Quick Tip: AR-15 Gas Block Alignment

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Brownells, Inc.

Brownells, Inc.

Күн бұрын

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@armedfarm3429
@armedfarm3429 Жыл бұрын
I use a piece of gas line & slide it on the end where it fits in to the bolt carrier. Then put a finger over the end of the barrel. Leave the chamber open. Leave the gas block snug but not tight, now just blow on the plastic gas line until you hear the most air come through the chamber & tighten down the gas block. Takes about a minute. Works like a charm!
@StraightOutaFleaBottom
@StraightOutaFleaBottom 2 ай бұрын
This is how I did them until I finally bought the “universal” dimple tool. This technique still works fine.
@alant5757
@alant5757 4 жыл бұрын
The first AR I did.... I bought a gas block jig but then I saw someone do it a better way (in my opinion). They simply put the gas block in position on the barrel and then used block to mark “where to drill”. Then removed the gas block and used a drill press and drill press vise to hold the barrel in place. The gently “dimple” the barrel. And I really like Brownells suggestion to only dimple the screw location over gas port.
@CalebSavant
@CalebSavant 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, that is the exact method I use!
@griff6985
@griff6985 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love a video about barrel dimpling.
@Da1AboveA11
@Da1AboveA11 3 жыл бұрын
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@robbarron4066
@robbarron4066 Жыл бұрын
Another great vid, Caleb. Really appreciate the no nonsense approach to these vids.
@thomasrouh2258
@thomasrouh2258 Жыл бұрын
Caleb.....You make the best videos.....Thanks for your service.....You're a true American patriot......
@abolishtheatfandrepealthen6014
@abolishtheatfandrepealthen6014 4 жыл бұрын
I learned the hard way. Two builds had alignment issues at the start
@jqmachgunner2577
@jqmachgunner2577 Жыл бұрын
You are right ONLY IF the barrel maker AND the gas block maker places the gas port holes in the same distances from the shoulder (for the barrel) and the rear face (of the gas block). I have encountered where the both had different distances used for their gas holes. For me, the best solution is to use a dimpling jig which indexes the dimple by the use of the bolt that sets into and centered in the gas port which then allows you to center to dimple the barrel. That way, you can be sure that the gas block hole is directly on top of the gas port in the barrel. Also, once the dimple is set, then the second set screw can be removed and the hole's position marked on the barrel. Then you only need to align the dimple jig over that mark to properly dimple the barrel for the second dimple. This takes ALL and any guesswork out and ensures a properly installed gas block.
@velocity550
@velocity550 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, good explanation. Can you show us how to align the sight base on an A2 gas block...?
@velocity550
@velocity550 4 жыл бұрын
@@gg9xfrx4m30 I've made a jig to align gas block and a drill guide that works well...I was just looking for how a gunsmith would do it.
@LuvBorderCollies
@LuvBorderCollies 4 жыл бұрын
Send it to ADCO they're the AR barrel wizards.
@askmatt7283
@askmatt7283 4 жыл бұрын
Parallax Tactical (when they were still in business) used to sell their gas blocks with the peep hole at the top. Just place the gas block on the barrel and drop a roll punch through the peep hole into the gas port on the barrel and tighten the set screws. Perfect alignment every time. Takes all the guess work out of gas block alignment. This should be a standard feature for all gas blocks. I would love it if a jig was developed that enabled the user to drill this peep hole into a gas block that didn’t already offer this feature.
@chipsterb4946
@chipsterb4946 3 жыл бұрын
Matt - Brownells sells little plastic sticks for this purpose, but I’ve also seen someone use a short piece of uncooked spaghetti.
@Techcensorshipbot
@Techcensorshipbot 3 жыл бұрын
I did something unconventional and it worked out for me. I just plugged the end of the barrel and blew through it and the dimple on my barrel was dead on. You can move the block and know pretty quick if it’s off or not. Set it and retest.
@pcpolice7937
@pcpolice7937 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely - This method works Great!
