Quest 3 vs PSVR2 - Who Wins??

[@DiscoVRTetiana]

Which VR headset would YOU use for PCVR??

[@MarkoMaky]

I have both witth PC (running on 4080 super) and PS5 combination, MQ3 i perfer for 3D SBS movies it so clear and great to watch and it is great like a wireless experience also for trip, woork etc...

[@stylewan]

I hate wire. Period.

[@b.s.7693]

PSVR2. The missing features might get unlocked in the future, would be great (eye tracking for DFR would be so cool).

[@techinfusions]

@@b.s.7693 PCVR games developers do not use those features in their games though so they will not even be missed. DFR is not really needed on high end PCVR systems, its really useful on the PS5 console though very impressive technology, and the PSVR2 has the best looking and playing version of the No Mans Sky, I never thought I would be saying that about a console based VR headset but its a fact.

[@b.s.7693]

@@techinfusions yeah, true. Would still like to have DFR bc my GPU (RX6800) is not able to max out the headset in every situation.

[@ThatDankCheese]

Just got my PSVR2 adapter yesterday. It's amazing how much the colors pop with the headset compared to my Quest 3 and Valve Index. I also can run UEVR games much better with the PSVR2 headset over Quest 3. I honestly love all three headsets, but I'm really happy with how the PSVR2 is performing so far. Pancake lenses are the best, but it doesn't bother me one bit not having them on my Index or PSVR2.

[@dingdongchingchong8659]

I'm getting internal reflections with pancake lens when playing horror games. It's good damn annoying.

[@hunterjg777]

It depends on the biggest deal-breaker is for you. The Quest 3 is sharper, however, out the box comfort is poor (with that god-awful strap). The lenses are better, but the biggest winner for me, was the better FOV and contrast/black levels on PSVR2. For example, in Phasmophobia, the black levels and fov completely put you into the world. It was much harder to lose myself when playing this on the Quest. Yes, it's not as sharp, but the FOV + black levels + nose curtain (to completely block out outside light) + comfort makes it more immersive to me. The lesser render latency is noticeable as well, due to it being DP cable, unlike Quest that has to decode and render the signal. You will notice that in the more twitchy games. So, don't let sharpness only be the biggest decider.

[@cja51183]

Great video from my go to VR content creator! You taught me so much back when I got my Quest 2 and this video was an awesome comparison. When the adapter was announced I ended up getting PSVR2 over Quest 3 so I could also play the PS5 exclusives. I was pleased to find out much of my Quest library was also playable on PSVR2 through the pc app. Beat Saber looks better than ever now and even easier to mod!

[@DissTrackTed]

The PSVR2 isnt complete without the Globular Cluster Mod. Just like the Quest isnt complete without its 3rd party headstraps. A MUST have for any comparison with a modded Quest.

[@DeadSnail1204]

Haven't used it ( base headstrap is comfortable as is) what does it add

[@alh5470]

Bruh, I just installed mine Monday it's crazy how much it helped me stay in the sweet spot. Sucks it takes a while to get from china tho

[@Jdb63]

​@@DeadSnail1204 Increases comfort 10x by taking pressure off of the forehead and nose, and allows headset to remain in the sweet spot much easier

[@Jdb63]

@@profissaDL We're talking about the PSVR2

[@b.s.7693]

7:21 hate to say that but you missed out something 😁 There are at least 2 good add-on mods out there with the one from Globular Cluster beeing the most famous one. Same goes for audio solutions.

[@gervasiosgerva]

You just make an unfair comparison of the confort aspect. Out of the box Quest 3 standard strap is really bad. You should have compared the psvr2 with the Glogular cluster. That makes confort perfect, just like quest 3 with BoboVr.

[@mountaindrew5219]

This is the truth. PSVR2 with GC mod is my favorite HMD I’ve ever owned, and I’ve had 8.

[@ariarst8977]

I heard that psvr 2 has bigger fov and its very important. So if i didnt had quest 3 already, i would have choose psvr2 for playing on pc.

