Queen - Hammersmith 1975 - Live vs. Overdubs (Episode 2)

[@Chinwonder2]

Timestamps: 0:00 - Title / Explanation 0:36 - Bob Harris Introduction 1:41 - Now I'm Here 5:08 - Ogre Battle 6:28 - White Queen 9:22 - Bohemian Rhapsody (Verses) 11:03 - Killer Queen 12:08 - The March Of The Black Queen 12:34 - Bohemian Rhapsody (Reprise) 12:59 - Bring Back That Leroy Brown 13:15 - Brighton Rock 13:35 - Son And Daughter 13:51 - Keep Yourself Alive 14:41 - Liar 15:58 - In The Lap Of The Gods...Revisited 18:41 - Big Spender 18:59 - Jailhouse Rock 19:16 - End Of The Broadcast 21:11 - Seven Seas Of Rhye 23:26 - See What A Fool I've Been

[@andreacrippa7220]

Hi can you do this for other live? also from the 80s if you can.thank you

[@nickplj12]

Here before this gets 500 replies

[@jmart9414]

'Big Spender' even in 2015, Freddie's voice is harsh and gravelly at beginning after being backstage... Hmmm?

[@Cat-hw1vh]

Where did you get this info from? Where you involved or someone you know involved? Are you an engineer?

[@Hillsoe]

Thanks dude

[@ronaldreagan1068]

Can’t wait for the hour and a half episode for Wembley 86.

[@pelematthews7416]

LOL, especially one vision

[@ahard-daysnight6659]

And live killers.

[@pelematthews7416]

LOL

[@mattmcgourty106]

ahard-daysnight live killers would be such a pain. Also we don’t have all the sources for each show spliced in. Similar to Led Zeppelin’s song remains the same

[@uliger]

well.. live killers happened... wembley .. not yet

[@thomasnaguit9674]

Ah yes, finally, I wanna know the original audio of In The Lap Of The Gods revisited live

[@BobHarley]

8:05 it hurts me 8:15 that chord sounds pretty nice

[@jmart9414]

Agree with that sweet chord

[@sydneytaylor8128]

Yeah that chord was obviously intentional, no reason to remove it

[@user-hy5jy7sf9j]

Sydney Taylor yeah they did improvs and stuff idk why it was taken out

[@chost-059]

Yea that weird quitar bit was nice

[@metallica-fan]

For Liar, they had to change the camera angle on the Official Release to hide the mistake apparently.

[@KillaQueenFred]

I always choose to hear the original version..... even w some mishaps, they're still amazing!!! Queen will live forever ❤💗👑👑

[@pietromoviesNL]

15:42 oh god this is so painfull, it legit gave me chills

[@metsanmet582]

In 1989 i used to have an old copied tape of the hammersmith odeon 75 and, when i heard the 2015 official release, i was surprised about how good they sound. I mean, surely better then i remember on that tape, now i know why. 😂 Anyway one of the greatest band ever.

[@SafiRo00]

22:10 I can hear the Magic Tour Freddie there

[@dylanrinker6831]

He never DARED hit A4s in that tour

[@aqua_bree]

You can tell Freddie's pissed @ 15:43 lol, we know damn well there was a row backstage between them after the show 😅

[@РоманПанських]

Looking forward and simultaneously watching Freddie’s Tribute concert translation

[@TheAnime06]

They removed John Deacon's vocal. How could they?

[@Chinwonder2]

With QPL having access to the multitracks from this show, they are able to just mute John's mic from the mix.

[@MargotRecabarren]

Chinwonder2 ..., poor John .!!! 😢

[@CoolJosh2002]

Pretty sure John also didn’t like his singing voice as well...

[@jacobh9344]

Alan Larrosa can we can get some cheese on toasts for. John?

[@popxax6776]

@@CoolJosh2002 Yeah, John sadly doesn't like his voice

[@allkindsofcollecting]

And yet in Queen: The Greatest, Simon Lupton calls this a flawless performance!

[@crazy4gta1]

I would love for someone to make a definitive version of all the official releases. Have the official audio play for most of the show, and then have it quickly switch audio to the raw audio whenever there’s a correction made

[@sherryheim5504]

I think they both sound fine. It is live and better than anyone else would/could be doing live these days. Sometimes it is not possible to hear yourselves on stage which was a problem for the QUEEN band at Live Aid but if you watched or listened to that show as it was happening, you didn't hear any major flaws. Nitpickers and haters will always try to tear things apart and spoil the party for everyone else, they are living a very sad life IMHO. Who even knows at this point if both being presented are even being picked up on the same mic or from the same taped recording at the time. Just enjoy the music, I am grateful to still have these available from shows over 40 years ago.