@machinis
@machinis Жыл бұрын
Great tip. I'm trying this right now. Thanks
@edgewise7889
@edgewise7889 4 жыл бұрын
I have a pistol that kicks like a mule no room for an adjustable gas block I simply misaligned it a little bit to tame it down a bit 🤠👍
@relevation0
@relevation0 4 жыл бұрын
Ive used that trick also
@CrippledEagle
@CrippledEagle 3 жыл бұрын
When I put together an AR, I put the gas tube into the gas block and then slide everything on the barrel and into the receiver. I almost tighten the screws then put a length of rubber hose over the gas tube inside of the receiver. I position the gas block close to the position I think it should go and then I blow through the hose and listen to the air escaping and by the resistance I feel blowing through it I find the best place to tighten the screws. I put Rocksett on the screws one at a time and tighten each. I had a gas block and rifle that just wouldn’t work until I did this.
@mohammedcohen
@mohammedcohen 4 жыл бұрын
...I feel much better now, having seen this...I used a straightedge to align the gas port to the block..back it up to the journal in the barrel...
@johnviera3884
@johnviera3884 3 жыл бұрын
Dimpling is designed for regular old screws. But with the new fangled “cupped screws”, does dimpling actually work against you? Cupped screws are designed for a round flat surface.
@josh2711
@josh2711 2 жыл бұрын
Good question. I don’t dimple for them… but I’m not a pro
@tomahawk5827
@tomahawk5827 4 жыл бұрын
When’s the sideburns alignment video coming out? 🤣
@aireforever
@aireforever 4 жыл бұрын
I would watch that video!!
@certainpointofview3860
@certainpointofview3860 Жыл бұрын
You use your earlobes
@strugglebusbonsai
@strugglebusbonsai 4 жыл бұрын
Is it safe to cut the "ears" off of an A2 gas block sight if you stay above the gas port?
@chris.3711
@chris.3711 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. People do it all the time.
@CalebSavant
@CalebSavant 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, go for it.
@Russianmafia10
@Russianmafia10 4 жыл бұрын
Yup, you can cut off the front sight and turn it into a low profile gas block. Just be careful not to take off too much
@strugglebusbonsai
@strugglebusbonsai 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the responses! The hacksaw and Dremel are going into action this evening.
@MyLonewolf25
@MyLonewolf25 3 жыл бұрын
Yup People did it all the time before low profile gas blocks were a common thing
@davidfarley6244
@davidfarley6244 4 жыл бұрын
Gas port Genie at Brownells is also very helpful.
@brownells
@brownells 4 жыл бұрын
Also the nickname of Caleb, shown in this video😎
@davidfarley6244
@davidfarley6244 4 жыл бұрын
@@brownells Agree!
@twistinprops604
@twistinprops604 4 жыл бұрын
I always use a spaghetti noodle to align my blocks. Works every time!
@mr.sunshine1444
@mr.sunshine1444 4 жыл бұрын
How do you use it?
@mr.sunshine1444
@mr.sunshine1444 4 жыл бұрын
@@gg9xfrx4m30 I see... I'll try that next time
@DECKLOOT
@DECKLOOT 4 жыл бұрын
@@gg9xfrx4m30 I was going to use a toothpick that I scored down so it would break easier, but will definitely try this out instead. Clever!
@LuvBorderCollies
@LuvBorderCollies 4 жыл бұрын
Great tip.
@muffemod
@muffemod 4 жыл бұрын
A graphite mechanical pencil "lead" works just as well.
@sicsempertyrannis8159
@sicsempertyrannis8159 4 жыл бұрын
A nice 3-4 piece jig set to clamp on, align and dimple would be handy
@MAGAMAN
@MAGAMAN 4 жыл бұрын
Installing a gas block is stupid easy. If you need a jig to do it, maybe you should have someone else do it for you.
@scoobk3
@scoobk3 4 жыл бұрын
@Sic Semper Tyrannis Check out BRD Engineering. They have the jigs you seek.
@aslob9321
@aslob9321 4 жыл бұрын
This was a very instructional video,thanks a lot!
