Questions About Tolerance

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Cross Examined

Cross Examined

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Addresses some issues about tolerance, same-sex marriage, and gender ideology.

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@bhpurerange1
@bhpurerange1 5 жыл бұрын
Tolerance is the last virtue of a dying society - Aristotle.
@nicktaylor2065
@nicktaylor2065 5 жыл бұрын
Tolerance and apathy are the virtues of a dying society.
@TheJRE313
@TheJRE313 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@Kadbros
@Kadbros 4 жыл бұрын
Blessed are the peacemakers, not the peacekeepers.
@Spookyjordan
@Spookyjordan 4 жыл бұрын
That’s not a real Aristotle quote. It may have some validity as an idea but it didn’t come from aristotle
@leibniz4455
@leibniz4455 4 жыл бұрын
@@Spookyjordan I can agree with you there because there was no one there to record what he actually said.. Same goes with Rome, we can see their structures and Pompeii, but what actually were the conversations there that made up Roman stories?
@SaxonC
@SaxonC 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, I have gay attractions but I’m doing my best to repent and turn from that lifestyle and people who promote it. I accepted Christ as my Savior and I want to be with Him in eternity. Even when I was in the lifestyle, I opposed same sex marriage and civil unions. Deep down it just never seemed right and I pray that The Holy Spirit keeps convicting me of my sins and I pray that when I accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Personal Savior, that He sealed me and entered my name in the Lamb’s Book of Life. It’s a struggle and I pray everyday for greater understanding and greater love and faith in God through Christ Jesus. Please pray for me. Please! 🙏✝️
@dasani367
@dasani367 4 жыл бұрын
I promise you, from my own experience ..Jesus Christ will take it all away from you and things will be so much better. I went from straight to Bi to Lesbian and back to straight.. and lost my marriage bc of it...but God took all my homosexuality away.. Great job resisting the sin and Im proud of you ^^ God Bless you! **hugs
@BestCrazyShow
@BestCrazyShow 4 жыл бұрын
God bless you
@ifynne1
@ifynne1 4 жыл бұрын
I know this is Long but I really felt the Holyspirit lead me to your comment. Pls Bear with me and read everything 😃😃😃 its important you begin to read Gods word everyday. With the new Life of Christ and continously reading Gods word he takes these struggles away by giving you his nature and it's a nature that is above sin. The bible says Sin shall have no dominion over you. When Jesus died on the cross that was him dying in our place. Jesus himself became Sin for us (lying, stealing, adultery, sexual immorality) this was why God had to punish Jesus because God hates Sin. But praise the lord It didnt end there. Christianity doesnt start with the death of Jesus but it starts with the Resurrection of Jesus Christ What does that mean? Jesus rising up again means He defeated sin, death, illness and sickness. JESUS would not have been able to rise from the grave if he did not have ABSOLUTE POWER over them. The life that rose Jesus from the grave has defeated Sin, it is dead to sin. It cannot sin. Because Jesus paid the price for sin when he died on the cross. But He rose again and told us to accept this NEW LIFE that is above sin and death. Once you accept Jesus into your life..now your nature is not sin nature, it is Gods nature. GOD NATURE, do you know what that means.... that you have God nature? The bible says that as God is in heaven so are we. He have the same power, the same authority with the name of Jesus Christ. Jesus said that the works he did (raising up the dead, making the blind eyes see, making lame to walk) that we can do GREATER WORKS than that. It is important you truly understand what God did for u because until you truly know what Jesus did for you, You will continue to believe that you r supposed to be trying so hard to fight sin. You dont need to fight what has already been defeated. If you believe wrong, you will think wrong and pattern your life that way That's why God calls us to renew our mind with his word.. to begin to think like him You were brought our of darkness into life You are give the power by the Holyspirit to rule and ruin in this life You are more than an overcomer You are not struggling with sin but you are Born of God and therefore sin has no power over you Until you learn who you are in Christ Until you learn the Power you have the bible says that my people perish for lack of knowledge I'd be praying with and for you I encourage you to read Gods word... that is literally Jesus Talking to you I also encourage you to follow a Jesus believing Church or ask ur friends who are true Followers of Jesus not just in words but in actions and ask them to help introduce you to a man or woman of God that you can be accountable to someone that will walk you in your journey of faith. But much greater than any man, the Holyspirit is in you (the moment you accept Jesus as Lord of you life) The bible says he will guide you into all truth The holyspirit will Reveal what God said about you. You are not a victim You are a Victor You reign and Rule in this life You are more than an overcomer This is what God says about you Stop struggling with sin my dear and rest in the comfort of our Lord Jesus Christ If you need support in your journey pls reachout I'd be more than happy to walk with you I cannot help but Love you so much but much more than that God loves you so much more God bless you❤❤
@TMcConnaughhay
@TMcConnaughhay 4 жыл бұрын
I am right there with you! Our stories sound very similar. I repented from the lifestyle 8 months ago and I am never turning from Jesus again. Only Jesus could have saved me from this lifestyle, I could never do it on my own. Now just a determination to love my savior powered by the Holy Spirit keeps me from sinning any longer. It's hard but through Him I'm doing it!! Praise God
@k.hamilton5848
@k.hamilton5848 4 жыл бұрын
God bless you brother. No one is ever perfect but the Lord knows you are trying and that is what he wants from us. Jesus will break the chains of the demons that have latched onto you. Remember, everything is spiritual, you can see more clearly with your eyes closed brother. Temptation, lust, all of these things are evil spirits, not just things we feel or face, you are fighting demons!
@fredthomson2182
@fredthomson2182 5 жыл бұрын
If simplicity is the hallmark of genius, Frank is a simple man.
@billybubone
@billybubone 4 жыл бұрын
Beautifully put.
@TJ-kk5zf
@TJ-kk5zf 3 жыл бұрын
simpleton
@vladimator1842
@vladimator1842 3 жыл бұрын
ABSOLUTELY TRUE
@shawnchristophermalig4339
@shawnchristophermalig4339 3 жыл бұрын
I gotta love this statement
@Wanderer24
@Wanderer24 3 жыл бұрын
Man, alot of people think that in order to win an argument you have to fight them on it, when really you just have to help them realize they didn't have an argument.
@phoenixrise3126
@phoenixrise3126 5 жыл бұрын
I can honestly say divorce has been the most destructive force in my life as a child when my parents divorced, and as an adult in my own.
@fernandocuriel124
@fernandocuriel124 5 жыл бұрын
Phoenix Rise Unfortunately everything started with the sexual revolution and no fault divorce. 😔
@ertfgghhhh
@ertfgghhhh 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. I was put away and abandoned by my spouse. It messed me up. I thought i was justified to seek a divorce 3yrs later scripturewise since he was a unbeliever. A yr later, i regret seeking one even though our children thought we were already divorced especially since they witnessed him saying he didnt want us.
