Quake Champions - CPM Tutorial (Sorlag and Anarki Movement Guide)

[@FrothyOmen]

Skip directly to the inputs of how to airstrafe: 3:23

[@remigusker6024]

"This movement is the entire reason to play Sorlag", I think you meant to say being an awesome lizard instead of a squishy, fleshy snack item is the biggest reason to play Sorlag. ;p

[@AHurdOfBronies_]

ADMIN HE’S DOING IT SIDEWAYS

[@ronweasley8435]

AHurdOfBronies a game where everyone can jump

[@KillerJellyFish676]

he just hoped out ivy, then threw our connector. OUT IVY THEN THREW OUR CONNECTOR like a speed demon.

[@edinbhop]

holy fucking omega cringe

[@simonthecucumberenjoyer1042]

This kid pushes like a fucking idiot

[@bubby492]

As someone with a lot of background in tf2, this seems very intuitive and feels very nice. Great video!

[@Suprcow96]

Sweet! Already sent this to my friends. Great job as always. I do have a couple of things to add, however. 1) A tip for mastering CPMA movement is incorporating the normal q3a style of movement. Because CPMA characters typically have a lot more acceleration, doing a circle jump is even more effective for these types of characters. 2) When you started talking about the thing where CPMA characters can get to their speed cap without ever holding forward, regular characters can do this too with different than normal strafe jumping techniques (Though it's fairly irrelevant and a bit advanced.) Just a couple of minor things. Can't wait to see what you'll post in the future. c;

[@DanielM2006UK]

Thank you so much for doing this. These are the lessons I have been dying to learn, but never had the time or the skill to learn myself. I can bunny hop with Sorlag around the 500 mark, but never got higher. I knew Rocket Jumping played a part, but never understood how. Your video has shown me something I was missing greatly. I am really looking forward to more videos. My intention is to really learn the mechanics of the game and improve as a player. These have all been a big help, thanks again :-)

[@FrothyOmen]

+Daniel Maycock if you're stuck at 500 instead of 520 you need to let go of forward, only hold the left or right direction.

[@FrothyOmen]

+Daniel Maycock happy to hear I've been helpful and inspiring to you though, best of luck :)

[@DanielM2006UK]

Many thanks. Just tried that and managed to get it to 520 as you said. Trying the rocket jumps to see if I can get it higher, about 600 and something so far.

[@DanielM2006UK]

Good news, I've been getting between 800-1100 in UPS using the Rocket Launcher to encourage extra speed. My question though, apart from the Acid Spit, is how the extra speed will benefit Sorlag? I'm finding aiming very difficult when moving at high speed and obviously Sorlag is a bit of a fodder magnet due to her size. I've got her moving around Burial Ground pretty well trying to get her to cross the chasm (sometimes the rocket jump fails and I end up taking a one-way ticket to the bottom), but I have managed to get her through the portal to Quad and use Acid Spit on the awaiting victims.

[@TrendyTryhard]

Daniel Maycock its tough but not impossible

[@danilvoronin2703]

You're the best one, dude. I came to quake champions an year ago, but i wouldn't be on such mid level if it wasn't for you. Wish you everything you need to feel happy and prosperous in your life. Thank you for your tutorials.

[@FrothyOmen]

🤗

[@JuanxDlol]

Running in the 90's intensifies**

[@johanflod]

I hope Id Software hires you to do tutorials for Quake Champions as part of the game package. Your hands-on tutorials are really good and I learn a lot from them, thanks.

[@kacperolszewski3775]

omg thank you so much i was doing it wrong, i just felt in love with anarki i hit his speed cap all the time i love you frothy

[@TheSonicShoe]

*AND ALL THE TF2 PLAYERS REJOICED!* I just commented on a different video about how different the movement in this game is from tf2, and all the while sorlag had the movement I was looking for! I just hope this is still relevant after 4 months worth of patches... her passive insists that she only gains movement speed while bunnyhopping without changing direction, so I'll have to give this a shot and make sure it's still a thing, but I'm really hoping to get those glorious snaking rocket jumps I'm so used to from hundreds of hours playing soldier!

