Quick Tip: SIG Pistol Sight System Explained

[@bladeboysfv5646]

I am new to Sig's and you guys explained everything so easily that in just over 4 minutes I had a perfect understanding of Sig's sight system!! For some reason all the pictures everywhere online show the same size sights for #6 & #8 Fronts so I was getting frustrated because I didn't know which to replace my Super Tall ones with, but now I do! So Good Lookin Out!

[@scoobyrick513rd]

My 365 shoots excessively low. Been reading the forums and many are saying it's because of combat hold and all sigs are sighted this way, but that makes no sense as my 226 is just fine. The dots on my back sights on the 365 are practically useless

[@KSMO1031]

Out of the box my 365 shoots 4 inches high and 2 inches to the left at 10 yards off a bench rest. I'm not sure where to even start.

[@adamcolvin2742]

​@beepsy1269 mine is shooting low and left. They might just be inconsistent and really need some dialing in

[@Civtex]

How did you fix it?

[@scoobyrick513rd]

@@Civtex never have on mine.. I just focus on the front sight and pretend the back is blacked out for the most part.... Hoping to switch out with speed sights as soon as I can and see how those work out

[@RoronoaZorosHaki]

P365 isn’t a combat sight…..

[@jb6027]

This is a VERY instructional video. You've answered questions I've wondered about the Sig sight numbering system for decades. Thank you!

[@Mr1bigsexy]

You’ve got to be kidding that didn’t teach me anything. I still don’t know what type of sites to put on my 365.

[@bikeracerdude]

I wish Sig would switch from their current "Combat Sight Picture" (front sight dot covers intended bullet POI) to the "Center Hold/Half and Half sight picture" where the front sight dot cuts in half the intended bullet POI. The former obscures the target more than the latter.

[@derekmorrow1040]

bikeracerdude +1 !!!

[@dodgersfnshepard8673]

Mission dictates gun choice. If your going for say ccw instead of target it's more practical to have this the combat sight system especially for those who aren't gun people. Also if you have the $ for Sig you probably have the funds to tweak your sights to a custom/preferred set up. With that said I mostly agree with you. Not a huge fan of my poi covered but for a small ccw like my p365 xl and most average joes, it'll due the job just fine. Especially for female customers that just want simple protection

[@derekmorrow1040]

@@dodgersfnshepard8673 Because women aren't gun savvy? WOW. If that isn't some sexist bullshit, I don't know what is.

[@davidroth9845]

@@derekmorrow1040 cry me a river

[@williamhall2386]

I didn't learn about this form of sight picture until this year and had the gun for over 15.... Also doesn't help I stuck a laser and there and looks like someone dropped my gun on the frame and the rear sight has me shooting off center a 'sig'nificant amount now -_-

[@capt.mike73ahoy14]

Good to know. Thanks for the informative presentations gentlemen!

[@brownells]

Thank you!

[@Jrhoney]

Excellent info, gents. SIG certainly didn't make it easy to figure out. Caleb, relax. You're doing fine.

[@KingLeeThe2nd]

This makes so much sense. I had a p365 10 rounder optics ready, curved trigger, keep your irons, and I was hitting spot on up to 20 yard out and in. I was shocked how great I shot with it. But I sold it. Got another one a few weeks ago and I’m shooting hella low. I just looked and I have 6 front and 8 rear. Makes me wonder what my numbers were on the original one I had

[@rayb9053]

Very helpful! Thanks so much! Just bought my first Sig and this really explained the sight system clearly...

[@wde1978]

I love this channel. You gentlemen are so knowledgeable when it comes to firearms. I always feel like I learned something after watching one of your videos. Many people have had to pay good money to learn some of the content you guys provide. Thanks for making these very informative videos. By any chance do you happen to know what sight pusher tool is required for the SP2022? I have heard people say that there is a particular pusher that has to be used. Is this true?

[@steven3379]

I was just wondering about this as a new shooter. Thanks much!

[@markpinther9296]

I wonder if Sig could have possibly made this any more complicated?

[@dsg325]

Of course.

[@rubiconoutdoors3492]

They could add numbers AND Letters

[@herberar]

You can always suggest different colours and flavors too!!!!

