Questioning the Matter Model

Questions the fundamental presumptions of our world culture that human beings are evolving and their consciousness is derived from the brain.
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[@johnsiegfried]

i'm 76. First time I've ever heard these obvious truths explained so clearly.

[@philippugsley1045]

I was the same John, as soon as I heard these and similar teachings it all seemed so obvious, and I wondered why this truth is not more universally known in the west particularly.

[@MattyLiam333]

Never too late, welcome to the evolution revolution.

[@MattyLiam333]

@@LouisCNNews Bingo. It's not any secret at all that the church has buried this for centuries if not longer. They do their best but in the end, the world will wake up. It may be too late for us as a species, but hey, that's fine. No worries Mate!

[@brisboisgroup64]

This is my 2nd Rupert video. I still don’t quite get it. It feels like I’m mid-way through a 200 level class after finishing a 100 level class. The comments often help to really seat the info. Here’s to it!

[@MattyLiam333]

@@brisboisgroup64 stick with it. I'll give you a hint the world and universe is all a hologram. Now have fun.

[@kenroy916]

It's amazing that in all his content, he is basically saying the same thing. But I am endlessly entertained! Lol

[@IT-fj1nx]

kenroy916 great, now you have a conceptual grasp that your mind doesnt know truth. Start going towards self inquiry and discovering truth in your experience. You could become free of the prison of self. You will experience unconditional love for the present moment.

[@kenroy916]

I T how funny that you say that! I've been exploring self inquiry for some time now. ☺️

[@IT-fj1nx]

Beautiful!

[@IT-fj1nx]

Really once we knows whats up these videos and teachings can be a hinderance if we obsess.

[@zain4019]

I wish you must peace and happiness as you bring these intellectual understandings into your true experience of all that is. It's such a wonderful path, one of grace, a dance we dance with the Beloved:) Be Blessed.

[@miles6875]

This is so beautiful... Rupert - your compassionate facilitation and guidance through the exploration of reality has changed my experience in every way. Your work in this field will be heralded by millions and hopefully billions one day.

[@TheKstuart]

I'm very happy for you, Miles... but Rupert's wisdom is beyond the comprehension of most people.

[@miles6875]

Thanks for saying that. It's true - but hopefully that'll change one day.

[@terefefeyssa877]

Miles: I still did not understand it. Please help. 🙏

[@headycoe]

Very few people actually "get it" that each being is alone (all one) in their Uni-Verse - very refreshing 💚

[@MattyLiam333]

Another blockbuster. This beats watching movies almost every night. Sometimes it is nice to take a break and watch "Don't Look Up" on Netflix. Lol 😂

[@brisboisgroup64]

💯

[@Dyslexic-Artist-Theory-on-Time]

Question everything!!! Thanks for sharing!!!

[@hgracern]

Oh my. 'The knowing is not in time n space.'

[@innerlight617]

May be of some help for understanding... ""What quantum mechanics tells us, I believe, is surprising to say the least. It tells us that the basic components of objects - the particles, electrons, quarks etc. - cannot be thought of as "self-existent". The reality that they, and hence all objects, are components of is merely "empirical reality"." "This reality is something that, while not a purely mind-made construct as radical idealism would have it, can be but the picture our mind forces us to form of ... OF WHAT ? The only answer I am able to provide is that underlying this empirical reality is a mysterious, non-conceptualisable "ultimate reality", not embedded in space and (presumably) not in time either." Bernard d'Espagnat (22 August 1921 - 1 August 2015) was a French theoretical physicist, philosopher of science, and author, best known for his work on the nature of reality.

[@williamjeffreys2980]

Any awareness that is sufficiently intense can manifest from the energy field. If you can shut your roof-brain-chatter up sufficiently, you should be able to perceive the attention/alertness of what is around you.

[@sierrawiedman3147]

I stumbled across your KZbin channel and I am absolutely blown away I have never heard anyone who knows what I am truly means people look at me like I am losing it when I say this I have no other words for it but I am 💚

[@erdemozmetu]

I love you Rupert. You are my rock star!

[@venugopal4359]

Awareness Star

[@honestinsky]

Excellent video Rupert, thank you my brother, much appreciated : )

[@paztururututu4864]

How beautiful is reality... 😍 Isn't it? 😊 ❤

[@124481ful]

Wow ! Mind blowing!

[@onepathmypath2935]

However powerful this video might be, the benefit will only be measured by what you keep in your heart. THX Rupert

[@pradeepnim3689]

excellent explanations, what he is talking about is very true.