@michaelwill7811
@michaelwill7811 5 жыл бұрын
I had to live (as a child) through several. One of the most evil things that those who are trying to remove God from our lives, has ever "gifted" to the young people of this country.
@jollygoodgordon5580
@jollygoodgordon5580 3 жыл бұрын
Not to be harsh bro, but at least your parents were married. Sadly many people grow up in Single parent home(mostly by single mothers) or a family in which the parents aren’t married.
@jannoeding5
@jannoeding5 5 жыл бұрын
Great Frank, I appreciate your work! God bless you.
@walidmoghrabi9022
@walidmoghrabi9022 4 жыл бұрын
The holy spirit really speaks through this guy! God bless him❤ and he also have a great sense of humour 👍😂
@alvin9768
@alvin9768 2 жыл бұрын
Respectfully, the use of capitol letters make a better point. (H)oly (S)pirit
@MarquisFacade88
@MarquisFacade88 4 жыл бұрын
I remember a bishop saying something like this: “tolerance is not a Christian value. Prudence, justice, fortitude, temperance, faith, hope, charity-these are Christian virtues. Tolerance in the face of evil is itself a kind of evil.”
@anthonyjordan5472
@anthonyjordan5472 4 жыл бұрын
Marquis Facade tolerance is most definitely a Christian value because without it we wouldn’t be able to love those that disagree with us and to be like Jesus we must love everyone regardless of sins because thats how Jesus loves us
@vertigo2894
@vertigo2894 2 жыл бұрын
Same sex marriage isnt evil
@juangabriellopez4475
@juangabriellopez4475 2 жыл бұрын
@@vertigo2894 agree but actually it is sinful but being homosexual itself isn't sinful.
@juangabriellopez4475
@juangabriellopez4475 2 жыл бұрын
@Deyandra Hutama actually tolerance is christian value because if god doesn't loves and tolerate us,he see us as sinners and condemns us all to hell,do you even remember John 3:17 "For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through" and John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” God and Jesus still tolerated and love us no matter you sin many times and want to be forgiven by God,he still forgives you despite being a sinner and still committing sins you are still adopted in god's family ❤,he is not called the loving,forgiving and tolerated God,sure God doesn't likes sin but he still forgives and loves the sinner who commits the sin from the beginning,do you remember Adam and Eve commit sin but God still forgive them by Adam and eve killing animals for clothing.
@juangabriellopez4475
@juangabriellopez4475 2 жыл бұрын
@Deyandra Hutama have even realizes that the "God loves the sinner but hates the sin" and “the devil made me do it” is unbiblical and incorrect,because who makes/commits sin,a sinner of course,the sinner makes sin therefore there is no such thing is that sin makes us sinner,we make sin and makes us sinners and Yes, the devil and his demons tempt us to sin,but the devil cannot make us do anything. The devil is absolutely worthy of blame for much of the evil in the world, but using the devil as a scapegoat for our own sinful choices is counterproductive to achieving victory over sin,If you are a Christian like me and you commit a sin, the devil did not make you do it. He may have tempted you to do it. He may have even influenced you to do it. But he did not make you do it. You still had a choice,we have choice what is wrong and what is right,therefore that god still accepted the businessmen who makes money,which mean he tolerated the sinner who makes sin from the beginning,like satan choose to rebal against God, because he is a sinner who makes sin from the beginning and Adam & Eve chooses to disobey God by there own choice, therefore that Adam and eve is a sinner who commits/makes sin from the beginning by their personal decision & choice and free will.
@TheJwwinter
@TheJwwinter 6 жыл бұрын
One of the most brilliant minds in the world today, that is Frank.
@WilliamsWorldView
@WilliamsWorldView 6 жыл бұрын
TheJwwinter he is a con-artist. He is using debate techniques in which he twists words to fit his purpose. He doesnt answer questions, he refrases questions and then answers his own questions. This always makes him seem right. He uses (an atempt to) humor to defuse a topic or ridicule a topic, to make his vision the logical or sensible one. Its a techniques con-artist use.
@kabbbbage
@kabbbbage 6 жыл бұрын
How did you come to that conclusion ?
@WilliamsWorldView
@WilliamsWorldView 6 жыл бұрын
Education. I had to study debating and arguing techniques for a job I once had. I watched several videos with Frank debating or giving a seminar with a Q&A. With sceptics or atheists he always does the same. Its his 'go to' trick. If he cant give a direct answer which complies with the teachings of the bible, he will rephrase the question and then answer the rephrased question, but he wont answer the actual question. He has the answers to his own questions, not to the actual questions. con-artists and politicians are the same thing. Maybe I should have used politicians as a reference in stead of con-artists...
@theeyeofgod8316
@theeyeofgod8316 6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant or confused and delusional?
@tricktroymcguinness7374
@tricktroymcguinness7374 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The man is truly Anointed with the Holy Spirit. God bless Dr. Frank Turek and keep him & his family safe .
@susanzhu5404
@susanzhu5404 5 жыл бұрын
Great talk! So refreshing to hear. Thank God for you, Dr.
@tricktroymcguinness7374
@tricktroymcguinness7374 5 жыл бұрын
Tolerance when applied to evil is a crime.
@xkr8774
@xkr8774 5 жыл бұрын
Love this
@zeddicuszorrander3599
@zeddicuszorrander3599 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I hate this tolerate my intolerance ideology.
@leibniz4455
@leibniz4455 4 жыл бұрын
@@zeddicuszorrander3599 Same, I don't want everyone to think emotionally, and be tempted easily.
@jamesmagwenzi6058
@jamesmagwenzi6058 4 жыл бұрын
Tolerance comes when you realise that there are things you disagree with. -Frank Turek
@vertigo2894
@vertigo2894 2 жыл бұрын
No, I don't agree here. You can't tolerate the intolerant. Even tolerance has limits. Would you tolerate the Nazi ideology? Of course not, so when people say tolerance they mean within reason.
@mykingofkings1439
@mykingofkings1439 6 жыл бұрын
People nowadays often confuse the definition of tolerance, they seem to think you must agree with someone in order to be tolerant, but this is not tolerance, the definition of tolerance is when we discover we disagree with someone our treatment of them doesn't change we disagree but still accept and respect each other as fellow human being, but we certainly don't have to agree to respect or love each other. It's very easy to respect and tolerate those who agree with us, the real challenge is when we disagree with someone, it's not so easy then!!.... this is where you will find out if a person has true tolerance or not, not if they agree with you.
@vertigo2894
@vertigo2894 2 жыл бұрын
No, I don't agree here. You can't tolerate the intolerant. Even tolerance has limits. Would you tolerate the Nazi ideology? Of course not, so when people say tolerance they mean within reason.