[@roykiefer7713]

Gentlemen - Thanks for this excellent information.

[@goodboyringo9716]

That is the very reason I like adjustable sights. Seems to be manufacture satisfy their self not the buyer , we just deal with it or not.

[@brownells]

Indeed

[@aldurrant7354]

Somehow from factory I got 8 front sight and a 6 rear on a 365. Shoots low. Not sure what to do.

[@ArmyMatt79]

GREAT Information!!! I'll have to check my Sigs and see what numbers is on them.

[@mickyashey9818]

From SIG website, they only have #6 & #8 for p320 In general, the higher the front size number (i.e. 6), the lower the height of the sight. For the rear sight, the higher the number (i.e. 8), the higher the height of the sight. EXAMPLE: If you wanted a high front sight post and a high rear sight, you could choose to get a #6 front sight / #8 rear sight.

[@zh3401]

The sight size front to rear can differ due to caliber within a single model. Case in point my Sig Sauer P226's in 9MM and 357 Sig do indeed have #8 sights front and rear. However, my P226 in 40 S&W has #6 front and #8 rear from the factory. This is verified by TruGlo who made many of the Sig sights and by a discussion with Sig Tech line. My P226R SCT has fiber optic front (from the factory) which do not have a # designation, only TG-H3 the manufacturers designation.

[@dodgersfnshepard8673]

Thanks guys. I just contacted Sig 2 days ago over this

[@TheKatosmith]

What a nice father-son moment...

[@alejandrolian7101]

A tip : watch movies on Flixzone. Been using it for watching all kinds of movies recently.

[@finns23653]

Very useful video, glad you thought to make it

[@Raider1836]

Cool info! Had to pick my MK25 off the nightstand and check it. Both 8s, and shoots better than me!

[@dwightbrown2808]

have you ever tried to budge a SIG 220 sight front or rear? I'm afraid of ruining the Tritium vials in the night sights. They must have used red LocTite!

[@fredviljoen7029]

I just bought a P320 and have tried 3 different kinds of ammunition in it, I can't get any consistency. What can I do?

[@mikejarrells431]

What distance are handguns zeroed at the factory (25 yards)?

[@bradgates4230]

Clear as mud

[@montanaspring7176]

very professional good work gentlemen

[@brownells]

Thank you!

[@BlaisePadilla]

You can’t just tell me how to adjust the sight?! 😂

[@Magneticitist]

This makes sense. My XMacro seemed to have a tolerable combat hold that took me some time getting used to when I'm typically shooting 5 or 6 other guns at the range that all use center holds. Then I started shooting an XTen and it seemed like I had to really aim high at the same distance. Guess I'll try a #8 up front since I wanted to change those dull Xrays out for something brighter anyway.

[@very7962]

What number are the rear and front sights on the x macro? Are you just changing the front one?

[@Magneticitist]

@@very7962 I have 6 on the front an 8 in the back on mine. That's how my X10 is set up also. I'm still looking for good replacements that'll change me to a center hold but also be in a fiber front sight that's way smaller.

[@roccofilippi1418]

Both my P365 and P365 XL were shooting low. I emailed sig about getting them set up to shoot at 40 feet. This is the response I received. Thank you for contacting Sig Sauer customer service. Our guns are defensive ones in almost all cases, and so they are sighted for point of aim to exactly match point of impact at 15’, the median distance where a defensive situation will arise. In my head I thought this would make my stock set up shoot high at 40 feet. Weird that they shoot low. I will be getting the Romeo Zero when it comes out and sighting it in at 40 feet. Do you think that is a good all around distance?

[@lykwo]

If you shoot someone at 40 ft, you're going to have a REALLY hard time justifying to a jury that it was defensive.

[@JamesPiccone]

My P365XL was shooting super low no matter what I did. Ended up getting a #8 TFO front sight & it helped. Also it's a better sight than the X-ray3.

[@zeuszerp9376]

@@JamesPiccone james its been 6 months since this reply. How is the #8 front sight treating you? Is your rear a #8? I shot my XL and was shooting straight just about an inch lower than bullseye. I was not holding a "combat hold" i will try that hold tomorrow

[@moosemilk8956]

@@zeuszerp9376 just shot my XL today and I’m consistently about 2” or 3” low at 30ft. I’d also like to know if anyone has had luck with different sights.

