Quantum Break Critique | Beyond Ambition

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Monty Zander

Monty Zander

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@MontyZander
@MontyZander Жыл бұрын
If you want to hear me drunkenly walk my two friends through the full story of Quantum Break (and Remedy's other games!) check out Lore Dump 👇👇 kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGK5qausbsqVeJY
@mulattoman
@mulattoman Жыл бұрын
I went to a pop up for marketing this game at a downtown spot in the city I m from. it was weird because at the time I think I was one of the only people attending who knew what the game was actually about. They converted a space that once hosted a restaurant into a "fake" restaurant that was frozen in time. Everything, all the props, etc were set up to look like they were moving but stuck in place. You'd walk through the place to get to the basement where you could play the game. But again, the whole time I was there no one on site really explained what the game was about, like they were under instructions to just let people wander around and figure it out for themselves. The amount of design that went into the pop up was pretty impressive.
@meimei8718
@meimei8718 2 жыл бұрын
I also hope this game is remembered. I really feel for Sam Lake who pours his heart into his creations only for the company who helped him to realize them to keep a stranglehold on parts of the universe. Then again maybe that’s why he made quantum break is to explain why histories can be the same and certain points will never change. Alan Wake does exist just like Max Payne did exist and all of his creations were made and did happen. They were and are still part of reality just maybe not this reality. Fixed points that will never change in his heart and will never be forgotten. Mr. Door. Are you there?
@greasy8394
@greasy8394 11 ай бұрын
Max Payne 1 was a masterpiece especially with all the occult symbolism and conspiracy theories on secret societies and such. Everyone plays Max Payne 1 every winter like it's a ritual. Even symbolic of the snow storm that's coming up.
@ruok3351
@ruok3351 2 ай бұрын
I played this recently on PC and I think it’s a beautiful single player experience. I think the mistake was it was an Xbox One exclusive, and at the time Xbox One wasn’t selling very well.
@raresmacovei8382
@raresmacovei8382 2 жыл бұрын
I'm happy that Quantum Break was a visual powerhouse in 2016 and it's still a visual powerhouse now in 2022 when you can run the game now at higher resolution, higher fps AND turn upscaling off. A 5700 XT can either do maxed out 1080p60 native rez or 1080p120 with upscaling and a really fast CPU.
@TheLevitatingFleem
@TheLevitatingFleem 2 жыл бұрын
anyone else notice that the negative space in the Monarch Solutions logo makes a picture of The Board & Nail from Control?
@MontyZander
@MontyZander 2 жыл бұрын
I have never noticed that. Love it!
@cerealvapist333
@cerealvapist333 Жыл бұрын
Not really but what does stick out to me is that it's strikingly similar to the logo of "The Monarch" from Venture Brothers.
@TheTotallySaneDane
@TheTotallySaneDane Жыл бұрын
@@cerealvapist333 Will agree with the previous comment, but they are notably similar which is neat. don't think this will mean anything for the future of Remedyverse, though
@martincris7791
@martincris7791 Жыл бұрын
I love how you contextualize the game's development and company/industry influence to give these games justice (for all your vids). It's no guarantee but it helps keep things fair and reminds audiences that these things aren't done in a vacuum..
@iliaPayne
@iliaPayne Жыл бұрын
Excellent video ! As a Quantum Brake defender I have never been more pleased with 2 hour video of somebody shitting on the thing I love, But just as with Shammy's Surge video - I can just tell all this critique is coming from trying to love this tough to like game and I absolutely respect that. Ah yes, and your editing and writing skills are top notch too I guess
@MontyZander
@MontyZander Жыл бұрын
Hey thank you!
@moshdragon
@moshdragon Жыл бұрын
I definitely want a sequel for this one (all of the remedy's games honestly) but this one has some good story foundations especially if they give us a bit more Controll on the gameplay side of things
@godnamedtay
@godnamedtay 6 ай бұрын
It won’t ever happen. At least not from remedy. That’s a guarantee.
@justinkyle5091
@justinkyle5091 2 ай бұрын
I’ve watched 3 of your critiques now. They’re second to none and they are as entertaining as they are thorough. Most important they are creative. Fantastic work sir.
@godnamedtay
@godnamedtay 6 ай бұрын
“How would u feel if a corporate monopoly was taking a huge dump all over your personal history” …I truly feel like this was Remedy’s way of telling everyone what Microsoft and Xbox were doing to them by forcing them to make this game.
@andrewlee4527
@andrewlee4527 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, another awesome analysis. This game does feel like such a missed opportunity, not for TV / Games crossovers, but for a cool sci-fi universe. Thank you for taking the time to go in depth on a game I left alone because of the reviews.
@hawkins347
@hawkins347 Жыл бұрын
You can actually find Hatch's eyedrops early on in the room Amy gets interrogated/killed in, I'm not sure which timeline variant it is anymore, but the point is Hatch's eyedrops say that they contain chronon particles. So basically he uses them to keep his eyes from phasing through timelines. A small detail but so cool.
