "Gueule" means throat so in french is something that has to do with taste, simply like disgusting... and its not "slang", its part of the normal vocaubulary

[@goback3spaces]

Getting off the Degueulasse thing for a moment, I just want to say that the music in this last scene is some of the best movie music I've ever heard. It's sad, romantic, thrilling, cinematic and beautiful. God, is this a great movie.

[@Jelios]

from a french "Déguelasse" is a french slang word, a little bit difficult to translate, ... bastard, rotten, rotten bastard, he's a real shit,... ( little bitch or scumbag can also work here too but...) and for me: disgusting is more appropriate for a thing, a fact than a feeling or a state of mind

[@Nakewi]

I think it's too difficult to translate. I am french and I saw this movie with my friends. We didn't understand the same thing. "Je suis dégueulasse" : Michel understands that his crimes are disgusting and that's why he didn't leave Paris and wait the police. "C'est dégueulasse" : This situation should have been better, it's disgusting. "Tu es dégueulasse" : Bitch ! Why have you denounced me ? Sorry if I made any mistakes.

[@BouncyTolstoi]

"C'est dégueulasse" is a well-spread expression in colloquial French. It is used to point out the seemingly unfairness of a situation, or of a decision that fell upon you. For example, if you were punished at school without a proper/alleged reason, you could exclaim "Mais c'est dégueulasse !".

[@thefelicits]

I kind of feel like the controversy comes from translators taking too many liberties. It seems to be pretty clearly 'It's disgusting.' 'What did he say?' 'He said you're disgusting' 'What does 'disgusting' mean?'

[@Rachegotter]

Well, I'm French. He says "c'est vraiment dégueulasse", which the voice off erroneously repeats as "t'es vraiment dégueulasse". The former means "it's truly disgusting", the latter "you're truly disgusting".

[@Jelios]

@lcascone86 "a person can be disguting like a food" yes Icascone I agree, that why, in french we can use this word "deguelasse" for a person or a fact. (son of a bitch, bastard,...) is just for give an idea of the meaning because in french, say "deguelasse" for somebody means a little more than "a bad taste like a food"

[@stumpy457]

@wiatomlo, I think it also plays on the fact that Patricia is American, so may not know all the French slang. But yeah, it's not that hard to translate, it's more a matter of, 'Why did that happen in the film?'

[@tsntana]

@Jelios01 That being the case, why don't they just sub it in quotes? I'm/You're a "déguelasse". What's a "déguelasse"? I think this would make more sense in the translation instead of trying to translate a slang word.

[@cedrickrajotte7612]

So much confusion here. He says: "J'suis vraiment degeulasse" (listen again if you think he says "C'est vraiment degeulasse". That's what I heard first too, but then you can clearly hear "J'suis). So that translates as "I'm really disgusting" as a statement, not as a question to Patricia as somebody else suggested. Then she asks what he said and the policeman turns it around on her reporting he said that SHE is the disgusting one. Then she asks what "degeulasse" (disgusting) means.

[@cedrickrajotte7612]

C'est vraiment dure à dire. J'ai la version Blu-Ray avec la track sonore plus claire et c'est vraiment difficile d'en être certain. "J'suis vraiment dégeulasse" vs. "C'est vraiment dégeulasse". Je remet en doute, mais tu as peut-être raison.

[@cedrickrajotte7612]

Je sais, mais reste que le débat existe quand même. Regarde sur les forums du film, aussi sur Wiki et sur IMDB, où l'on soulève la question. Ça changerait tout de même complètement le sens de la fin. Le personnage étant amoral et incapable de s'auto critiquer dira "C'est vraiment dégeulasse" pour décrire la situation car il ne se blâmera pas lui-même. Si, au contraire, il dit "J'suis vraiment dégeulasse", ça démontrerait un changement moral, un certain remord. Dans tous les cas, il ne dit certainement pas "T'es vraiment dégeulasse" comme on peut lire sur les sous-titres.

[@Jelios]

the three faces are like a farewell he forgive her. It's something intimate between Michel and Patricia from the scene of the hotel room.

[@ZootAlours]

@CrazedAfroninja to clarify I know degueulasse is literally "disgusting," but I think the concept is best expressed in English this way.

[@lcascone86]

@Jelios01 Yes... we are saying pretty much the same thing eheh I mean i just wanted to say that in English you can say disgusting to a person and you have the same meaning of dégueulasse... that is why i dont understand why three different translations for this scene of à bout de souffle

[@Jelios]

@tsntana Yes I agree, tsntana that why I watch movie in the originally spoken if I can understand it's better than trying to translate. I ve write a comment about the translation just because a lot of people spoke about that on this page.

[@JayFingers]

@chimpcadet I, too, studied "Breathless" in film school and the closing dialogue was the topic of a MAJOR discussion.

[@gokinsmen]

@wiatomlo I could also live with a less literal, more poetic translation like: "Life's a bitch." "What did he say?" "He said,'You're a bitch.' (déguellasse)" "What's a déguellasse?"

