Queen - Rio, Tokyo & Live Aid 1985 - Live vs. Overdubs (Episode 7)

[@luisxd3708]

27:49 que potenciaaaa

[@BardBreaker]

My understanding of the movie was that used a mixture of Martel's, Rami's and Freddie's vocals so it would of course stand to reason there's some editing/dubbing done there.

[@thegreatwallofting]

Not to mention they had the footage between the second and and third chorus on the live aid scene during we are the champions completely reversed

[@merrittdeshon6300]

“Now I’m Here” Original Vocals Vs Overdubs for Rock In Rio January 12, 1985 are @15:12. Chinwonder2 forgot to put that in the description. ;)

31:36 Surprisingly; they didn't overdub hi-hats, which Ben was hitting as opposed to the crash/ride (and later, the china hits at 31:38) in the original. Also, it's quite horrible that they filmed CLTCL during the sunset because the lighting became inconsistent compared to the other songs.

[@feduwtc]

yeah i feel like the editing of this scene is kinda shit

[@mario486waluigi2]

25:39 I can’t unhear this vocal glitch.

[@metallica-fan]

Lol, the explosion overdub in Tie Your Mother Down seems to be just a sound effect 🤣

[@parsak.sadjadi3763]

13:57 - they should've kept that.

[@tibogzinstrumentals]

They kept for the 1985 release, for "The Works" 2011 Deluxe Edition they used studio note

[@marciebulsaraorcutt]

IT'S JUST SO GOOD TO HAVE YOU BACK !!! ....This last week has been like CHRISTMAS.🤩

[@big_smoke7t]

Man somebody to love on rio night was fantastic, too bad they cut it in the official release. Queen production always disappoints

[@feduwtc]

i think it was more Globo's fault too

[@TheMrJuan04]

I've been waiting for this for a month, fabulous!

[@tgfsad6973]

I can't wait damn I was waiting so long for this

[@miguael_ribuera]

14:33 you can also put the second night audio into the video and see how it looks

[@thischannelhasabigname1755]

Your back!! 😃

[@prensssss]

killer queen and somebody to love in rio😢

[@miguael_ribuera]

They need to release Queen Live In Rio both nights

[@thegreatwallofting]

But Queen productions would like us to focus more on the Wembley shows from 1986 because apparently those are pinnacle Queen performances. Like we never hear of Japan 85 or Buenos Aires which I would love to see those shows get another rerelease. I wish they would just release all filmed shows. So many people are missing out on other great performances because all they do is focus on Wembley 86 and Montreal 81.

[@miguael_ribuera]

@@thegreatwallofting you forgot Live Aid 1985, because alot love that concert

[@oliverafton1444]

​@@thegreatwallofting They also should focus in not just reuploading a random song every 2 weeks that was played live.

[@WorksOfMagic]

Like Freddie said on multiple occasions, absolutely perfect. I can't believe I missed the premiere, but I'm glad I could watch it anyway. Hopefully this stays for good on the channel. Can't wait for the Wembley episode. This will be a fun one, I'm sure, especially with the ridiculous amount of different mixes 2nd Wembley had, with potential mixing/editing differences.

[@darkprose]

13:56 That one is painfully obvious. Flaws and mistakes like this one need tools like overdubbing and pitch correction.

[@vincentmichaelcomia4307]

Yes he is back again

[@JesonWu-z9d]

4:48 QP took a mediocre Seven Seas version instead of a SUPERB Under Pressure version 😅 Rule No. 1: Never take the better vocal performances by Freddie!

[@kannachthemusiclover2869]

Live aid was overdubbed?? My life is a lie.

[@WorksOfMagic]

Kind of. Boh Rhap The Movie mostly made some adjustments to Freddie's vocals so they synced with Rami Malek's mouth, completely butchering them in the process. Some parts of Roger's drums also had some minor overdubs to match with Ben Hardy's acting. Otherwise not much else iirc.

[@frigidlava617]

For the movie

[@metallica-fan]

Your life was a lie because Queen Productions never ever gave the real thing. They always have to overdub or pitch correct Freddie’s vocals just to make everything seem perfect. 😪

[@kannachthemusiclover2869]

@@metallica-fan I know that cause I'm a fan of these live vs overdubs series, I just thing live aid is 100% real.(and I'm correct, they just edited for the movie.)

[@metallica-fan]

@@kannachthemusiclover2869 for the official release in 2018/19 (i forgot the year), it was definitely touched up by Queen Productions because to them, “why not?” 🤣. yeah. however, the official Live Aid mix whereas is true to what was performed that day, so nothing is changed. 🥹👍🏻

[@tomgallagher655]

So excited to see the Wembley episode!

[@barrymitchell6444]

So excited? Some of us were actually there, loser.

[@max101victory]

I think Marc did a fantastic job with mixing in the Bohemian Rhapsody. You could certainly tell it was him singing in certain scenes. But his voice still was quite close to Freddie. Great video! Always enjoy this series. I'm curious to see if there are any other Queen concerts we will see officially released. And potentially if QueenProductions will butcher the audio of choose to leave it.

[@silasaraujo2849]

I don't bother with mixing and image changes. Now I just don't understand why they cut so many songs!

[@feduwtc]

i understand they had to change Freddie's vocals in the Live Aid but some of it sounds so weird, my biggest problem however is they cut so much of the og performance not only by shortening or completly removing songs but they also took out some stuff like Roger hits on his drum (he was probably tuning) and John bass noises during the ay-oh section or how they couldve make Spikey's guitar in Hammer To Fall louder or even added a new one if they coukdnt

[@vadim_usr09]

Por que eliminaron tantas canciones del lanzamiento oficial

[@Chinwonder2]

Supongo que se limitaron a sesenta minutos para el lanzamiento.

