HONDA ADV 350 , DRIVE JUDDER OR SQUEAL

[@Eldariooirad]

"Never throw your old tea towels away" Love that comment and loved your video, thank you very much!

[@Crohniebiker]

@@Eldariooirad thanks for watching, I appreciate it 👍

[@JDKSTUDIO1]

Of all the youtube video's this was the most helpful I ever needed to see. Riding in thailand and I was worried I bought a faulty bike. Saw this video and went to a Honda service center, asked to clean the gear box and bam.. Well done, thank you

[@Crohniebiker]

@@JDKSTUDIO1 your very welcome 🙏 thank you for watching.

[@RonniesRambles]

Very nice presentation. I had this issue with my Nmax about 18 months ago I went to the dealer because a friend had the issue in 2015 with his PCX but never said what the fix was. The dealer did basically an air 'wash' without the level of treatment you've done; mine had volumes more dust, they just laughed about it and I went away unhappy because I thought they dismissed a mechanical problem. It was good for a couple of weeks but then slowly crept in. Cleaned it again and they did a very detailed job on all the bits as I watched. It's a recurring problem that needs a proper solution. Even with a new belt it has come back again. Your video is top notch for teaching, and much admiration for your pride of ownership (cleanliness). Thanks for this, I'll have a look around and sub.

[@Crohniebiker]

@RonniesRambles thanks for your comment, I'm glad I could help with this unfortunate problem 👍

[@Shagnasty-bo5bj]

I had the same problem when I first purchased my used 14000 mile 2001 NSS250 Honda Reflex. At that time I had owned nothing but motorcycles and had little to no knowledge of CVT bikes or scooters. On take off it had a horrible shutter, from takeoff to around 12 mph, and sometimes a loud squeal only on acceleration up through 35 or 40 mph. An aftermarket racing clutch and matching clutch bell solved my shutter problem and a new Bando factory drive belt solved the sqealing problem. Previouse owner had put a cheap Chinese drive belt on it. Also dumped the rollers for sliders in the variator.

[@lesmaybury793]

Very good instructional video. Concetningvthe torque settings, I look for them before removing the nuts/bolts. If they are not available simply mark the positions of the nuts/bolts to get them back to the same pisition, similar to matching the paint marks as shown here.

[@Crohniebiker]

@lesmaybury793 thanks I'm glad to help 👍

[@johnlaw3323]

Brilliant video many thanks for making and sharing.

[@shardlake]

Having just got a Forza, good to know, looks to be just dust from natural wear of the belt and clutch plates. Great vid, one to follow if/when any get similar issue.

[@Crohniebiker]

Thanks for watching 👀

[@charliedock2621]

Thank you it's a very useful film. I have had the same problem with my PCX in Thailand is very difficult to explain to them and then to me armed with this knowledge might have a better chance of explaining to a Thai

[@urbanfireblade]

I had to do this to my Honda SH300i Scooter after 4,500 miles, purchased it from a dealer used. It was screeching/chirping every time i pulled away from standstill. Lots of dust. Clutch shoes also need roughing up with a bit of wet and dry, same for the bell house, been fine every since. Apparently too many soft pull aways from standstill can start to glaze the clutch shoes then it's a continuous cycle as it gets worse and heat builds up blueing the bell house as the shoes slip.

[@m2menuiserie540]

Great video. Just one Q: At 6:40 what on earth is a 'Scotchy up' for the pulley plate? Broth? Whisky? Please forgive a dumb question.

[@Crohniebiker]

@m2menuiserie540 haha 😄 it's just scotch bright abrasive pads. They take the sheen off like sand paper but much less abrasive 👍

[@m2menuiserie540]

@@Crohniebiker Aaaahhh. Thanks for that. Makes sense. As Head of Washing-Up in my household I should have guessed.

[@KennethSwaby-j9d]

Thanks for showing this. Very comprehensive 👍👍👍👏👏👏

[@chrisc9376]

What I use to once a year was to blow that area out with a air line I included it in the service as I do all my own servicing, pick my new adv on Tuesday, from where you got yours from.

