Quake 2 REMASTERED - CALL OF THE MACHINE REVIEW

THE QUAKE 2 REMASTER WAS REAL AND I GOT TO PLAY IT EARLY.
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[@ThatTravGuy]

Baklava is Turkish, dumbass.

[@erythrocytessocrates8840]

Nevertheless, still delicious

[@AlphaZeroX96]

What's that got to do with Quake 2?

[@Mclogenog]

level designer on Baklava here. I love your theory that it's named that because I was hungry 😂

[@abalyon7043]

TURKEY MENTİONED 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷💪💪💪🇹🇳🇹🇳🇹🇳🗣️🗣️🗣️

[@ThatTravGuy]

@@Mclogenog NO WAY

[@Tokumastu1]

The strogg unearthing the cosmic horrors of Quake 1 only to become its slaves and dooming the galaxy would be such a cool story. This would perfectly mix the body horror of Quake 2 with the Cosmic horror of Quake 1.

[@TGCitizen]

Actually, this is the current retconned story of Quake. In Quake Champions, there is lore jointing Quake 1 and 2/4, directly implying that Strogg are doing Strogg stuff, because of Lovecraftian horrors.

[@Supersonicspyro]

@@TGCitizen the only question that creates is quake 2 the future of quake 1? Or are there multiple earths in the quake universe?

[@TGCitizen]

@@Supersonicspyro More akin to Marvel Multiverse all connected through dreamlands.

[@AlexBeyman-j2h]

Like what happened with the UAC and Hell, except thanks to the Doom Slayer, we didn't lose to Hell

[@Khan93j]

@@TGCitizen also add the boss of quake 1 expansion Scourge of Armagon : "Armagon" could be easy a proto-strogg or even a first generation of makrons and explain the boxes in the first levels in quake 1

[@Eric_Nomad_Hixtone]

The connection between Quake 1 and 2 was hinted back in both with some small hints like why the more tech things are in Q1 or something weird in Q2 but also the developer of ID on the server of Champions said it's one timeline. And more so Champions straight said Makron was aware of Shub Niggurath, and some strogg are stuck in the Dreamland here. It was always the case so now it's only more connected than before

[@CatsOverdrive]

I'm actually disappointed of the connection here. Not the "they're part of the same world" part, but on the "Quake 1 enemies created/lords over Quake II enemies" part. I would like it more if the armies of of shub-demonetized and the strogg forces are two totally separate factions. As it allows for the potential W40k-like scenario, of these two big bad MF's squaring off each other. But then again, just like W40k, they could simply do a "necron" and have the Stroggs suddenly uprise/rebel against their otherworldly masters.

[@Eric_Nomad_Hixtone]

@@CatsOverdrive tbh i always thought the same. I liked the connection thingie in hints and in Champs/dev answers, and it was ok the both were aware of each other. But the fact Shab HAVE MADE the strogg waas very eh

[@samuelantoniocastillomeza5034]

First MGS announced to get a collection release and now a Quake 2 remaster. I feel like a kid again and ready for these amazing games. Quake 2 has of the best OSTs in a FPS. Sonic Mayhem did an amazing job, specially with the track Quad Machine.

[@wulfman15]

The Q2/3 soundtracks by Sonic Mayhem sent me down an Industrial music rabbit hole that has dominated my life since lol

[@raresmacovei8382]

Let's not forget about Resi 4 Remake, Dead Space Remake, Metroid Prime Remaster, System Shock Remake. We've fully into the Remake/Remaster era.

[@EvilNMessedUp]

I've always had the headcannon of the Strogg worshipping the monsters from Quake 1, so it's nice to see some connection finally made.

[@CritStanley]

Your headcanon was basically exactly what was revealed in Darkest Depths. :) Mine was simply the Strogg War happened after the Slipgate War. :P

[@TheCrimsonElite666]

The virgin vanilla Berserker -Most of his attacks were cut during development -Can easily be cheesed by baiting his attack -Generally a joke enemy best described as a weaker Doom pinky -Only real purpose is to be a bullet sponge The chad remastered Berserker -His cut attacks were restored, which includes a leaping smash and a running melee -Restored attacks means that he can no longer be baited to death -Now best described as a Doom pinky on steroids -Generally a bigger threat that will make you pay more attention to your surroundings

[@thewhyzer]

He can still be cheesed and baited as long as you stay close but outside the melee range. If he notices you while you're far enough away though, you're not escaping that jump attack (unless there's a huge vertical distance between you.)