@gabby3036
@gabby3036 Жыл бұрын
Damn, talk about Synchronicity: In Act 5, where he mentions the radio call-outs about Jack being all over the place suddenly making sense reminded me heavily of an early section from "Titanfall 2" (haven't finished it yet, but it's super fun and uses the time stuff in such a cool way). So I went ahead and checked which game came first and they both released in 2016! "Quantum Break" in April and "Titanfall 2" in October. After a bit of googling, I was able to find a Wikipedia article that said they wanted to use the concept in the first Titanfall game but didn't have time to implement it. So there ya go, Multiple Discovery in all its glory? Lawl.
@cosmiclikesminecraft
@cosmiclikesminecraft 2 жыл бұрын
I was most interested in Quantum Break because of Shawn Ashmore, he played Jake in the Animorphs TV series
@stuglife5514
@stuglife5514 2 жыл бұрын
No way there was a fucking animorphs TV show? Those books were.....so strange
@cosmiclikesminecraft
@cosmiclikesminecraft 2 жыл бұрын
@@stuglife5514 yep the TV show was decent no where as good as the books, but still good. You can probably find the episodes online somewhere if you wanna give em a watch
@a.g.m8790
@a.g.m8790 2 жыл бұрын
No he played Iceman in the 20th Century Fox hit film series X-Men
@monsterjj9917
@monsterjj9917 2 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, this video reminded me there were upgrades in this game. I played through the whole game in 2017 without knowing there were any skill upgrades
@dragonslayergeorge898
@dragonslayergeorge898 2 жыл бұрын
Came for Noobus Humanus, returned for the entirety of the Kingdom Hearts Lore Dump (Keeping my fingers crossed for UnionX), staying for the analysis videos. Amazing stuff. Would love to see this continue on to Alan Wake and Control. Control is a seriously great game. One of my favourites.
@MontyZander
@MontyZander 2 жыл бұрын
I've done full critiques of both! Also have no fear on Union X - we're doing it in September (and once we've finished Kingdom Hearts I'm going to guide Chase and Neil through the Remedy verse!)
@dragonslayergeorge898
@dragonslayergeorge898 2 жыл бұрын
@@MontyZander Well I guess I've got some catching up to do! Super excited for Union X. Can't wait!
@bigounce562
@bigounce562 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. I haven't seen/played Quantum Break, but I'm here for narrative experimentation. Control was a great experience for me and I jumped in blind. Enjoyed everything. Remedy seems wild and bold with their stories, almost like when Soul Reaver 1&2 were new (Amy Henning wrote these games I think). Not necessarily in structure, but in innovation for its era. Soul Reaver brought Shakespearean stuff into games proper. Remedy seems to go full James Joyce or maybe William S. Burroughs since there's scifi stuff. Again, I'm here for it. Would love to hear your take on The Surge series. That song playing in the save rooms is worth analysis in itself.
@charcole400
@charcole400 2 жыл бұрын
I want a sequel it would be nice to see a new jack with a changed outfit and more character make the gameplay faster and use time in combat more.Hell it would be cool just to see a revamped jack in one of the control dlc and seeing him help Jesse and the foundation somehow
@parkerjackson4880
@parkerjackson4880 Жыл бұрын
Agree huge missed opportunity not having Jack be a fixture in the remedy universe great actor and a great dev team like remedy could’ve had another Max Payne or Alan Wake level character if they didn’t do the whole tv thing.
@Crowald
@Crowald Жыл бұрын
I love how this essay itself jumps around from event to event, disjointed from linearity. Out of place. Out of time, perhaps? It's a very nice editing touch, Monty, even if it isn't intentional.
@MontyZander
@MontyZander Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU - much like the game I’m not sure the final edit stuck the landing but I was proud of it at the time!
@kaleidoscopickait
@kaleidoscopickait 2 жыл бұрын
Love your analysis videos! I never played quantum break but I’ve been meaning to play Control for forever.
@stuglife5514
@stuglife5514 2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t beat it yet but Control is a great game, especially if you’re into lovecraftian style horror/Sci-fi
@nathbugg9719
@nathbugg9719 2 жыл бұрын
Probably the most underrated KZbinr on the site, keep up the great work man
@MontyZander
@MontyZander 2 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks!
@stigma8128
@stigma8128 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see you cover Detroit Become Human. This critique is honest gold.
@alexanderlobov1432
@alexanderlobov1432 Жыл бұрын
R.I.P Lance Reddick. We gonna miss you, sir!
@timeneses
@timeneses 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize that it was Lance Reddick until he spoke and I went "oh yeah, that's Sylens!"