[@zeuszerp9376]

@@moosemilk8956 first range session I had the same issue. 2nd range trip NO PROBLEM I'm hitting bullseye 🎯 My problem was I did not know that SIG made all their stock sights to be shot with a "combat hold" On Google type in SIG combat hold then go to images. Ignoring the dots align the top of the sights blade covering the bullseye completely you might think you are to high because we cannot see the bullseye anymore but thats when you hit bullseye. At first I didnt like that after seeing the Google image on proper sight picture...then again a 2 legged predator is much bigger than a bullseye so you will still see your target. I hope I made sense.

[@Fulltang65]

My 320 X compact has a number eight front and rear and it shoots way low at 10 yards and I don’t see any other site with a higher number on their website

[@philyamascunt7518]

I just bought an 320X Compact and mine also has the number 8 sight both front and back. At 10 yards my pistol shot high for 5 shots and I stopped shooting with a WTF moment. I fired 4 more rounds and all 4 going to the spot that my initial 5 shots landed so another WTF moment. I then looked real good at the sights and found my problem. I was "Flatlining" the front and rear sight like I almost always do and since the back sights have no color in daylight my flatlining had the dot on the front sight riding higher than the dots on the rear sight. My next shots were with the dots all lined up and it was great. With the dots all lined up the top edge of the front sight sits a little lower than the top edge of the rear sight and by flatlining the two top edges I shot high. I will have to shoot more often to make sure that I don't flatline the Sig. More rounds down the barrel is never a bad thing, well it wasn't before Scandemic 2020 was launched but thank God I learned to reload at 8 years old and started loading my own ammo a long time ago at age 14

[@flaquitalore]

@@philyamascunt7518 does this mean that you can't do equal light equal sight? i have a new p320x and it doesnt whatever it wants essentially. I can shoot pretty well and my smith and wesson went were I wanted it to go. I am so confused, not sure where to aim with this one to adjust

[@rubiconoutdoors3492]

I really hate how sharp the front sight is. Tears my pants up.

[@bambo5255]

Really informative! Thanks for the info!!

[@brownells]

Thank you!

[@KillerBudda1418]

Well my 320xcompact has 8 back and 8 front and shooting low way low

[@tjsworld2338]

jason spears mine does as well. Did you find a #10 sight

[@annagarnica9447]

I just got my first Sig P226 MK-25. I'm not a super experienced shooter and I definitely don't understand the finer details of guns as well as many out there, but I am trying to learn. My gun came with an 8 front sight and 6 rear sight. When I was trying to line my front and rear sights up perfectly flush and equal, all the shots were shooting super low. My husband had the same issue and he's a much better shot. (When we shot aiming the front sight higher than the rear, it evened out the shots more.) However, in the examples in this video they said it would have a 6 on front and 8 on rear, but mine is opposite. Is this okay? Should I just play with it more and learn how to shoot using EITHER the front or rear sight alone rather than trying to line them up? Should I change out one or both of my sights? Obviously I'm going to try to do more research of my own to get this figured out but I will please take any help I can get! Thank you!

[@Andoz777]

I have the same MK 25. At 10 yards I'm hitting about 2-3 inches lower than my aiming point but at 25 yards it's hitting at 0-1 inch below the point of aim. I believe SIG sights these guns in at the factory to be zeroed at 25-30 yards.

[@RobM93784]

Sig doesn’t always install the correct sights at their factory, shocking I know. I sent in my P226 for their night sights and it came back shooting way low compared to the non-tritium sights that were on it at first.

[@Sqwince23]

@@Rick_SF Same.

[@Roberta_Esposito]

@@Sqwince23 +1

[@Roberta_Esposito]

@@Rick_SF +1

[@Roberta_Esposito]

+1

[@JamesPiccone]

+1, installed #8 TFO front sight.