[@chrisbgoodv2178]

You can jump as the berserker uses the ground smash to avoid it sometimes.

[@hugostiglitz491]

😂😂😂

[@christopherwall2121]

The only way they could make him more dangerous is if they gave him his AOE attack from Quake IV

[@mikes3909]

Their new campaign added to quake in 2021 also seemed to hint that the quake I reality and the strogg reality were linked. The “realm of the blacksmiths” might actually be stroggos before it went to full shit and the people became the strogg.

[@ZeallustImmortal]

One of my favorite parts of the remasters

[@shadekerensky3691]

The funny thing is that years ago, back when I was a kid playing Quake 2 in 2007 on my dad's desktop, I actually had a whole theory that the Strogg were really the remanents of Quake (the Lovcraftian Overlord)'s cybernetic death-squads that we meet at the beginning of the episodes in Quake I who had been forgotten following Quake's defeat and left to basically realize that they would have to upgrade and conquer to survive and one of the guys in charge ended up pulling a "The Master" and upgraded himself to the point of being nothing but a giant living telepathic arsenal and that's how The Makron was created.

[@Hex_Scythe_takanashi]

My headcanon is that Strogg are trying to resurrect Shub-niggurah with high tech since her other lovecraftnian entities where killed by ranger and dark magic and hell are kept locked, also my headcanon says Quake 2 it's like 50,100 or 200 years after Quake 1

[@BlueLuck17]

Well this was a very pleasant surprise today, I guess it shouldn't be that surprising since they already did a quake 1 remake. I show my dad the trailer and it warmed his boomer shooter heart. Those monsters at the end make me hope there's a Quake eternal in the future :)

[@KamiJoJo]

About the centered viewmodel setup, it was always meant to not show the viewmodel in action but it your aiming with projectiles changes from the angle you're using (most players tend to use the centered view for better accuracy during multiplayer sessions).

[@MelTheHal]

Hope they’d add in an actual centered view model and rename that one to hidden but overall I love this remaster so much

[@advsttsvda4935]

@@MelTheHal gun_x -7 in the console. works only in singleplayer

[@DarthSateus]

He was such a real one for remembering that trivial Athena information

[@ThatTravGuy]

"Quake Champions Brainrot" = Being A Real One B)

[@flat-seventh]

@@ThatTravGuyquake champions lore is the fucking best

[@LaNoLaCola]

Trav Guy and Civvie doing recent NightDive remasters feels just perfect

[@Doctorolivercook]

... Holy crap, you're right.

[@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32]

And gman just joined the party

[@ThatTravGuy]

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[@user-qf2co7yl3d]

@@ThatTravGuy You not like G-man?

[@AlphaZeroX96]

@@user-qf2co7yl3d Gmanlives is not great.

[@purebaldness]

This mirrors Doom 64's re-release expansion, tying 2016 and Eternal to the lore. It's almost certain that Hugo and Marty will reveal a new Quake, tying both Q2/4 and 1 together. Personally, I think it's going to be a part of the Doom universe, even if it only ever amounts to references. Then again, a planet spearing spaceship full of Elemental Wraiths in Doom Eternal imply possibilities on a cosmic scale.

[@notturok7841]

The comic book of quake on Saturn where they meet doom guy

[@purebaldness]

@@notturok7841 apparently I'm not a true fan because I don't know what you're referring to lol Edit: I understand now, you're on about the bonus machinima on _Sega_ Saturn

[@notturok7841]

@@purebaldness it’s pretty awesome, it’s here on KZbin. Dank and scud adventures. love quake on the Saturn.

[@purebaldness]

@@notturok7841 Oh, I remember. I was thrown off by the fact that he mentioned a uh, planet lol I think it might have even been Trav that introduced me to that oddity. I never had a Saturn back in the day.

[@LongBeach88]

I have a feeling Xbox is gonna get id to keep this off PlayStation and only make it for series and pc but maybe not because they’ve been releasing all these remasters everywhere. I think it would be smart because the massive pc player base will make up the lost Sony sales and Xbox will bring in more people that don’t play on pc into the Xbox ecosystem because they will go out and buy one of the the series consoles. The number of console sales have been rising after the starfield exclusivity so Phil Spencer is high as f thinking games won’t sell Xbox consoles because it’s already working and will continue to if they follow Sony and keep games off their platform. I think doing that no matter how much Sony users hate it will sell a lot of series s/x consoles or worst case sell a pc to bring them into another Microsoft eco system possibly.