[@basketofpuppys]

its weird too when you dream you can see things without your eyes

[@stevenwilliams2366]

With out a doubt, the Einstein of spirituality....

[@puderjunge]

So True!

[@unclebirdman]

The brain is implicated as the immediate source of consciousness in many ways including (but not limited to) effects of drugs (e.g. general anaesthetic, psychedelics), its connection to the sensory system, the effects of brain damage and strokes, the effects of loss of neuronal functioning in dementia (e.g. Alzheimer's disease), the effects of decrease in blood oxygen ("hypoxia"), the effects of hypothermia, the effects of directly applied electricity & electromagnetic fields and EEG patterns correspondence to subjective states.

[@SevakKirakosyan]

Beautiful, true, simple, and thus powerful and effective.

[@JamesGriffinC]

I love Rupert’s teachings - he has mastered something. However, Rupert starts the video with the ‘hard problem of consciousness’ and claims this problem doesn’t really exist. But from what I can tell, the hard problem can still be formulated in the language of Rupert’s world. And formulated in this way it is still a hard problem and there are no answers yet.

[@calvinrakotobe5583]

How can there be a hard problem of consciousness if matter does not exist? Matter is only what the activity of consciousness look like from the pov of a limited human mind. There is only awareness and we are that. Every seeming thing is that. No problems here. No minds here. End of thoughts (or rather end of the neurosis) here. Peace here. Happiness here. Love here. One "thing" here. No others here. No dangers here. Solace has been found in the ultimate refuge. Know that. Be that. Love that

[@apsau153]

Being aware that you have a human consciousness is only possible if you're alive as a human. And you can be alive as a human only if you have a body that can process the energy required for you to be able to act, think, and experience. If you're dead, how are you sure that you still have the same consciousness that you had while you were alive? I think physicist Lawrence Krauss' response to the question "What happens to you when you die, is there life after death?" rings true. He responds: "Tell me what it was like before you were born". All evidence points to the simple fact that consciousness ceases at death, and it ceases because it can no longer be supported through your material body.

[@matthewking7874]

awesome message rupert

[@MrBrady95]

Thanks for the point of view, especially the Mary & Jane concept (dream within a dreamer). A Course in Miracles says, "We are all thoughts in the mind of God." I love that book and those teachings. Your explanation helped "materialize" this quote for me today :)

[@gireeshneroth7127]

Problem is consciousness is all there is. And consciousness to only itself is what it is not.

[@cat_lover007]

The dream analogy is spot on.

[@Kirkeuglen]

Are we even talking about the same thing? I mean I think the belief that 'consciousness' is a brain-function (and thus an emergent property of matter interacting with itself in a complex way) may come from the fact that if I drug you up with an anesthetic you'll become unconscious within seconds. And we know that anesthetic drugs work by binding to specific inhibiting receptors in the brain. So thus we conclude that wakefulnesss/consciousness is derived from a certain kind of brain activity. The person/mind/'sensation of being a separate self' seems to be an emergenty property of brain activity and thus of matter-interactions. Or in other words, the sensation of BEING a self/a person seems to be derived from the brain and thus from matter. However, we must ask, what is it that experiences that sensation of being a person? That to me is God/Consciousness/Awareness/nothingness/that which can't be named. The brain is merely a vessel for Consciousnesss to experience itself. And Consciousness is everything. And yet it's nothing. It's grounded in absolute nothing. It's eternal and infinite and formless. And matter doesn't even exist in the first place. (Nothing exists, literally). It's an appearence. It's a dream. It's a game. It's content. Content within Consciousness. Experienced by Consciousness. Created by Consciousness. Created out of excitement with no deeper meaning than just to experience its infinite capacity for complexity.

[@IT-fj1nx]

Christofferr Andersen when a reply is this long you just know your lost.

[@oneofthepeoplehere]

Instead of people saying "I am aware of the state in which communication has ceased between neuro-receptors" they say "I am no longer aware that those receptors are interacting with each other". But they are not interacting with each other. The former is correct. The latter is incorrect. People still chose the latter despite both "scientific" evidence and their own observation.

[@sandycarter5300]

The "brain" can't be a vessel for Consciousness, since the brain is as much "empty space" as the rest of what seems to be material. The atom is empty space, so the brain can't be a vessel or creator of anything. All apparent matter is the "product" of the one belief in objectivity, which establishes countless unreal reference points, and, so, the seeming of time and space. There are only time and space in belief, not in actuality. Any organized matter or a body requires both space and time. It is all a projection arising "now" and it is composed of consciousness and made up by consciousness.