[@aidansweeney9909]

Sonic Shoe yea they use movement similar to that on the source engine so people who were good at surfing and b hopping will be good with these characters

[@jollygrapefruit786]

Why not just play Ranger if you want to rocket jump he is by far the best at it.

[@lanternofthegreen]

@@jollygrapefruit786 You can't air-strafe with Ranger.

[@stemiplays2856]

@@lanternofthegreen i believe what jolly was pointing at is ranger´s reduced self-damage.

[@lanternofthegreen]

@stemiplays He edited his comment I think. It was probably saying "...if you want to air strafe...".

[@krisrudecki9477]

Great tutorial!!! Thank you 🙏 more I learn about QC the more awesome it becomes for me ... at an exponential rate 🤘🏻

[@jovanjovanovic7564]

Do you still play?

[@Mlrfilms]

im triggerd. its first seen in quake 1, since its the basic jumpmechanic in that game :D

[@Buttocks79]

Agreed! It's bizarre upsetting it is that he's attributing this movement style to cpma! The whole reason CPMA was created was because of all the qw players who found vanilla quake3 movement frustrating (I remember it well because I was one of them).

[@nikch1]

@@Buttocks79 I got triggered too, I was just looking at some old quake videos and KZbin recommended me this, I read on the thumbnail "CPM" and thought "you mean original quake right? lmao" and obviously no surprise I'd find you guys in the comment section haha

[@alpenjon]

It has been said before, but QC needs to have his videos as tutorials integrated into the game.

[@fueeey]

Ive always wondered, since Quake live days, how they air strafed, now I know its called Air strafeing, Ive only read yakumos Guide, which was the best, throughout Quake live, Ive always wanted to know how they turn so Quickly, in the air, I couldnt match the speed, and they were the hardest targets, especially in CTF, Bro thank you for this Guide, such a great help man, Thank You so much, many Thanks.

[@SleepyAdam]

QuakeWorld movement. Ooh. Didn't know you could do this!

[@glitchas4593]

Frothy, you're awesome! You need more attention! You're one of the best youtubers that make helpful guides and , overall , play the game very well so *PLEASE* keep up the good work and never give up!

[@FrothyOmen]

+Ultr4 Glitch3r

[@glitchas4593]

FrothyOmen No problem mate! I'm thankful that you accept my kindness! If it wasn't for you I wouldn't be so hooked in this game!

[@byronfranek2706]

This (excellent) tutorial may need to be updated for the changes to air control in the March 15 Patch.

[@Jay_Sullivan]

The concept is exactly the same.

[@brunotvrs]

Finally Quake 1 bunny hopping

[@DARamosYT]

Can't help but find a fondness of jumping to go faster in video games. The roots of this technique being in Quake; I feel funny to have gotten accustomed to it in Minecraft of all things.

[@saddylemon]

Wow, my friend(complete nub and cs only player) just jumped into QC and i was tryin to explain him how to play sorlag, used tons of epithets and rude words, but the key for him was: "imagine u trying to park a car in a parking lot" lol Thx for u vid, dude!

[@Husqiy]

Thats interesting. I'm from cs and can do this movement 8 times fold over the normal "full beat" movement due to me knowing air strafing from cs (playing csgo surf and kz). The reason being this is Quake 1 movement and the original gold source engine is from quake 1 (and is still in normal source). Tl:dr: He must not be good at movement in cs also is what I'm saying.

[@noble64890]

I'm still amazed how you Quake players have this raw arm mechanic to move your cursor in this robotic way that consistently enables a smooth turning rate

[@obsidiangrimoire]

One thing I'd like to point out is that if you can't do the full movement you can just move your mouse and hold W, as was mentioned, but also you can still corner tightly by switching to hold the direction and turning the mouse without W, and then going back to W for straights. It's almost as effective as the full deal and far easier.

[@protodot2051]

Additional info: it's actually possible to airstrafe in quake 1, stage jumping was introduced in quake 2 supposedly while Id tried to remove airstrafing .