[@user-qf2co7yl3d]

Really like all the Add-ons they did and the fact they did not charge again for those who already own the game. Very generous and a lot of fun! I have been hoping forever that they make a new Quake game where they tie the two stories together. I think it would be a fire game as long as the gunplay is good and the story isn't corny.

[@rustylasagna]

I grew up with Quake II on the N64 and loved it as a kid. Still one of my favorite N64 games, and I’m so happy that it’s been included in the remaster along with the expansions.

[@COBfan1996]

Ooooh i hope we get more quake 1 atmosphere/theming in the future, by far my favorite of the series. This seems like a great release!

[@ZacharyDietze]

It's still surreal that both remasters for Rise of The Triad and Quake II came out not even two weeks apart. *Nightdive is out here killing everyone with some back to back bangers!*

[@daemonspudguy]

Doom got a new KEX port recently, using another source port called Rum and Raisins Doom to implement MBF21 and Boom support.

[@ThatREDDYBoi]

OH MY GOD!!! I KNEW IT!! I suspect this will be announced during Quakecon... Update: I FREAKING KNEW IT!!!!

[@AtelierRobu]

I'd love to see you cover the expansions one day for Q2. Also this game and especially Call of the Machine gets me so excited about the idea of Quake getting the Doom 2016 treatment. It'd make sense too if the team that did Doom Eternal and TAG were working on it as well, or at least I think so.

[@colbyboucher6391]

Considering the Eternal tie-in added to the Doom 64 remaster... it sure seems that way, doesn't it?

[@auroriasolaris]

I always felt like there was a connection between Q1 and Q2. Why? Because of design of Armagon from Q1 expansion. It looked exactly like Strogg or some kind of Proto-Strogg. I really like small things and details like that. It does not disrupt overall feeling of the game, but enhance it tenfold.

[@Hex_Scythe_takanashi]

I'm sure Armagon is a proto Strogg or the first Makron, and Quake 1 soldiers are the first Strogg of their kind

[@Somloi]

I always preferred Quake 1 and 4's campaigns to Q2, but this looks amazing!

[@riflemanm16a2]

The problem with Quake 4’s campaign is that it didn’t really get good until the last half hour (and it was already really short). It’s been 20 years or more since I’ve played the Quake 2 PC campaign, but I always loved the N64 version’s unique campaign.

[@ZeallustImmortal]

​@@riflemanm16a2If you got stroggified earlier on I think Quake 4 would've been a lot more fun

[@riflemanm16a2]

@@ZeallustImmortal I mainly remember rooms’ having just one or two enemies in them. Towards the very end, it started to get challenging with a good mix of enemy types and then the game was over. Quake 2 was never shy about throwing the kitchen sink of enemies at the player. I wonder if it had to do with the engine’s ability to handle that much going on at once.

[@ZeallustImmortal]

@@riflemanm16a2 I'm not sure the reasoning myself, and you're definitely right about there being very few enemies early on (aside from a few sections where they just keep spawning). The strog movement wouldn't work too great early on with the current maps, but if they had designed it with stroggification earlier in mind they could've adjusted that

[@Slasher120]

Finally - the game that desperately deserved a remaster. I don't care how different Quake 2 is from Quake 1 (even though I liked the gothic/Lovecraft aesthetic), Quake 2 slaps. I find it really cool how they blend both Quake 1 and 2 together though.

[@k.w.6626]

I agree, and if you want a massive map pack download the 25th anniversary unit, it is so good it even has a level select hub like Quake 1!

[@Slasher120]

@@k.w.6626 Eh, I just use the steam version because I'm a normie. I'm hoping with all this Quake nostalgia resonance we could get a Quake reboot (that hopefully mixes all elements of the series that everyone likes fluidly). Imagine a modern version of the Quake 1 theme.

[@k.w.6626]

@@Slasher120 I don't understand? Me too? What other version of quake 2 did you think I could be referring to? Quake 2's remaster on steam is also compatible with mods according to the news page. I'm sure there are some fire remixes of the quake 1 theme out there but yeah.