@Freak80MC
@Freak80MC 2 жыл бұрын
Unrelated to your video, but I still hope they figure out some way to connect Quantum Break to the bigger Remedy universe, especially seeing as Alan Wake does appear at the beginning in the university on some tv show or something. But I think that's just me hoping, because I love time travel media and really like the time travel mechanic in this game and I'd be super interested how they solve that whole "end of time" thing since it can't be changed. Plus seeing the end of time would be super cool too. Also some boards near the end of the game in Paul's office I think, where Paul is like planning out what the timeline is, have mentions of some weird stuff that was never explained anywhere else in game and I'd love to know what Remedy was planning with all that. (idk if this should be it's own comment, guess I'll just add it as a footnote to this. I was always a bit confused on how it's said in-game that events cannot be changed, yet Paul and anyone with those powers can see into the future and change the future... But I guess thinking it over, it makes a little bit of sense? Just like real life, the past is set in stone, but the future is subject to change. It's just that in this story, some people have their personal pasts set in the future. So events that are not in anyone's personal pasts, are the objective future, so can be changed, whereas the past cannot be, which includes anyone's personal pasts. I think... lol )
@themeltingpoint3867
@themeltingpoint3867 2 жыл бұрын
Tell Tale Games perfected the balance between story and weekly releases of chapters so it took months to finish the game but feels worth it.
@StickWithTrigger
@StickWithTrigger Жыл бұрын
“Perfected the balance” they went bankrupt and the employees blamed that formula
@kfarnstein
@kfarnstein Жыл бұрын
Perhaps, this is my own personal nostalgia shining through, but I feel like that "dream cat with bear claws" remark made by Emily in the first episode of the show is meant to be a reference to Brooke Nevin (the actress playing Emily), who is known by many as Rachel from the Animorphs TV show. Two of Rachel's signature morphs are a cat and a bear. Given that Shawn Ashmore played Jake in the same show, I can't imagine that's a coincidence. Of course, does this mean the Animorphs are part of the Remedy extended universe as well? Eh, probably not.
@Liam_Phoenix
@Liam_Phoenix Жыл бұрын
God I hope it's intentional otherwise it's incredibly weird and kinda stupid, it was cute but it dragged on too long
@Whiteythereaper
@Whiteythereaper Жыл бұрын
The Xbox One I bought in 2016 was the Quantum Break bundle, it came with codes for the game for both xbox and windows 10 and then after setting up the console I got a message from Xbox that sent me another pair of codes which was hilarious. I didn't start the game for a couple months but when I did I really enjoyed it. I really liked Shawn Ashmore as Iceman over the years so having him as the protagonist of a game with a tie-in live action show was pretty nice. I 100%ed the achievements and then did it again in 2019 and I still really enjoy the story, especially the character of Beth and her story
@KrazyKain
@KrazyKain Жыл бұрын
I actually really liked Defiance. The show was a genuinely good sci fi western, and the links to the game where very surface level and shallow, but it was still amusing to see the start of the show have the main character carry around a mcguffin that, having played the MMO, He stole from me! and in some later episode where they are dealing with a pandemic, I was the one to initiate the airdrop that saved the town. (obviously by me, I mean anyone playing the game and doing the appropriate quests but thats the experience I got). The actual game isn't very fondly remembered but It was an ok Destiny/Warframe like MMO shooter. I had put in a decent bit of time into. As for Quantum Break, it too was an interesting experiment, and I enjoyed the gameplay, what little there was of it. Its definitely the Remedy game I'm least likely to replay, but I certainly don't regret playing it.
@callsignnorr5480
@callsignnorr5480 2 жыл бұрын
i cant help but feel like this game was a exciting vision strangulated by a meddling publisher trying to enforce their corporate board idea of the consumer ( not player ) wants P.S also they were not far off with the end of times being in 2021 just food for thought
@MontyZander
@MontyZander 2 жыл бұрын
It's even more interesting to hear Phil Spencer talk about the launch of the Xbox One today. He cites Microsoft's handling of Quantum Break as a low point for the execs
@FinalFreak1337
@FinalFreak1337 2 жыл бұрын
hey :) just wanted to say that your channel is a god sent! i discoverd your channel because of your noobus humanus series a few month ago . i really love your critique videos and binched the whole lore dump playlist so now im here to fulfill chases wishes :D please give us the kingdom hearts union x lore dump! thank you for the massiv effort you put in your videos
@MontyZander
@MontyZander 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@gbrading
@gbrading Жыл бұрын
I've always had a soft spot for Quantum Break because I do find the time travel story really good. The "TV show" aspect is silly but it doesn't destroy the gameplay sections. It does however fall below the likes of Control or Max Payne 1 or 2.
@chuckbot4504
@chuckbot4504 2 жыл бұрын
i’ve been curious about this game since playing Control. i’m more interested in it now, not sure if that was the intended purpose lol but great video.
@drakenfist
@drakenfist 2 жыл бұрын
I always joke that "Quantum Break" is Control's very rough first draft. Quantum Break had a very cool look. The abilities were awesome. But the whole thing was squandered by a messy and uninteresting story. A very boring protagonist. The antagonist was just as boring (and he's played by little finger!). The only character that was interesting was this character "Beth". I thought the actress who played her should have been the main protagonist as she had something special going on about her. Imagine my surprise when a few years later the bring out "control" which has the actress who plays Beth is the main protagonist.