[@Rozay_Roses]

What goes through my mind is that I wake up and all that I know is a dream. It s a little bit scary. I like the videos, thank you.

[@pedrogonzales9202]

There are times a feel absolutely trapped in this... whatever it is. Then I consider that it is an illusion. There is no “me” trapped but universal consciousness having taken on limitation. Well it seems that is wants to free itself, there is an urge to be free, but how? How to crack this illusion. I want to be free- but is that I who wants to be free the illusion? Why would universal consciousness care that it is in illusion? Has anyone seen through this?

[@leightoncooke]

Brilliant Rupert! I must never forget my Raybans are my filter. Great analogy.

[@CYMONKA]

Consciousness precedes and transforms matter

[@gers19]

This is the first chapter of his book The Nature of Consciousness.

[@RogerDrayton]

WoW...The teachings expressed through these videos are beyond juicy & tasty...This literally brings to mind an old definition of FEAR - False Evidence Appearing Real...Thanks for posting...I A(nama rupa)M !!!

[@williamjeffreys2980]

"Matter" / "particles" appear where consciousness/attention interacts with/observes the energy field. Somewhat like a harmonic note springing from a touched, vibrating string.

[@ZENderista]

It's really mind-bending. I got a question though. So what I perceive: people, places, experiences, world... is all an inside job of my individual mind or ego. In reality, there's no other people, no places, no world, no time, no space, nothing. If I drew the conclusion I am real and the others aren't, that would be solipsism. Am I a dream for some other individual mind? Is it just the same mind that is dreaming individual or apparently separate dreams?

[@hgracern]

ZENderista nothing is real but you, awareness/knowing, so only dreamed partial ‘person’ seems to exist. No thought is yours, Zen. Xx

[@GioGhirardi]

I think you also don't exist, because ego doesn't exist. You and the other people are the same awerness that dreams this world, maybe...

[@ommeditationmind1554]

Imagine if you had a dream. In that dream you are always the central character and the story nightmare revolves around you in that dream. In the dream you think it is real.....while the real you are really sleeping....when you wake up you realize that it was a dream an illusion. In our daily lives we cannot go around pretending that its all not real, as in this life you will get a kick in the ass if we do not play our roles. The advantage is not to take some things so seriously and suffer unnecessarily from stress. Realize that the voice in the head that tells you to worry and that you are not good enough or the current moment is not good enough is a total liar! You can walk around with less weight on your shoulders. We live in a virtual reality that is not only 3D but it includes the 5 senses, so it appears real. Other people that you see, behind them is also that same virtual software that is running in you....that makes this virtual experience even more sophisticated and entertaining. Your role may die, but than the virtual reality show still goes on with others.

[@injoyinmyself2018]

Conciousness = C1 C1 identifies and fuses itself with the body/form/organism. The organism cannot percieve reality, it takes info from the 5 senses and creates a model of reality and an image of itself and other organisms for survival and to navigate the environment/ reality. The symbiotic relationship between form and C1 will continue until the form can no longer sustain itself , then C1 fuses with another form. In some cases C1 recognises 1) model is not reality 2) Image is not itself. 3) the form/organism/ body is not itself 4)C1 becomes aware of C1 C1 continues to function through the organism until death but it does not identify as the form/organism/body.

[@kili6675]

How does Rupert know that the Consistency of consciouness that he perceives is not also a result of the Limitation of mind ? How would he know ? Maybe it is not consistent in reality, but our mind portrays it as consistent ? In the same way it portrays an animated film as consistent movement even though in reality it is many many still Pictures and no movement ?

[@elischalk1579]

Wonderfully put

[@thetranquilview5600]

Brilliant Thankyou 😄✨🙏

[@IT-fj1nx]

I believe anybody off the street if they were truly open and honest could see the matter model is delusion in less than 5 minutes. But my god when you challenge someones core beliefs it is deeply related to their emotional core pain. It gets triggered and they become violent (usually in a subtle form)

[@kolarz2128]

I T Yes, thats a good result of brainwash - being emotional about some ideas, and beliefs. :)

[@Beggaronmars]

Shit that goes deep, give me a wow moment jeez.

[@georgemcwilliams4466]

Thank you.

[@williamjeffreys2980]

Great point at the 2:00 minute mark.

[@ImmaculusVonNorton]

The map is not the territory. In fact, there is no reason to believe there is a territory at all.

[@IT-fj1nx]

Joshua Scott Hotchkin other than insane people tell you there is from about 1-2 years old!

[@VeniVizzleVici]

@@IT-fj1nx What?