[@Slasher120]

@@k.w.6626 Oh, my bad. I thought you were referring to another version of Quake, a smooth-brain moment on my part. The fact we're getting mod support for the Steam version of Quake is exciting though, I don't remember it having that (maybe I just didn't install mods).

[@k.w.6626]

there has always been custom map support, the news page says that will still work with the enhanced edition. Things are different with actual mods though but still awesome. Quotes: "Custom maps designed for the PC versions of the original Quake II should still work with the enhanced release of the game." "We have also updated the bot navigation editor to allow custom maps to make full use of our updated AI, including automatically laying down navigation nodes simply by running around the map." "The PC versions of the enhanced Quake II support mods. However, due to the move from 32-bit to 64-bit, existing mods are not compatible. Along with this release, we have made the source code for the game DLL available, allowing mods to be updated and new mods to be created supporting all the enhancements in our updated engine." @@Slasher120 Nightdive are amazing, back to back ROTT and Q2, we eating good.

[@papayer]

Centered weapon models makes the center of the screen the spawn origin every projectile-based weapon. It doesn't visually center weapons, though it's a thing I expected them to do. On the other hand I understand them not doing it because the models weren't built with center view in mind.

[@bluefates58]

Would love to hear you talk about the Quake expansions since I never knew there were expansions

[@JerryLoffelbein]

"Shub Demonetized" gets me every time

[@hebonky]

I always had the headcannon that the Strogg we're the last remaining forces of Shub.

[@Fragrom59]

Was surprised to see it on my library. Played for a bit and yeah, it's great Ant the centered weapons not showing is not a bug, if i'm not mistaken that how it worked in the original (or was it on a source port not 100% sure)

[@agbrenv]

2:56 they are just rare enemy types, plus gibbing enemies is pretty frequent, and they can only revive dead enemies that are stil intact

[@meowijuana2322]

What is "gibbing"? Hear that term a lot

[@agbrenv]

@@meowijuana2322 killing an enemy and destroying their body, usually they have a -HP stat basically if an enemy has been taken down to 10 HP, and has a -30 HP condition for gibbin, then if you deal 40+ damage to said enemy, it will gib, meaning the enemy explodes into meaty chunks

[@dorinsa116]

I was NOT PREPARED for the Quake II / IV split timeline!

[@CritStanley]

That's not confirmed yet. The strogg isn't stopped in Q2 Call of the Machine, only the Shambler leaders were. And since Q2's vanilla campaign, both original expansions, AND Q4's campaign all seem to imply killing of the current strogg leader doesn't stop them, the war continuing into Quake 4 makes sense. As for humanity still not knowing about the Shub N connection that the Strogg have, its heavily implied that the only marines in Call of Machine that came into contact with the shamblers all don't return from their missions to report it. So its possible the rest of humanity still doesn't know. Or maybe only the really higher ups know, but keep it classified to not panic the rest of humanity.

[@Kobalt_Rax_the_one]

Quake 5 that continues bout from q4, q1 and maybe this new expansion. Must come .

[@SRGIProductions]

I got Quake 2 a year or so back, and seeing the news about this NightDive remaster is exciting. Installing now.

[@benfletcher9659]

I think its great and I got Quake II for Christmas 1997. Quake and Quake II are probably the games that I have re-installed the most over he last 27 years and I am brought back to them every few years. I was 16 when Quake came out, FPS were like Doom, Duke Nukem, Quake did something new. I supposed the equivalent now would be playing VR Cyberpunk 77 in VR now after years in normally 3D. The remaster really has brought a new lease of live into this game.

[@XeCuTioNR]

I cant wait for an eventual Quake III Arena Remaster at this rate.

[@themask6603]

Huh, this explains why Quake 2 suddenly got a big update

[@machineaphex]

Wait, what? You got it early?! Holy shit, AMAZING!!!

[@JuanxDlol]

Humans after Doom eternal:"OH BOY, sure is good living without demonic entities trying to wipe us out" Shuba and the Strogg: ":)"

[@CritStanley]

I wonder if that's where the lore is going: Quake 1 taking place after Doom Eternal.

[@That_Lady_Charlie]

Yes please to videos on the Quake II expansions, thank you! ❤

[@LifeInASek]

god please bethesda let us get a DOOM-like reboot of the Quake series that connects 1 & 2. that would be so sick. i've been wanting this for so long. i'm also so glad you covered this remaster. great video Trav!