[@khiemvu8667]

The uploader is not trying to hurt Freddie or Queen's legacy. They are only pointing out the needless editing done on official releases that Queen Productions Limited (QPL) has done. IMO they should just release the concerts with remastered audio/video and without the editing, and I think the uploader shares a similar sentiment.

[@ivee3885]

14:57, Rog hits the toms on the original broadcast, but on the 2015, he hits the snare

[@sydneytaylor8128]

Awesome video! This is one of my favorite Queen live performances so it's fascinating to see this! I also really appreciate that you labeled the 2015 release vs. the original.

[@AxtonRailFan924]

The unpached “what you want” in the original broadcast is actually studio phrasing!

[@muc_michi]

Did anyone notice that this video is 24:12 long ? (y'know 24/12/75)

[@proprionessuno3035]

Actually, it's 24:11 24/11/91...

[@muc_michi]

@@proprionessuno3035 well, that's a weird thing about KZbin. For example if you search "queen live vs overdubs" it's 24:12, if you watch the video, it says 24:11...

[@proprionessuno3035]

@@muc_michi u're right

[@luixpaproductions]

I'm SO excited

[@SamDeeksRelovedGuitars]

At risk of being a nit-picker... the original singing is sharp, not flat. My ears told me that watching this - but I sampled the audio and put snippets of each side by side as a direct comparison. In fact both the singing AND the accompanying guitar are sharp in the original which strongly suggests that it's a tape speed / tape stretch error that would be imprinted either on the original or during a subsequent duplication to tape - until that speed variation is finally fixed forever in the digital format.

[@darkprose]

That doesn’t mean it wasn’t pitch corrected or overdubbed. Are you saying that from start to finish the sound is sharp or just the individual moments in this comparison video are sharp when it says they are flat? Whether sharp or flat, the individual _changes_ are audible. And tape speed or stretch errors account for every instance of overdubbing or pitch correction throughout the range of official releases? That seems really unlikely. Singers and musicians make mistakes live. Of course Queen makes a host of mistakes in the sheer athleticism of their concerts. No big deal. It’s not just tape speed, Sam.

[@SamDeeksRelovedGuitars]

@@darkprose I just noticed that the singing and instrumentation both seemed sharp and suggested it could be a result of tape stretch / tape playback speed. Have you noticed how so many old classic albums are NOT playable-along-able to? It's because a) they may not have been tuned to pitch to begin with or b) they were tuned to pitch but the sharpness was introduced by tape speed issues. Yes, sometimes all singers hit sharp or flat notes but that usually stands out against the 'in tune' instruments. I only referenced tape speed because I was recording with tape from the 80s on into the digital formats and noted the speed control and tape stretch issues and their effect on tuning over time (and the repeated bouncing-down of tracks in the build up of a piece of music when limited to 4 and 8-track tape recorders....)

[@metallica-fan]

Thanks for uploading the part two of Live vs. Overdubs Chin!

[@MoonlightNothing]

You should NOT mess with ART!

[@edgarferrer8084]

He's not? Are you talking to Chinwonder2 or someone else?

[@darkprose]

It’s also entertainment.

[@BobHarley]

15:18 Isn't this shot from another song? 15:19 Freddie immadiately starts walking 15:43 It's amusing what happened here, but it just happens.

[@bigl1651]

The shot is from Son to Daughter

[@barrymitchell6444]

Well spotted, Bob 👍

[@jmart9414]

Live is Live and I believe during this televised performance, ALL did their most powerful to be as accurate to studio due to FIRST LIVE BROADCAST.

[@mario486waluigi2]

11:22 Freddie sounds robotic from that pitch correction

[@tiffanycurtis4794]

QUEEN THE LORDS OF ROCK ZEPPELIN THE GODS OF ROCK TWO OF THE BEST IN MUSIC HISTORY❤

[@ymoom2269]

진짜 쩐다... 최고에요! Thank you very much!!!