@mykingofkings1439
@mykingofkings1439 2 жыл бұрын
@@vertigo2894 tolerate people.. who are not breaking the law, I thought that would be obvious, we don't tolerant criminals so my point never included being tolerant of them. I was speaking about opinions and points of views etc.. people who don't hurt other people, you know the way the West has existed for many many years until a group of intolerant fascist snowflakes were born. Now even though I feel that way about them...I'm willing to tolerate them just as long as they follow the law but they want to get rid of people like me from the world simply because I disagree with most of what they say.
@vertigo2894
@vertigo2894 2 жыл бұрын
@@mykingofkings1439You can have any view, even nazi views and not break the law. We shouldn't tolerate that either. Would you tolerate your children associating with such people? Of course not. Would you welcome them to any venue you have any control over? Surely not. Would you accommodate them in any way if you didn't have to? Most definitely not. It isn't being a "snowflake" to reject vile and unfairly discriminatory behaviour. It isn't being a snowflake to prefer decorum and decency over calling people names and demonising them. I have news for you, your so called "conservatives" are snowflakes too. Try saying anything approaching criticism in Trump's direction, you will get eaten alive with anger. Lot's of hypocrisy to see here follks.
@mykingofkings1439
@mykingofkings1439 2 жыл бұрын
@@vertigo2894 and furthermore... "you can't tolerate the intolerant" but then you become the same as those people whom you label intolerant!!...So, the person ends up being a hypocrite. If you don't care for a person's behaviour in this case intolerance of others, why then would you become the same way as those you criticise?? If they are wrong for doing it whatever makes you right? You don't join your enemy to beat them... because the moment someone forces you to become like them in order to beat or stop them, you've already lost... You should never become like those whom you believe are doing wrong that doesn't solve anything!!... all that does is increases the problem that you set out to fix in the first place.
@vertigo2894
@vertigo2894 2 жыл бұрын
@@mykingofkings1439 Are you listening to yourself? You are making no sense. Yes you can totally not tolerate harmful beliefs. In fact it is your moral duty to do so. Don't be ridiculous. "Increasing the problem" is my tolerating evil ideology. You are not making a lick of sense
@ateup880
@ateup880 6 жыл бұрын
Amen Frank! People hate the truth when It convicts them.
@WilliamsWorldView
@WilliamsWorldView 6 жыл бұрын
ATE UP he is a con-artist. He is using debate techniques in which he twists words to fit his purpose. He doesnt answer questions, he refrases questions and then answers his own questions. This always makes him seem right. He uses (an atempt to) humor to defuse a topic or ridicule a topic, to make his vision the logical or sensible one. Its a techniques con-artist use.
@aubreywilliam9048
@aubreywilliam9048 6 жыл бұрын
ATE UP that’s why there’s still Christians
@theeyeofgod8316
@theeyeofgod8316 6 жыл бұрын
What truth? The religious speak from their fears and the delusional schizotypalism.
@thewildchimp
@thewildchimp 6 жыл бұрын
No, he isn't. If someone asks me what I think about the homosexuals and why, it's only fair that I get to ask him the same. If that person says that my opinion is wrong, then she needs to validate her own opinion. People often tend to demand proofs from Christians. Why are we always on the accused one's seat? Actually, we don't have to discuss anything. If we don't like, for example, gay marriage, we can try to make it illegal again. Why? Because God says so. There is no God? Alright, then because we feel like it. It's immoral? Why, if there is no God and no conscience? Who decides what right and what's wrong if there's no God? In Canada they'll take away your children and put them for adoption if you teach them that homosexuality isn't good. Isn't that the very definition of oppression and intolerance? Why do I have to be tolerant and accept gayism, if pro-gay people won't be tolerant and accept that I don't like it? I'm not walking around looking for homosexuals to stone to death or to abuse in any way, as a matter of fact, I don't even dislike gay people, rather the thing they practice, yet I'm gonna lose my children if I tell them that I don't like it? This pattern you can apply on virtually every topic. Besides, why are gays so obsessed with marriage - if there is no God? Without the sanctity of the marriage - it's just a couple of signatures on a piece of paper...
@thewildchimp
@thewildchimp 6 жыл бұрын
Uh-huh... Then explain heterosexual men and women turned homosexual in adult age. Then I'd like you to explain how come there are heterosexual people with the same biological condition. After that, I'd like to remind you that babies are actually asexual and that sexual attraction develops in later stages of growing up or never. And how on Earth did you come to conclusion that this is the reason for homosexuality? As I've said it - not all homosexuals have the condition. Some children adopted by the homosexuals turn homosexual later on, making their own choice, rather then suffering from some imagined condition, invented to give legitimacy to homosexual behaviour. Jesus Christ, man... You are basically describing religious people like lunatics... Is that how you validate your diploma, by bashing people you don't understand because it's popular to do so? And you are making some ridiculous statements. Are you not aware that Christianity originated in what are modern Palestine and Israel and spread throughout the entire world, despite the horrendous atrocities inflicted upon Christians by the non-Christians? Turek said it well, I'll paraphrase: "You can't be a scientist if you don't understand philosophy." That is, if you are bad with making logical conclusions.
@existace
@existace 3 жыл бұрын
He's so right. Sexual revolution has brought us nothing but pain. God is always right.
@jello1847
@jello1847 4 жыл бұрын
Thank God for men like this !!! May we raise up an entire generation of true biblical apologists !!!
@LuckveerN
@LuckveerN 6 жыл бұрын
Keep on going. Dr. Turek!
@DjKRuZe81
@DjKRuZe81 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Frank 🙏 what a brilliant response 👊
@sunlightofspirt
@sunlightofspirt 5 жыл бұрын
Wonderfully stated. Hard to recreate.
@Levi-yv9oe
@Levi-yv9oe 4 жыл бұрын
This is awesome.
@captainmorgan2307
@captainmorgan2307 6 жыл бұрын
That was deep. Thanks Frank!
@BenjaminQ23
@BenjaminQ23 5 жыл бұрын
Very well said presentation. I couldn't agree more.
@Kadbros
@Kadbros 4 жыл бұрын
Blessed are the peacemakers, not the peacekeepers. A peacemaker is someone who is willing to resolve both outer and inner turmoil in order to establish peace with others and within themselves. A peacekeeper, on the other hand, desires to maintain peace by avoiding conflict. They typically give in to the tension or steer clear of disagreement to keep others happy.
@FanofAslan
@FanofAslan 3 жыл бұрын
Very good. I can anticipate a response being along the lines of "We are now more advanced than we were & can see the justice of same-sex marriage. It's the 21st Century. Laws and rights are human-made. God isn't required to make something right or wrong. We can set our own rights based on an evolved mind and democracy." What would be an intelligent answer to that?
@Mike82ARP
@Mike82ARP 5 жыл бұрын
Read Greg Koukl's, "Tactics"
@waterheaterservices
@waterheaterservices 4 жыл бұрын
This channel does not have Party Approved Correct Thinking and Speech.