[@Crohniebiker]

I think I will be doing the same thing from now on 👍

[@saxon73]

Thanks for vid , worked a treat for about 400 miles but started to groan again , no judder just the groan , so took apart again , obviously still clean in there but rubbed and cleaned the clutch plates with a bit more vigor , put it back together and perfect again ,so can only assume the plates are bad or contaminated , anyway orderd the malossi upgrade to fix once and for all !

[@Crohniebiker]

@saxon73 thanks for your comments and glad to help

[@robpoole2393]

How did the malosi kit work out, did it improve things?

[@Saturntabbytype2]

15 gram rollers tweak the torque nicely on take off 0-100km in6.8 second ,with no affect at top speed.remove the inner tube in side air box and fit a land n air filter,for razor sharp handling and acceleration

[@nexusapp]

Thank you for sharing, Great work.

[@nostromo737]

That was one of the best HowTo vidio’s I’ve seen. Thank you, the mystery behind the casing revealed.

[@dalewintle8099]

Great simple explanation , well done bud 👍

[@Crohniebiker]

Thanks very much 😀

[@chriscarlin8091]

Very interesting and well explained.

[@Crohniebiker]

Thanks for watching 👍

[@yorkshiremanphil219]

Excellent video very informative I pick my new one up next week I like to do all my own maintenance so this was very interesting 👍👍

[@Crohniebiker]

Thanks for watching I appreciate it 👍

[@glenntaylor8315]

Great video..thx for taking the time to share. I am sure we will all be doing this job at some point.

[@inquisitive1911]

Very helpful video and very well explained. Thanks. Love from Scotland, ❤ X ...

[@Crohniebiker]

@inquisitive1911 thank you for watching. I appreciate it 👍

[@stevellewellyn7192]

Nicely done. Thanks for that, really useful.

[@Crohniebiker]

@stevellewellyn7192 thanks for watching 👍

[@allyoulikeph5120]

You shouldn't use a torque wrench for loosening

[@krisspiteri9865]

Thanks for sharing Good to know 👍

[@ramilrosuello1053]

Add 1mm washer between Pulley and Drive Face.. Change the.. Clutch at Center Spring into 1800RPM Re Angle Pulley and Drive / 13.5 degree 15/16 grams combination of Ply Ball Give’s you more Torque and accelaration And also Great Top speed👍☝️💪

[@ericflatman9565]

Hi, am interested In an adv350. I have a 400 burger so how do you find the performance against the burger....top speed and acceleration. enjoyed the video. Ps seems a lot easier to get to the drive without having to take loads of plastic off. Cheers, Eric

[@Crohniebiker]

Hi I also had a burgman 400 but the older one. I can say the ADV350 beats it on performance and handling but the burger us more comfortable and better weather protection.

[@sparkmeister4706]

I don't have this bike but i'm interested in one. hence watching some videos. This is surprising to see but isnt this part of a service schedule with honda?

[@Crohniebiker]

@sparkmeister4706 yes I think it us part of the service because shortly after making the video I look the bike in for its annual service plan 6000miles I think 🤔 during the service they changed the belt so I can assume they clean it all out at the same time 👍

[@sparkmeister4706]

@@Crohniebiker I thought about the belt being changed aswell :)

[@farmoboy83]

On wet weather its more noticeable. My sh300i with 50000miles also do that and already changed clutch. You clean it, judger disapeers and after a few miles is there again. Annoying at low speed but once the belt and clutch warms up its gone.

[@Crohniebiker]

Yes I did find it was better once it warms a bit . I'll have see how it goes once I've done a few more hours o it . Thanks for watching 👍

[@darewinder]

Hey man nice job. I had the same exact problem at about 9000kms. Cleaned it even replaced the rollers but the problem came back 500 kms later :( any tips

[@Crohniebiker]

@darewinder mine is at 17000kms now and sure enough it's come back. I think regular maintenance and cleaning out is the only remedy, unfortunately 🤔

[@darewinder]

@ yea.. i think se should seperate the clutch assemly and clean the clutch shoe internals maybe. I think the problem is cheap clutch dust.. im thinking of getting malossi maxifly clutch system maybe that will prolong it :/

[@Crohniebiker]

@darewinder yes I think that upgrading the clutch shoes and weights would help a lot .I've had scooters for years and this is the worst one for juddering.