[@danialkim]

Original one was better than overdubbed

[@deklangrant588]

Except liar

[@frannpoveda]

seven seas of rhye original sounds pretty awful in some parts

[@unhingedconnoisseur164]

im so sick of people saying "freddie was sick and he still did perfectly" or "justin beiber didnt make an appearance but freddie did when he was sick" this video proves why, and im happy it was made

[@darkprose]

Yeah, we need to stop turning entertainers into gods and demons.

[@SqueakyPickles2013]

As a new fan that only heard this via the official release, it definitely made Queen more enjoyable, only now do I enjoy it's natural form, I feel pitch correct is better for new fans

[@Sam-wp5ut]

Yeah, the real live versions were never meant to be recorded and listened to again in their unadulterated forms. When Queen did release the recordings officially, Freddie helped make overdubs. Of course, since Freddie passed, more people want an authentic experience of the concert, so those people can come and listen to bootlegs on youtube.

[@zafraditasuwunt6952]

11:14 mmMMM.. I lOvE tHis

[@dylanrinker6831]

I knew white queen was Overdubbed!

[@jpw6893]

Is it just me that can barely tell the difference?

[@giegiebee1959]

Same 😁

[@AdamLB]

It's not as obvious as the rainbow gig.

[@zaneroote5798]

_Liar flashbacks_

[@johnfowler9424]

@@zaneroote5798 *the cue...*

[@Musiccollectionyeah]

where is the tv broadcast version come from?

[@Chinwonder2]

It’s the QTV version shown at fan conventions in the early 2000s

[@Musiccollectionyeah]

@@Chinwonder2 is there a link?

[@ozkarmm6371]

Freddie:LIIIIAR LIA- *😫 face* *processes* *keeps going well *

[@timmytunes348]

Liar always gets messed up. In 1974 at the rainbow there was a power cut. Here, Roger missed his cue.

[@daru_snm]

COMO VAS A SACAR A JOHN MIRA QUE LINDO QUE CANTA 17:08

[@margowsky]

They sound like they're overdubbed with the original recording. It's a pity they went through and did this. Obviously not at Freddie's request considering he was long gone. The changes are so slight that it doesn't seem to be worth the time and money that must have been spent to do the overdubs.

[@user-hy5jy7sf9j]

They did overdubs when he was alive too so i think he was ok with it. Whoever autotuned the rainbow did an awful job though and i doubt he would've liked that.

[@melancholyfreddie3411]

Poor Jhon😢

[@LoveIsAnOldfashionedWord]

These videos just make me feel so cheated somehow. 😔

[@benitostudiosofficial8701]

Can you upload more please?

[@romanochannel9793]

Ilove queen live in rainbow and hammersmith odeon and newscast

[@sunkistfox4694]

i wonder if we can get back johns voice from QPL and get the multitrack so we only have johns vocals in, but hey, its just a long shot from the dark

[@johnfowler9424]

I wnjoy the og brodcast. It shows that this band isn’t perfect, but there the best

[@PencilllCase]

They were perfect...

[@margotmargot9667]

FREDDIE MERCURY Forever ♥️♥️♥️♥️🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹.....Il Numero 1 💕💕💕

[@ms.chuckfu1088]

I can't imagine Bri leaving anything alone that wasn't 💯. Can you? Interesting comparison. Looking forward to more.

[@SamanthaGuttesen]

Yeah I get the feeling he's a perfectionist. No wonder Freddie would get pissed off with him. Didn't Freddie phone up Rheinhold Mack, to set up the studio, to get the basic track of Crazy little thing, put down, because he knew, once Brian got involved he'd take forever.

[@pancho110193]

Freddie recorded overdubs for the Wembley show (and probably montreal), and the 4 of them worked in Live Killers, so Brian wasn't/isn't alone in trying to fix everything they could when it came to live shows.

[@tgreen420]

Where did you get the original QTV broadcast of the concert?

[@Meofcourse2319]

Does anyone know where I can find the original broadcast?

[@luixpaproductions]

Whens part 3 gonna come out?

[@Chinwonder2]

Soon! :)

[@luixpaproductions]

@@Chinwonder2 what concert it's gonna be Of?

[@EthanThompson-Murray]

It's Hyde Park, Earls Court, and Houston.

[@NateEMGMusic]

I get why they would correct the chorus vocals because it does sound bad towards the end

[@Chinwonder2]

Yeah, the mixing is all over the place, and John's vocals aren't the greatest.

