Questions, Coffee & Cars

[@gpltd0097]

I love you guys for your honesty and information given on the vehicle fuel economy and more.❤

[@dieterwolf9549]

Knowing how to drive a dual clutch at low speeds is no different than driving a stick shift car. If you modulate the throttle correctly you don't "confuse" the dual clutch software. It's actually a great transmisission for drivers that understand how it works. Having said that, the average driver is better off with a more traditional automatic.

[@Fivemonthslater1]

My Mazda CX-90 has a wet clutch, and it’s similar. If you drive it like a normal car, it can be annoying, but once you learn to drive it, you can really feel the benefits. But I have decades’ experience with a manual, so that helps.

[@calebwany8422]

Having to learn how to throttle a pedal is wild

[@got_to_roll]

Another great video, thanks! I've driven 26,000 miles in 13 months with the dct in my Santa Fe 2.5T. I've owned many manuals and drive this similarly. I think if you understand the difference and "feel" the car, the dct is fine. I also believe the newer BMW X5 (I'm fairly obsessed with it) is a mild hybrid.

[@johnholst]

The DCT in the Santa Fe is a completely different trans than the old Seltos has. But glad you're enjoying it. Nice machine!

[@urbo42]

The dual clutch transmission in our 2012 FIAT 500 worked faultlessly over the 12 years we owned it. On top of that, it was faster 0-100 kmh than the standard 5 speed. A peppy little car that made a quick trip Toronto-Florida-Toronto without issue. The cruise worked well with the transmission. A highly underrated car in my experience. Sold it because we needed a four door.

[@hereigoagain5050]

Wow! Zack agreed with Andrea on the Crown. My sister-in-law bought a Crown sedan and loves it.

[@paininthepatoot]

Decades of quality makes it for me. The Toyota hybrid compents are tried and true. The Car Nut says the new Crown Signia is a parts bin vehicle and he thinks that is a good thing. The Signia makes use of a hybrid system and gas motor that have been running pretty much trouble free in other Toyota vehicles for years. Its called building on sucess.

[@Mo.Jo.]

@0:30 - that's why i love my Acura (Honda) 8 Speed DCT with Torque Converter. I've probably felt the jitteriness maybe a handful of times in the many years I've owned it.

[@reginaldsisco2973]

What a bomber! However, I understand. Thank you for bringing us along.

[@jazzjokesjalopies]

Whenever I spot a Q3, I think, that’s a good-looking package in the right size for a retired couple like us.

[@sugarhog1938]

Too expensive tho, for a cheaper price I would rather go glc or x3

[@sagebrushnw485]

Good choice of wardrobe for this video! Not distracting from the content of the show!

[@THEREALTJP]

Congratulations to No. 125 🤗 I keep trying to make it for a question!

[@lenimbery7038]

Yep. Tesla has proven that they know what they’re doing and the vast majority of owners love them

[@Rondawg24680]

LOVE YOUR CHANNEL …..In regards to mitshubishi outlander phev and cold temperatures ….. I have a 2023 outlander Phev and live in northern Ontario… did experi ence some -30 c last January and mine started immediately….. it did say reduced power mode but I drove it all over town and a run on the highway….. seemed ok to me ….. haven’t done the software update yet ?…. AND it was a MOTORMOUTH review on the 2023 mitshubishi outlander PHEV that helped me decide on buying the vehicle ….

[@manmeetsingh0111]

Stellantis increased the price of their vehicles like crazy in year 2020-2021 and now they complaint their vehicles are not selling well. Their product quality has also dropped with multiple problems reported in their vehicles across the lineup. How the hell are they charging 80K+ for grand Cherokee PHEV. I am quite sure they are not thinking from their brain.

[@Michael-db4sn]

Thinking from their checkbook

[@kohark64]

how are they going to pay the UAW otherwise?

[@LordDelCasa]

agree 100% the greedy b**tards still had the gall to charge 10k "dealership markups" on overpriced garbage cars. Not surprised with the way things are going. 100k for a Jeep is hilarious.

[@sunshinesuen6998]

Stellantis garbage collection😅 hahaha😅

[@boatfund2909]

You guys are really good. If you're wondering if Toyota highlander batteries last, I'm still driving my 2006 hybrid with no problems and 240,00 miles.

[@Michael-db4sn]

Think you answered your own question.

[@RobertOlds.630]

Of course, it's a Toyota.