@brownells
@brownells 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@dannie3117
@dannie3117 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this simple. Great video
@timothyking3171
@timothyking3171 4 жыл бұрын
One problem I’ve run across lately with home builders is the dimple is too deep damaging barrel making it unsafe
@billgriner3754
@billgriner3754 3 жыл бұрын
That's crazy, I sometimes get nervous when I see the drilled portion for the A2 sight retention pin. That thing looks deep. It's hard to imagine someone drilling the dimple even to that depth.
@metalcrow88
@metalcrow88 Жыл бұрын
New guy getting into the AR thank you for this info.
@InexorWoW
@InexorWoW 4 жыл бұрын
I havent dimpled my barrel mostly because its a pencil barrel and ive got less room to mess it up lol. My handguard fully covers my gas system so im not real worried about it misaligning over time.
@hazcat640
@hazcat640 4 жыл бұрын
Caleb, Thanks! This was very timely as I am about to do my first upper build. I have watched YT vids on how to do this with straw and even spaghetti (no kidding) but not one of them pointed out that there is a dimple on the barrel that lines up with the port. So simple!
@Don_Neto_Jr.
@Don_Neto_Jr. 4 жыл бұрын
Great info & vid. Short & to the point. Thank you Sir
@CBL138
@CBL138 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Appreciate you giving much needed clarity to the subject.
@brownells
@brownells 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@jalee6587
@jalee6587 3 жыл бұрын
This video was perfect. Was worried because I put my gas block all the way to the shoulder.
@TheOnlyJuanPonce
@TheOnlyJuanPonce 3 жыл бұрын
Very good information. Thanks
@craig1523
@craig1523 4 жыл бұрын
What would happen if the barrel nut is torqued, either not torqued at all, not torqued enough or over torqued?
@CalebSavant
@CalebSavant 4 жыл бұрын
Over torqued can effect accuracy, under torqued can come loose and effect accuracy as well as cause a failure to lock.
@chris.3711
@chris.3711 4 жыл бұрын
You can strip threads by over torquing. Supposedly you can shoot it off if not torqued enough, but I don't know how anyone could accomplish that.
@craig1523
@craig1523 4 жыл бұрын
@@CalebSavant thank you for your reply
@craig1523
@craig1523 4 жыл бұрын
@@chris.3711 thank you for replying
@oscarostolaza1
@oscarostolaza1 4 жыл бұрын
I usually plug the chamber with an empty shell casing then blow through the barrel to estimate the amount of air coming out of the gas port valve and to maximize the air flow slowly move the gas port until you feel the best air flow coming out of the gas port valve then secure the gas valve with the set screws and your done!😉
@noretreat151
@noretreat151 4 жыл бұрын
oscar ostolaza..... Real men use a Live Cartridge LOL
@timothyking3171
@timothyking3171 4 жыл бұрын
That one of i ways to check bolt carrier function safely , use shop air pressure (130-150 psi) with rubber tip blowgun before installing flash hider if it cycles yr good to take to range n test fire
@gunfisher4661
@gunfisher4661 4 жыл бұрын
I believe Brownells offers a plastic alignment kit that takes the guess work out of it.
@culture-nature-mobility7867
@culture-nature-mobility7867 4 жыл бұрын
What about relation between barrel harmonics and (different ways of) installing the gas block?
@7xr1e20ln8
@7xr1e20ln8 4 жыл бұрын
They are directly proportional. With K being the constant.
@thaddeuslincoln5558
@thaddeuslincoln5558 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this.
@PeekEngineering
@PeekEngineering 7 күн бұрын
Great video!
@fakecharlie4030
@fakecharlie4030 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. Thank you!
@mikebelcher6692
@mikebelcher6692 9 ай бұрын
Which direction should the split in the roll pin face that goes thru the gas tube?
@glorybound7599
@glorybound7599 3 жыл бұрын
On one of my builds I was not able to install the roll pin completely through the second hole before the pin began to flatten out. I do have a solid installation and the weapon operates properly. Do you see any problems with leaving it as is or should the pin be replaced? It’s a stainless steel gas block and I’m not confident of the alignment of the two roll pin holes.