[@teresakano5132]

Live shows have miss but i love love freddys voice

[@diugsmith9777]

SO DEAR FRIENDS!

[@K_Jailberg]

Live at Hungary 86 Official vs Original Broadcast maybe?

[@metallica-fan]

Chinwonder2 will probably do Live vs. Overdubs base on the years of the Queen. The next one would probably be Rock Montreal?

[@K_Jailberg]

@@metallica-fan Rock Montreal probably just Montreal 2001 and 2007 version

[@ellenmyers971]

Just my opinion but I think people should leave Freddie's an Early Queen performances alone we true fans don't care if his voice was flat or cracked or whatever that was Freddie's learning years an what a great job he did conquering an controlling his voice an stage 👑🌟💫💗🕊️🌹✌️🥰😍

[@RossAdkinsonMusic]

Whats your next ep on? Wembley 86? Montreal 81? Budapest 86? Maybe

[@Numb_Erone]

Where could I find the original broadcast?

[@K24B]

11:22 wtf??

[@WorksOfMagic]

Oh boy, look at the like counter.

[@TheQueenSpace]

Freddie, Roger. and Brian was a little bit sick in this day but still the great concert

[@marriusmal]

I hate overdubbing and pitch correction. What's left if you do so?

[@rosettaschiavone3731]

FREDDIE MERCURY SOUNDS PERFECT 👌 NO MATTER HOW HE SINGS 🎤 PERFECT 🎤🕺🎵🎹🎤🍸 LOVE ❤️ YOU MY DARLING FREDDIE 🌹❤️🙏🕺🎤

[@iamjudy6518]

R.I.P Ryan newton 😭

[@dongarrido4409]

😭😭😭😭

[@slimshady27]

I can hardly hear the difference because it's still similar without auto tune

[@darkprose]

There’s autotuned Queen on the official channel, don’t worry.

[@jmart9414]

Roger's mis tempo beat seemed the most serious during LIAR during actual live show... But haven't finished watching the vid. Whew...

[@ivee3885]

where did you get the original release?

[@BobHarley]

It's been circulating for years as bootlegs

[@lorellariccetti3827]

Freddie freddie freddie freddie freddie ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟Forever ❤️

[@FluorescentTeddy]

QPL are the George Lucas of the music... they ruin the original material with overproduction of unnecessary effects

[@darkprose]

Pitches and notes are not unnecessary effects in fucking _music._

[@BobHarley]

@@darkprose They don't want us to think that Freddie Mercury was a human, that's the problem

[@ariesmercurio1869]

Totally,half of their releases are overdubbed,remixed or pitched They even included autotune in the Rainbow shows,just horrid

[@ildateresinhacorreadias2104]

Frediie Mercury uma lenda

[@jacobh9344]

John Deacon in Liar at the end of his bass solo... 🧀🍞

[@nickplj12]

hi

[@glyniswhitbread5417]

I think only a would be if they could be would dig so hard to find fault with Freddie Mercury vocals and Queen sound. If you don't know how a singer's voice matures over the years you have no place reviewing them. There will never be another Freddie Mercury and that's why he is called a Legend. I can't find fault with them and I wouldn't even presume to try. RIP Freddie Mercury 🎼

[@khiemvu8667]

This person is not trying to hurt Freddie or Queen's legacy. They are only pointing out the needless editing done on official releases that Queen Productions Limited (QPL) has done. IMO they should just release the concerts with remastered audio/video and without the editing, and I think the uploader shares a similar sentiment.

[@JourneyLiveCompilations]

15:42

[@timthatguitarboiiiiiiiiii3742]

he hada cold u now

[@theliberationstation8457]

i just want the real deal, "mistakes" and all. For perfection just listen to the studio albums!

[@MoonlightNothing]

FUNNY THING THOUGH, It's great either way, so leave it be!

[@delilahm9692]

I love both versions: it’s always Queen;-)

[@pariosd3]

The originals were all fine, live shows shouldn't be overedited.

[@JohnnyLaps]

These are so slight,jeez

[@ariesmercurio1869]

Another case of an official release ruining a great concert The original performance is way superior than the horrible 2015 release

[@ariesmercurio1869]

That's why i hate Queen's official live albums thousand of unnecesary overdubbing that kills the live experience

[@bohemianrhapsody2150]

유언비어 퍼트리지 마세요 ㅋㅋ

[@ariesmercurio1869]

Pointless overdubbing and editing...