[@Nago15]

I had both, and I never noticed tha PSVR2 has better FOV. I'm not even sure it has wider FOV than my Quest2 with a thin face cover. The thing is the PSVR2 has a very small room for you nose, and because it has sharp hard plastic edges around the lenes, it if touches your nose, it's painful and completely ruining comfort. My friend with a slightly larger nose wasn't able to use it for more than 10 minutes because it was so uncomfortble for him. This means, even if the PSVR2 has a larger FOV in theory, if you have to put the lenses further for nose comfort, you end up with smaller FOV and a smaller sweet spot too. Meanwthile a Quest has so much nose space, you can use even a thinner face cover than the default one and still nothing touches your nose, so you can easily end up with higher FOV than you can achieve on the PSVR2. If you are desperate for FOV you can also set a larger IPD on the Quest3 than your real value because the sweet spot is so large you will not even notice it. One I used my Quest3 with my firend's larger IPD for a week and only noticed it when a 3D movie felt a little flat and I relized my IPD was 4mm off:D

[@robbieburns3564]

@@Nago15 Plus, the visual distortions surrounding the sweet spot means that the FOV beyond that tiny spot is pointless. It's a "field of unable-to-view" rather than a "field of view". Ironically, the old PSVR1 used pancake lenses similar to the Q3 and didn't have this problem. I don't know why Sony put so much effort into the tech, but then skimped out on the lenses and ruined any gains they engineered in.

[@Nago15]

@@robbieburns3564 The PSVR1 used Aspherical lenses, but if I remember corractly it had a larger sweet spot than the PSVR2, so yeah it seems a downgrade.

[@waleedisnowagamecatspecifi1499]

Hi Tetiana. Great video. I think the comfort section you have incorrectly mentioned psvr2 cant be modded. Globular cluster is an amazing mod which solves all comfort issues including sweat and sweet spot issue

[@LogiForce86]

Coming from the original Vive (OLED) and having gone to the Vive Pro 2 (LCD)... I will refuse any other display tech than OLED in my headsets, monitors, televisions and smartphones.

[@AlejandroLopez-wy2st]

6:55 Both headsets are designed with comfort in mind? Are you kidding me? hehehe. I mean, Quest 3 default strap is horrible and also you need a better facial interface such as the AMVR because the default one is also uncomfortable and it has light leakage. I agree it is comfortable when you get all the mods, but default? is it designed with comfort in mind? absolutely not.

[@michelverheijen6643]

Sony doesn't need your data to survive!

[@Hazmat_Guyy]

Meta doesn't need a cable to survive

[@eon5323]

Yeah instead they'll just need to sell 10 million headsets to even consider making another VR game. Enjoy your brick after they stop updating the PC patches lol

[@michelverheijen6643]

@@Hazmat_Guyy sony doesn't want you to feed their ai.

[@Hazmat_Guyy]

@@michelverheijen6643 meta doesn't want you to feed them $160 per year for free games + being able to play online

[@bhumelti636]

⁠​⁠@@Hazmat_Guyy can’t lie being wired is always the best experience. coming from a person with super fast wifi

[@DeadSnail1204]

So price is £560 ish for meta 3 with good headstrong, imo bobo with battery pack Psvr2 £529 +£50 adapter and cable if needed 10 = £590 ish so £30 more unless you got /get it when it was reduced by 200 which I imagine will go on sale again around Xmas time. I like both but for none active games on PC I would use psvr2 ,for games with a lot of movement it's nice having wireless but not necessary. Think I just like the real immersion from deep colours and 0 compression, granted pancake lenses are much nicer but I still choose old over lenses. It all comes down to preference though imo, how much you value wireless connection and pancakes vs old and no compression. Also imo if you have a ps5 already it's a no brainer

[@mountaindrew5219]

PSVR2 wins for PCVR hands down. I will never touch my Quest Pro or Quest 3 for PCVR again, as I haven’t touched the Pro for PCVR since the PSVR2 launched last year. Standalone only on headsets where PCVR is clearly an afterthought by using streaming with compression and latency.

[@RyneLanders]

Is that compression and latency there if plugged in or only via wireless streaming?

[@mountaindrew5219]

@@RyneLanders Quest is compressed when plugged in as well.

[@RyneLanders]

@@mountaindrew5219 well damn, that impacts my decisions. I really want it for the new Batman game, but I did a lot of PCVR before and that would be my main use moving forward. I wonder if they'll improve that with the release of the Quest 3 S/lite.

[@mountaindrew5219]

@@RyneLanders the next model will do the same. Quest 1-3 and Pro are all compressed through USB-C when connected to PC.

[@RyneLanders]

@@mountaindrew5219 eh, I don't think that logic holds. First, the PC connection on Quest 1 was clearly an afterthought and shipped well after that came out. The Quest 2 came out only a year after Quest 1 and at the *same time* they were still developing the Quest Link feature, and it was not a huge revision of the hardware so I'm not surprised by it maintaining the same cable. Quest 3 is where things finally diverged because it was based off the Quest Pro headset. And there's no reason a USB C cable couldn't carry the required data, as DisplayPort runs over USB-C and has far higher bandwidth than most HDMI specs which is why it's used for high end, high resolution high refresh rate monitors with enhanced HDR bit rates. So they *could* do it over that spec if they feel demand is sufficient. We'll see what they do.