@estebanramirez6301
@estebanramirez6301 2 жыл бұрын
This video was a slow burn for both Christians and non-Christians. As a Christian, I'll definitely use those 4 methods.
@sirgoogus4005
@sirgoogus4005 4 жыл бұрын
The App he is refering to is the Cross Examined App. Search Cross Examined in the Google store.
@jojanen6169
@jojanen6169 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I could like this video million times.
@EfEiJei
@EfEiJei 5 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@JiraiyaSama86
@JiraiyaSama86 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reminder about doubts. It makes sense that if someone doesn't have doubts about the topic at hand, then they're not ready to have an open discussion. Edit- Again with the wife?! Lol. I can't help you. If she chews your ear out for this, well.... you know. 😅😅😅
@Tatiana-cp1fc
@Tatiana-cp1fc 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent!!!!!
@nathanaelcammay75
@nathanaelcammay75 5 жыл бұрын
Tatiana J give me a son.
@icegod101
@icegod101 5 жыл бұрын
Nathan it’s not a candy
@rescand2
@rescand2 3 жыл бұрын
In El Paso, TX a church got sued by a mayor for getting a petition signed for not allowing a mayor to sign a bill that would allow any unmarried couple to receive benefits (tax dollars) if they worked for the city, and of course, the media took that and bent it to mean that the pastor was solely against homosexual couples to not receive those benefits. They also tried to recall the mayor.
@Cpursup
@Cpursup 4 жыл бұрын
SO GOOD!!
@barnabasalbonetti2536
@barnabasalbonetti2536 3 жыл бұрын
we are way too tolerant. Thinking just talking to someone and telling them they are wrong is not taking a stand unless you follow through with some type of discipline/punishment nothing will change
@kingdomsouljas1175
@kingdomsouljas1175 5 жыл бұрын
Let’s go Frank!!
@JG13212
@JG13212 Жыл бұрын
Colossions 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power
@jamesdev5226
@jamesdev5226 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus said clearly those who have ears listen and obey. He never forced anyone. So.. If someone wants to persuade or follow same sex marriage go ahead.. Jesus will judge every single thing that we humans are committing... As Jesus said you have eyes to see but you don't see Ears to hear but you don't hear.. It shows our sinful nature and our crave for sin to satisfy our lustful nature
@pearldyke2665
@pearldyke2665 3 жыл бұрын
Beautifully put👍
@shawncamp333
@shawncamp333 3 жыл бұрын
What an amazing question
@toringorman843
@toringorman843 3 жыл бұрын
AMEN 🙏
@littleredpony6868
@littleredpony6868 3 жыл бұрын
for those who believe that homosexuality is immoral, what harm does homosexuality cause?
@madambutterfly7513
@madambutterfly7513 3 жыл бұрын
As a Christian woman, I'm not tolerant at all with those who think abortion is ok, transgender is ok, homosexuality is ok , I am very opposed to all of these!! I don't think a liberal can be truly a child of God bc anything & everything is ok
@nickgagnon3626
@nickgagnon3626 3 жыл бұрын
Whats wrong with homosexuality?
@dylanmilks
@dylanmilks 3 жыл бұрын
Very well stated.
@marleneandrea6998
@marleneandrea6998 2 жыл бұрын
Alguien en podría traducir este video. Por favor.
@keldurant
@keldurant 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a Christian that's been having a lot of doubts recently and I just wanna throw two simple questions out their to see if someone can answer. Why does God in the bible seem to protect his people, but now we see people in churches get gunned down, or people that believe in him just get shot when they went to an event, or just simply at the wrong place at the wrong time. Why does the protection the bible says God gives to us seem to be very rarely applied to believers now. I'm not making the argument that God is evil because bad things happen to good people, but like why do I never see Psalm 5:11, 2 Thessalonians 3:3, 2 Samuel 22:3-4, why don't I see this protection in his people today. Second question: Why did God take everything away from Job, even to the point of killing his family just to prove a point to someone as low as the devil that he's a Godly man? That seem like something a mere human would do.
@kurtgundy
@kurtgundy 6 жыл бұрын
Kel Durant First question...why dont I see His protection, as in the Bible? I would say its not as obvious because we dont know what we dont know. Also we cant see the spiritual world. I can think of many times ive been protected from being hurt, in a car accident for example, or protected from having an accident in the first place. But only God knows how many times He's protected me and i had no clue i needed protection. i might have been killed a hundred times over, but never knew i was that close to dying, because my vision/knowlege is very limited. Suppose i was 30 seconds earlier or later. Thats all it takes to avoid an accident. We'll never know how many accidents didnt happen because i took a different root, i was running late, or a friend canceled plans to meet...the list is almost endless. You know about the shooting at the church, but you dont know how many shootings God prevented from happening. Why did God allow THAT shooting? We might never know in this life. Then consider my blindness to the spiritual world. Read 2 Kings 6:15-17.
@kurtgundy
@kurtgundy 6 жыл бұрын
Kel Durant Your second question about Job...that was not about showing Satan anything, that was written for you and me.
@animebety
@animebety 6 жыл бұрын
Kel Durant protect them from what? Death?
@animebety
@animebety 6 жыл бұрын
Saint Gundy True it could even be possible that by allowing that one shooting to take place millions of deaths were avoided by way of butterfly effect 500 years in the future God is that great
@keldurant
@keldurant 6 жыл бұрын
animebety I've heard of that. But why can't God just protect his people like he says he does in the bible all the time? Like why doesn't he go to great lengths to protect his people like he did in the old testament now? I'm not trying to make trick question, I'm just genuinely wondering.
@justincameron9661
@justincameron9661 4 жыл бұрын
Great video
@viktorijakrasovska8390
@viktorijakrasovska8390 3 жыл бұрын
this is fiiiiiiiiiire
@zeddicuszorrander3599
@zeddicuszorrander3599 4 жыл бұрын
Is this going to go to the "tolerate my intolerance" ideology?
@ClergetMusic
@ClergetMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, the age old conflation of rights with privileges.
@mikemike7326
@mikemike7326 6 жыл бұрын
What app is he referring to?
@Adrian-ri8my
@Adrian-ri8my 4 жыл бұрын
Its called “cross examined” on the app store
@kasrkin3521
@kasrkin3521 4 жыл бұрын
clash of clans
@lessermook7608
@lessermook7608 6 жыл бұрын
He started off his question very weird..lol
@0wnageclan
@0wnageclan 6 жыл бұрын
L K lol
@ernstboyd8745
@ernstboyd8745 3 жыл бұрын
that's is great book title. "correct - not politically correct"
@philb4462
@philb4462 2 жыл бұрын
4:02 "They just heard a slogan..." This from the man who says if you get answer question X give them the response we tell you on our app 2:02! 🤣😅😂 Think these things through for yourselves. Hear both sides. Let your ideas be challenged. Be prepared to change your mind. There are plenty of rebuttals to Frank's nonsense. Listen to them before you decide to settle on what he tells you just because they align with what you already believe.