[@Revoncheap]

The new hybrids with lithium batteries will be dead by then.🤔

[@basildavidson4597]

Another very insightful program 👍🏻

[@vinaybelgaumkar6288]

Love your videos, thanks for doing them. What car do you drive, btw (where you do your Q&A)? It looks like a Q7 but I can't be certain.

[@andreaspencer9813]

We are sitting in our Porsche Cayenne.

[@AlDo-l5x]

The reason Stellantis is in trouble, in my opinion, is because of its CEO. He wanted short term gain, so he cut costs, by using cheaper materials, and therefore poorer quality and reliability, and raised vehicle prices. So he got a compensation package pay of $39 million in 2023. He was the CEO since Stellantis was formed in 2021. He signed a 5-year contract, and will retire in 2026. Like many other CEO’s, he just cares about his pay, and the hell with the company, its customers, and its future.

[@SG-js2qn]

Well put

[@KenCheng]

regarding the question about the Subaru Outback... I bought mine BECAUSE it's a wagon (the Wilderness trim). There really isn't anything out there like it... a wagon on stilts. I mean, if you think about it... the Toyota Signia is a wagon... I don't care what Toyota wants to call it... but it's a wagon.... So, some people say they wouldn't be caught dead in a "stationwagon"... that's fine... go get a crossover and look like every other vehicle on the road 🙄

[@davidjym]

Outback is the last remaining 'wagon' out there.

[@marcelpatel9017]

Toyota built and pioneered the segment for hybrids in 1990's. They are leaps and fathoms ahead of everyone who sold out to the EV hype.

[@svenhodaka9145]

Hybrids are an excellent transition vehicle which will help people become familiar with BEVs. Many Hybrid owners will buy a BEV next. Of course, for a few people, a hybrid will be a great choice.

[@billurban1581]

@@svenhodaka9145 PHEV’s are the ultimate solution, 5 to 7 PHEVs from the battery components needed for one EV. 5 to 7 PHEVs can cancel out four times the emissions canceled by one EV.

[@svenhodaka9145]

@@billurban1581 I agree for certain use cases. i.e. (one vehicle household, no level 2 home charger, living in remote areas, large distances, limited charging infrastructure, cold climate). Otherwise, if charging infrastructure is available why complicate things owning a vehicle with two drive trains (gas + electric)? 🤷‍♂️

[@10OF9OFBORG]

😂 One rule, Zack not allow to change his mind. 😆 Good one is Zack mentioned a horse mouth. 😆 Great show Andrea! ☕️☕️

[@CedroCron]

There are aftermarket things you can install to disable start/stop. I had one on my Toyota, it worked great.

[@nickolastiguan]

18:13 the transmission is laggy because it is traditional automatic, and there will always be a lag between the trans and the hybrid system. It drives better than a eCVT, but the trade off is the slight lag.

[@urbo42]

Funny you would mention how you will feel as you sleep tonight (Lexus vs Lincoln). In Toronto, will your Lexus be in your driveway the next morning? FWIW, I'd prefer the RX anyway.

[@grantboucher9342]

Zack said to buy toyota rav4 hybrid and i am so happy with it

[@LeonEaves-qr5hz]

Why does the eCVT get so many negative comments and negative comments in comparing with an automatic trans? I love my eCVT in my escape.

[@sugarhog1938]

A x3 phev is cheaper

[@sugarhog1938]

A x3 phev is cheaper

[@matthewspina4066]

Mitsubishi outlander all day everyday! I think they make the best PHEV on the market. Sad that it’s always overlooked

[@kdjunkins]

Both my 2017 BMW M240i and 2023 Camaro SS convertible have hill hold Manual transmissions - real easy to drive. DSG and or Dual Clutch could be more costly initially and to maintain

[@rickywhisenhunt4582]