[@eugenecia9424]

In steam I have the resolution set to 300% at 120 hertz. With acc, am2 and F1 24 I have a stable and smooth image. I have a 7900xtx and I get almost 120 fps. So psvr2 is better than people think.

[@Sofian375]

I already own a Q3, I was about to get rid of the psvr2 as soon as I got it, but I found that using a sharpen filter in games and movies makes a huge difference that mitigate the diffuser used by Sony to hide the sde.

[@menmabmx1995]

how to do that?

[@jlepage36]

@@menmabmx1995 ditto. please elaborate!

[@barakoas]

Like Reshade or drivers sharpening?

[@Sofian375]

@@menmabmx1995 Look for VRToolkitReshadeUniversal.

[@BoKnowsGaming]

I go back and forth a lot about which one of these is better, and worry that I made the wrong choice with the Quest 3. But watching this made me feel good about my Quest. It’s cool that we have so many great options though.

[@uspaint]

Have both and enjoy both.

[@dominykas29]

The only reason i think i should get the psvr2 is because the battery life and play time is way longer than quest 3 which dies pretty fast and takes a while to recharge

[@DiscoVRTetiana]

I mean if you use quest 3 as a pcvr headset like psvr2 then it’ll never die

[@EternalOhm]

This isn't really a good reason when you consider you can buy "infinite" link cables that use external power to keep the Quest 3 charged during play in PCVR. All they do is hook up to an external charger like the one your phone might use for fast charging to provide more power to the headset than the PC's USB port would've been able to. If you ever decide to go wireless, a good external power bank would get you 8 hours or more of wireless play for the Quest 3. You should make a decision based off the specs and hardware of each device, and what you value more rather than this, which as I showed can be easily solved.

[@menmabmx1995]

wish the psvr2 controller used double a batteries

[@Astro-VR-Gaming]

Super Informative and Helpful! Great use of editing to emphasize visual effects

[@DiscoVRTetiana]

Thanks so much! I'm glad you enjoyed the information. And editing :)

[@joeythornton2139]

While I agree with most of your assessment and own both a Quest 3 and PSVR2, you didn’t mention these comfort mods for PSVRS. I find both just as comfortable as my BOBOVR mod for Quest 3. Global Cluster CMP2 Comfortable Mod for PSVR 2 Global Cluster PH2 Stereo VR Headphones for PSVR2

[@DiscoVRTetiana]

I did mention a top strap mod. It’s in the video. As for headphones - it’s not a mod, it’s just better headphones. Doesn’t change the fact PSVR2 has no speakers 🤷‍♀️

[@gervasiosgerva]

​@DiscoVRTetiana you have made a unfair comparison on that aspect. You can't compare the best 3rd party quest 3 mod with a a very basic add on psvr2. The fair comparison for bobovr is globular cluster.

[@jlepage36]

@@DiscoVRTetiana Umm, you said the PSVR2 has no mods comparable to bobo VR. Be honest...

[@MultiCarter007]

I started to play VR with Quest 2 couple years ago (still have it), now using Quest 3 for 3 months already. Using both pcvr and standalone mods. For me frenels are pain, I getting distortion all the time and really small sweet spot which always goes away during gameplay. Pancacke for me is a deal breaker even though they are less bright.

[@metalceesie219]

nice review! i am comparing this week my quest 3 vs the psvr2 with pc adapter,its a hard compare and game independent.. Lets say starwars squadron is way more immersive on the psvr2 and offcourse dark(nightflights) or horror games..But then you miss the clarity from the quest3.. But then again the rumble on the controllers is much stronger on the psvr2 what i like..But i found the psvr2 more lifelike in some games and more immersive.. But for now i keep them both.. Also i did halflife alex on both headsets somehow i found the quest 3 more clinical and the psvr2 more lifelike somehow.. But then again yes the mura and small sweetspot on the psvr2.. the starwars game...Its mindblowing with the right settings ingame on the psvr2... We need an oled with pancake lenses and a the field off view off the old valve index

[@dtz1000]

OLED always looks more realistic than LCD.

[@eugenecia9424]

I have a pico4 compression, for the image quality it is not that bad. But with sims I notice a lot of difference, they forget that it is not just about the image. Steering, brakes just respond faster, with dp I found my bass shakers did not work so well on pico4, now on psvr2, work much better signal, just works 1 on 1.