@Jaiflyy
@Jaiflyy 5 жыл бұрын
the word Tolerant is starting to sound weird. Doesnt sound like a word now haha
@stevenrowlands7731
@stevenrowlands7731 2 жыл бұрын
I am an atheist and how would I define good without god? Same sex marriage is a good thing due to the fact that allowing two people (who happen to be the same sex) will make them both happy and give them the legal status of sharing a life. And if something makes them happy it is good. Also why... Now I really want to know the answer... Why does God even care who you share a bed with? And why do theists hate it? Because if being a theist means you need to like the same things as god because God like those things I'm glad I don't believe
@aubreyleonae4108
@aubreyleonae4108 3 жыл бұрын
The farce is strong in this one.
@wadewofford5645
@wadewofford5645 6 жыл бұрын
What "app" is he referring to?
@kevinmichaelvalencia8160
@kevinmichaelvalencia8160 5 жыл бұрын
Hey..i dont know if you already found it, but it can be found in the app store..crossexamined app..probably that one.
@michaelwill7811
@michaelwill7811 5 жыл бұрын
@@kevinmichaelvalencia8160 Thanks for that, I was wondering the same thing.
@billybubone
@billybubone 4 жыл бұрын
Question: If a father molests his child, is it right to divorce him? At that point isn't it in the child's best interest to leave him?
@enjoliturner4179
@enjoliturner4179 4 жыл бұрын
If anyone is bringing harm to a child, It is def in the child's best interest to get that child away from the person doing the harm, (parent or not). I would also report him to the authorities. I will be praying.
@Ben-br1bu
@Ben-br1bu 4 жыл бұрын
That's a good question. My answer would be that it would depend on what you mean by "divorce". If you just mean to leave him in order to get the child to another place where he cannot harm it, I would say yes. If you mean to leave the man and marry another, the answer is no. The moment you marry a person, you are made one flesh with that person. So if she leaves him, she should stay single. There is actually a verse about this in the Bible: "To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife." 1 Corinthians 7:10-11 Note that a woman should not seperate from her husband but if she does she is not allowed to take a new husband. So there is a standard of divorce being wrong generally but the Bible leaves room for the possibility of a woman (as being the weaker part) to seperate (probably in order to have the possibility to escape abuse) but she needs to remain unmarried then because she still has a covenant with her husband which she is not allowed to break. She promised, so she must fulfill it and cannot come together with someone else. But also notice how this is an exception only for the woman, not for the man. The man is held to a higher standard because he is supposed to provide for his wife. So, he cannot leave her for any reason because especially back then in this culture, this would have been very problematic for the wife who wasn't able to provide for herself.
@billybubone
@billybubone 4 жыл бұрын
Ben Hey, thank you for the really in depth answer, I really appreciate. But I won’t lie, now I am very worried for my mother, who claims to be a Christian. She left my biological father, who molested the children in the family, and is now married with more kids, to another man. Wouldn’t she be living in sin? It’s alright if you answer honestly, I get it. I am just curious to know if she has any hope. Now having multiple kids with two different men.
@Ben-br1bu
@Ben-br1bu 4 жыл бұрын
@@billybubone Well, I cannot speak on the behalf of God in this specific situation because I don't know your mother or all circumstances. Generally speaking, if a woman divorces and marries another, it would be adultery. However, I can say this: Every person on earth is a sinner, which is also the reason for why every person on earth needs a Saviour. The beauty of the Gospel is that Jesus took the punishment for our sins upon Himself when He died for us on the cross. Without Him, we are all lost because nobody is without sin. Therefore, I would conclude that if your mother truly believes in Jesus Christ as her Lord and Saviour, she would be saved regardless, as her sins would be forgiven. Also, we are not bound to a written law but we are living in the Spirit who guides us into the truth. So, judging by a written law is not entirely correct. I think that I wrote this earlier but I don't quite remember: Every situation is different and God is judging us by the heart, not by the outward appearance. Therefore, a Christian would be able to point out that remarriage is adultery in general we would not be able to judge the person based on it. Only God can judge and in the end, your mother needs to decide for herself what God tells her to do. I would be a liar if I would pretend that I'm not sinning in my life any longer, despite my efforts to change. But I'm absolutely certain that I am saved by the grace of God. Remember that we do not try to stop sinning in order to be saved but we want to stop sinning out of love for the God who has already saved us because we know that He doesn't like sin and we will live with Him together for all eternity. God bless you!
@billybubone
@billybubone 4 жыл бұрын
Ben Awe, God bless you too, thank you for clarifying.
@vertigo2894
@vertigo2894 2 жыл бұрын
No, I don't agree here. You can't tolerate the intolerant. Even tolerance has limits. Would you tolerate the Nazi ideology? Of course not, so when people say tolerance they mean within reason. Also, they mean tolerate people who look different, or who speak a different language.
@miguelguz11
@miguelguz11 4 жыл бұрын
What app he talkin bout?
@Adrian-ri8my
@Adrian-ri8my 4 жыл бұрын
Lone Gamer its called “cross examined” on the app store
@kevinneleven11
@kevinneleven11 3 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain to me the last part when he says about the sexual revolution parts?
@KodeLiMe
@KodeLiMe 3 жыл бұрын
The sexual revolution happened in the late 1960s. Look it up. Just about all of our cultural problems can be traced back to it.
@rortiz77
@rortiz77 6 жыл бұрын
App? There’s an App?
@trewmuzik
@trewmuzik 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for asking this. I was wondering the same!
@trewmuzik
@trewmuzik 6 жыл бұрын
leon4christ ty
@theeyeofgod8316
@theeyeofgod8316 6 жыл бұрын
There's a GOD app... you download it to your phone and speak directly to GOD!
@Irunwithscissors63
@Irunwithscissors63 6 жыл бұрын
What is the app called that you are referring to please?
@t32xx
@t32xx 6 жыл бұрын
Cross-examined I believe.
@Irunwithscissors63
@Irunwithscissors63 6 жыл бұрын
t32xx thank you. 😊
@Kitiwake
@Kitiwake 4 жыл бұрын
Look at the way the questioner is dressed. He lets himself down.
@MrEdwinRamone
@MrEdwinRamone 4 жыл бұрын
What app is he talking about!?
@empest-gv4wg
@empest-gv4wg 4 жыл бұрын
What app. Can I use
@nnelgyor8990
@nnelgyor8990 6 жыл бұрын
Right on Woody Harrelson.
@nonormies2837
@nonormies2837 3 жыл бұрын
Is he an audience plant with how he said every word of that including a book plug
@estelapuerto.9670
@estelapuerto.9670 2 жыл бұрын
Traducción al castellano por fabor
@170221dn
@170221dn 4 жыл бұрын
That all sounds very good. What happens when those questions are thrown back? Why do you believe what the bible says? Can you even prove your god exists nevermiond does anything? What would it look like if the bible was made up?