@louisvictor3473
@louisvictor3473 2 жыл бұрын
What if Quantum Break's events (or a version of them sufficiently distinct as far as IP laws are concerned) is what kicks off the Remedyverse, and is what creates at least some of the AWE and other "realities"? I think there is some potential to it based on themes and some general ideas. The many worlds interpretation of Quantum physcis would be particularly intersting here as it would fit perfectly with many of the themes and ideas of Quantum Break. Sparing everyone the lecture, the main point is that any decision creates a fork in the timeline in two realities from that point on (i.e. their past is entirely the same; not identical, the same, and neither is the "real" one, they both are). Timelines/Universes created by quantum phenonema aren't parallel or distinct. There is no timeline, just a time tree. And time travel is funky because going to the past it is uncomplicated (singular common past, it is a line going back up a branch). Moving forward is messy, in every subsequent fork (which there should be bajilions every instant from each of the bajilion of things that count for quantum "choice"). And if you're trying to go back from the past to your original present, you best make sure you never altered enough of your parent branch's past so that your branch was never created but rather others. Imo this angle could be quite interesting to analyze the game, but let's focus just at the the end of times here. Maybe "times" end because something manages to travel back all the way back to the big bang, right before any quantum "decision" happened, when there wasn't even a primordial timetreetrunk from which all other fork from, but a singular timepoint. But now instead of haivng the universe go bang as thought it has, it go bang a bit differently. With this new observer forcing earlier forks in the timetree, you end up with a branch that resembles most of the universe we know/people in QB knew. But also other branches where their laws of physics consolidated complitely different from ours, like Polaris'. That is, to the characters in QB, times (as they knew) do end - the old timetree they came into existed in is gone, _rewritten_ out of reality from not just a _dark place_ but a "dark" nothingness so complete not even space itself yet existed there, replaced by this new one with its uncanny similarity to theirs in some ways and gross differences.
@noonesomeone669
@noonesomeone669 2 ай бұрын
What is interesting is how well Remedy learned from the mistakes of Quantum Break and integrated the most potentially impactful aspects in their later titles. The frustrations around the live action feeling cheap or disconnected was solved by scaling it down, choosing a very grounded aesthetic for both aspects, and involving characters that are more central in the game. Even the junction ability is somewhat revisited with the plot board in Alan Wake II where the potential outcomes are central to narrative progression and gameplay. It is a shame that a sequel done without Microsoft is impossible due to the IP ownership.
@bobbypaycheque
@bobbypaycheque 2 жыл бұрын
So I played this at release, and yes the pacing is awkward and there isn't enough gameplay on offer here. However, I had just gotten an Xbox One that year and at the time I really liked it. This game felt very "next gen" especially in the realm of the graphics for me when I could finally get a new console. Great video about a flawed game that I have a huge soft spot for.
@maximumonus5946
@maximumonus5946 2 жыл бұрын
I may have no love for the game, but I'll watch for Monty!
@johnbutcher6326
@johnbutcher6326 Жыл бұрын
Something I can say about QB is that it makes big promises. The powers used in combat were pretty cool, even if it was at mercy of poor gun play. And I’m sad I’ll never get a second instalment. Where they can forget the 20 min episodes, maybe they could have given 10min action and story pieces. Jack could be exposed to the truth of the impending fracture and find some weird way to save Beth. But as expected Microsoft got greedy and stole an IP with infinite potential to put it on a shelf and forget about it. I laugh a little at the irony of parallels of Microsoft and Monarch, stealing something to secure their future. When it belongs to someone else, someone who could do something better with the IP.
@Liam_Phoenix
@Liam_Phoenix Жыл бұрын
Holy shit, I didn't even think of the irl parallels! You're right! I'm shook
@DerekHansell
@DerekHansell 9 ай бұрын
Incredible to hear Lake talk about AW2 now that it's out.
@senecauk8363
@senecauk8363 Жыл бұрын
One thing I remember from this is that the sci fi suits and accoutrements looked good in the game, but goofy as fuck in the tv show. EDIT: I think you could download the episodes originally, not just stream them. Obviously it made the package pretty big.
@slimeloe
@slimeloe 5 ай бұрын
such a great concept with visuals to back it. sadly it’s potential wasn’t even scratched. would love to see what other directors could build from this world
@-redacted_by_youtube
@-redacted_by_youtube Жыл бұрын
I love all of remedys games. They just feel different.
@facepalmvideos1
@facepalmvideos1 11 ай бұрын
I think Jack inabitily to grasp anything has hands down one of the best payoffs in anything ever "I'll come back for you" is such a deliciois piece of dramatic irony, I adore it. Like, holy shit, IT'S ALL HIS FAULT. He ultimately will kickstart all this mess. He will create 2023 end of time in attempts to save Beth, and in doing that will kill her and destroy everything. Jack is one of my favorite twist villans ever, and the fact that it flew over the head of so many people is killing me.
@treysmith1551
@treysmith1551 9 ай бұрын
I played this game on an LSD trip, so the simplicity of the gameplay helped with my completion.