[@j1shin]

Best movement mechanics ever!

[@Echromono]

Quality video. I have over 400hrs of QC, and yet these are satisfying to watch (Even if I know these). I bet you are learning also with these videos and I can see, that these will only get better in the future! I have an urge to play Sorlag now...

[@FrothyOmen]

Thanks so much, I'm trying my best to get better each time!

[@madbov6106]

AS a dude whos been playing cs go basically his whole live and most of my time on b hop server i love his style lol

[@G773NOriginal]

I surfing and bhop so sorlag and anarki feel like second nature

[@Roboboy2710]

Coming from titanfall, I think Sorlag is 100% going to be the first champion I grab. Giant lizard with a gun AND ridiculous pivot speed? Yes please. Thanks a bunch!

[@janb4406]

I've been playing Quake for years but I'm not really that good at the Defrag mode in Q3. I've watched a lot of intructional videos on this topic in the past and in resent times (QC) and I have to say that after seeing this video and your other QC videos you explain things very well. I loved your in depth video of Ranger as well. Can't wait for more videos. Keep up the good work! Subscribed!

[@FrothyOmen]

+Jan B Woo! Very happy to hear I was able to get you over the hump on this one. :)

[@Science4Ever]

Another amazing and helpful video! Thanks alot for your great work! Maybe you could make tutorials for CPMA too, since you mentioned it several times in your video. I would also be happy to see videos about rocket jumping in different directions and how to gain speed with that technique and wall climbing with plasma gun/ nail gun. I know I am asking too much but i really like your videos :)

[@tomasrandom6430]

you can turn like this in every counter strike. Coming from counter strike Sorlag feels most natural.

[@Tonycaveman]

Very helpful stuff as always, man. I've found it much easier to just take advantage of the bunny hop while holding W, though. Letting go of W makes it so you can only gain speed by turning your mouse to the same direction as you strafe, but holding W affords you the same amount of air control by just turning your mouse and makes you gain speed automatically without having to turn your mouse. Is there any reason not to hold W, now? I understand the constant patches make it inevitable that some guides become obsolete quickly. I also think theyREALLY need to clearly state the movement styles and capabilities of each champion. Many abilities, like Sorlag's air control, are either not stated or incorrectly stated or they expect the player to imply them from another ability.

[@Jay_Sullivan]

Thankfully, id is experimenting. I think they're concentrating on fixing and balancing the game and adding new content. The tutorials will probably come when the game is nearly out of beta.

[@msharmall7298]

My thoughts exactly

[@Lat3ksi]

I wish one of them had Quake style movement instead of CPMA, so you could bunnyhop sideways and circle around things while looking at them.

[@chewba2008]

Your channel has been really helpfull to me! I love this game, i'm hooked! :)

[@imienazvvisko]

Good tutorial, but one clarification: AirControl mentioned here is not something that CPMA introduced, CPMA was only incarnation of CPM, which was also mod. All started early, when "death row", Dennis Wong and few others were big names.

[@klasbee]

I love this. Very well made and commentated.

[@FrothyOmen]

Thanks!

[@klasbee]

FrothyOmen That being said, i’m very bad at it

[@FrothyOmen]

Give it time and practice! Quake is one of the few games that requires real, regimented practice to improve at. I believe in you 😁

[@klasbee]

FrothyOmen Thank you! I will try! If you ever need a video edited, hmu!

[@dom5035]

seeing the old stack capacities of sorlag and anarki actually hurt my mind so much.

[@exhydraboy2429]

IKR

[@expat8460]

Another reason why Sorlag is my bae

[@KrazyKain]

This looks fun. I'll have to try Sorlag. Maybe Anarki one day when I am confident enough to give up medium to huge stacks

[@thenoobzmaster]

The speed cap for Sorlag is now 720. And crouch hopping is still a thing, allowing you to reduce your hitbox size and fit smaller holes when escaping. Brood Mother said there will be days like this. (here's a small demo of me circling around Burial: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYnIaGt9a7-retk)

[@the49thline]

worth noting is that anarki is about as loud as a jet engine. players can hear you coming from a mile away, and even while idle his board is a dead giveaway.