[@MacPanama]

Also it's worth noting that you need to buy a good router to use exclusively for wireless gaming on the Quest 3 to have an optimal setup. In both scenarios you have to add some $$ on top of the headset. Also had to drop some money on a face gasket and head strap for Q3 to make it bearable. Makes me think twice about not waiting for psvr2 in the first place and not deal with image compression

[@raulelias2013]

I'm playing Alien Isolation VR mod at the moment. Probably a game that would look better on PSVR. The Quest 3 struggles with some dark scenes. But after I configured my 5ghz to use 120mhz, a good ratio of mbps and latency, using VR without a cable is a path of no return for me.

[@aobrien_]

Alien Isolation looks amazing on PSVR2, playing it at the moment in the headset.

[@Justin-dp7pg]

You are a brave person. Tried it for 10 minutes and it was just too much. I have no desire to be realistically stalked by a Xenomorph 😂

[@MrTopHater]

bro read my coment and thought "ohh a video idea" Lol thanks for making this i apreceate it keep up the food work :)

[@billbaggins1688]

As a predominately flight and race simmer the question for me is between PSVR2 and the Pimax Crystal Light. I think I will go with the PCL as it has room for my PC to grow (my 3080 will not be able to handle its full resolution), and so will last longer for me. Enjoyed this comparison though. I have a Quest 2, and I just want a new headset without any video compression.

[@DiscoVRTetiana]

PSVR2 vs PCL comparison video is coming up next ;)

[@techinfusions]

I think like you do Tetiana, that the Displayport technology of the PSVR2 really negates the advantage of the pancake lenses of the Quest 3, that compression on both wireless and USB degrades the image too much and also requires lots of GPU processing power to minimise the compression artifacts, with a PSVR2 you can plug it into a 2080ti and still get a perfect artifact free experience. The really impressive OLED displays with the uncorrupted displayport experience really pushes the PSVR2 to the front for that more realistic looking artifact free VR experience, god only knows what HDR will bring when it is unlocked for the PSVR2? The Quest 3 is better for people who are more interested in trying stand alone Meta games or mixed reality experiences and are willing to sacrifice color vibrancy, black levels and brightness in favour of a multi function VR device, I for one would never wear a head mounted 4k wifi streaming device for hours at a time either, I would plug it in just to be on the safe side because it seems like only yesterday when they were telling us not to hold mobile phones next to our heads, it just does not sound even remotely safe for long term exposure to me?

[@Cimlite]

There's a huge difference between cellular connections and WiFi though. Both in transmission power and frequency. According to the Wikipedia page on wireless radiation: "if a person spends one year in a location with a WiFi hot spot, they will receive the same dose of radio waves as if they had made a 20-minute call on a mobile phone". Granted some of that is due to the distance to the WiFi hotspot, which doesn't quite apply to a VR headset, but also don't forget that it's receiving the majority of the data. Not transmitting it. That's not saying either is "good", but holding a cellphone next to your head, transmitting at a power where it can reach a cell tower a good long distance away is something entirely different than WiFi. Even if it's a VR headset.

[@techinfusions]

@@Cimlite I am not talking about background wifi transmissions, and apparently cell phones are safe if held away from the head like supposedly the background cell phone transmission signals are also safe,? I am referring to a strong WIFI transmitter/receiver mounted directly next to the wearers skull for multiple hours at a time, to me it just does not sound healthy? But if you have enough knowledge on the subject to feel safe indulging in the activity then that is up to the individual, for me its just a matter of plugging the cable into the PC and playing tethered.

[@Skylancer727]

From all the comparison footage I've seen of both, even with the compression the Quest 3 looks way clearer than the PSVR2. The PSVR2 has an anti-SDE filter on the display that makes the image a lot more hazy and the odd sub pixel layout both adds mura and color fringing on text. Motion wise the Q3 is also still better as shown by blur busters (even if you'd expect OLED to be better). Really the only reasons to get the PSVR2 are for the higher brightness and better blacks. If what you value in your image is the colors and the contrast, the PSVR2 will be better, but that's basically where it ends. HDR also won't help the PSVR2 as it was shown to make the motion look even worse due to the brightness increase being achieved by reducing the blanking interval of the display. Yes it makes the image brighter, but at the cost of clarity in motion. Many on PS5 even reported this with turning the displays brightness down fixing the problem. I personally also wouldn't recommend the PSVR2 to others due to compatibility issues. I've had a WMR headset so I know the pain of launching a game with it saying to press a button you don't have. Yes you can use external programs to get around it, but that's added complexity which makes people even less likely to use their headset. The need to also buy a special bluetooth adapter and the shotty reliability they've had only makes it worse. It's a damn cool headset for a tinkerer, but I feel that's where it ends.