@Penguino1215
@Penguino1215 9 ай бұрын
Since Alan Wake 2 introduced the many worlds theory through dreams, I hope we get to see an echo of a cat named Liam lol
@RavenStorm332
@RavenStorm332 4 ай бұрын
I didn't mind Quantum Break though I feel that the hardline path makes no sense because how is a private company able to shutdown an entire city in the US they could have at least made it so that Monarch had a security section of their company which offers their services to hunt a "terrorist" which in hardline they brand Jack as. As for the TV show as a whole they should have worked closer with the game's writers or made it so that show characters don't cross-over with game characters that way we see the overall story from two prospective views and we see that there's someone inside of Monarch helping Jack without his knowledge though if cross-overs what they wanted then that could have been saved for the last episode of the show and last chapter of the game where things would converge together in a climax that's satisfying
@jameswinter482
@jameswinter482 25 күн бұрын
I always thought that the obvious interpretation was that the only two people who ever traveled to the future and saw "the end of time" were the ones that would die in the story. Metaphorically or physically they saw their own death and couldn't understand it so they became desperate to avoid it. Anyone else thought that or just me?
@lkotro21
@lkotro21 3 ай бұрын
Paul, Beth, Will: "You can't change the past" Jack: *changes the past, constantly, doesn't realize it* "Yeah, only the future. But I kinda want to change the past" (I mean, Quantum Ripples are affecting the future. If Jack doesn't do this - it will cause that. But if you can't change the past, he shouldn't be able to do that, by doing this.) #JackCantRun SPIRAL INTO DEPTH! That's why it's Alan Wake!
@KnoxKnight08
@KnoxKnight08 9 ай бұрын
🎶Dat's free quick MAFFS!🎶😂
@That_Ifrit_Guy
@That_Ifrit_Guy 8 ай бұрын
This is really interesting to watch /here your theories after haven played Alan Wake 2
@Caffeinedemons
@Caffeinedemons 2 жыл бұрын
Hey love the channel amazing commentary and editing. I was wondering how do you capture the game audio without the music. Are you pulling clips and editing the audio out or are you playing the game capturing game play and and Turing music audio off ? If you are editing the music out what program are you using
@MontyZander
@MontyZander 2 жыл бұрын
I play twice - once with default settings (music etc) turned on, and then a second time with the music off! I capture both times. It’s not always perfect though - I need to get a lot better at capturing footage! For mic recordings I use a Yeti mic and Audacity. For video editing I use Filmora. For background music I typically use copyright free songs from artlist. I’m thinking I’ll make a video documenting my process next year so will walk through it in as much detail as possible!
@Caffeinedemons
@Caffeinedemons 2 жыл бұрын
@@MontyZander wow thanks for such a detailed reply. screen capping this for when you have millions of subs. Seriously though im not the first or last to say this but your videos are extremely well made. Ive worked on a dozen or so video essay projects with friends and collaborators over the years and by far your videos are a cut above the rest.
@Masterhitman935
@Masterhitman935 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making long form analysis!
@SageofStars
@SageofStars 2 жыл бұрын
I myself found you through this content, and it's what I'm here for, as I fell off the souls like a long time ago...mostly because I want From Soft to make me more giant robot depression simulators...armored core, I want more armored core. All that said, this was the one I found boring. i mean, it's not bad from a purely technical perspective, it even looks really good in some places, and the idea of short breaks using the live action episodes to fill in some story gaps, and even allowing you to influence them is kind of a cool one, and the little things you can do like the formula, the standee, or about half a dozen others are neat. The problem is...I'd seen this done before. I'm an old hand at scifi. My mother read Red Planet to me and my sister when we were kids. I was raised on things like Sliders. Multiverse theory and time compression is easy for me to get behind, but this is...simple is the best word for it. It pretends at being complex, because to the layman it actually is since there are people who have trouble wrapping their head around effect being the thing that initiates its own cause, along with predestination and worlds outside of time. I'm not one of those, so the premise bored me quickly, not helped by the milk toast protagonist, or the lackluster portrayal of time travel. The Eternity Organization of Issac Asimov would have been so much cooler to have here, people screwing this time to 'benefit' mankind, but doing so in the most dickish ways possible because they're a bunch of assholes. Or Robert Heinlein's Time Corps. which would have just walked in and shot people, because they take the direct most route to what they want, and while they like to minimize damage along the way, they don't pussyfoot around. Heck, Timeshift from just a few years earlier had more time travel abilities and things to do with them, allowing for a few interesting ways. It even said that reversing time before the current era on living beings causes them to go nuts, which is a neat idea. Or, for a bit in the future, Re:Visions on Netflix is an anime that does a 'Time War' better even than Doctor Who, as it was more than just people blasting at each other. In that, the antagonist and protagonist are outside of time, allowing them to screw with their personal timelines, trying to create circumstances where only one of them exists anymore. Watched in episode order, there are the odd moments, and strange happenstances that just pile up and up. Watching again after they'd given you the final revelation, and everything clicks. Heck, Pulllea Magi Madoka Magicka(I probably mispelled that), deals