[@ludvigthetank]

Frothy is the best

[@stemiplays2856]

3.12.18 just checked that sorlag speed thing by using only W+mouse turning.still Works,wont be as fast as with strafing or cprm,tho its still nice 520 ups,but on the other hand it let me to rebind first 5 weapons to a,d,y(for US it will be z),x,c (crouch walking i reduced to its other option,also removed numeric options from all the weapons,helped a bunch at least til i will get used to not put my fingers on numerics)

[@Jay_Sullivan]

They've made Clutch very newb-friendly now but I feel like there is a bit of mastery to achieve. It seems like some or all champions have a boost to maintain speed when changing direction. It's almost like a very weak version of Warsow's dash.

[@-.Yami.-]

Hey @Frothy I'm brand new to quake as of a month ago, and i play against bots alot and i've always noticed that Sorlag bots move everywhere with their body sideways, jumping sideways and i've never understood why or how but now this makes sense. Could you maybe cover advanced CPMA techniques or combos during gun fights?

[@hermannhahl7321]

Fantastic content!! Keep up the great work!! Excellent!!

[@FrothyOmen]

Thank you!

[@imienazvvisko]

CPM was not Q3 mod, Q3 mod was CPMA. CPM was for Q2. Little correction.

[@KindaAmazing667]

This will be super natural to anyone that does KZ maps or enjoys parkour in Counter-Strike. It's the exact same thing.

[@mitsuracer87]

I've never noticed a difference between Anarki and Sorlags movement. I usually use Anarki for the faster speed and smaller hitbox.

[@scyhte82]

aah, i see... i was wondering why the jumping around corners thing doesn't seem work at all in qc like it does in csgo for example. guess i'll have to try anarki and sorlag then.

[@StephenGoddard-MiisterSpiice]

Missionaries love it sideways like Sorlag! :)

[@marocky92]

This Video help me a lot, THX

[@Iamsayran]

Great video. Thanks!

[@GiRR007]

reminds me of bunny hoping in counter strike

[@FrothyOmen]

It's very similar!

[@stopfkindz]

Thats what felt of moving Ranger. I'm so used to CPMA but i could not point my finger on it. lookss like i have to purchase sorlag :D

[@kamendimitri5624]

If u rocket jump while jumping down the ramp u can reach incredible speeds. My record is 1250

[@augmented2nd666]

Try playing these champions on Dm17 "longest yard" and you'll never want to play the other champions on that map again.

[@plinkage]

so abilities aside, sorlag has better turning control than visor but visor can go faster. so maps with longer areas for visor and tight quarter maps go sorlag? hmmm. i only have visor so far tho

[@WhiteBoyFunk]

Well done. I do miss cpma.

[@benniebees]

I don't understand the physics behind these systems. To maintain speed but change direction, a force must apply exactly tangential to your vector at all times. (this is called centripetal force) Yet when you hold jump and left, your direction doesn't change. This tells me that holding left does not apply a force to your character at all. Then why does it turn you if you turn the mouse? I guess it only applies force while you are turning the camera. I don't get the physics behind the ranger movement either. What is the fundamental difference between air control where you hold both forward and a lateral direction, vs air control where you only hold a lateral direction. I never understood how you could accelerate in titanfall, it makes no sense to accelerate with a lateral force from a physics perspective. What am I missing? I'm trying to get an intuitive understanding of the underlying mechanics that cause this to work the way it works, but I'm puzzled for now.

[@ndac6324]

I was so confused with quake movement after coming from source engine movement. I’ll just start playing with these champs lol

[@FrothyOmen]

Good luck!

[@daangelooven8392]

oke i already knew this but just wtched before the patch anarky cuod lock his speed by holding w is that pptched becuose it was beter then sorlags

[@davitsk1]

i only "know" how to move these two characters. ... wish all characters moved like this :D

[@spinningsquare1325]

Saaaame

[@KarlMySuitcase]

Yeah playing bhop and surf in cs and hl has made holding forward at the same time impossible.