[@techinfusions]

Have you actually used a PSVR2 on a PC? you sound like you are just reading out a list of complaints and technical jargon about sde filters and rgb pentile's that you read about somewhere online without having experienced the PSVR2 connected to a PC with your own eyes? You mention the only reason to get a PSVR2 over a Quest 3 for PCVR gaming is the Brightness, Color fidelity, Contrast and the pure Black levels, but that is exactly what makes it such a great PCVR headset, the image quality is the big attraction here. I too came from WMR via a Reverb G1 and then a G2, and I can tell you now that the PSVR2 has somthing that LCD displays just do not provide, and that is the presence factor where the image gives you a realism that LCDs do not have, and those pure black levels, vibrant colors and high brightness even without HDR just really add so much to the atmosphere of a VR game. The perfectly clean video signal through the displayport also adds to the experience as well. The first thing you notice going from a Quest 3 to a PSVR2 is that the Quest 3 displays look dim and the colors look washed out in comparison with poor Black levels to go with it. What are the compatibility problems you are talking about, most of the bluetooth adapter issues are lack of updated drivers, most modern motherboards with integrated Bluetooth work perfectly with the PC adapter, this is PCVR not the console world, the Reverb G2 had its own technical issues as I recall from personal experience. Also the PSVR2 behaves just like any other PCVR headset there are already SteamVR profiles for the VR2 controllers available in many PCVR games and the Index controller bindings are working perfectly for other games.

[@Skylancer727]

@techinfusions no I don't have both, but I have seen direct camera footage of both showing that the complaints seem to be true. Didn't honestly see as many pointing out the color fringing as I noticed. I did check one my other OLED headsets and I did notice it's a problem there so the footage is likely correct. And personally the Quest 3 looks a lot more life like than my older OLED headset, though it is higher res. I don't think OLED is the be all end all that people speak of it as. Contrast matters but to me clarity matters far more for VR and just seeing those quality tests the PSVR2 does seem far behind the Quest 3. And the compression arguments are just a total waste of time. People make the same pointless argument about AI upscaling and DSC on flat gaming. Even the professional calibraters recommend both as nearly unrecognizable. The main flaw of compression is more the latency which is about 1-2 frames. About the same as having V sync enabled. If V sync never bothered you this likely won't either. And you can make LCD screens to the same caliber as OLED, just none of the headsets on the market use anything that spectacular. Kinda sucks the Quest Pro is the only one with FALD. Just look how many of the top TVs have LCDs and most of them have higher color volume than the OLED models. The current highest is an OLED display, but it's QD-OLED and the blacks aren't perfect on them. Again, just goes to show that the hype around the tech may be preceeding it.

[@Gusmed007]

9:48 Which game is this?

[@DiscoVRTetiana]

That's Air Car

[@muppetonmeds]

Yes, I was wondering also it looks pretty good.

[@crashn-barrier6606]

The psvr2 comes with easy to use wired headphones.

[@frasermackie19]

Love my psvr2, but the missing features is a big miss using it on the pc. I’ve never tried the meta quest, but the flexibility and wireless nature of the headset does sound a step up. I’m scared of standing on my psvr cable haha. Interesting video

[@asyab.370]

Someone on KZbin found out that haptics for the Psvr2 may still be there in certain PCVR games. The lenses in Psvr2 are 4K oled. The resolution is also better too.

[@techinfusions]

PCVR developers do not utilise any of the PSVR2 missing features, DFR is used on the PS5 to supercharge the processing of the VR Graphics, PCs generally use brute force not DFR to do the same thing, the Quest Pro had eye tracked DFR technology but nobody bothered to write any game updates to use it other than MSFS> The same with HDR and the adaptive triggers PCVR games do not have these features either, they are all unique to PSVR2 games. Saying that though I read that Steam will be adding HDR10 SDK to SteamVR and that could mean HDR will actually be available to developers, so the other features are bound to follow if the demand is there.

[@asyab.370]

@@frasermackie19 I forgot to mention you can play oculus/meta games on psvr2 using revive. You’ll have to lookup videos on how to set it up though as I haven’t tried this yet.

[@asyab.370]

@@techinfusions I know those features are native psvr2. I only mentioned one of them which was haptics because some KZbinr was playing a pcvr game on psvr2 and said that “he can feel the haptics/ rumble the sense controllers or something on the lines of that and he thought that haptics wasn’t supposed to work and then said maybe it might work for some games.” I wasn’t sure if he was just feeling regular rumble or something but the key word in what i said above and what he said the video was “maybe” which indicates that that wasn’t 100% a certainty. I stumbled upon the video by mistake as I never watched his videos before, and trying to find it again.

[@frasermackie19]

@@asyab.370 just watched a video on it. Hopefully get that all set up soon

[@fj06carnone]

Just stopped in to say great thumbnail lol

[@DiscoVRTetiana]

Thank you! It was MK inspired 😆

[@shapeshifter-theamorphousg3264]

Oh shit, here we go again...