@Kitiwake
@Kitiwake 4 жыл бұрын
When Frank says "the church", to which church does he refer?
@Mommascooking420
@Mommascooking420 4 жыл бұрын
Pat Aherne catholic prob.
@waloalwynwayne7798
@waloalwynwayne7798 4 жыл бұрын
He means the Christian Church. Not any particular denomination.
@maow9240
@maow9240 4 жыл бұрын
we are the church
@gg0drk041
@gg0drk041 4 жыл бұрын
The christians.
@nemmrrc
@nemmrrc 4 жыл бұрын
The Church = the body of Christ. Those that follow Christ.
@estelapuerto.9670
@estelapuerto.9670 2 жыл бұрын
Traducir al español latino)
@TheAveryFilms
@TheAveryFilms 6 жыл бұрын
Islam treats sex as just physical.
@theuncensoredgospelwithqai8594
@theuncensoredgospelwithqai8594 4 жыл бұрын
Warning triggered atheists below⬇️
@mackdmara
@mackdmara 6 жыл бұрын
The church is far to quiet on an issue that was Deeply handled in the Bible & in the case of divorce, Jesus intentionally took it on. We need to gently, but firmly guard our values.
@buhawilakas4439
@buhawilakas4439 4 жыл бұрын
What app?
@demetriusmiddleton1246
@demetriusmiddleton1246 4 жыл бұрын
It has the same name as his channel
@shanerider1987
@shanerider1987 6 жыл бұрын
What app is he talking about in this video
@TestTheSpiritsIfTheyAreOfYAH
@TestTheSpiritsIfTheyAreOfYAH 6 жыл бұрын
Shane Rider Cross examined in app store on your phone.
@aubreywilliam9048
@aubreywilliam9048 6 жыл бұрын
Shane Rider grindr
@antoinjohnson4146
@antoinjohnson4146 3 жыл бұрын
Does he make money off this app, cause if he do he’s wrong
@Izzazzo
@Izzazzo 5 жыл бұрын
and what do you suggest the rest of us do, in order to tolerate HIS sin and offence? He stands there as though he is the example of christian perfection. one day he'll know the answer to his question. he won't need anyone to tell him. Love one another......someone said that once......
@michaelwill7811
@michaelwill7811 5 жыл бұрын
What evidence do you have, that he is, or thinks that he is, the example of "Christian perfection"? According to God, we are all sinners and will remain that way to the day we leave this world. If you are really honest with yourself, you know this to be true. A true Christian knows this without a doubt and readily admits to their fallen nature so what has Dr. Turek said, or done, that suggests he is coming off as "holier than thou?"
@evidencebasedfaith6658
@evidencebasedfaith6658 6 жыл бұрын
People still sell vacuums door to door. Lol. Well I prefer to call them home cleaning systems.
@michaelwill7811
@michaelwill7811 5 жыл бұрын
for $1,500, they better be! hehehe
@cliveaw1206
@cliveaw1206 6 жыл бұрын
truth bombbbbbb
@lucrayzor9657
@lucrayzor9657 3 жыл бұрын
Question 1: Yes, but only when it's reciprocal. If by tolerating intolerant views I enable those views to go on to promote further intolerance, that defeats the whole purpose of tolerance(paradox of tolerance). Thus, justification for refusing to tolerate homophobia/transphobia. Question 2: I simply mean morally acceptable. Without belief in God, we're just left to chart out our own moral compasses and decide as a species what behavior is acceptable. We don't need a higher authority to tell us what rights we have or what we can or can't do, you've just probably never seen things through a non-christian lens. Question 3: My justification is that there's no good reason to condemn LGBT behavior outside of the context of god. It's consensual adults doing their thing, not getting anyone involved that doesn't want to. No tangible drawbacks on society large… seriously, just let people enjoy what they want. Question 4: No, because that's silly. Again, We as a culture have made the decision of what rights we have as human beings over time, it really doesn't take a high authority to sort that out. You really are just incapable of understanding the atheist worldview. Also, this idea that the world at large views sex as purely physical is absolutely ridiculous. There's an undeniable emotional aspect to it; facilitating a bond and all that. Again, no God required. That's what sets homosexuality aside from rape, pedophilia and zoophilia; none of those 3 involve genuine consent, and without consent there's no true relationship being cultivated.
@arulnathan632
@arulnathan632 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry Frank, If death had reigned even before Adam sinned, God wouldn't have said "all good" when He created plants, animals and eventually man. Romans clearly says the wages of sin is death. Before man's sin there was no death in the world. Everyone wants to somehow account for the evolution theory which is a hoax and say the days of creation are longer. Day is literal in the first 11 chapters of Genesis as it is in throughout the Bible.
@apurvanair2056
@apurvanair2056 3 жыл бұрын
How do you know it's literal? Just curious
@TJ-kk5zf
@TJ-kk5zf 3 жыл бұрын
what a plant
@michaelrud4351
@michaelrud4351 6 жыл бұрын
You can say its good based off of what western culture is built on, liberties. No God needed. Humans are a very social species, and we want to be happy. Well, creating a system in which everybody has the right to pursue happiness as long as it doesn't inhibit the liberties of others is an objectively good system. You can think being tolerant of trans, gay marriage, (insert any other leftist talking point) is good based off of that.
@animebety
@animebety 6 жыл бұрын
Michael Rud Western Culture was build on liberties liberties that came from God
@michaelrud4351
@michaelrud4351 6 жыл бұрын
animebety they might have gotten some the ideas from biblical origins, but that doesn't mean they came from God or even need him. Say God doesn't exist, those liberties could still hold up without the "Holy authority", thus you dont need him. And only some of the liberties are of biblical orgigin, plenty are not tho, but that's not the point. They dont say you need God to make the liberties, but that you need him to make them objective. Thats the difference.
@Arachnoscribe
@Arachnoscribe 6 жыл бұрын
animebety: The framework of Western Culture was built upon the foundation of everything that came before, including but not limited to the Judeo-Christian deity model.
@michaelwill7811
@michaelwill7811 5 жыл бұрын
You need to brush up on history as it pertains to how and why we wound up with the laws we have.
@cmvamerica9011
@cmvamerica9011 4 жыл бұрын
Religion allows people to believe as a group, what only an insane person could believe on their own.
@kwekuj641
@kwekuj641 4 жыл бұрын
Im sorry you believe that
@kwekuj641
@kwekuj641 4 жыл бұрын
See, the meaning of 'Gospel' is literally 'good news'. So for me personally, in telling someone about my religion, im sincerely trying to let you know about something wonderful and amazing that has happened which has saved us all from our sins
@Applefreak52
@Applefreak52 5 жыл бұрын
You figure out that your religious beliefs should not shape laws. That's how you deal with it bro.