Hybrids have proven to be an excellent choice. We can thank the early designs for what we have today. Toyota Prius in Japan in 1997, followed by the Honda Insight in 1999 led the way. They might not be the best option in areas that have extreme temperatures. It's a good idea to get an extended warranty on these vehicles. It's not a bad idea to know the type of battery and current replacement costs as that will give you as idea of the cost later on. Batteries can range from $2k to $8k. There are also other problems known for these vehicles. There are differences in type of Hybrids with plug-in having some advantages when it comes to emissions and systems. There are a lot of articles about know problems. Keep in mind that warranties for emissions systems are limited on new vehicle warranties and also extended warranties. There may be little or no coverage on these systems and it's one of the problem areas. I would recommend only keeping one for 4-6 years and trading in. The reasons are that they get better each year. Newer vehicles have safety changes and designs that improve every few years. Keep in mind that an extended warranty can have a refundable amount of not used and depending on your mileage. Also extended warranty purchase cost can be haggled over. In general, one should be able to get a good warranty for about $2k covering 7-10 years. The one on my 2025 Kia Carnival Hybrid SX cost $2,200 for 10 years 100,000 miles and $250. Deductible. They asked for $5400 as a starting price with no deductible. So, one has to be smart and know some dealerships are all about making a lot of profit on add-ons. Today's vehicles have a lot of high-tech systems and several computer chips. Repairs can be very costly due to training and certification to work on these and also, it's harder to repair vs to make a new car. Costs to assemble the systems are lower. Repairing involves tearing down (removing) systems and parts just to get to the area that needs repair and that increases the cost. $2k for a warranty is cheap when you divide the cost over the months and years covered. Kia vehicles have one of the best overall warranties in the industry. I always buy Kia vehicles due to this one fact. However, one can purchase any brand and add an extended warranty. It's just more important to add an extended warranty when a brand has a short coverage like 3 years 36k miles is really nothing. Keep really good maintenance records and do all recalls or you can be denied coverage. This is the number one error people make is not keeping detailed records. Also keep in mind that vehicles today track your driving and speeding habits. That includes hard breaking and a host of bad driving habits. They sell these reports to the insurance reporting agency. Also, they may be able use this data to deny your warranty claim. Some people have had insurance rates increased due to this. Perhaps that's good for crazy unsafe drivers! Read articles online about vehicle companies collecting and selling your data and that rules are different in each region as some governments have laws on place. Consumers have to complain about this to government officials and get changes made on privacy. For now - your smart vehicle is watching you and collecting data to include everywhere you drive and stop! The privacy and data collecting polices are really hard to find and understand and sometimes you can't opt out!

[@mfbikle]

7:20, My '23 Lexus NX 350h is a CVT, and so is the RX hybrid. GX and LX V-6 hybrids are regular 6 or 10 speed transmission.

[@CoreyMitchell-tv7zp]

i love ur content. my mum has the 2024 mitsubishi eclipse cross and she loves it.(its titanium colour)

[@saiya25]

I love everything about it except the gas consumption for it size, i wish it had a hybrid

[@papadougpapadougsadventures]

The Outback is a fantastic car and if it was a hybrid I would consider it for sure. Curious what the price will be over the standard car. The Crown Signia may still be the better deal.

[@nickolastiguan]

21:02 was in Vancouver last week, and rent a Model Y AWD with 20 inch wheels. Overall, it was actually pretty good, fairly normal to live with compared to a ICE car. But for a $65k CAD car, the interior really is meh at best (and noisy/not quiet enough), especially the centre console, cheap materials and scratches all over. The ride with the 20s is shockingly bad over potholes, speed bumps etc. the paint was very poor as well, few spots have what looks like “paint drip”, like when you paint your wall, and used too much paint and it runs off. I would wait for the new one - Juniper, as it should be an improvement like the Highland.

[@mr.2cents.846]

Just heal/toe a dual clutch at the start. 😉👍👍

[@Mike_Hartman]

My wife hates the DSG in my GTI; says it is janky and clunky. I love it 😂

[@ervlichterman4714]

Mazda did a software upgrade on the C X70 and CX 90 transmissions.

[@bricksbeersbeards9368]

pretty sure I saw an article that Mazda issued a software update for owners of the 70 that completely fixes the transmission issue, and that owners have the choice to come by at no charge to get the update.

[@ignaughtglautz2608]

With regards to the soon to be empty nesters looking for an upscale SUV that is hybrid, LINCOLN CORSAIR GRAND TOURING, very comfortable, good EV range, fantastic milage, have had ours for a year absolutely no problems.

[@billurban1581]

A friend is very pleased with a corsair PHEV.

[@wny9521]

I'm the 2nd question. Ya!

[@billurban1581]

Dual clutch or automatic? If the automatic has a lock up torque converter, then the dual clutch isn’t worth the aggravation. The ZF torque converter in my BMW locked up midway thru 2nd gear. Lock up torque converters banished the “slush box” term.

[@Hallowsaw]

There is so much talk on the outback pages about it is getting a more SUV look. There are even spy shots of something that is 100% a subaru but noone is certain that it is an ascent or an outback.