[@boitmecklyn4995]

anyone tried this adapter with the iVRy PSVR2 drivers? apparently the drivers support the adaptive triggers.

[@therazor9927]

I have a psvr 2 and highly regret my purchase. If I could go back in time I would have got the meta quest 3

[@CorporateZombi]

7:36 I agree that you can't take off the halo on psvr2 but there are a lot of possible modifications to the comfort. I have 2 straps counterweights and my own sponge mod on my psvr2 to improve the comfort. I wouldn't really put quest 3 ahead in this one, because buying a third party head strap to make quest 3 comfortable is a gamble and potentially an expensive one. (Looking at you bobo S3!)

[@MotoCampAdv]

I have both and it comes down to the lenses for me the pancakes are superior by far. MQ3 wins overall but my dedicated pcvr will be the PSVR2

[@robbieburns3564]

I just bought a PSVR2 and - I'm sending it back. The black levels are amazing, but the fresnel lenses completely ruin any visuals the blacks help out. The visual distortion across the lenses are monstrously detrimental to enjoying the image in the headset. The lenses are actually worse than the Quest2. Probably because the PSVR2 is wobbly on the head, so your super-tiny sweet spot is never lined up right. Its shocking how bad it is. FWIW, I originallt bought it for my PS5 - but the controllers don't function in games - which is a recognized fault with this headset. Garbage.. wish it wasn't - but it really is.

[@mikem2949]

Your reviews are very well done and objective, plus we get these VR updates from a Supermodel, basically. This is awesome!

[@DiscoVRTetiana]

Omg what 🫣

[@mikem2949]

​@DiscoVRTetiana It's just true, supermodels would envy you if they saw these videos lol.... Can't wait for a review of the Quest 3s if you do one. I really think it'll encourage developers to design games that have more fidelity and attention to detail. P.S. I play the piano and ended up getting PianoVision after your review and a few others. It makes MR worth it, for me anyway.

[@GoldSrc_]

You can't easily take your PSVR2 headset to a friends' house though. I feel like people make a big deal about compression on the Quest, when it's not really even worth mentioning as a negative. I come from an age where you had to watch videos at 240p/360p/480p, with several orders of magnitude worse compression; people can deal with the little compression on the Quest. I would still like to get a PSVR2 though.

[@Nago15]

Great comparison, just two things. Don't use Air Link, use Virtual Desktop, it has better resolution, better colors, better compression, more features and much much more user friendly. With Virtual Desktop on Godlike resolution, with 200mbps hevc 10 bit or AV1, even the compressed image should look sharper and cleaner than the PSVR2 image. Second, the best comfort mod for PSVR2 is the Globular Cluster, but even with that it's still not as comfortable as a Quest3 with a good strap and face cover.

[@menmabmx1995]

use link cable

[@bigmclargehuge8219]

I might have to try my quest 3 on PC!

[@spidermonkeynr1]

I can't do without

[@bigmakbm1]

Which has the worse Mura? I have noticed it very much on my Quest 3 but never on my Reverb G2.

[@DiscoVRTetiana]

Mura on Quest? I practically see none, but a lot on PSVR2. Mura is much more common and noticeable on OLED (PSVR2) rather than LCD (quest 3, Reverb g2). Are you sure it’s Mura you’re seeing?

[@MetalDeathHead]

@@DiscoVRTetiana You wrote that completely wrong, psvr2 is oled, reverb g2 and quest 3 are lcds.

[@DiscoVRTetiana]

@@MetalDeathHead you're right, my mistake! It was late lol. Fixed my comment

[@mountaindrew5219]

Yeah, Quest 3 has a lot of mura in any bright solid colored scenarios. PSVR2 has slightly more mura in darker but not full black scenarios. I ignore it and prefer the PSVR2 because it has way better colors, black levels, fov, binocular overlap, and no compression or latency.

[@jlepage36]

I haven't noticed Mura on Quest 3. It is really bad on PSVR2. Reverb G2 had a cleaner display than either of them, but only in the sweet spot. I hated WMR so much,. Apparently Microsoft hates it also, since they are discontinuing it and making G2 a paperweight :(

[@TheIndulgers]

Pancake lenses alone give the win to the Quest 3. Not to mention all the other advantages as well.

[@DiscoVRTetiana]

Yeah they’re pretty amazing

[@dtz1000]

But OLED always gives a more realistic and immersive experience.