with the idea of a time reset, and even of time loops causing changes due to building, 'Karmic Destiny' around the one whom the timeloop is based. All of those are more complex than, Time Travel is possible, but it can't change anything because predestination is a thing. That, I think, is the problem. This world is not interesting on its own, not enough anyway. The characters NEED to be the driving force here, especially once they establish that the time crash is coming. But none of them can carry that load, and even the revelation that 'shifters are people and always have been shifters because they exist in all points in their own personal timeline simultaneously' isn't good enough, especially since, well, like you said, we know little to nothing about them, and never will given everything else. It would have helped if our protagonists in this picked up on stuff easier, but they couldn't assume all the players could wrap their heads around the concepts, again remember when people were confused by the MCU's multiverse? They were aiming for that same audience, rather than a more hardcore scifi audience., even though that was who Remedy targeted with Alan Wake. They wanted the Max Payne audience though, and so they went for a wider net. Obviously, given what happened, we know it didn't work. I'm rambling now, but suffice it to say, of the 3 'Remedy-verse' games, this was the one I sold. Yes, that's right, after bitching about him, I still own my old copy of Alan Wake. I haven't played it since I beat it when I first bought it, and never played the DLCs, but I kept it. Quantum Break though, it didn't deserve to be kept, and so I shipped it off. Sad I did given the prices now, but eh, it happens. I still have copies of some old SMT games worth more. IMO, what this game needed wasn't to drop the Live Action stuff, as that was it's Unique Selling Point, but more...lean into them as the book ends of each idea. Those are the places where you have the viewer just watching and listening, so use them for that. Make our protagonist a man of action, not a man of words. Heck, maybe go Silent with him, like he himself is already a shifter when the game starts, because he will have been going to become one, and thus explaining his powers, and 'future flashes' he gets because he's seeing all of time play out at once. Have the live action bits give us backstory for the world. Heck, make them flashes he's having to characters he's seeing, or shaking hands with, giving him info he wasn't supposed to have, at least he thinks so, until the end, he gets to the Liferaft, and discovers the Contingency is someone absorbing the Time Crash into themselves, and thus becoming a sort of 'split-shifter'. Add in them being stalked by a shadow for most of the game, that turns out to be themself from a later point in the timeline trying to stop them, something you figure out only as you turn on the thing, ensuring both your own damnation and the time crash to come, and you have a nice lead into others trying to fix this later, as you become the big bad for the series, above and beyond the idiots who made this device.
@SomethingKindaOoof
@SomethingKindaOoof 5 ай бұрын
Finally.. You know I've waited a long time for someone to do this but properly! Congrats man! We all love Luke Stephens but that guy has changed so much with his content that it's very cringe to watch now. You have blown me away with this upload man! Very well done Sir!
@Jpcraque
@Jpcraque 3 ай бұрын
Luke stephens the youtuber/streamer??
@SomethingKindaOoof
@SomethingKindaOoof 3 ай бұрын
@@Jpcraque Yes bud..
@blightchip4236
@blightchip4236 2 жыл бұрын
Remedy’s forgotten game it might be the worst out of all of them and the gameplay might be very repetitive but the story telling is absolutely insane
@raresmacovei8382
@raresmacovei8382 2 жыл бұрын
Gameplay is great in Quantum Break. Problem is the game is fun when you get all collectibles to max out the power AND play it agressive. Without upgrades and playing it as a cover shooter, it's really tedious.
@couchpotato2222
@couchpotato2222 Жыл бұрын
@@raresmacovei8382 Ah. The classic case of "you're playing it wrong" that the next game had to reteach (Demon's/Dark Souls shielding-> Bloodbourne attacking to get health back)
@raresmacovei8382
@raresmacovei8382 Жыл бұрын
@@couchpotato2222 Not a lot of games allow you play to play them wrong to this degree ... but I do believe Quantum Break is one of them.
@HeatherHolt
@HeatherHolt Жыл бұрын
Holy shit I forgot littlefinger was in this
@jaffinator2166
@jaffinator2166 8 ай бұрын
ALAN WAKE 2 SPOILERS BELOW!!!!!!! So there are two characters in Alan Wake 2 who are supposed to be references to Quantum Break. Sherriff Breaker, who's played by the same actor as Jack Joyce, and the previously hyped up Mr. Door. I've heard that the role was originally going to be for Lance Reddick, however due to scheduling conflicts and the actor's unfortunate passing last year, it did not happen (David Harewood still crushed it). It's heavily implied through clues like dialogue and the word "shifter" written on the ground of the "Herald of Darkness" section that Breaker and Door are alternate universe versions of Jack and Hatch, intrinsically connected across timelines. This makes me love how Remedy was able to connect their connected universe with Quantum Break while getting around the legality of it.
@gabby3036
@gabby3036 Жыл бұрын
If you're, like me, a big fan of Lance Reddick (in all his forms), I can't recommend the show "Fringe" highly enough. It's an amazing show all on its own, but Lance Reddick brings that gruff exterior/heart of gold energy to it. And I know the Resident Evil show on Netflix got (deservedly) poor reception but Lance Reddick is fully worth watching it - he's (no joke) Albert Wesker and where they take it is genuinely a blast to watch for that alone. He also did voice-acting and one of my favorite roles of his is in Rick & Morty "Vindicators 3: The Return of Worldender". Thank you, Mr. Reddick, for your work and talent. The world is a little less fun without you.
