Quick Tap: Ireland v Australia & Lions XV Debate

[@bonbon1132]

I find Bernard Jackman is the least bias, I find he is very honest with his analyst, he is always looking at the wider picture, I enjoy the way he does not jump on the band wagon like others always do, if he finds a negative with any players ability he will always look at what positives they have. Great episode enjoyed the discussion between all 3 of you

[@mattg6902]

alex goode is an excellent analyst

[@KeithOram-d8q]

Russell at 10 is exceptional. It is not only his vision but his quiet almost unseen plays and his defence is really good.

[@SmcdMcd-d2k]

I don’t really see how he’s exceptional. He’s really really good but he’s more good individually. He doesn’t have the same type of strategy brain as other number tens and that’s really crucial.

[@MACCA0405]

@@SmcdMcd-d2k Thick/Blind?

[@quentinquentin6752]

Crowley and Casey were frankly game changers yesterday. Without them I do not see how Ireland would have broken through for the winning try.

[@markreid2235]

Agreed, I think Bernard has his Leinster glasses on saying Prendergast played very well in the first 50, Kick offs were too long, garryowens were too long and he tended to just catch the but ball and ship it on standing still (reminded me of Ross Byrne), I don't think he attacked the line at all. When Crowley came on he showed more variation. Prendergast is a huge talent but needs time.

[@desmondmccabe8321]

also ringrose made a big difference

[@quinnsa27]

Every other top nation has a running threat at outhalf. Completely agree with Alex that Crowley offers that. Add in the lack of gamebreakers with pace and it makes Crowley even more important. Maybe Prendergast will develop this aspect to his game but he doesn't have it right now.

[@DM-rp9ik]

And half of those teams couldn't even beat Australia

[@eoinh3816]

Prendergarst against Bristol showed a running threat I’ve never seen from Crowley

[@nickuplands]

Lowe and Freeman on the wings? Surely we need some pace on there. Would be the slowest wings in world rugby

[@alanmacleay6213]

Kyle Steyn is probably the most complete winger and should be in with a chance of touring if he comes back well from injury.

[@ChaunceyGardner100]

great podcast. I liked the insights from Goode about jack crowley and hitting the line as first receiver. I notice ross byrne has started doing the same. Prendergast is so exciting though. maybe our 10 for Wales and Italy during 6N? with Crowley as first choice.

[@DavidShort-q1d]

My current Lions squad 1] A.PORTER - P.SCHOEMAN - E.GENGE 2] D.SHEEHAN - R.KELLENHER - D.LAKE 3] Z.FERGUSON - T.FURLONG - W.STUART 4] J.Mc CARTHAY - M.ITOJE - G.GILCHRIST 5] T.BEIRNE - G.MARTIN 6] M.FERGUSON - J.MORGON - 7] J.V.DER.MERWE - S.UNDERHILL 8] C.DORIS - B.EARL 9] T.WILLIAMS - J.GIBSON-PARK - G.WHITE 10] F.RUSSELL - M.SMITH - J.CROWLEY 11] J.LOWE - IF.WABOSO 12] B.AKI - S.TUIPULITO 13] G.RINGROSE - H.JONES 14] O.SLIGHTHOLM - D.V.DER.MERWE 15] H.KEENAN - B.KINGHOLM I would note that for myself i do feel that the Lions should take a 45 man squad to Australia To cover for the inevitable injuries Because it takes TOO LONG TO GET REPLACEMENTS FLOWN OUT AND TO LEARN THE PLAYBOOK ectNow that matches come every week today

[@thingme9941]

Botham?

[@RossoVerdeNero]

It's Fagerson, not Ferguson. And it's Van Der Flier not Merwe at 7. But I get your gist. It'll be interesting to see if England's French-based players get a chance... Willis? Farrell?

[@kieranhanrahan2883]

pretty good shout. Not sure about Stuart in the front row. Wales has 2 quality backrows, Basham and Morgan. Darge from Scotland too. Not sure Aki will travel - age and injury profile. Add another Irish 8 behind Doris (two options). 6Ns will tell a tale, could be a few bolters.