[@Jdb63]

That's like saying "OLED alone gives the win to the PSVR2." Pure subjective opinion. I prefer PSVR2 for most use cases

[@lowrider2756]

The Pancake lenses are one of the reasons, why the Q3 is less bright than the PSVR2

[@dominykas29]

The only reason id get the psvr2 is because of the battery life honestly its way longer than quest 3 that dies aftee barely 2 hrs and then u have to charge for extra 3 hours

[@Slyfox1775]

All you have to do is buy is Globular Cluster CMP2 Comfortable Mod for PS VR 2 And u will never have to find the sweet spots !

[@yz3459]

Only a little players play PCVR.Because It’s too expensive.Too many complex settings before playing.So quest3 is the best choice.It can play VR games without the help of computer.It can also play PCVR games.

[@michaellee5363]

I get my quest 3 in a few days , can we please play in a game together?

[@wolverine1981pl]

like psvr2. biggest downside are controllers as they need to be charged pretty quickly. and that rubber on psvr2 with lack of ventilation causing sweating.

[@DiscoVRTetiana]

Good point, not a fan of rechargeable controllers either, although if you use a magnetic charger and place it to charge overnight, then it's generally okay

[@MarkArnoldMusic]

Doesn’t the psvr2 have a fan in the headset specifically for this? You can even see the 2 ventilation ports along the top of the front of the psvr2 visor.

[@jlepage36]

And you still can't buy a spare set of controllers? WTF?

[@ThatReplicant]

Oled display isn't enough to trump quest 3 when mera, its wired connection, awkward controllers, and small sweet spot of clarity hold it back, compared to everything that makes quest 3 amazing. As someone who has both, this isn't a hard choice, but if you already have PSVR2, and you're used to it, then the display port will be enough. 🤷

[@menmabmx1995]

i f only the psv2 wasnt blurry adjusting all the time. it would be better

[@weirdgiven]

I bought a PSVR2 PC adapter, but I don't use it anymore. First of all, the sweet spot and eye box of the lens are very bad. When I used the PSVR2 and then used the Q3, it felt like I bought new glasses. The true black and high brightness of the OLED panel of the PSVR2 are impressive, but the overall resolution and clarity of the Q3 are better. (Also, the PSVR2 has a grainy SDE feeling throughout the screen.) Crucially, many games do not support the PSVR2 controller. For example, when I tried running the Walking Dead S&S Chapter 1, it asked me to press a specific button on the HTC VIVE controller. That button does not exist on the PSVR2 controller, and as a result, I could not proceed further from the main menu.

[@weirdgiven]

And the Bluetooth connection is also unstable. I bought a new Bluetooth adapter from TP-Link that Sony mentioned and connected it to the USB port on the front of my PC, and I could see the left controller appearing and disappearing throughout the game. Sony should have released the PC adapter with the controller connection function as a default.

[@garytebbenham6843]

@@weirdgivendo you have a WiFi antenna that came with the PC? It’s used for Bluetooth as well. I bought that same TP link and even used a usb extension cable and had the left controller getting stuck in space every now and again. Swapped to the internal Bluetooth with the antenna connected and have had no problems since.

[@mountaindrew5219]

@@garytebbenham6843same here, not a single issue since day one using my mobo Bluetooth with external antenna placed on my deck.

[@DissTrackTed]

This decision is very simple. If you own a PS5, Or PS5 & PC, get a PSVR2. If you only own a PC, or nothing at all, get a Quest.

[@schplengie1]

Whay if I have a Quest 3 and a PS5 and dont have time to play either?

[@rodriguezkev]

@@schplengie1 Then you're stuffed 😂

[@MetalDeathHead]

it is very simple, in any case get the psvr2 as its much more immersive

[@skscotch]

I’ve had psvr2 since release and I’ve been using VR since CV1 but I’ve finally decided to sell the psvr2 because I can’t cope with the strap. It’s really terrible and moves around too much meaning you can’t enjoy games. For this reason only I’ve decided to sell psvr2 and just play on Quest 3 instead. I really hope Sony drop the halo design going forward and go with meta’s face hugging design.

[@mountaindrew5219]

Just as you need to buy a 3rd party headstrap for the Q3, the same goes for the PSVR2. Globular Cluster headstrap keeps the headset perfectly in place with the sweet spot and relieves all discomfort. I was iffy with mine for a couple months after launch, but after getting the GC mod it’s the only HMD I use.

[@DexOnQuest]

Quest always why ? #Wireless

[@dtz1000]

She is a Meta Ambassador. That's why.

[@spidermonkeynr1]

No because in this case it has more capabilities and more stable​@dtz1000

[@garytebbenham6843]

Sim racing it’s the Q3 with link cable as the PSVR2 blurs everything at high speed and distant objects are not as clear as Q3. PSVR2 for HL Alex as like many are saying it’s more life like with colours and contrast.