@phoenixrise3126
@phoenixrise3126 5 жыл бұрын
Who shapes YOUR LAWS?
@Applefreak52
@Applefreak52 5 жыл бұрын
@@phoenixrise3126 I don't have any laws, I'm a person. If your referring to the governments laws it's votes where I live. No where does it say we should check a religious text for laws.
@michaelwill7811
@michaelwill7811 5 жыл бұрын
@@Applefreak52 So then, it's ok to rape someone, or kill them... if you so decide?
@maow9240
@maow9240 4 жыл бұрын
@@Applefreak52 just because something is set as a "law" by people doesn't mean the law is right. late term abortion is the perfect example.
@Applefreak52
@Applefreak52 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelwill7811 If the collective of government decides it should not be against the law then yes. Not me specifically. Even at that rate it does not mean I would murder or rape someone.
@michaelbucksmith7668
@michaelbucksmith7668 4 жыл бұрын
Hard time defining good without reference to god? Nonsense!!
@kwekuj641
@kwekuj641 4 жыл бұрын
So define it?
@michaelbucksmith7668
@michaelbucksmith7668 4 жыл бұрын
​@@kwekuj641 How about good is what preserves and develops wellbeing. Do you need more than that?
@rickvaldes4847
@rickvaldes4847 5 жыл бұрын
Since when did the church make Law in this country. We don't live in an Islamic state Frank!!
@suem6004
@suem6004 5 жыл бұрын
Since about 800 years starting with the Magna Carta. The individual as having anything known as legal rights stems from Christian Redeemer who died to expiate for the sins of an individual. Islam has no redeemer. No altruism by God on behalf of an individual. That starts the development of rights and laws developed over millennia and brought by Christian protestant pilgrims who colonized America. And rights deemed inalienable from God in the Declaration of Independence. The invented separation of church and state is not in the constitution. Freedom of religion not freedom from religion. Secularists have sought to strip religious tolerance yet have nothing to replace inalienable judeo christian values, laws or rights. Secularism is relativistic lacking any ability to determine good and evil as such are socially constructed thus can disappear at a whim.
@fernandocuriel124
@fernandocuriel124 5 жыл бұрын
Rick Valdes LOL! 😂 He’s not referring the Church making law in this country. It’s about TOLERANCE.
@fernandocuriel124
@fernandocuriel124 5 жыл бұрын
Rick Valdes A typical straw man argument.
@theeyeofgod8316
@theeyeofgod8316 6 жыл бұрын
WHAT IS A BELIEF WITHOUT EVIDENCE? It's called religion. An emotionally driven thought sensation or wish thinking that assumes that the feelings of hopelessness, disparity, and angish that is felt by humanity is being responded to by an anthropomorphilogical intervening deity that hears prayers and grants wishes.
@RosannaMiller
@RosannaMiller 5 жыл бұрын
You know what another belief (system) without evidence? Atheism! And EVOLUTION!
@phoenixrise3126
@phoenixrise3126 5 жыл бұрын
What do you believe and why?
@michaelwill7811
@michaelwill7811 5 жыл бұрын
What is your definition of the word "evidence"?
@dukelmg1
@dukelmg1 6 жыл бұрын
You can have your opinion and think gay marriage is wrong. But that doesn't give you the right to block others from doing it. These arguments and word games are ridiculous, and it's why so many people are leaving the faith. You guys are on the wrong side of history. Thankfully, equal marriage is a done deal.
@saulmartinezmartinez9736
@saulmartinezmartinez9736 6 жыл бұрын
Michael H you can do it people do it all the time you have free will you can do anything you want like not believe in God but the ability to do something makes it moral that is what your stating which is false it's illogical
@onealr
@onealr 6 жыл бұрын
Saul Martínez Martínez don't consider this point, KNOW AND ACCEPT this point: what YOU consider wrong or amoral is irrelevant to OTHER people's lives! If no one is being hurt, you're feelings of right or wrong are not important. Because not everyone is willing to accept your world view. So to some people God doesn't exist. That's a fact you must deal with (you cannot change this). Some things you consider to be taboo issues, are not issues for other people. The OP is 100% correct. You see what I did there I gave you hard facts, not rhetorical games presented in this video. Once you get to the root of the issue, and you're conversing with someone intelligent, these little word games Frank plays, do not work.
@joshuaWEC
@joshuaWEC 6 жыл бұрын
O'Neal Rimpson The truth doesn't change. The truth is not dependant on whether people believe it or not. God is God even if no person believed in Him. 1+1 =2 no matter what people believe it to equal. fire will burn you no matter what you believe if you stick your hand in it. People will die of thirst if they go long enough without liquid no matter what they believe about it. The earth is not flat no matter what flat earthers believe about it. The sun is hot no matter what people believe about it. We're on youtube right now even if my grandma says we're on Twitter.
@onealr
@onealr 6 жыл бұрын
joshua church let's make this short and sweet. What you said is correct cold hard facts. Here's another one, you cannot prove what you believe. That is also a fact. That's why it's called faith, because there's no definitive proof. You presented facts, and tried to join your faith in with the facts you presented. Like I said those rhetorical games don't work. If someone doesn't believe what you do you're gonna have to accept that, and I encourage you to let people live their lives as they please especially since it doesn't affect you, or your salvation.
@onealr
@onealr 6 жыл бұрын
joshua church you can't blame people for not wanting to spend time and money on something they don't believe is true, especially when it's being sold as 100% truth with any definitive evidence. That's like saying I have medication to reverse the aging process but I don't have the proof needed to make that claim. The pill cost $200/month but I can't provide the proof that you need to know it works. Just come here every week buy the pills for $50 and take my word for it. Some people will buy every week wanting for it to work, some will say no. Can't be mad at either it's their prerogative.
@Bc232klm
@Bc232klm 6 жыл бұрын
This is a terrible answer. The US is a secular country, not a Christian sharia. If you don't like gay married, don't get gay married. You're surely not for making all sins illegal, are you? We're not "intolerant" when we don't tolerate your hate and bigotry.
@fernandocuriel124
@fernandocuriel124 5 жыл бұрын
C0110 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! 😂😂😂👎
@fernandocuriel124
@fernandocuriel124 5 жыл бұрын
C0110 LOL! “WE’RE NOT ‘INTOLERANT’ WHEN WE DON’T TOLERATE YOUR HATE AND BIGOTRY.” You just prove Frank Turek’s point. LOL! 😂
@fernandocuriel124
@fernandocuriel124 5 жыл бұрын
C0110 A typical straw man and zombie argument as always. Including a ad hominem attack at the end of your comment. A VERY INTELLECTUAL DISHONEST RESPONSE; POSTMODERNISM SUCKS.