[@michaelbury1941]

Stellantis needs to stop overcharging for their vehicles in an already overcharged market

[@approots]

Did Zack just recommend the Tesla Model Y? Indeed, Tesla has proven they know what they're doing. My 2019 Model 3 has never been to a service center. Mobile service twice and self-maintenance.

[@EmadYousefian-p3x]

Hi dears, I love your videos and the way you test the vehicles, would you please made a video about the details and technologies about the different hybrid systems in Toyota , Honda, Ford, BMW, Volvo, twin Koreans and compare them , thanks

[@billurban1581]

Good question. My Volvo has a 41 mile battery (plugged into a normal household outlet overnight) and a 143 hp motor that delivers its maximum torque immediately. It easily propels the car, silently, around town. On the highway the gas engine kicks in for a maximum of 455 hp when needed. (I just did a 400 mile trip over 3 days - plugged in each night - 56 mpg.) 21,000 miles since Nov ‘22, 106 mpg, about $30/mo to charge. My last four-cylinder ICE got 29.7 mpg driven the same way.

[@billurban1581]

Scandinavian plug-in hybrid anecdote: Just did 170 miles to the OC Md. beach in my 455 hp, 523 !b ft, S60 Recharge. Did 3 days around town on the battery. With a full battery, made the 170 mile return trip today. 385 miles total, burned 6 gallons. (The trips to and from were about 20% interstate 65 to 70 mph, the balance 40 to 55 MPH state roads. (The secret: With the route in navigation, the battery is apportioned over the entire trip, where ever advantageous. It’s a secret because no one reads the owners manual.) My 16 gallon gas tank currently holds about 7 gallons. I have not bought gas since Sept 6. Lifetime since Nov, ‘22, 106 mpg. I’m going to pass on an EV.

[@svenhodaka9145]

Impressive. Like anything, it’s important to be at least as smart as the equipment you’re operating.😉

[@djplonghead5403]

Crown Signia vs CX-50 hybrid once you review it.

[@ThomasMaguire-bn9zj]

Dual clutch is DANGEROUS, I learned not to hit the gas to take a turn ,the car would just sit there with traffic coming at me.I could not count on the car moving quickly.

[@edwijaranakulaph.d.2010]

Cayenne E-Hybrid!

[@mrtyrang]

If he plans on getting the Q3, he should set money aside for maintenance and repair costs.

[@Andre-cj3ec]

Stellantis has a joint venture with Chinese company Leapmotor. They'll be assembling cars in Poland

[@DimasFajar-ns4vb]

hybrid engine motorcycle will be amazing sir

[@srdjans1207]

Hey there,why we still wait for new chevrolet equinox 2025 review?please do one

[@chrisa.8175]

$60,000 for a car! No way!!

[@Andre-cj3ec]

Now that the Chinese Model Y are banned in Canada, it has more range, but also a higher price for the base rear wheel drive.

[@dc66588]

Is the new Mazda CX-50 hybrid a plug in or traditional hybrid?

[@calebwany8422]

It uses the Toyota regular hybrid system

[@andreaspencer9813]

It's a traditional hybrid using Toyota's hybrid system.

[@NomenClature-o8s]

What? There aren’t any hybrids from the German? BMW and Mercedes both make hybrids.

[@johnholst]

Really? Do you live in Europe? They don't have them for NA or Asia.

[@NomenClature-o8s]

@@johnholst Many 3, 4 and 5 Series BMW’s are 48 volt mild hybrids right here in the U.S. I can’t count how many mild hybrids are made by Mercedes for the U.S. market.

[@johnholst]

@@NomenClature-o8s Mild hybrids and full hybrids are different.

[@NomenClature-o8s]

@@johnholst Mild hybrids and hybrids operate the same. It’s only to the degree that they store energy and use it to add torque to the powertrain. Now feel free to make something up instead admitting you were wrong.

[@johnholst]

@@NomenClature-o8s They do not operate the same way at all. Might try doing a little research before you make ridiculous claims. :)

[@jaywilliams8608]

Can you review 24 Ford Ranger Raptor? 👍

[@andreaspencer9813]

We actually did already, here is the link kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZnMpamihLqEaqcsi=mL6Xa_oSEl_d1xDH

[@billurban1581]

Reliability - how are you gonna sleep at night? XX out of 100 reliability scores really don’t tell you much. Here’s something we can wrap our brains around: A Lexus will have on average 1.35 reliability issues in the third year of ownership. A Lincoln on average will have 2.5 reliability issues in the third year of ownership, so slightly more than one more issue than a Lexus. One more issue than a Lexus? I’d be sleeping just fine. Much brouhaha about relatively little.