[@Jelios]

I am french and Michel (jean paul belmondo) said:" I AM...." the police man answer to patricia (jean seberg) said: "you are..."

[@Jelios]

@Jelios01 you can use deguelasse for a fact too. It's deguelasse to do that. (it s nt nice^^)

[@LeGrippe]

I hear "Chuis [je suis] vraiment dégueulasse."

[@DestinHumain]

Ce qui est dit : - Je suis vraiment dégueulasse - Qu'est ce qu'il a dit ? - Il a dit : "vous êtes vraiment une dégueulasse" - Qu'est-ce que c'est "dégueulasse" Cela suppose que la traduction faite par l'homme hors champs soit volontairement mauvaise.

[@jessw11]

the last one's probably the closest. "degueulasse" is a french word that means "disgusting", but it's a lot more vulgar than that....we don't really have an equivalent in English, but "makes me puke" is pretty close

[@flannelogue]

thank you. i've been thinking that for years. always wondered why everyone had the need to translate their interpretation of the events rather than go the literal route.

[@honeybunny181]

He definitely says "C'est" (It's) and not "Chui" (I am). I don't even think they say "chui" in France it's a very Quebec French "Joile" term. I am French and I am 100% sure he says "C'est". "Je suis" kills all the poetry of the line.

[@RAGE343]

I mean that in English, the last one makes the most sense. In the first clip, the cop just adds the last part and finishes his sentence for him, which seems a little silly. In the second, I suppose "It's a real scumbag" technically works, but typically one would say "he's/she's a real scumbag" or "they're real scumbags." You don't tend to call an inanimate object or abstract thought, which "it's" is used for," a "scumbag." Therefore the last one is the most gammatically correct, and believable.

[@QQWEERTTYUUI]

i love her haircut.

[@vinoberg]

I'm doing a paper on Breathless and I'll share a little secret with you folks: Michel was an existentialist. What he found disgusting was as soon as he realised he was destined to die he was finally able to live his own life rather than imitate a hollywood ideal (bogart, with the lip rub) but alas, almost as soon as he gets this understanding he was shot dead, and breathless. patricia misunderstands more than what he says: while he dies making playful faces she responds with the lip rub. enjoy.

[@vinoberg]

cantstaythesame: people love labelling, but hate being labelled. Truth be told Absurdism can almost be studied as a direct extension of Existentialism. Stress the "almost", because Camus' work was significant enough that if he wants his own subgenre he damn well deserves one. But absurdism is really getting at the same concept as Ex., in a different method. Camus wanted to distance himself from Ex. to emphasis this difference. Camus might as well have said he was an Absurdist, not an Algerian

[@lcascone86]

@Jelios01 Belmondo says : c'est vraiment dégueulasse ... not "chui vraiment.."

[@flyingneedle]

The beginning is muddled and ambiguous. "Dégueulasse" doesn't bother me as much as the fact that I don't even know what "c'est" is referring to in this case. Sometimes I'd like to think he says "elle," as in "it (life) is really disgusting." But that's more just my wishful thinking and it would be disregarding the sibilance at the beginning. Wouldn't it make so much more sense though (and correspond with the confusion between Seberg and the detective)? Too bad it's a reach.

[@vinoberg]

(continued) Godard changed this entire ending too, by the way. Truffaut (the writer) wrote: Jean-Luc chose a violent end because he was by nature sadder than I. He was in the depths of despair when he made that film. He needed to film death, and he had need of that particular ending Michel is a character obsessed with his future. Earlier, he returns a paper b/c it had 'no horoscope'. Famed French existentialist author, albert camus, died mere weeks before filming began, by the way.

[@Alenava]

the best film ever!!! O melhor filme!! Amo!

[@Jelios]

@lcascone86 all right

[@Alainlm]

actually he's asking "ch'uis vraiment dégueulasse ?" (slang for "Je suis vraiment dégueulasse ?"). The translation should be "Am I really disgusting?"

[@relyanddefy]

why does she say What does that mean?

[@xingsheng1]

Lost in translation, but I got it. Quite a mesmerizing ending.

[@tsntana]

@predlycon Pretty much what I said to Jelios01. And if they feel they must, before or after the movie (PLEASE not during the movie), give a little translator note about the word.

[@grafffio]

@wiatomlo Good one, apart from the to "l"s in dégueulasse, you got it right. But 'scumbag' fits pretty good too. Or "lousy"...

[@RAGE343]

I like the last version, it makes the most sense grammatically.

[@AXOU2203]

Eh bien non, en réécoutant, on ne saurait dire s'il dit "je" ou "tu", c'est aussi ce qui rend cette scène si fascinante. Toute l'ambiguïté de la nature féminine est dévoilée là. Elle a mal, elle est libre, elle est opaque quant à ce qui domine. Opaque, surtout à elle-même. Solal a signé une des plus belles bandes son jamais livrée. Gageons que cela sera revu et étudié dans un siècle, comme les Kubrick les Chaplin et les Welles.