@fernandocuriel124
@fernandocuriel124 5 жыл бұрын
C0110 Your Quote, “WE’RE NOT ‘INTOLERANT’ WHEN WE DON’T TOLERATE YOUR HATE AND BIGOTRY.” Okay Mr. Thought Police (ORWELLIAN). You’re absolutely a true LOST CAUSE. Get Help. You should definitely look yourself at the mirror.
@michaelwill7811
@michaelwill7811 5 жыл бұрын
The US is not a secular country. The vast majority are religious. Our government was designed to be secular in nature but the Founders agreed that it would not last long if run by people who were not "moral and religious". Incorrect, you'd be. It's a great answer and the only path this country has to survival and all one needs to do is look at the current state of affairs to realize it is probably too late. “America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.” This quote is often attributed to Abraham Lincoln but there are suggestions it didn't come from him. Regardless, who ever said it looks like a bit of a prophet, these days...
@Applefreak52
@Applefreak52 5 жыл бұрын
No divorce is because people are shitty. I am divorced, stop dragging out your emotional appeals to try to answer real problems.
@ertfgghhhh
@ertfgghhhh 5 жыл бұрын
Im divorced also. People Divorce cause they are unforgiving
@Applefreak52
@Applefreak52 4 жыл бұрын
@@ertfgghhhh forgiveness is a trash idea. If you forgive someone to the point of letting them hurt you again then you probably deserve it. Fool me once.
@Applefreak52
@Applefreak52 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelwill7811 I completely agree. But I waited 6 years to marry my ex wife. So time is not always the answer.
@michaelwill7811
@michaelwill7811 4 жыл бұрын
@@Applefreak52 I didn't suggest that "time" was the answer. "Hurry" doesn't necessarily imply more time is required. And while making an intelligent decision does require time, time is incidental.
@Applefreak52
@Applefreak52 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelwill7811 lol I have never heard anyone use the word "hurry" and it not be in reference to time.
@Bill_Garthright
@Bill_Garthright 6 жыл бұрын
"No authority in the sexual revolution"? Why would you think that _you_ should be the "authority" when it comes to someone else's sex life? If it's between consenting adults, why is it any of _your_ business? _"Do you consider yourself a tolerant person?"_ Well, I'm intolerant of lies. I'm intolerant of people causing harm to other people. When it comes to gay marriage, though, "tolerance" doesn't seem to have anything to do with it. Being gay isn't a moral issue. Being transgender isn't a moral issue. They're just facts. You can believe whatever you like. I'm certainly "tolerant" of that. If I think you're wrong, I'll still argue against that belief, though. After all, if you think _I'm_ wrong, I'd certainly want you to try to change _my_ mind. (That's because I _care_ about the truth of my beliefs. If I'm wrong, I want to know that, so I can change my mind.) If you discriminate against me because I'm an atheist, though, that's different. If you discriminate against black people, against women, against gay people, against transgender people, that's different. It would be just the same if Christians were discriminated against, too. _"if they say 'I think same sex marriage is a good thing' or transgenderism"_ You seem to be missing the point entirely. Being gay or transgender isn't a "good" thing and it isn't a "bad" thing. It's just reality for some people. Equal rights _is_ a good thing, and I can argue for that, if you actually oppose it. _"They're going to have a very difficult time defining 'good' without reference to God"_ Bullshit. Google is your friend. Good: "to be desired or approved of." Of course, "good" is a word we use in multiple ways, so there are many different definitions. But I don't see that _any_ of them require 'God.' _"There's gotta be a standard outside of us"_ Evidence? _"If there's no god, there's no right to anything"_ Evidence? _"Rights are something you have regardless of what the government says"_ Not true. Women didn't have the right to vote in America until 1920. IMO, they _should_ have had the right to vote before then (the Bible was one of the main things holding them back), but they didn't. _"How did you come to that conclusion"_ What conclusion? That women should have always had the right to vote? Do you _disagree_ with that conclusion? I can answer that, but I won't bother if it's just a way to make me waste my time. _"When somebody says something... it's their job to support what they say"_ Exactly - at least, if they're making a claim. That's why I'm always asking Christians for evidence that their god - or _any_ god - actually exists. Do you _have_ any evidence - any _good_ evidence - that your god exists? _"Have you ever considered..."_ You're kidding, right? Here in America, we atheists have typically been surrounded by Christians our entire life. Heck, I didn't know a single other person who _wasn't_ a Christian (as far as I knew, at least) all through high school, _at least._ Indeed, I've rarely known another atheist even since then. It's Christians who tend to be taught their beliefs as children, before they've even developed the _capability_ of critical thought, and then grow up in a bubble, surrounded by other Christians. Atheists have thought about this stuff - most of us, at least. Have you? _"If you're asking me what the Bible says"_ Why would I care what the Bible says? Why would I care what the Quran says? Why would I care what the Bhagavad Gita says? Why would I care what the Book of Mormon says? Why would I care about any of that? _"People sometimes get hurt beyond recovery when it comes to sex"_ And often, it's because of prudes like you. The people who are hurt are often hurt because of hypocritical Christian prudes, because of ignorant Christians who attempt to follow an old book of primitive superstition, because of religious bigots who treat even their own children like dirt, let alone other people's children. _"Probably more than half the people in this room have been scarred by the sexual revolution"_ Heh, heh. Yeah, right. Let's bring back the old days when fathers sold their daughters, when women had no rights, when rape victims were forced to marry their attackers. It's remarkable to me how much you sound like the Taliban.
@bread2770
@bread2770 6 жыл бұрын
I was lost once.
@caustixsoda8125
@caustixsoda8125 6 жыл бұрын
Bread so was I
@Bill_Garthright
@Bill_Garthright 6 жыл бұрын
_I was lost once._ Were you scared? I hope your mommy found you. But what does that have to do with anything I said?
@TheJpgr1958
@TheJpgr1958 6 жыл бұрын
Bill Garthright: "If it's between consenting adults, why is it any of your business?" So if you were married, and your wife had an affair, would you give your consent for her to do that? But hold on here, if she and her lover consented to do so, then why would it be any of your business, therefore why would you even care right?
@johnlove2954
@johnlove2954 6 жыл бұрын
+TheJpgr1958 The funny thing is that most people who believe that it is someone's sex life is no one's business, also believe in minimum wage...
@TJ-kk5zf
@TJ-kk5zf 5 жыл бұрын
Ugh. These are all just verbal traps.
@fredtheunicorn4241
@fredtheunicorn4241 5 жыл бұрын
A technique to avoid discussing the issues on the merits.
@michaelwill7811
@michaelwill7811 5 жыл бұрын
Traps to get people to think on their own instead of chanting what the world wants them to think? How absolutely dreadful!
@michaelschuster4407
@michaelschuster4407 6 жыл бұрын
What app is he referring to?
@demetriusmiddleton1246
@demetriusmiddleton1246 4 жыл бұрын
It has the same name as his channel
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