[@frankjaeger2565]

I don't really see how the could connect Q1 with Q2. Tim Willits admitted that Id should have released them as separate franchises, Quake (q1, 3, live and Champions) and WOR (2, 4 enemy territory)

[@Lt_Voss]

@@frankjaeger2565 Yeah, but to be fair that's Tim Willits, a direct servant of Shub-Demonetised, who can kindly throat a berserker's spike hand. As for actually tying the two together, it wouldn't be that difficult. There are many angles you could come from. Are the Strogg willing servants of Quake? Are they insane slaves? Are they rebelling against Quake? Were they never servants at all and merely decided to arm up to fight this strange entity when they encountered it in the past? Perhaps it could be like one comment I read a long time ago, and the Strogg are a sort of "accidentally horrifically evil benevolent dictator" in that they know Quake can destroy the minds of mortals, so they completely overwrite the minds of humans so they can't go insane anymore, and graft weapons to their fleshy bodies so they can fight against Quake and its minions if they ever show up. Not saying any one of these is good/better/the right way to go, but I'm just providing examples.

[@Razor-Blade]

“Another night dive remaster that won’t be announced in a week” PlayStation uploads a video at the same time as this video

[@rhysraymond5976]

Probably said when he was recording, my guess anyway.

[@ellocojoncrazy3270]

Please make a video of the expansions, because I've literally never seen anyone talk about those expansions.

[@metalvideos1961]

then you have not searched well enough on youtube.

[@ForeveraBoss117]

Playing this game co op with the grappling hook turned on makes some of the most hectic and fun gunplay you can get in a game on console outside of something like titanfall

[@ThatTravGuy]

Oooo, I gotta try that

[@ForeveraBoss117]

@@ThatTravGuy 4 players: you should have two people drawing Agro while the other two grapple to the ceilings or balconies and swap weapons as they get pulled upwards so they can rain nades or rockets from above. We were able to clear quake 64 in an evening and it was a blast.

[@bigdaddychemster1201]

Trav, I will bet you money, right now, that id's next fully fledged AAA title will be a reboot of Quake 1 that also serves as a pseudo sequel to Doom Eternal. Quake is about dimension hopping, as is Doom (especially new Doom), Eternals's fluid movement and platforming have more in common with Quake than Doom. I will bet you anything that what's left of the Maykr transforms into Shubby and friends.

[@mr.rodgers9891]

The connection between Quake and Quake 2 makes me want a direct sequel to the original. Ranger needs to make his return. And what would make it even better is if Trent Reznor came back to help withe some ambience and Rangers grunts. Wishful thinking, but it's all we have going for us right now.

[@CritStanley]

I'd actually be okay with Ranger not coming back. At least not as the playable character. Ranger just is far too similar to Slayer. I'd prefer Bitterman or even Matthew Kane to be the one who returns. Or better yet, let Athena be the lead. She would REALLY be a protag that stands apart from Slayer.

[@oscarandrade1643]

Glad to see them fusing the lovecraft elements of quake 1 with the strogg from 2 and 4. Hopefullly the new game we fight both forces

[@ADistantImage]

Even when I was a kid I thought Shub created the Strogg. Glad to see it confirmed so we can put all the theories to rest

[@wysoft]

Wow it's amazing how great the Q2 engine is still looking with just a few tweaks and extra effects

[@Tyrinath]

The Maykrs and Shub-demonitized are related somehow, calling it. Corrupted they become straight lovecraftian and start cobbling together worlds, consuming what they need and stitching together the rest into a standing army.

[@MegapiemanPHD]

I always connected the Strogg to the tech base marines from Quake one. Just made sense.

[@GMan9029]

So I played on Hard difficulty, had an awesome time with call of the machine, and actually found the final boss to be really difficult imo. So the two shamblers kept fucking up my view which then would disorient me into the hordes of mutants, which wrecked my shit. But the final attempt I had is honestly one of the most intense moments in gaming for me. Just dropping down one last time, revving up the minigun, the roars of the shamblers echoing through the arena, and Climb (imo the best track in Quake 2) booming through my headphones. It was peak!

[@Coastalcomb9699]

"I blame the color teal" Trav guy 2023

[@ellocojoncrazy3270]

i didnt even know this got remastered too, and i love nigthdive.