[@noahhunt8575]

so kinda how the source engine works

[@FrothyOmen]

Source Engine is a fork of idtech so yeah, same rules apply

[@t0fuu957]

So airstrafing, for some reason when im not holding w i slow down. Any thoughts?

[@kevg7040]

In original CPM movement you would accelerate more when doing diagonal input strafes and hitting the acceleration zones rather than straight left and right strafes. Is the same not true in QC? It's probably not a big deal anyway considering the low speed caps but still a thought to consider.

[@Jay_Sullivan]

If you're building up speed, it's better to use the forward/backward and a strafe key. The movement is basically PQL which is slightly different than CPM, which is nearly CPMA.

[@ki-cl3hu]

did anarki's downside with that loss of momentum has changed ? because I didn't quite notice it when playing him, but he's not my main and I still strafe-jump in a sort of normal way with him even though I noticed the movement potential he has in addition to his speed. I honestly just learned about this technique from CPMA, and now I'll definitely try Sorlag lol

[@FrothyOmen]

Anarki cannot turn as hard as he used to when airstrafing, but he's still quite maneuverable

[@ki-cl3hu]

wow thanks for that quick answer. your guides and tutorials are really helping me out as a new quaker, just the best I could find, keep up the good work!

[@fLzii]

How much airacceleration (in cs games) would sorlag equal to? Do I have to do wide slow strafes or can i do 8-10 strafes without losing speed?

[@FrothyOmen]

You can strafe forever while gaining speed, there isn't a number of bhops where you start to trail off. You can make rather tight turns, but there is a limit where you will in fact decelerate a lot if you go too tight.

[@stemiplays2856]

lol if both have the same movement i know what my second champ will be to pair with anarki,third movement jump for me is visor

[@blakebacon95]

dirty intro movement

[@TheRaganicRhetoric]

I don't know if you come back to old videos, but I have some noob questions. So with this type of movement, the only benefit it gives over the movement the other characters use where you also hold forward is that it gives you more control in the air without losing speed; is that correct? Also, if you were to try and use CPM movement on the characters that aren't the lizard or hoverboard guy, what would happen?

[@FrothyOmen]

You're correct in the first part. If you do it on other characters, nothing will really happen. They aren't coded to move that way and you'll sort of just flail.

[@TheRaganicRhetoric]

Gotcha. Thank you for the clarification.

[@fidly4]

Anarki's passive is " Hoverboard Pro: Anarki can control his movement in the air, allowing him to make sharp turns at high speed."It basically sounds like it's describing this. But if it's Anarki's passive ability why can Sorlag do it only better?

[@FrothyOmen]

You've found an oversight in the UI, which reflects an older version of the game where anarki had more control than he does now. That hasn't been updated in a while, unfortunately.

[@szifon2]

Waaaaay to detailed bro. I apretiate your help, but after the 4th time hearing that the reason to pick Solrag is to use CPMA - over and over again, becomes boring.

[@Linguistie]

Is there any other strafing technique that you can use when playing anarchi besides A/D? Sideways (W/S) doesn't seem to work like it did in csgo

[@FrothyOmen]

Not really. Nothing that's as effective as the CPM stuff.

[@bron2452]

The first champ I was gonna buy was doom slayer but after seeing this I am 100% buying one of these characters because most of my life I have played counterstrike and original quake 1 and half life and if these characters movements are anything like counter strikes with its bunny hopping then I believe I am going to dominate because I have around 3k hours on cs and bunny hopping maps took up about 1k hours out of the 3k I've played, I still haven't quite mastered it but I am pretty confident in my abilities with bunny hopping, but just to make sure, these characters you're showing us in the video with their movements, is that essentially the same as bhopping in counter strike, quake 1, and half life? I just want to make sure because I don't really want to waste my money if they aren't the same as bhopping in cs and quake 1 and half life

[@FrothyOmen]

I don't play any of those games so I'm not sure. I know it's similar but I don't know if the inputs are exactly identical.