[@tobyslater2011]

12. Robbie Henshaw was MOTM in the Lions v SA Tour, will travel 👍

[@MACCA0405]

good squad except Undehill (Darge), Ear(anyone), Williams,(Anyone) M.Smith, (F.Smith) Waboso (anyone), Slghtholm(anyone)

[@struandickson9082]

I’d love to see this back line in a warm up match to see if it works 9. JGP 10. Russell 11. Duhan 12. Sione 13. Aki 14. Kinghorn 15. Smith

[@ChaunceyGardner100]

excellent lions picks guys. Joe schmidt is doing great stuff with Australia but I fear, when you look at the options we have for the lions, it will be a tough tour for them. Whaabout keenan on wing instead of lowe? He's brilliant with contestables.

[@ThomasRobinson-c8j]

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[@kev63inuk]

I stand alone in my opinion that although I’ll watch and cheer on the Lions it doesn’t compare to supporting your country. Have less passion next year as I fear some of the players representing the Lions won’t sit well with me. Still not convinced that Farrell will pick more Scot’s than English but Ireland should be the main guys against OZ. happy to see a lot of the England lads stay home next year.

[@drumkit96]

James Ryan? He's not even top 2 at Leinster. Love listening to Alex Goode

[@aidanmasterson50]

Speaking about quick tap, why was Prendergast pulled back? Into the corner while Australia in a rare moment were asleep. I think I heard the ref explain that they hadn’t set up, which seems bizarre.

[@MarkDevitt-k3p]

Joe Smith is a wonderful wonderful coach How

[@RossoVerdeNero]

Who?

[@tjobrien8436]

Give me a top quality scum and lineout over razzmatazz atrack. Fundamentals of the game are the most important point. Ireland at present are a mess at lineout and its killing our attack, as so much flows from it

[@ajjs8869]

Great team and a great discussion. As an Irish fan, the non-Irish that must be in the 23 are: Z Fagerson, Itoje, Willis, Tuipulotu, Kinghorn and Freeman

[@kev63inuk]

Great call on Freeman. Though wasted by England on the wing . He always delivers for England and is a clever clever player.

[@EolasColas]

Crowley 💯 % starting OH. If Ireland want to develop its Crowley. If they want to play the same way they have been playing for 10 years it’s Prendergast. Teams have figured it out, they’ve had 10 years.. the loop has been done since 2011, CP is no running threat. IRL need to change 3 years out from WC, stay the same and it’s QF exit at best again

[@DM-rp9ik]

But they keep improving year on year over those 10 years

[@conormarren]

Ryan Baird on the wing! :-)

[@xMontaguex]

Respectfully, this is such leinster bias from Bernard Jackman. Crowley is the number one 10: winning the URC and six nations. He's had two losses at international level, against England at Twickenham and against a SA full test side in the cauldron. Both times there were serious questions about Ireland's go forward ball from the pack. Himself and Casey came on yesterday and rescued the match by putting some zip in it and getting in behind Australia. Prendergast is a fine young player who needs minutes with Leinster at 10... Crowley will develop further at 10 for Ireland, his obviously excelleny physicality, positional sense and game management will all improve too, as he moves from 24 years of age through 28 and 30. As was the case with Smith, Russell, ROG, Sexto, etc. If you are picking lions 10s Crowley is in the mix for sure, with Smith and Russell, Prendergast is not... next time around maybe...

[@guytomlinson4617]

did he not start against NZ?

[@KewKew-do3kq]

Crowley hasn't started for 2 games he is hardly number 1

[@patman142]

Hmm, I detect bias of another hue here. Whoever Farrell deems to be the guy in form will get the nod. Either way, it's a healthy position to be in

[@fergalbannon4614]

Bollox. As it stands, no Irish ten is going to Australia.