[@CritStanley]

Quake 4 can still be canon. The Strogg worship and take orders from the Quake 1 gods but those gods (and their creatures) seem to not want to enter our realm all that much, as evidence in Quake 1 all the base levels that take place on Earth only ever had human enemies. The reason we don't see humanity talking about it in Quake 4 is because all the marines who came across the Quake 1 entities in Call of the Machine don't return from their missions. The one on the moon dies when the base explodes, the one in the ruins goes crazy and just doesn't come back, and the one who went through the portal and killed the two leader shamblers got lost in a dark nothing void. So by Quake 4, humanity still has no idea the gods of Quake 1 are behind everything.

[@LungoScrungo]

This expansion's missions are super fun but also can be quite difficult (which is good), and the connection that they created between Quake 1 & 2 is perfect! Also, you know how people have debated on whether or not Shamblers have fur or skin? Well, they reference that argument in the Shambler's "id Vault" entry by saying that some have fur and some just have skin, finally giving that argument some closure.

[@Superintendent_ChaImers]

I hope this means that Quake is going to be getting the Doom 2016 treatment... Maybe once Quake 3 and 4 get remastered they can somehow bring it all together.

[@GnegonGalek]

a Quake 3 remaster already exists, that's Quake Live (for better or worse). Quake 4 BFG Edition would be neat tho

[@Superintendent_ChaImers]

The problem is that Quake Live sucks. @@GnegonGalek

[@phobosanomaly5383]

Nightdive is on a roll recently from system shock to quake and soon S.I.N.

[@Jayy997]

Call of the Machine is the Quake 4 we should have got. It's fantastic!

[@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan]

From what what I've read the upgrades in enemy behaviour from Ground Zero are now also in the base game

[@puffythedestroyer8878]

Kudos to the true troopers who survived CotM on nightmare difficulty. The garbage carrier & The Commander alone kicked my ass numerous times on just hard mode.

[@JasonHauser125]

Playing the Machine level of Quake 2 currently on Hard difficulty and it is handing my ass to me regularly. Love it! I still think ID needs to make a new Quake game reminiscent of the original Lovecraftian Quake but with vastly updated graphics and MORE ENEMIES on screen. I do miss the mobs of demons from Doom, and modern hardware has the capacity to throw higher resolution models at us. The Quake 2 remaster is doing that quite well in the Machine add on.

[@brandondonato7648]

5:55 John Madden! Football!

[@thesidneychan]

Quake might very well be connected to the Doom 3 timeline.

[@ThatTravGuy]

I like this theory

[@CritStanley]

I did always feel like Doom 3 felt a lot like Quake 1 in terms of pacing and the more horror focus.

[@underthemayo]

Niiiiice thumbnail

[@javierititin]

Hell isn't gone after doom eternal, rather, the demons and all creatures of hell are stuck in hell forever.

[@benjohnson8197]

how does this man not have a million subs???? WE MUST CORRECT THIS

[@yarbone7]

The Darkest Depths levels were so weird aesthetically and level design-wise. They left a weird aftertaste to an otherwise great expansion. Kinda sad I played it last. Laser Eyes and Operation Firewall were my favourites I think. Those felt like they fit, while still adding a cool change in level design. Especially laser eyes felt a bit like how the new Doom games play. Was really pleasantly surprised when I played that.

[@respecttheyoshi]

I would absolutely love to see you cover the expansions, yes

[@AintPopular]

love gun wheel implementation in this remaster

[@llmkursk8254]

It's always a good day when Trav uploads

[@RetroGold19]

You should do a video on the other expansion packs like Ground zero, the Reckoning, and Quake 64

[@galaxycamerata]

Famous Nightdive Studio PR rep, Peppino Spaghetti.

[@ryanburke1656]

Whoooaaaaaa ~ f u c k ~ yeah I love this game but I'm definitely gonna love it more with the Q1 remaster treatment. Super stoked about how streamlined it makes things

[@meow_moment]

Trav when will you speak on Slayers X: Terminal Aftermath: Vengance Of The Slayer. The public needs to know

[@lethalbroccoli01]

yep, never bothered using items as a kid, except for whichever one i just picked up. Also before I learned about mods, I thought Quake 2 was a horror game because of the lack of music.