[@Lyset123]

The obvious refutation of his computer/email and sky/cloud analogies, is that if the matter in your brain in damaged (brain stroke etc) your consciousness is surely influenced by it. However, the sky/computer is still the same without clouds/email.

[@ViaMirage]

In this case he is saying that the brain would get damaged, but not Consciousness. Not the Awareness of that damage.

[@luctrader_yt]

How then, Jane can ever realize that she is actually Mary? Jane is not in a dream, Mary is (consciousness in the analogy), can Jane (we) then "awake" or is Mary who has to do it?

[@violaevavenczel8378]

Yes, it is Mary who needs to realise that she is not Jane, but she is Mary. Like the actress on the stage might forget it who she is and who she is acting to be. The original actress is always and forevver: Mary. Jane is only an artistic/fiction personality that Mary is having fun with in Mary's creative moments. But Mary is not "waking up" to her Mary-ness, Mary is simply just remembering that she is Mary, who she always and forever is. This is how I see and experience this. 💜😊

[@violaevavenczel8378]

As an actress myself, I find that is one of the best metaphors, for me, hope, it helped you too, a bit. It is originaly Rupert's metphor (King Lear/Jim Smith).

[@thumbpickfingers]

Do torsos with heads cut off act consciously? The mind seems to perceive individuals in a way that their consciousness is the result of the brain and thus, that it necessarily appears beyond a certain level of material complexity. However, it's the limited and temporary consciousness of the mind, and not the eternal, infinite awareness of the Whole.

[@hgracern]

I toldyou that last year, Hazel Goodman. Yars.

[@_SoundByte_]

wow

[@basketofpuppys]

so when i die will i dream or just be gone

[@StefanReich]

I really hate how physicists actually seem to think that physics came before mind

[@tyrone6987]

when did he infer that?

[@frederiquebertin119]

our mind doesn't know any thing , it is just a tool we use to translate our perceptions into a brain langage , that's all .

[@IT-fj1nx]

Our minds are just the phenomenon of thoughts appearing in consciousness. To hold the content of it as being true or believing any of it could be true in any way is totally insane. Yet thats 99.999% of us!

[@kili6675]

Rupert's Argument that because consciousness seems to be a constant in our experience, that therefore it must be constant in reality… I'm not a philosopher but I'm not sure if that is a Sound Argument. After all, People with Schizophrenia sometimes have experiences that have astounding Consistency in their perception (say a voice). And a seeming reality that in their minds matches the subjective realityof those perceptions they share with us (say a table). Rupert would be Right that it is astounding that Consciousness seems so solid and consistent, and that that may Point to its source being outside our Brains. But I don't think it's proof or self evident. Yet Rupert seems to believe that. Maybe I missed something.. ?

[@ommeditationmind1554]

Simply Abide in awareness, if not for any other reason than for the fun of it, without opinion or judgment, "this is with "colored glasses" off, and you will arrive at a realization that the mind cannot provide. The mind only knows what it knows and it is also biased due to conditioning, it cannot be trusted. Drop all thoughts, concepts, notions, ideas, STOP thinking and expect nothing, do nothing.....and see what happens. It may take days, weeks, months but you will make the most significant discovery of your life. Test it out, experiment! There is nothing like direct personal experience.

[@tonynes3577]

Interesting but somewhat confusing.

[@neuroscram]

Where is 'the mind' when the embreyo is forming in the womb? It would appear the body comes first, then the mind. First the matter, then the mind.

[@sibaroochi]

Bobby Ahmad the way you said that is hard to understand. I feel like a simpleton

[@identitygone]

Bobby Ahmad you say "...awareness is primarily based in mind" this is not the case. Awareness IS. It doesn't base itself anywhere, for it is not a thing. It can not be contained or seperated from itself. Hence it is everything (material) that exists AND everything that does not. Not sure what you're referring to with the word 'energy', but energy is not awareness.

[@neuroscram]

I see many words with little substance, do you even know what you mean?

[@identitygone]

Bobby Ahmad ...I'm hearing you loud and clear. If I were to continue this disagreement of 'words', I'd reply with.. "correction.... Awareness IS." 'Period'. But whatever... as you say... words are just words. The understanding of the absolute truth is all that counts. Awareness transcends object - subject. It doesn't need to be here to be aware. ☺

[@IT-fj1nx]

Thats quite a silly rationalisation and it doesn't hold up

[@kili6675]

My third and last c mment on the Topic is this. My psychology Professor said that what Rupert and other teachers see as mystical can be explained in Terms of homeostasis. Something taking place in parts of the brain and Body that can be located and traced in their activiy. After sex and after having eaten and after entering the bed to Sleep, this freedom we feel is a homeostatic effect. I think this professor thinks that Meditation is basically shortcutting this cycle, initiating homeostasis again and again and again.. But that would not allow for the Consistency of Consciousness . IT would have Peaks and Valleys if that were true Right ?