[@xMontaguex]

Pardon me, yes he did. I meant before the Autumn internationals, and before the question of Prendergast starting or not... ​@@guytomlinson4617

[@mauricemunoz242]

There are players that just have that X factor… and you can’t escape that …!!! Prandergas is that sort of guy… he’ll make mistakes, he’ll drive you nuts sometimes but you will never get enough of him… you will never be able to get your eyes of him during a match…!!!

[@tobyslater2011]

Picking NORTHAMPTON’s Tommy Freeman > Ollie Sleightholme is mad. Statistically, Sleightholme scored more for England, in less appearances.

[@colinthompson7404]

Picking either of them is mad. They 've barely played international rugby and have done little to impress enough to jump ahead of the likes of Lowe, Hansen, VDM, Graham, Steyn and Dyer.

[@tobyslater2011]

7. Jack Willis from Toulouse More ‘possible’ call-ups en France: > H. Arundell, Kyle Sinckler, Lewis Ludlum, O Farrell

[@MACCA0405]

other than Willis who is in form?

[@tobyslater2011]

@ Toulon are 3rd/4th with Bayonne: Lewis Ludlum and Kyle Sinckler got a chance

[@patrickbrennan911]

13:27 we are not a home nation

[@SVAgxlxxi]

sadly it’s going to be ireland & friends

[@lizzyhanahoe4197]

Don’t be sad.

[@Camcolito]

Picking proven winners rather than a bunch of chancers from Britain sounds like a shrewd move.

[@SmcdMcd-d2k]

How’s that sadly ? Ireland have been the most consistent in NH. But there is a 6n tournament to go. Who knows who will end up winning

[@seanofarrell8896]

For me, as a leinster fan, i think Jack Crawley as 1 and frawley 2 sam prendagast 3 my opinion unless frawley and prendagast get more chances at 10 it would be different

[@DM-rp9ik]

That's all well and good but Farrell looks to see him as number 1

[@RossoVerdeNero]

​​@@DM-rp9ikNot sure Farrell sees it like that. It's equally possible that he played Prendergast against a much stronger team than Fiji, because it was a relatively low-risk but still tough game, and he was giving him minutes in the tank. Face it, he hasn't always had that chance for Leinster.

[@DM-rp9ik]

@RossoVerdeNero we've seen it plenty of times. Farrell doesn't care where you are in the peaking order at the Provinces. Joe McCarthy JGP Frawley amd Osborne where all behind someone in Leinster. Same with Sam he's made his own call

[@RossoVerdeNero]

​@DM-rp9ik you might be right, but then again, so might I!

[@rosscooper7778]

Lads no Ringrose is a joke, best 13 in the 6 nations

[@DM-rp9ik]

Consistently one of the best in the world. Good thing Farrell knows it anyway

[@gavmercer]

A lot depends on the make up of the coaches, look at how many Scot’s made the last one based on all the Scottish coaches. Farrell is big on picking players that have performed for him in the past, he is English and he’s the Irish coach so unlikely I think to pick as many Scots as you guys did, 6 in the starting lineup based on one big win against Australia, can’t see it, if they win the six nations that could change, but they won’t

[@SmcdMcd-d2k]

First of all, just a technicality here Farrell is technically not English. He’s English nationality but both of his parents are Irish. His surname is Farrell 😂 and his wife is irish .. and I don’t think he’s gonna pick it off players that he likes just because of the country that’s so ridiculous

[@gavmercer]

⁠@@SmcdMcd-d2k here certainly sounds more Irish when you refer to him as O’Farrell 😂

[@SmcdMcd-d2k]

@@gavmercer oops! Typo.. but point still stands !