@Liam_Phoenix
@Liam_Phoenix Жыл бұрын
He also plays Sylens in the two Horizon games!
@bidzapfc
@bidzapfc 7 ай бұрын
I would urge you to reconsider Jacks role in this. Reason he was invited to campus was because his brother went missing and Monarch wanted him back. Long story short I still think its better than Control :D
@HansAlRachid
@HansAlRachid 9 ай бұрын
I recently tried to play this game after going through Alan Wake 1 and Control again and loving the hell out of both of those games - man, the pacing in Quantum Break can be a _real_ slog. I enjoyed the somewhat basic, but visually exciting gameplay as such, but those bits genuinely do make up only a tiny fraction of the experience. What a bizarre, heavily flawed idea. I love Remedy, but this one absolutely did not click for me at all. It certainly doesn't help that the TV show elements just come across as sort of inept either. They had a handful of fantastic actors available, but the cinematography and colour grading could not be any more bland and really undercuts any and all attempts at drama in those bits to me.
@VLStelking
@VLStelking 2 жыл бұрын
This video has provided me entertainment for many, many lunches and dinners, thanks
@CrisisDispenser
@CrisisDispenser Ай бұрын
1:44:00 man was on the money. Alan Wake 2 confirms this.
@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009
@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 2 жыл бұрын
I just watched a Dutchman fast foward through a fucking game
@elijahemerson4934
@elijahemerson4934 2 жыл бұрын
When I played through, I think that the show and the game were mismatched at the end. I would meet up with a character in the game that had died in the show. Not deal breaking but it threw me off
@BogdanBelcea
@BogdanBelcea Ай бұрын
Thank You!
@FNGLHR
@FNGLHR 5 ай бұрын
I despise any time travel storyline that relies on preordained bullshit. "We can't change anything, might as well accept fate and the fact we're doomed." It's a pessimistic belief system and if its used to shore up a time travel story it angers me. Because it doesn't make sense quantum mechanics wise and is a fatalistic position for all story telling. Thanks for telling me this though, Monty, I now know I'll never get this game, easy achievement completion or otherwise. It is antithetical to my personal tastes and beliefs as a creative.
@RavenStorm332
@RavenStorm332 4 ай бұрын
I agree though it is easier on the writers so that they don't have to write for infinite possibilities in a story though they could have included more choices with options so we feel as if we're setting the story
@janikesina7813
@janikesina7813 Жыл бұрын
I dont understand and reject any criticism directed at the protagonist being lame or lacking emotion and sometimes opinion. Its a formula thats a bit more realistic than the frequently used one, but otherwise doesnt stick out and doesn't harm the story in any way
@GODhandCooper
@GODhandCooper 5 ай бұрын
Hah wow, not sure I'll ever play QB but Hatch and Mr Door... And the cop chasing him in AW2 being played by the main character from this game...
@direktive4
@direktive4 8 ай бұрын
RIP Lance Reddick
@ScoutSilico
@ScoutSilico Ай бұрын
Hot damn Sam Lake is just so cool!
@Air0Sparks
@Air0Sparks Жыл бұрын
Shawn Ashmore is the only reason I bought this game. Love his Portrayal of Jinx of warehouse 13…. But yeah he needs an agent that will say enough of the basic white boy wardrobe… even Bobby drake was basic ..
@samikalastaja
@samikalastaja 10 ай бұрын
0:11:20 am I seeing things or does the driver look like Dylan?
@SirEvilestDeath
@SirEvilestDeath Жыл бұрын
I think they wanted to make Allen Wake 2 and Control 2 much bigger but didn’t have the money for the budget so they sucked up to Microsoft and made a joke project that let them get paid to play around with new ideas and technology they plan to use in the future. It’s almost like Freddy got Fingered where someone is paid a lot of money to make something and they didn’t really want to do they just had fun making it fun in their own way but sloppy and not intended to be the next big IP so they could fund their passion projects. I’m not sure to be honest but Allen Wake 2 will be the showcase to see if giving this studio the time and money to make what they want how they wanted all along pays off. Then I expect a Control 2 to be announced and for us to learn it wasn’t a lake, not even an ocean, it was an entire planet and now we see there are more out there that are completely different…
@hawkins347
@hawkins347 Жыл бұрын
You got it backwards. They made the Microsoft deal during the development of the first Alan Wake. Microsoft refused to greenlight AW2 and Remedy couldn't make it while MS owned the distribution rights to the IP. They commissioned Quantum Break instead. Control only came out after Remedy parted with Microsoft, they no longer work with them, so AW2 is free of MS meddling.
@FugginPhil
@FugginPhil Жыл бұрын
Just stumbled onto your channel and I'm glad I did. Always down for more humor-laced thoughtful essays on games I haven't played. I'm about to binge your whole backlog.