[@NicolasPentray]

Porque originalmente se lanzó en VHS.

4:53 I didn't like this change because it made the illusion that Spike played the piano. 26:09 "matters" is also edited in a similar manner as 26:22 for the same reason

[@cristinabaez4173]

YOU ARE SOOO...SOOO.. BEAUTIFULLLLL.... I LOVE AND MISS YOU A LOT MY DARLING 💋❤️💔🕊🌹

[@gearheartattackWario]

OMG YESSS finally its hereeeeeeeeeeeeeee again

[@doskhanmuafik9421]

why did they cut a lot of songs on Rio live

[@thischannelhasabigname1755]

Can't wait, will you do the next episode on Wembley and Budapest?

[@Chinwonder2]

I may have to split up the Wembley videos, dependng on how long they are as there will be plenty to talk about lol

[@WorksOfMagic]

I kinda am working on that too. With part 1 focusing on Mannheim, Newcastle and Wembley, while part 2 will focus on the latter half of the Magic Tour releases (Budapest and Knebworth). Part 2 will be the longest video by far, since I'll have to compare 4 releases for Budapest: the original theatrical release, the 1986 Live Magic mix, the 1987 VHS/Laserdisc mix and the 2012 Hungarian Rhapsody CD and Blu-Ray/DVD release. Part 1 will probably be released in late December 2022-early 2023.

[@thischannelhasabigname1755]

@@WorksOfMagic Will you include the pitch correction in the first night at Wembley?

[@WorksOfMagic]

@@thischannelhasabigname1755 You bet I will. When mentioning Wembley, I meant to say both Wembley nights after all.

[@thischannelhasabigname1755]

@@WorksOfMagic Cool!

[@jgh548]

God, those comparisons really show how they sucked the life out of the Live Aid performance in the movie. As was often the way, real life was much better.

[@frandavilacardenes]

I prefer Spike Edney's additions to be removed actually.

[@miguael_ribuera]

Agree. I dont like it so much

[@PloobyQ]

Does anyone know of any good source merges available for any of the rio nights, having a hard time finding any complete ones.

[@chewymew]

This is the most complete versions available actually. kzbin.info/www/bejne/g2bJfoqqjMt8hZo kzbin.info/www/bejne/pXvJqaurf9mYis0

[@PloobyQ]

@@chewymew These sound great! Do you happen to know about any with video. There used to be good merges on Raseraa's channel but theirs got taken down

[@chewymew]

@@PloobyQ kzbin.info/aero/PLFNWAu-1aoxEefhLB7A5lnEye08JVwaO1 The best I know of is this playlist, there's probably more you could find if you look up "Queen Live in Rio 1985" on KZbin

[@ixabelarauz4375]

Maravilloso 🥰💯 Queen 👑🌹

[@TimmyTurner_765]

Why can't I watch live vs Overdubs milton did you forget to unprivate or did it get deleted?

[@Chinwonder2]

Unfortunately it got blocked in North America :(

[@TimmyTurner_765]

Yikes that explans it

[@c_a_l5442]

Ah yes, my yearly reminder of how awful a movie Bohemian Rhapsody was.

[@lessalazar9068]

Same here

[@thegreatwallofting]

Yes what a way to waste a legacy. Had the potential to give us such a great telling of Queens story but instead we got some Hollywood hallmark crap. I mean there were so many famous concerts they performed way before Live Aid. Also to mention they take a shit on the works tour like “oop that never happened”.

[@trentoninnewjersey]

@@thegreatwalloftingtbf that was a bad tour

[@thegreatwallofting]

@@trentoninnewjersey yeah it was but still it shouldn’t be glossed over

[@feduwtc]

​@@thegreatwallofting i mean it isnt their most well known tour so it would be hard to see it getting a part on the movie but i still agree with you, that awful "Freddie breaks up the band" scene would be a little better if they were already on tour

[@alduncan3807]

Thank you for doing this. I love Queen but hate the way they tamper with stuff. Live is live!! Listener86 uploads concerts etc and their show in Munich 86 was awful in places, good listen though. As for the movie tampering, for artistic effect I guess. Keep up the analysis!!

[@silasaraujo2849]

Things got worse when Queen producers started using autotune on recent releases.

[@violettaukomska4666]

I LOVE FREDDIE MERCURY 💋❤🇮🇩

[@santiagotorresmusic]

Link rock in rio broadcast original?

[@MagicLivesEdits]

YEEEEES

[@boffyb]

One pedantic correction, not really a problem: at about 8:25 you write “segways” to mean “transitions”. The correct spelling is “segues”. I presume you were influenced by “Segway”, the brand of scooter thingies which is a pun on “segue”. Anyway, I’m greatly enjoying this as I have the whole series and all of your videos. EDIT: You use the correct spelling at about 17:15, so you probably already know this. Note to self: WATCH THE WHOLE VIDEO BEFORE COMMENTING. 2ND EDIT: Second pedantic typo note: at about 29:00, you write “vein” when the line is “all in vain”.

[@baerenonkel]

we need a complete Rock In Rio (or at least the 1st night + 2nd night highlights), but QPL are just going to autotune it anyway and that i can't stand.

[@dylanrinker6831]

Oh they've done worse.

[@GAR1947]

25:39 Absolutely despicable

[@MisterSandmanAU]

I gotta be honest, I feel like you were WAY too harsh on the Tokyo mix. It's not outstanding but its better than Montreal and Rio's original mixes. It gives the synths a chance to finally fucking breathe and not be cut. Also the drums aren't shit.

[@radamesboscolo]

See this