[@gavmercer]

@@SmcdMcd-d2k look at the last few lions tours, the fact is the nationality of the coaches sways the 50 50 calls, previous tour had a major Scottish influence as a result the most Scots ever traveled, tour before that was mainly Welsh and they outnumbered the other countries, it’s not ridiculous, it’s even understandable, if Farrell ultimately has to make a call on a player where it’s 50 50, how could he not go with what he knows? The point I was making was, unless he picks a coaching ticket of Scottish coaches, there won’t be a Scottish voice in the room to fight their corner

[@SmcdMcd-d2k]

@ OK I think you need to realise Andy Farrell has the final say who makes that team no one else

[@EolasColas]

Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 cannot beat SA or NZ these Irish fellas have done it home and away in recent years

[@aleccastro4761]

Uh.. it's against Aus. Different team, different challenges.

[@colinthompson7404]

Scotland barely ever play NZ, and are offered less games against SA than the other 6 nations sides too.

[@SmcdMcd-d2k]

@@aleccastro4761 you’re missing the point. It’s southern hemisphere

[@wayneharry8696]

Alex Goode needs to chill a bit. Way too defencive and happy to chuck other people under the bus. I've seen this more than once.

[@KewKew-do3kq]

Funny when jackman was challenged on Sams lack of speed and running threat he turned it back onto the wingers and power of the pack. They cant admit the game has moved forward from sextons time. Farrell even brought sexton in to coach sam. Kiwis were laughing at the irish because rugby is a athletic game first. Will Shelton plays best against Leinster, will Jordan always scores against Ireland and Aki is Irelands most important player.

[@Hateeveryone4cku]

Well I’m a Ulster man but couldn’t see Johnny sexton or Crowley beat the 10sec 100 meter. SP is 21 this lad if he keeps going this way by the WC this won’t even be a conversation. Crowley just ok let’s be honest. Sam’s played 2 games and was very good and can take that pressure. Sam can kick out of hand like ROG and get the team in line like Johnny. This kid when he bulks up he there for 10 yrs. saved 2 tries.

[@lizzyhanahoe4197]

Ali has been brilliant for Ireland but no way is he our most important player.

[@Camcolito]

The game doesn't move on every couple of years, it's cyclical. Johnny Sexton is not suddenly obsolete. Prendergast at the moment is no Sexton.

[@dazza9859]

Lions XV on form will probably be the best 10 Scottish players and five English players.

[@daithipol]

Suits me. I hate seeing irish players playing for Britain.... dress it up anyway you want , and stick 'and Ireland ' onto the title it's still the motherland v the colonies. It's dated and time to quit. 15 welsh with with gatland coach for all I care. Btw. S otland won't get within an asses roar of Ireland in the 6N. England will struggle too.

[@johndevoy5792]

🤣

[@michaelmoynihan9591]

Strange that when irish players have beaten Scottish last ten times.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@michaelmoynihan9591]

Stick to table tennis kid about your level.😂😂😂😂

[@dazza4345]

​@@michaelmoynihan9591im baiting the South Africans😮

[@DM-rp9ik]

All teams in a strange place except for Scotland, who did fine but 3/4 wins still leaves its questions on out and out quality. Ireland has wins, but not performances. England have some decent performances but not the wins. Wales Not much to say, and I'm sure not much anyone Welsh would want to be said.

[@SmcdMcd-d2k]

Hold on a second though Ireland had 3 out of four wins also and they lost to the all Blacks which as rugby goes is a fairly common occurrence. Scotland respectfully were playing teams like Uruguay and Canada they weren’t tested as much as the other teams who were playing Australia, South Africa Argentina, etc

[@considerthis7712]

Lions XV is irrelevant at this time. Consider post 6 nations.

[@DM-rp9ik]

Never made huge sense to pick off the 6 nations. Wales won loads of 6 nations but could buy a win over Australia or New Zealand at the time. Hence the Lions suffered

[@EolasColas]

What have Scotland won??

[@Moretosh]

So just pick everything from the past ..lie down.

[@aleccastro4761]

Their most recent game against the opposition the Lions will play against.. and they did it better than Ireland & England.