@solidneo9026
@solidneo9026 Жыл бұрын
I bought Xbox one cuz of this game Remedy is my fav game Studio Good video Great job man
@Liam_Phoenix
@Liam_Phoenix Жыл бұрын
Wow, just....just wow, MAN, I'm just really glad I bought it for 8 bucks
@mysticalhero2460
@mysticalhero2460 2 жыл бұрын
Dang it's been a while since I even heard the name Quantum Break
@a.g.m8790
@a.g.m8790 2 жыл бұрын
I need to play Quantum Break now that I have an Xbox. It looks like a videogame type of videogame
@Someone-lg6di
@Someone-lg6di Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the final boss fight is a shifter
@JakeMckay1738
@JakeMckay1738 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it looks like Paul became a full on shifter after the fight.
@Ren-cl8zx
@Ren-cl8zx Жыл бұрын
could we get a list of music used, I loved the track used when talking about the 1st junction
@WarrenEBB
@WarrenEBB Жыл бұрын
a) i thought the whole point of the game/ending was that everyone told Jack he couldn't change time. But he's the hero. so he's going to prove them wrong. (plus, isn't the whole point of Serene's power that he has choice? that everyone else perceives it as inevitable, but he knows he had a choice at that key moment?) b) i thought the weird drinking game as a nod to Kiss Kiss Bang Bang where the two leads flirt by comparing other people in bar (party?) to famous actors/characters. I figured they were wagering who would break it off with the person flirting with them first, so the lady lifting her phone showed her lack of interest. so she was breaking off the flirt. shrug?
@auran5
@auran5 2 жыл бұрын
I'm only like 18 minutes in but I had to comment before continuing "He's too dumb for a character arc!" I ugly fucking laughed xD
@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009
@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 2 жыл бұрын
Would Max payne 3 be part of the remedy shared universe ?
@MontyZander
@MontyZander 2 жыл бұрын
It has been YEARS since I played Max Payne 3. The thing is - MP is loosely supposed to be Alex Casey - but I can't tell if that's just a Remedy in-joke or universe relevant! I read an interesting theory that we'll be playing as Alex Casey in Alan Wake 2 so honestly by this point who knows
@TikkaQrow
@TikkaQrow Жыл бұрын
1:31:00 It's almost like the devs never played Prince of Persia Sands of Time they could have blatantly copied Sands rewind mechanics and no one would have noticed
@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009
@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 2 жыл бұрын
Saying "saving *the world* " while the time is stoped, hmmm Jack Joyce translated to england's english is "Dio Brando", coincidence ?
@carpetlayenful
@carpetlayenful Жыл бұрын
Jack like time is stable, the warping of their core mechanic. Their trek changes destroying the world's design. In a sense you, because you you cannot perceive 2 existences. The mental fabric like time breaks down.
@SamHaugen
@SamHaugen Жыл бұрын
I guess the story was kind of interesting, but I remember my xbox controller disconnecting because the dumbass live action sections were so long. The live action clips were really bad but the gameplay was arguably worse. It completely lacked depth and I really wish there was a cover system.
@Hugo_Tate
@Hugo_Tate Жыл бұрын
what're the names of the background songs you used?? they're all really cool
@Eassstt
@Eassstt 5 ай бұрын
First song is "When the Sunrise" from Yehezkel Raz
@joshakins4923
@joshakins4923 Жыл бұрын
Great content
@DavidKen878
@DavidKen878 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video.
@TrueDiox
@TrueDiox Жыл бұрын
Watching this just cements my idea that I ruined this game for myself by playing Control first. I really like the story of this game, it's right up my alley. But I can't stand the way in which it was delivered.
@GothGfGG
@GothGfGG Жыл бұрын
Binging al your vids 🎉
@OnDavidsBrain
@OnDavidsBrain 11 ай бұрын
Nissan out of 10!
@MithrilRoshi
@MithrilRoshi Жыл бұрын
However this all comes down too; A time game where NOTHING CAN BE CHANGED is not a very good time based game because... what is the point of time powers then?
@iamdjared
@iamdjared 2 жыл бұрын
I dunno dude. I think spreadsheets are pretty sexy. Not to mention their sexy creators. :p
@dralakba-dusk31
@dralakba-dusk31 2 жыл бұрын
oh boi when was the last time I've heard about this... game hahahaha
@wrenbeck3370
@wrenbeck3370 Жыл бұрын
Ok but like. The time-effects look a _lot_ like the anomalies from Primeval. Anyway,
@Christopher-md7tf
@Christopher-md7tf 9 ай бұрын
5:15 Remedy was never owned by Microsoft, they just published and financed several of their games and own the Quantum Break IP. Also, Sam Lake *always* has a shaky voice lol, I think you're reading way too much into that video.
@MIAsuxdonkey
@MIAsuxdonkey Жыл бұрын
Oof I really like his videos the one on control was great too, but every time I hear him say Goot I cringe… it’s just a personal thing probably but I just feel secondhand embarrassment when people try to make ‘things’ happen, like new words or slang…. Not saying this is what he’s trying to do, just saying that to me it may as well be… Also, it’s just a bad word. Using the first letter of one word and switching it with the other is mostly just unimaginative….
@Delfin007-d3w
@Delfin007-d3w 7 ай бұрын
Ist es ein Open World Spiel schreib mir mal BITTE
@MontyZander
@MontyZander 7 ай бұрын
Es ist nicht
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