[@sannicfann3338]

Given that the fortress of doom has books about the strogg and rage implying Slayer has visited those dimensions, and Bj has said he’s seen other dimensions in Newblood I think Id is joining the multiverse trend with the “IdVerse” which may expand to other non Id franchises since Slayer also has books from Prey, Fallout, Black Mesa, Daikatana, and Duke Nukem. Heck since it has been said several demon lords rebelled against Davoth (the likely creator of the Idverse), I theorize Shub-N*****ath and other Lovecraftian gods were demon lords that went rogue and took their legions with them to another realm possibly after Davoth’s first imprisonment. Oh and I think I heard Hugo say Doom 3 fits somewhere in the Canon. THIS SHIT GOT LORE!!!!

[@LordInsane100]

Technically there's even a connection to Commander Keen (oldlore was that Billy Blaze is a grandchild of BJ Blazkowicz), although of course the failure to the point of seemingly having been cancelled without a word of that reboot makes it unlikely to come up. Well, that and the tonal dissonance.

[@sannicfann3338]

@@LordInsane100 I believe Romero said Keen is Doom Guy’s dad and Keen could be one of Bj’s two daughter’s kid

[@roguerifter9724]

I hope Quake 4 remastered comes before any Quake 5 or reboot. I would love to be able to play that again with a gamepad (I prefer gamepads to mouse and keyboard for shooters sue me) I like Quake II. But I still remember being disappointed when I first played it because I was expecting to start with a Shotgun (One of my favorite game gun types) like in the first game. And I somehow managed to miss the Shotgun in the opening zone so I didn't find one until the Comm Center. On the plus side the other of my two favorite gaming Gun types is full-auto so I had fun once I got the Machine Gun in the installation though doing so was annoying

[@CritStanley]

For a Quake 4 remaster, I hope to GOD they allow an option to turn off Mouse Acceleration (which is forced on with no option to turn it off).

[@s6sscott]

OOO BOY MORE TRAV GUY CONTENT!!!

[@cropathfinder]

There are 5 secret levels in 6 of the levels not one in six. There is none i or anyone i know could find in laser eyes and we spend upwards of 40 hours scouring it. Also you do fight 2 shamblers first in the mordir boss battle. Super secret easter egg i see everyone missing is the extra gallery room added to the ID gallery in the base game, there is a switch at the end of ID gallery oppsite the pimp tank that blows up a wall exposing another gallery for for the remaster staff.

[@uria3679]

Duke Nukem: I an’t afraid of no Quake

[@chepless2785]

A video on Ground Zero would be rad. No idea if it's due to the remaster but it's an insane difficulty spike compared to the vanilla campaign.

[@dapapeyu1]

heck the remaster NERFED the turrets and enforcers, i heard it used to be worse

[@GnegonGalek]

it's notorious for its difficulty! at least in the remaster the turrets track you with a laser sight, back in the original version you had to jump into a doorway, take a quick look to see if you can spot the turret, then jump back to dodge its barrage. usually took longer than it sounds, it was simply tedious

[@flashn00b]

Honestly, i'm kinda hoping that Cpl Matthew Kane ends up becoming the Ranger who gets sent into the gothic castles of Quake 1. Have to remember that Q4 ended with the player being given new orders before the credits roll.

[@theblobconsumes4859]

I'd love to see the expansions of Quake 2 being reviewed. People rarely look at them.

[@noobgetsflinged2082]

holy god man, i love you thank you so much for quake 2 thank you even more for the remaster

[@ruthleshunter]

from the looks of it, the strogg stumbled into quake/the black goat, by pure coincidence. kind of would explain why the portals in quake 1 lead to quake herself; humanity wiped out the strogg but they used their tech, and didnt know that shub-niggurath more than likely planed it all out.