@pcpolice7937
@pcpolice7937 2 жыл бұрын
I use a small nail with a snug fit as a slave pin and the roll pin pushes it out as it is being driven in
@5jjt
@5jjt 2 жыл бұрын
Why does this gas block have a hole at the top that is totally see through? Is that for demonstration purposes?
@brownells
@brownells 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, this is a cutaway gasblock.
@Lucastrujillo59
@Lucastrujillo59 4 жыл бұрын
very informative thank you
@thomasprout9298
@thomasprout9298 3 жыл бұрын
How entirely necessary is dimpling? Is it something some good thread locker could do in its place?
@thomasprout9298
@thomasprout9298 3 жыл бұрын
Never mind, I found your video on “where to use lock tight and yall answered it there.
@nebaker4
@nebaker4 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 5 inch barrel. I was wondering what's the best gas block and tube to get to build a 556 pistol
@elgallodesinaloa5219
@elgallodesinaloa5219 3 жыл бұрын
The pin hole aligns on the gas block and tube but the gas port does not seem to be aligned . I don’t even see the whole. Would that be an issue?
@CramcrumBrewbringer
@CramcrumBrewbringer 2 жыл бұрын
Should I use loctite in the set screws? And blue or red? Thanks!
@terry5008
@terry5008 4 жыл бұрын
I have never seen a gas block port that large. Granted, I haven't seen a lot of them (mostly adjustable), but the ones I have seen are only a tiny bit larger than the port in the barrel. I have a Superlative Arms adjustable gas block (Part# SABO-DI-750CM) on my AR and the small port on the block does not align with the barrel (Daniel Defense 07-078-09136-018) when the block is up against the journal shoulder. So, do your own homework and break out the caliper. And if you're using a clamp-on block or a barrel that isn't dimpled, the Gas Block Genie comes in handy.
@roykiefer7713
@roykiefer7713 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation, thank you.
@brownells
@brownells 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@chriswhorror6658
@chriswhorror6658 3 жыл бұрын
If my barrel does come barrel dimple does it matter? Can I still use any low profile gas block on a mid length. Ballistic advantage barrel 16inch
@valdanilow4466
@valdanilow4466 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have to dimple?
@CalebSavant
@CalebSavant 4 жыл бұрын
I highly recommend it.
@johnz6066
@johnz6066 4 жыл бұрын
@@CalebSavant what if the barrel manufacture, say Faxon for example, does not recommend it?
@LuvBorderCollies
@LuvBorderCollies 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnz6066 Wonder what the reason is? CYA against dopes with drill presses? A clamp style is far better than the dimple.
@johnz6066
@johnz6066 4 жыл бұрын
@@LuvBorderCollies haha that too. In Faxon's case it might have something to do with the salt bath nitride finish on their barrels
@CalebSavant
@CalebSavant 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnz6066 The nitriding is extremely hard and will eat any drill bit that is not carbide. Faxon does not say "Don't do it", they just don't offer it on production barrels.
@helmsplitter0233
@helmsplitter0233 3 жыл бұрын
But how do i ensure its aligned from right to left instead of forward and back? Is eye ball alignment good enough?
@jwilsonhandmadeknives2760
@jwilsonhandmadeknives2760 3 жыл бұрын
mark the barrel with a pencil through the center of the gas port. Mark the gas block through the center, meaning looking at it like you are looking through the barrel hole. Mark the top of the hole with a vertical line. Now put the gas block on and align the two pencil marks. A good way to double check yourself is to put a foam ear plug in the chamber or plug it with your finger if you can. Then blow into the muzzle while you gently adjust the gas block. You can easily hear when you get maximum air flow through the gas port / gas block. When it's misaligned you can easily hear the difference.
@geneapeveto2559
@geneapeveto2559 3 жыл бұрын
great videos
@ScientistPrepper
@ScientistPrepper 3 жыл бұрын
Good video.
@sparrowdynamics
@sparrowdynamics 2 жыл бұрын
Helpful video!