[@RobertOlds.630]

I'm amazed with Chinese autos. When we've bought aftermarket Chinese parts(or shoes, TV, etc) for US built cars, we were disappointed. The prevailing joke is buy 3. Maybe one will last longer than a week. How am I supposed to take non-US autos from China seriously. By the way, we have run into this problem with Chinese parts in other countries too.

[@sandipm1749]

Did Zack said....."Tesla Model Y" that he would choose over Mazda and Mitsibushi?

[@Tonga2]

2025 Mercedes GLC 350E, huge battery!! A PHEV with better distance on EV mode?? I’d love to see a review on this but Price isn’t for everyone🤔😔😔

[@billurban1581]

I can’t speak for other brands, but the 41 mile battery in my Volvo always charges to 50 miles or more, high of 58. Once, starting with a 52 mile charge, the car went 60.2 miles on battery, 40 to 50 mph.

[@gusguthrie]

20,000 km is only 12,400 miles

[@ShadowCaster3214]

Germans do have mild hybrid systems. They might not be available in every region. But at least in the U.S, the Audi A4, A5, A6 all have mild hybrids and so does the 3, 4, and 5 series from BMW. You two are slightly mistaken with that. But they also might not he available in Canada so you’re probably correct too. Great video as always. Love the humor, heart, and info😊

[@andreaspencer9813]

They have a 48 volt mild hybrid but we are talking about a regular hybrid.

[@kdjunkins]

BMW USA website shows numerous hybrids, sedans and SUVs

[@johnholst]

@@kdjunkins I think they were talking about full hybrids; not plug in hybrids. They're very different.

[@ShadowCaster3214]

@@andreaspencer9813 What’s a regular hybrid? I thought the only systems that exist are mild hybrids, plug in hybrids, then fully electric. There is another type of hybrid? That’s crazy and cool.

[@vjmtz]

"their cars just aren't selling as they should" - NO, they are selling EXACTLY as they should. Stellantis are hot garbage, always have been. It's just now that the costs to make their over priced and poorly made and engineered trash cars is now unsustainable in this market. I hope they just go out of business and the other US brands wise up.

[@rromancunard]

🙏🏻 Buick Enclave the new midsize flagship of General Motors. Please if is possible. 😃

[@Reddylion]

Gone are the days here in hindustan we care about german, Japanese whatever, locals are going global high time. EV only for me.

[@melvinjacobs2328]

All Stellantis vehicles are way over priced. That's the main reason they aren't selling. I would imagine it's no different in Europe.

[@Andre-cj3ec]

Stellantis in Europe has more interesting products than in America. Stellantis is killing the old Chrysler group brands through a blend of indifference and incompetence...

[@billurban1581]

@@Andre-cj3ec One bright spot, the Jeep PHEV is the best selling PHEV in the country. There is a lesson there.

[@frankkeel8410]

I believe if u live in the USA and you want to have SS when u retire buy American made vehicles there quality and parts are always available now and in the future

[@knarefyi6793]

A Toyota with leather seats isn’t luxury and can’t be compared to European luxury cars

[@justinandout]

1000%, one is reliably taking you from point A to point B, the other is constantly breaks and costs a fortune to maintain LOL

[@SHBK1980]

Audi Q3 is hardly luxury either - Audi has cheaped-out on lover range models lately

[@anw344k]

I visited some countries in Asia and Africa recently. Impressed with the Chinese EVs and hybrids. Almost half the price of a similar Japanese car and far lower than a German car, there is no way these companies can compete with Chinese. You need to compete in terms of price and innovation. German cars have too much markups and high maintenance, parts costs are out of the roof. In the end, you cannot stop them with tariff controls. There are huge markets in Asia and Africa. Europe producing outdated and expensive brands may lose with low reliability. Japanese have been out of reach for many in the last few years. They also failed to innovate.

[@davidsolloway9349]

like 203 !

[@Revoncheap]

Buying a Seltos was their first mistake.

[@CedroCron]

Zach 20,000km is 12,000 miles not 18,000 miles... LOL

[@bobcabot]

...chique blouse Andrea!

[@RobertOlds.630]

What's that got to do with cars?

[@LouisHansell]

@5:27..isn't that the result of their political pressure?