[@mountaindrew5219]

Compression and latency makes sims unplayable for me on any Quest. PSVR2 is better for sims.

[@C-o-r-y]

Psvr2 is way better.

[@menmabmx1995]

how?

[@therazor9927]

I have a psvr 2 and I highly regret my purchase

[@menmabmx1995]

lots of psvr2 fanboys lol

[@dingdongchingchong8659]

It's not fan, it's fact. The DP wire is a huge gamechanger. if quest 3 had DP, then I will say Quest 3 wins.

[@MindWarp-xg5ej]

wired + no connection for VR tredmils..... its not vr :3

[@Goryglory0209]

Read a review. Make a video . Rinse and repeat.

[@spidermonkeynr1]

Trust me that she tested this stuff before making her own honest opinion

[@Bstky73]

Pancake lenses are the best

[@mountaindrew5219]

Too bad the glare and bloom on them is obnoxious.

[@Bugthehollywoodpug]

Quest 3 hands down thee bets tech out now, the avp is a joke

[@jlepage36]

You have both? The AVP has controllers for sale now that make it a Steam VR headset also, but it's real focus is on media consumption. AVP and PCVR was not even an afterthought, it's a 3rd party upgrade.

[@Bugthehollywoodpug]

​@jlepage36 lol No, lol I'd never ever buy an apple product hahahah

[@Skylancer727]

The claim OLED is capable of better colors than LCDs is total misinformation. OLED is capable of true black, but colors aren't inherently better than LCDs. Quantum dot LCDs actually tend to have a higher color volume than generic OLED. There is quantum dot OLED as well showing how OLED benefits from the same color boost as LCDs. The reason for this rumor is that there really aren't garbage tier OLED panels like there are LCDs. Tech like TN LCDs have absolutely terrible colors and viewing angles, but these are becoming increasingly less common.

[@MetalDeathHead]

if thats the case why does oled ALWAYS have better colors than LCD?

[@AEFox]

About the BLACKS, not always it's good to use TOTAL BLACK for our eyes, VR ir is one of those cases, the OLED displays are very bad (at least the cheap ones as on the PSVR2) to get a good amount of BLACK LEVELS (Spectrum/Gamma/Gradients), So yes, amazing that you see "real" black, but you can't see good "not totally black/very dark greys" on Oled, because it jumps from a total black to a medium grey on the gradients, so there is LESS "blacks/dark greys" gradients information on the very low light/darkness scenes/images compared with a LCD, so ... I prefer to see good gradients of dark greys than a one TOTAL black and SOME high greys gradients on dark scenes. Also, about your eyes health, the Pupil/Iris of our eyes are always adjusting the amount of light depending on the scenes to see in dark or bright places, if there is a bright light near to a dark place, we can't see good detail in the dark place because the pupil/iris adjust for the high light, if there is no bright light, the iris open and we see better details on the dark surfaces/scenes, OLED never show us the darkness with more detail, even without bright lights on the scene, that create a lot of STRAIN on our eyes fighting trying to get black info by wide opening the iris to let enter more light on darkness, then the scene changed and then get in flashed with a bright light again, that opening and closing iris on our eyes create a lot of strain/stress, on LCD because there is dark gradients information, the eyes are more relaxed because you see detail/gradients image info in dark scenes because are not TOTALLY blackness. You can call that like OLED black bias ZERO ... LCD black bias more than ZERO, that's good for our eyes. In less words, to have a display that it is Hight Dynamic Range (HDR), that means the difference between max light and total black it's very high (High Contrast), it's not good at all for our eyes, much less in front of our eyes covering the whole FOV, because that contrast/amount of light it's not being real time adjusted as our eyes do in real life

[@Skylancer727]

The main thing that ruins the blacks is just the lenses. Aspheric lenses do have some internal reflections that do kill the perfect blacks.

[@AEFox]

@@Skylancer727 Sorry but in the case of Quest 3 or any headset that use LCD and not OLED. the totally black thing has nothing to do nor it's related to the lenses, Internal reflections create just a little glow around high contrast elements on the image, but the blacks that are not black, comes from the LCD that use backlight for the whole display, just like an LCD monitor, the LCD can't be absolutely closed in between pixels nor totally polarized to not let light pass thru, so always there is some light leak that it is the dark grey in a totally black image, because of that constant backlight illumination

[@Skylancer727]

@AEFox yeah well there's only one headset I know of with FALD and that's the Quest Pro.

[@AEFox]

@@Skylancer727 Yes, I have it also, that use QLEDs Display not LCD, a lot better backlight and can also activate local dimming, that improve blacks a little more.