@douglass69
@douglass69 4 жыл бұрын
Show and explain how to dimple the block.
@cmbn.y.7681
@cmbn.y.7681 4 жыл бұрын
Just thinking the same thing.
@itzjoeyppl
@itzjoeyppl 4 жыл бұрын
They sell a jig for about $40 to do it yourself. I have one and have done it, it’s simple
@CalebSavant
@CalebSavant 4 жыл бұрын
Noted, that's a good future video.
@cmbn.y.7681
@cmbn.y.7681 4 жыл бұрын
@@CalebSavant Lowers are no problem for me, but I've heard too many horror stories about poorly built uppers. I have all the parts for an upper in my living room, and I keep putting it off for that reason. Do some people use rockset in place of dimpling, or do you need to do both..?
@gunsandcommissions
@gunsandcommissions 4 жыл бұрын
@@cmbn.y.7681 Dimpling does offer a bit of mechanical grip, but it's mostly there to align the gas block. With regard to the set screws, they should either have rocksett (high temp, not waterproof) or red loctite (good to about 300 degrees, waterproof) on them.
@s.o.f.fpatriotsforlife414
@s.o.f.fpatriotsforlife414 Жыл бұрын
I have an ar that's under gassed and I've tried everything I'm so close to CUTTING the buffer spring
@thegreatandpowerfulwill202
@thegreatandpowerfulwill202 2 жыл бұрын
Real quick question I've bilt my first ar and the bolt wont cycle corectly as in the bolts not coming far enough back im assuming I didnt Aline my gasblock or tube corectly besides that anyone else think it could be something else im open to opinions
@innercityprepper
@innercityprepper 3 жыл бұрын
It blows my mind that this is an issue for people, dimple or not. This is just about the simplest part of an upper build. Oh well, to each his own.
@CarimboHanky
@CarimboHanky 3 жыл бұрын
when building my ar the gas block was the only thing i didnt feel confident enough to do it myself haha
@sergeantsnacks
@sergeantsnacks 4 жыл бұрын
Took my first AR upper build to the gunsmith. I was not 100% with aligning the gas block. My handguard rail is not aligned with the upper rail and the bolt won't hold open on the last round... 😑😒
@jakeweston8616
@jakeweston8616 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't a pinned gas block stronger?
@colsoncustoms8994
@colsoncustoms8994 4 жыл бұрын
You can dimple the first set screw, attach the gas block with the second screw removed, then make a dimple pilot hole where the second screw goes, pull the gas block and dimple it the rest of the way with the correct bit. Essentially using the gas block itself to gauge where the second dimple needs to go.
@Bosstupapa
@Bosstupapa 3 жыл бұрын
Quick question, I build at ar but leaks a bit for the gas block roll pin is that normal??? Anyone is having this problem, the ar is running excellent just i don't like the small gas leak🤔🤔😬🤷‍♂️
@jwilsonhandmadeknives2760
@jwilsonhandmadeknives2760 3 жыл бұрын
Yes this is normal on a new build. Carbon from firing will eventually collect in the gaps and seal it up.
@heinrichfuhrmeister1244
@heinrichfuhrmeister1244 3 жыл бұрын
I just dont trust dimpling. Why not just drill and pin?
@mrtomlinson637
@mrtomlinson637 2 жыл бұрын
Bro your haircut is fucking awesome lol
@jakep111
@jakep111 4 жыл бұрын
Can undercharging when reloading really cause a detonation or damage?
@Russianmafia10
@Russianmafia10 4 жыл бұрын
Yes if the powder is under the level of the primer, the primer can ignite the entire top layer of the powder along the whole case and blow the cardridge up since it's burning way too fast. Instead of burning slowly rear to front.
@FitnFire
@FitnFire 4 жыл бұрын
I spy that AT4 👀
@brownells
@brownells 4 жыл бұрын
We have no idea what youre talking about...
@ChrisG1392
@ChrisG1392 2 жыл бұрын
Why would they not just standardize it? Machine one side flat to interface with a flat side of the barrel and there would never be an alignment issue. Poor design choice here.