[@stea2494]

Don’t be worried about lincoln…. FEAR THEM and run away. As for the RX, reliable yes but boring AF, technological dinosaur. I went for a cpo 2022 X5 with extended warranty

[@mervinprone]

As long as it’s under warranty, yes, the BMW is worlds better in almost every way than Lexus. At least for me. But I have to say, I’ve NEVER seen a Lexus RX on the side of the road and I’ve seen a lot of BMWs.

[@stea2494]

@@mervinprone i see a lot of VW and stellantis but BMW… perhaps a really old one as there is a lot of old ones on the road surprisingly.

[@mervinprone]

@@stea2494 I know. I think the problem with BMW owners/leasees is they neglect the maintenance and mistreat the cars. Like any German product it’s designed to be driven according to specifications. The worry with buying a two year old BMW is how that car was treated, since new because they don’t tolerate neglect.

[@stea2494]

@@mervinprone in my case it was 1.5 years old. 15,000 km by the original owner and 17,000 by the dealer as a loaner/shuttle. Assuming the dealer did their part. It was only 32,000 km (19 miles)

[@davidjym]

It never makes sense to me that I am paying a $20-30k more for hybrid / EV premium over gas vehicles and by time the 'saving' evens out it's time for another vehicle 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

[@wyw201]

PHEVs and hybrids are faster than their ICE only models. It’s not just the gas savings, you’re also getting the performance.

[@chrisdiscodude]

Hybrids and EVs are not 20-30k more lol. Hybrids are usually 1-2k more than the ICE equivalent, so it's not much more at all.

[@danhall3450]

@@chrisdiscodude True when if you are referring to MSRP. Not true if dealer is marking them up.

[@chrisdiscodude]

@@danhall3450 I live in Ontario, dealers in my area don't mark up here. You can easily find EVs and hybrids not marked up anymore. Plus lots of EV rebates and discounts.

[@davidjym]

@@chrisdiscodude Hybrids are less expensive than EVs, but still not much savings in real world fuel economy.

[@Noneofyourdambusssiness]

Sorry, but as much as I love electric vehicles, we will never buy a Tesla. I refuse to give Elon Musk's crazy ass any of my hard earned dollars voluntarily.

[@NomenClature-o8s]

Elon Musk has done more to move humanity forward in one year than you will do in your entire life.

[@lickitysplitt]

Keep crying...I'm almost there

[@witsendcottage595]

​@@NomenClature-o8sSpot on!

[@Noneofyourdambusssiness]

@NomenClature-o8s Agree has done a lot. Will not take that away from his crazy ass. And yet he remains a POS that won't get a dollar from me. Opinions are like a$$holes. Everybody has one or is one.

[@justinandout]

LOL, consume more propaganda !

[@beeslandscaping]

I wish toyota buys ram 🐏

[@greggpurviance7252]

CR is pathetic on autos, unless things have changed drastically

[@nickthequick]

Always the same boring cars ...

[@davidjym]

what isn't 'boring' ?

[@calebwany8422]

Lexus NX and Lexus RX never miss on qcc episodes

[@MusicMenacer]

enough with the hybrid and EV talk. Not interested

[@FCM415]

Hybrids make sense for the current world. EVs, not even close. Power grids can’t handle it, and battery tech are decades off. Raw materials are currently monopolized by China.

[@approots]

More hydrid and EV talk. Interested.

[@grahamblacklock4637]

They are the future

[@MusicMenacer]

@@grahamblacklock4637 no, flying cars are the future

[@ztekz]

Watch the next episode and just move on from this if you’re uninterested abt hybrids and EVs

[@Flying-Fox19]

Germans have not invested in hybrids all these years so no. Ppl who buys those cars do not care about gas. They can afford premium fuel when they decided to lease one or buy used ones.

[@2driverpls652]

And we want cars we can DRIVE!

[@wyw201]

Germans do have hybrid models in Europe, just not in NA market. Like you said, since Americans are fine affording premium fuel, why bring the hybrid models over.

[@tommiko8313]

VW have had to stop development off its own p because it sucked so much. They've bought into a Chinese Eevee software company for $2 billion dollars. And have also invested pp into two Chinese Eevee makers

[@Revoncheap]

Stop buying Teslas and fill Elon Musk’s pockets.💸💸💸

[@justinandout]

Found climate change denier!

[@witsendcottage595]

@Revoncheap you jealous much bro

[@justinandout]

@@witsendcottage595 he's just hateful

[@travelteam12345]

EV my rear, maybe in a few years. Still have a long way to go.☹️👀🍁🍁🍁🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