[@Camcolito]

@@Moretosh They haven't won anything in the present either 😂

[@colinthompson7404]

Half the team just won the URC

[@SmcdMcd-d2k]

@@aleccastro4761 oh come off at will your basing the whole of Scotland rugby history on one game one entire game?

[@thingme9941]

The Lions tour does nothing for rugby anymore. They live in 5 star hotels hovering around the food bar, with an entourage of hangers on in the way of child psychologists, camera operators, dive pass coaches, flag bearers, locksmiths, fiscal treasurers, PR experts, florists, head brain counsellors, actuaries, travelling referees, infinitum. You get the idea. Cynical yes but how many Lions will be ambassadors for promoting the game in Tasmania or Adelaide? Playing against University Teams? Or Combined Services? Visiting schools in Mt Isa or Alice Springs? Promoting a rugby career while studying for a university degree? Part-time servicemen or members of Action Aid or the Salvation Army? Not likely. Welcome to the professional World of monetary returns and self-entitlement.

[@MarkDevitt-k3p]

Well said

[@Moretosh]

Moral high ground??

[@Kenny-zn6dl]

Agree with alot of your comment, if Scotland can beat Australia comfortably and Ireland less comfortably, what is the point of 4 nations challenging them??? As you said 5 star accommodation, team bonding between 4 team's who will kick the shite out of each other in February and March, an almighty piss up before they return and it will probably all cost in the region of a million quid for the entire trip, better ways to spend that amount of money 😳

[@thingme9941]

@@Moretosh No. It's a fact. In 1991 John Dawes and John Spencer visited Auckland Grammar School, the day before the last test and spoke to the boys at the school. In 2017 John Spencer returned to that school and spoke again to a new generation of kids. John Spencer during that tour was the only Lion to travel to Te Kuiti attending the inauguration of a statue to New Zealand's Sir Colin Meads, the farmer, part-time rugby player and Territorial National serviceman. How many of the Lions will leave a lingering legacy such as Spencer and Meads?

[@RossoVerdeNero]

​​@@thingme9941The Lions tours in the past lasted for months on end and afforded the players more time and space than they are currently given. Harking back to the good old days is pure nostalgia and is comparing apples with pears. As for The Lions bringing nothing to rugby anymore, if you were able to ask recent players selected for the Lions, how many of them would say, "Well, I could take it or leave it... to be honest, I'd rather have had a few weeks off at the end of the season..." 😂 And the thousands of Lions fans from all four nations that pay thousands or even tens of thousands to be there on the other side of the world, bonding together as one incredible fan base... what does that tell you?

[@KeithOram-d8q]

Lions should come from Scotland and Ireland I cannot see anyone from England or Wales really making the team.

[@EolasColas]

Plenty from Eng.. Itoje, Smith, Curry, Stuart all in with a shout

[@MACCA0405]

@@EolasColas I think Itoje and Smith( Smith only if Kinghorn doesn't make the 23) will make the 23. not sure if England have any starters at the moment. Irish pack with Z Fagerson and maybe M Fageron Scottish backs with GP and maybe Lowe and Keenan. Kinghorn covers wing and 10 and could get the shout. CS outside chance and Morgan from Wales. .

[@RossoVerdeNero]

No English in the team? You haven't been paying attention, my friend.

[@SmcdMcd-d2k]

There will be lots from England. I’m not sure why you think Scott and are going to get all the numbers for the lines tour… they played Teams like Uruguay and Canada and this year it’s not really a test of rugby.. they finished fourth in the sixth nations no do I think Scotland will do well in this year? Six nations in 2025? Yeah I do I think so

[@vp0029]

9. Gibson-Park 10. Russell 11. Van Der Merwe 12. Tuipulotu 13. Freeman 14. Lowe 15. Kinghorn

[@RossoVerdeNero]

Has Lowe played at 14?

[@SmcdMcd-d2k]

Van der is a one trick pony.. it’s interesting. He is only one player for Ireland on that whole back row that doesn’t make sense considering Dave the ones that have been more successful.