[@sapte62]

Nice job there. Just get yourself some Dr. Pulley sliders, 10% lighter than your rollers are, and enjoy way longer service and better acc.

[@Crohniebiker]

@sapte62 thanks, I'll give them a try next time 👍

[@nattibrody]

@@Crohniebiker Light rollers, speed up faster, but do not reach maximum speed. Enjoy!👊

[@lippythelion]

At least it's a easier job than a burgman 400, thinking of getting a forza 350,what is ur height and inside leg measurements, is the seating position OK I am 6" 1'

[@Crohniebiker]

@lippythelion Hi, I'm 6'1" and it's OK really, my inside leg is 34" .I can go a few hundred miles in a day.

[@davidweller3991]

well explained, thanks

[@sideshow101101]

most of that muck is off the belt, get a cheap digital caliper and measure the belt is still in spec. also the rollers are consumables, they're cheap so just replace them.

[@mikees60]

125Nm for the variator nut. Well thats according to the adv polini instructions. Just a point, aren't the rollers orientation sensitive?

[@Crohniebiker]

Thanks for the info 👍 The rollers are just standard no left or right side that I could tell anyway 👍

[@saxon73]

I just done this and it's cured it 100% , I did the variator nut to 83nm and the clutch nut to 78nm. These are the listed torques from the Forza 300 workshop manual , Be nice to get a definitive answer but mine seems to be just fine . But the the other chap says 125nm so I'm not sure now

[@saxon73]

Oh and yes the rollers had an edge on them , which I noted almost like a little indentation right around one side , they matched with the blue pain points

[@herkko61]

Very good, thank you!

[@MrWmclydesdale]

Great video very helpfull , thanks for taking time to make it and share

[@Crohniebiker]

@@MrWmclydesdale glad you found it helpful. Thanks for watching 👍

[@guykedem54]

Any TSB from Honda on that?

[@davideccles1617]

I’ve had no issues at all with mine I love it just put an Arrow exhaust on it 😊

[@drdoolittle5724]

Brilliant, nicely done and you saved a fortune! BUT, am disappointed we should have to do this at such low mileage - just done 2500 myself and was thinking 'nothing to do for years, wrongly!'. Also, even though debris was a few grams, where did it come from and what future problems are around the corner????

[@Crohniebiker]

I believe it comes from the clutch shoes at the back and possibly just the rubbing up and down of the rollers at the front . Thanks for watching 👍

[@drdoolittle5724]

@@Crohniebiker Hopefully you might send the vid to Honda UK, it's concerning! I started with a twin 125 in the 60's, I still have a v twin 125 but they are traditional bikes, good as gold!

[@volt8684]

Did 30 k on my xmax 250 changed belt twice in life and rollers. Not this problem, it’s disgraceful Mr Honda - cheap clutch shoes

[@sG-hn1ef]

You did not seem well prepared for the job as didn't see next gasket fitted , air filter was not cleaned and torque settings your local dealer would of provided you with. When you finished using toque wrench always take the tension off other wise you can do damage to it with out using it and torque wrenchs are not designed to undo bolts with. BTW I'm a ex mechanic and have the experience and qualifications to back my experience up. Yes I did enjoy watching video as mate recently bought his brand new this year

[@kevinmurtagh3434]

I would have been exactly like this video

[@TheDervMan]

Yey 🔧😎

[@syMarcAn]

Download a service manual for torque settings, 😂

[@saxon73]

Easier said than done as there isn't one available!

[@mrpantur7280]

hurts my brain watching you do everything wrong and using an impact lol. never do that again! you'll be surprised how much damage you can do to the crankshaft thread and the clutch thread using an impact especially a air impact !!!!

[@Crohniebiker]

@mrpantur7280 it's OK because as you can see my compressor wasn't strong enough even to start undoing the nut .but thanks for your comments 👍

[@mrpantur7280]

@Crohniebiker fair enough just don't do it in future lol. Get a breaker bar and a torque wrench it's far cheaper than a new crankshaft or having a confident mechanic weld and tap new threads.

[@MusicMath123]

please use gloves. thank me later.

[@sG-hn1ef]

Why use gloves there was no grease and all the dirt found can be found on a roundv

[@Pawel5837]

I don't bother about it. I treat it as a squeaking brakes.