[@CaptainRasmot]

If you're reading this before the super spoiler parts, take a moment, watch the vid, then come back to it. . . . they gone? Okay, let's dig into this. So, here's my educated "guess" as to the whole Strogg digging up the temples/structures of Shub Niggurath. I want to ASSUME that at some point in early Strogg history, they found these temples while digging for normal ore/materials. Let's just say pre full stroggification. Now of course the Strogg had NO clue as to what they were opening so when the first few Strogg passed through a slip gate they ended up in the realm of Shub Niggurath. I don't have a good side name for it so we'll call it the "Quake domain". Sounds cheesey enough to fit. So once in the Quake Domain they stumbled upon all of the various inter-cosmic horrors that lurk inbetween. Because that seems to be a "theme" when it comes to the realm of Shub Niggurath. It exists between all points in time. As in there is technically no "before" or "after" in this realm. Because it is where all timeless things dream beyond eternal death lie. So the Marine probably succeeded in killing Shub Niggurath in the first game . . . but not entirely. So when the Strogg came in, they probably came at a point before the Marine. So by the time the Marine from the first game arrives they've been there for . . . let's say a VERY long time. And thus come under the control of either Shub Niggurath . . . or one of the other lesser entities. After all, it is the Black Goat of the Woods with a Thousand Young. Though there was also plans for there to be more entities like Shub Niggurath (AKA Old Ones), so maybe they're finally working that in. Either way the Strogg came in at an early stage in their development, set up an outpost, and started to change how their society and biology works. So by the time of Quake 2 and 4, they had figured out how to . . . in a way "transcend" death, if only barely. I mean if we look at all the various forms of the Strogg, while they do take on a humanoid appearance there is a lot that is HEAVILY altered. So it's my belief that whatever the "Strogg maker" was, was an entity that fully shaped how the Strogg came to be by the time of Quake 2. But this can go ALL SORTS of directions. But yes, i would love a Doom 2016 style of Quake game, please and thank.

[@CritStanley]

I would suggest that when the Strogg found their way into the Quake domain, they enmasse became followers of Shub and went full bio mechanical terror. Humanity would have suffered a very similar fate, but thanks to Ranger being somehow immune to the insanity that hits you, were spared that fate.

[@Supersonicspyro]

​@@CritStanleyhe's actually not immune too it based on champions lore, he's just able to resist it, ranger technically is nearly insane, his photo of his wife and kid being one of the only things that keeps him from going mad completely

[@AlBakerDev]

Oh man, quake 2 was so fun - especially multiplayer

[@KylarTyphlosion]

Hold the fucking phone. FINALLY! been wait since quake ones remaster for this to be made

[@cropathfinder]

I do think that a lot of stuff thats turned on by default should not be like the energy armor being turned auto on and completely ignoring you if you manually turn it off, no you gotta go into the options to turn it off

[@HalfBakeDestruction]

3:12 On the topic of the view models, I'm pretty sure that 'center' in the original had no view model. At least my version didn't

[@LILAC_CHAOS]

The Centered gun thing is from Quake 3

[@ibl3comanticlights]

From stroggos We would like to inform you that the war is still ongoing, so we encourage you to wait for the next epic quake game

[@ogkspaz]

Center gun viewmodel / gun has always worked like that. Up to and including 3.20 even an fov above 90 would hide the weapon.

[@slyofwar3661]

The center view isn't a bug that's how it was in vanilla the idea is to have a clearer fov

[@colbyboucher6391]

Ehh it's was how it was in the first Quake, Q2 went to right-side viewmodels

[@oscaroscar7904]

This game had great music, who made the music? I just tryed the game a bit but the music really stuck

[@buzzedwoody6143]

You don't know how happy I am to know that Quake 1 and 2 are explicitly connected to each other, Like I could not for the life of me understand lorewise why the Quad damage was in Quake 2 if it's another universe it didn't make sense to me.

[@Skibbi198]

Up next: Ranger rescues Doom Slayer (now Doom Guy) from his sarcophagus

[@zesty2023]

*the "ma kron?" the "MA KRON?!" are you SERIOUS!*

[@ThatTravGuy]

Yeah like the French president

[@Telemarathon]

Ah, the Iron Maidens are missing because Machinegames hate women, if you didn't know.

[@Mr.Korzack]

Pleasant surprise for me playing this is the extra episodes & even the N64 version, which feels very weird compared to the base game but understandable considering the hardware. Still damn good fun though, never really gave Q2 a chance in years gone by but it still feels good to play

[@tommyfortress7515]

i hope they dont retcon quake 4 lore, I love that game and its lore D: i hope they do a quake 5 to continue the lore/Story

[@Boxanadu]

Correction: in Doom Eternal: The Ancient Gods, they never stated that Hell as a whole would disappear with the death of Davoth, they stated that all demons outside of Hell would die.

[@bbumbs747]

Wow just on time as well I just saw the trailer for the Quake 2 remaster just a few seconds ago