[@ommeditationmind1554]

The professional is speaking without having had direct personal experience. He only has the experience and knowledge from wearing "colored glasses" all his life, and thus he has filtered out significant facts. Conclusions are reached without full understanding. The answer cannot be reached with the mind. most people who claim to be meditators have not reached any degree of realization or awakening. Rupert's case is rare. Simply Abide in awareness, if not for any other reason than for the fun of it, without opinion or judgment, "this is with "colored glasses" off, and you will arrive at a realization that the mind cannot provide. The mind only knows what it knows and it is also biased due to conditioning, it cannot be trusted. Drop all thoughts, concepts, notions, ideas, STOP thinking and expect nothing, do nothing.....and see what happens. It may take days, weeks, months but you will make the most significant discovery of your life. Test it out, experiment! There is nothing like direct personal experience.

[@kili6675]

@@ommeditationmind1554 Yes, that is the only explanation possible. But then again there are people like Sam HArris who are brilliant Neuroscientists and also meditators. And they say it|s all the brain.. I|m not convinced by anything anymore.. Sam HArris, however intelligent and brilliant he may be, remains a human being evolved to survive in a specific set of environments. Our Brains scan for survival value, not for truth value. Cf the book The Case against Reality.. Then Again Rupert does not have the understanding of the brain Sam has.. We know much much much more about what thoughts are, how and where they are constructed than Rupert can accept.. Hes right when he says we only know counterparts of thoughts.. also known as correlates... But these are so closely linked to thoughts, and so precisely predictable in their function that it is absurd to say that scientists have no idea what a thought is.. I|m finally absolutely sure that neither side really knows it all... So all thats left for me is to sit down and meditate.

[@kili6675]

I hope btw that youre right saying Rupert|s case is rare. Either he is absolutely full of it and completely deluded, or he really is the next stage of human evolution.

[@ommeditationmind1554]

Observe the pre-assumption we all make in our thinking/thoughts. 1) we only see thru filtered prism of the mind (colored glasses); Most people who have not had the awakening, rely on intellect to rationalize. This is like asking the thief to be the policeman. The mind is the problem, no amount of intellect will result in realization of the "Self." I have a Pysch degree; I have worked with University Profs with Phds….they are brain washed into a particular line of thinking (conclusions of the mind). I had an awakening 8 years ago, and that was after dropping the mind. Once this happens, the colored glasses come off. You will notice Masters like Echart Tolle, and Dalai Lama, they don't use the intellectual approach, nor do they ever call themselves an expert...they simply point to the "doorway," so as not to fuel the mind. 2) I have watched and listened to Sam Harris. I noticed that he makes pre-assumptions that are not correct, when discussing many topics, thus leading his groupies down the wrong path. Harris is a self proclaimed intellectual, I find him to be a performer, but yes he is an expert in marketing himself as an expert in anything and everything (Jack of all trades, master of none). Neuroscience degree, does not make him a physicist like Einstein (a real intellectual). I see no signs that Harris is enlightened, he is strictly about "subscribers" and his business model to monetize via social media. I have caught him in a lie many times, so I have no use for him. 3) Rupert has good intentions and he is brighter than Harris, however the problem with Rupert is that he gets too intellectual on this subject matter, which fuels the mind, and thus unintentionally turns "Awareness" into an object. If you are having an intellectual discussion now, it means Rupert failed to reach you. 3) Ramana Maharishi simply said "Abide in the Self" in silence; he rarely spoke.

[@MrEinJulian]

thx

[@jackp.shaark2739]

What the matter? (pardon the pun)

[@manolojaramillo]

Is mind kind of fractal so?

[@oneofthepeoplehere]

IT'S TIME TO STOP

[@joel-yd1rv]

First!

[@oldnewbieraver]

Joel O'Mara no, second!

[@adriandeutrom9092]

I like listening to Rupert but I still think he fails to tell us how we can use this way of thinking into Christianity. He taks about God but never say much about the Christ

[@karnpooni4281]

:D

[@tonynes3577]

Sorry you lost me...

[@davidsweeney111]

Genesis 1:27New King James Version (NKJV) 27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

[@TheCuratorIsHere]

It’s a recursive neural network, this has been figured out years ago. You guys are so ignorant. Consciousness is an emerging property of a recursive neural network of multiple layers (thousands).