@leeroller193
@leeroller193 22 күн бұрын
This is for the people that couldn’t accept or process the same evidence shown with a borescope from inside the barrel bore in another video Caleb did.😂
@viewatyourownrisk
@viewatyourownrisk 4 жыл бұрын
The info about not butting the gas block up to the shoulder is something I've heard from literally a half dozen reputable sources. Your demonstration makes it obvious this is bad advice. That's more than slightly shocking, and also slightly annoying as my first build had nothing but problems and I wonder if that was maybe the case. When aligning a gas block, would it be okay to use the rear most screw hole as an alignment check prior to install?
@j.p.1576
@j.p.1576 4 жыл бұрын
If you offset the gas block only enough for a standard handguard cap, you will still get full port opening into the gas block. The centers of the hole will not be aligned, but that does not matter. It is a matter of pressure differential.
@viewatyourownrisk
@viewatyourownrisk 4 жыл бұрын
@@j.p.1576 Is that why the opening on the gas block is so large, is that it's engineered to allow for those caps? I'm not sure what the gap was on the upper I assembled, it was a low pro gas block under an alg 15" free float rail. After the initial build it had all sorts of issues with cycling and being under gassed was the only thing we could trace it back to.
@brucecamparmament3728
@brucecamparmament3728 4 жыл бұрын
What he fails to mention is that it depends on the gas block used. Some are drilled to spec taking the thickness of the handguard cap into consideration. Some are not. Always measure, never guess.
@viewatyourownrisk
@viewatyourownrisk 4 жыл бұрын
@@brucecamparmament3728 My thought on this would be to turn the gas block 180 degrees and observe the gas port through the set screw hole directly underneath the gas port. That'll let a person visually confirm alignment, and then push back or pull out as necessary. Am I thinking about that right?
@brucecamparmament3728
@brucecamparmament3728 4 жыл бұрын
@@viewatyourownrisk Not exactly. You are assuming the gas port and the set screw hole are the same distance from the shoulder of the barrel. They "might" be.. They "should" be, but thats still assuming. The only way to really know is to measure the distance of the barrel gas port (center) from the shoulder, and then the distance of the gas block gas port (center) from the back of the gas block. If these numbers are the same then you are good to butt the gas block to the shoulder. Of not, space accordingly. I dont use set screws on any of my builds, I always pin or taper pin, so measuring using this method also works on gas blocks without set screw holes.
@HanzGruber1982
@HanzGruber1982 5 ай бұрын
Bro you have the most old school hair...
@ynmamflm
@ynmamflm 4 жыл бұрын
hey Brownells, Where can I get a hammer for a 2018 colt cobra?
@likuidrano6778
@likuidrano6778 3 жыл бұрын
I took his advice and my gasblock blew off....🙄
@darylbentley7240
@darylbentley7240 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you screwed up🤷🏻‍♂️
@jeffszakacs7508
@jeffszakacs7508 Жыл бұрын
If colt Socom heavy barrel which is not called hammer forged but chrome lined are you soon the centurion one that I have that I have to shoot some 77 otm and see if it’s a sub minute grouping because the regular colt Socom Power always half minutes I’d assume this one is better and will last longer especially with an a heavy duty gas tube. And it be nice if we could have full auto lower receivers like the geissele gas pedal
@cliffkirby8570
@cliffkirby8570 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you guys offering a technical support phone number
@jamespayne4459
@jamespayne4459 3 жыл бұрын
Pin to win, everything else is sub optimal.
@littlerascals6529
@littlerascals6529 3 жыл бұрын
You got a pretty mouth boy
@montanaspring7176
@montanaspring7176 4 жыл бұрын
damn im fat.. wonder what this dude eats
@LuvBorderCollies
@LuvBorderCollies 4 жыл бұрын
Not enough! Brownells should give him a raise or buy him some groceries.
@CalebSavant
@CalebSavant 4 жыл бұрын
"Insert yo momma joke here"
@hgerrard2745
@hgerrard2745 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video bud
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