[@lcascone86]

@Jelios01 that's weird, its the firs "youtube" discussion which didnt end up in insultin one another eheh

[@spl0uf]

"C'est vraiment dégueulasse" "Qu'est-ce qu'il a dit?" "Il a dit : 'vous êtes vraiment une dégueulasse'" "Qu'est-ce que c'est, 'dégueulasse'?"

[@paulparanoid]

i am 95% certain he says "je suis vraiment degeulasse". he says it in the colloquial, spoken manner where "je suis" is contracted to sound something like "schwee".

[@Jelios]

@lcascone86 excellent lol that's true ^^ take care bye icascone

[@2468ali]

ok, thanks... still I can't hear "c'est..." here. at all... sorry

[@ZootAlours]

my take on it has always been: Michel: This is a real bitch. Patricia: What did he say? Inspector: He said, you're a real bitch. Patricia: What's a bitch? (Not understanding the French word "degueulasse"?)

[@AtaGET]

C'est vraiment dégueulasse ...

[@lcascone86]

@Jelios01 yeah, but a person can be disgusting, like a food... Bastard is different from disgusting as Bâtarde is different from dégueulasse...

[@rodsaavedra]

did you know the 8 mile is based on a french movie from the 1960s? It's called huit kilometres. Search it up. Someone's posted it up on youtube. American thieves!!!!!

[@Bitteulze]

Is this ironic or do your really mean it ? Do you really think that "What's that mean 'puke' ?" makes sense grammatically ?

[@subtropolis]

J'ai vraiment dégueulasse. I'm really disgusting.

[@PreposterousMusic]

What ever it actually means. "you really are a little bitch" is the best. p.s fucking love this film

[@mackjay2]

I also hear "J'suis...." not "C'est...."

[@doesntpost]

the last one is the best

[@neonatacha]

why dont they translate "you are disgusting?"

[@bennyfromthe72]

@subtropolis Don't try to speak french if you don't know how to...

[@omarf.6780]

Excuse me! Godard not “Godrad”!

[@unclealand]

It really translates "Oh, Miss Girlfriend, you're so tacky."

[@paulparanoid]

There is no way he is saying "tu"! Listen to it! He says, "Chui vraiment degeulasse". The ambiguity / irony arises from the fact that the man repies, "Vous etes vraiment une degeulasse" -- which is NOT what Michel said... And Godard is, in fact, already regarded in the same category as Kubrik and Welles. Godard codified the very notion of "auteur" in cinematic theory, and French New Wave is a very important and influential movement in 20th century cinema.

[@lasaboteuse]

I've listened very closely and I'm convinced he's saying "C'est vraiment dégueulasse," not "T'es vraiment dégueulasse"-I hear a sibilant at the beginning.

[@aglieglie998]

@lostpinup look at the movie.

[@From305toSH]

he would have had prospects if he just gotten his damn money!

[@hammerjohnston]

It's the second one.

[@vpchipz]

Dégueulasse means disgusting

[@youllgrowonme]

sooo, what is he in fact saying... ?

[@fancynot]

...très interessant !

[@varanceL]

I love Godard

[@ItalianLightning]

Oh wow. In the version I watched in class h e just said, 'You're a real louse' and she said, 'What is louse'' and we spent such a long time attempting to understand what point point Truffaut was making with the word 'louse' should have guessed it was a translation error.

[@MlleHate]

Becca Di Francesco It's Godard!

[@srslypissedoff6490]

@@MlleHate Screenplay by Jean-Luc Godard Story by François Truffaut & Claude Chabrol

[@Alenava]

O melhor filme ... amo

[@Alkhir69]

Haha, no that's not it at all.

[@27MADBeats]

the first 20 secs is a meme templet

[@RAGE343]

@thewakz And you're not a person! Wait, then were both wrong.

[@boydougie1]

♥

[@mishasofia6091]

J'SUIS VRAIMENT DEGEULASSE

[@user-vh2pn2ty4d]

Misha Sofia 🙋🏼‍♀️🙋🏼‍♀️🙋🏼‍♀️🙋🏼‍♀️💔

[@robirenner]

hey thats great love this scene hate translations now ve to see all movies in 345678765 langiages to understand

[@0371998]

ouais le dernié ou l'avant dernié..il dit jsuis dégeulassse!!..jai pas vue le film encore pourquoi il dit cela...la femme est trop belle pour lui ?

[@honorepanisse1607]

Ame fifties

[@2468ali]

J'ai vu vraiment degueulasse! (I've seen real shit) - then he closes his eyes p.s. I'm very good at French and I have a perfect ear

[@KiersellMikean]

This is Jean-Luc Godrad not Truffaut

[@chantalou131]

GODARD, pas GODRAD.