[@bron2452]

Frothy well if it's in any way similar then sign me the Fuck up because I'm tired of playing nothing but ranger lmao, thanks for the vid I would have probably never known these 2 champions moved differently than the other champs in the game.

[@bron2452]

ok quick update so i bought him and started playing him and yes it does work exactly how it works in those games, ive been bunnyhopping circles around everyone and ive been playing nothing but sorlag for the past 8 hours, loads of fun, thanks again for making the vid

[@Broenss]

man u glide so nice . :D

[@gaddivo]

why I only gets 580 something max speed? T.T

[@guy3nder529]

i would have bought this alreadyt but i have learned not to preorder games. cant wait for release!

[@JimSkeme]

Guy Ender you can still play it on steam for free but only with one champion unlocked.

[@guy3nder529]

Jim Skeme no its costs money there too. It'll be ftp on release

[@JimSkeme]

Guy Ender you're right. Sorry.

[@kevg7040]

It's not a preorder if you can play the game, just early access...

[@guy3nder529]

Kev G it's still not finished. Also, I got burned already when I pre-ordered lawbreakers and than nobody played it

[@pollo_frit0442]

Frothy could you do a tier list for titanfall 2?

[@FrothyOmen]

Nothing has changed since my last one, respawn stopped putting out balance updates a long time ago

[@pollo_frit0442]

Ok thanks

[@TheEvanDude112]

So in other words, if I can't frag an Anarki as Sorlag, I'm doing it wrong?

[@FrothyOmen]

He's pretty survivable for a light champion, considering his active ability. Keep working at it, the acid spit is your friend.

[@101phil101]

for some reason sorlag movement just clicked in my head. holy shit she's fast. add a few rocket boost and it's pure madness on burial chamber! As a slash player this almost feel like cheating lol

[@FrothyOmen]

+Philippe Lamoureux nice! Have fun!

[@nanthilrodriguez]

Anarki is not CPMA, he is Quake World.

[@AdrenalineJunkieXL]

I just got into a car wreck that messed up my thumb and now I'm unable to play this or quake live or titanfall or anything!!!

[@FrothyOmen]

+AdrenalineJunkieXL nooo! :(

[@mus0u]

CPM movement is not quite the same, sorlag and anarki movement is a lot closer to Q1 movement (but not identical to that either)

[@VALIS538]

No stair jumps?

[@jUppers]

also big part of any source game cant believe you just left that out D: there's literal surf and bunnyhop maps for this kind of movement in cs and tf2 and gmod, and there isnt any actual strafejumping in source at all, so all there is left is this type of airstrafing

[@danczer1]

The difference between Sorlag and Anarki is by design or a bug?

[@FrothyOmen]

By design

[@Rolroorlo]

So does sorlag still have this ability? i mean its not noted as air strafing in the game as of today

[@FrothyOmen]

Yes

[@SirBaconater]

ooooooooooooooh someone's a snacc

[@nortropgrumann9594]

Cool

[@konstantinotrembsky9966]

why didn't you tell that they can gain constant speed over 1100ups with rj? Or that Solrag can get increased momentum and jump distance on jp if combined with crouch? The 1st one is one of the main reason why Sorlag is picked by pros.

[@FrothyOmen]

+Konstantin Otrembsky I showed getting to nearly 1k in the opening clip and crouch accel is being patched out. Crouch accel is also not a CPMA movement mechanic.

[@s_e_t_z3248]

For the person who is the 1000th like, your welcome, I was kind enough to give you 999

[@Fabelaz]

Is this still relevant? I can't be sure with all the updates that have been up to this point.

[@electrovulcon57]

Fabelaz Nyan it is

[@brunotvrs]

It's an insult that Ranger doesn't move like that :P

[@pandabeast6]

Gotta go fast

[@nicktan4530]

I still dont understand

[@Crunchy166]

What does PCM stand for?

[@kevg7040]

crunchy limestone CPM is challenge promode

[@janisir4529]

Is this still a thing in the game?

[@FrothyOmen]

Yes

[@spinningsquare1325]

lmao this is the easiest one. If you know how to bhop in Quake 1 or in half-life it is not difficult at all