[@speedracer3967]

What about the 239? I have one, although the rear sight is a single dot. imo, I find these two dot systems to be way more accurate, at least for me. Seeing how I'm cross eye dominant. could you maybe do a comparison video on the two systems, and outline the pros and cons from both? Thank you, and excellent video by the way.

[@garron6775]

Helpful thank you.

[@dsg325]

Putting a HiViz # 8 on my 210. It’s getting too hard to see those black front sights anymore.

[@steven3379]

Supposedly my Sig p320x full size is sighted for a 2" group at 30', I have a #6 front and #8 rear, I really need to practice my trigger pull and recoil management, or just go back to 21' target.... I need to stop watching these guys hitting steel at 50 and 75 yds..... I really get discouraged...

[@JWbabyshark]

Can you redo this video with the new machine slide for the p320s slide they came out with versus stamp steel slide.

[@dracoorian3029]

How do I move them left and right cub my laser bore light when you put into the chamber says my sights are dead center yet my barrel points to the right

[@prodigalsoul7111]

How do you move them? I can't get them to budge!

[@davewyman9846]

I have a sig p226 navy, front sight # 8, rear is #6 from factory. Shoots 4 "- 5" low ..😖

[@Jaster832]

My 226 came with a 6 front 8 rear and the front sight still covered the POI, which they call "Combat" sight picture, and I wanted more of a pumpkin on a post type, so I had a #9 rear installed and it's right where I want it. You would probably be well served going to an 8 or 9 rear.

[@davewyman9846]

@@Jaster832 thanks for your input , think I'll switch it out for a # 8

[@Em_Dee_Aitch]

So if I want to have a higher or lower co-witnessing sight picture with my optic, I just get both sights in either a higher or lower number?

[@UziNineMillomeetah]

Lol almost as confusing as S&W's old auto numbering system.

[@christiangammons9934]

I want to put em on my Mossberg m2c2 and am not sure why numbers for point of impact please respond cuz they do fit this pistol

[@ej7447]

Just checked a 228 with night sights, Trijicon, which are marked 94...no Sig number on sights. Any thoughts?

[@thespetrumgalaxy8149]

So your telling me i have to buy more sights. I just bought my first sig p360x and its shooting 4” low at 10 yards. With 9mm 115grain bullets

[@Farminginthecity]

Mine is doing the same thing 4 inches low and it has 8 and 8 on both sites.

[@nicktrue7915]

I can shoot my tokarev way more accurately than my 600 dollar M18 and I thought maybe I was losing my marbles. Turns out it might be the way I am aiming? Or the sights? Jeez this is too confusing for a gun that I paid so much for. When it leaves the factory, I should be able to take it to the range and not have to worry about this crap.

[@airportbumdad]

I’m curious was this problem ever solved? Just shot my M18 today and it hits way low to the left. What made it worse is I also had a new shadow systems that I was trying and it can put multiple rounds through the same holes at the point of aim. I don’t get it.

[@girlin501s]

I have a sig sauer p238 and it hits very high

[@Shadowdancer777]

So confusing. So For a p226. I just want to hit exactly where I aim. Which sight height should I get?

[@EoWKen]

stormrider777 That depends entirely on the distance of the target you are expecting to shoot at. No sight will ever be correct at all distances since gravity affects the trajectory of the bullet.

[@--RSL--]

There are a lot of ppl here commenting, but dont actually know what threy are talking about. ccw and most handguns are NOT precision. They mostly use combat unless changed out by the buyer for precision sights. combat is extremely easy to use, cover your target and press trigger...hit. dont try and use combat sights for precision, dummies.

[@radac123]

What does SIG recommended using on the front sight to keep it in place? I have a new P320 x compact and the front sight slides around.

[@Godsfollower57]

I have a p365 that does the same. It starts to shift to the right when shooting.

[@nexusofice9135]

Red thread locker works great. Just happy a bunch around the dovetail. Then wait about 10 seconds for it to creap in the cracks. Then soak up the extra with a cotton swab.

[@hambone950]

so how do i get the stupid combat sights switched over to center hold / half? #6 front and #8 rear?

[@formerpilgrim4934]

So what options do we have with the M17? Also, let’s say I mount a Deltapoint Pro, and use the Leupold rear sight that fits into the mount, what height sight should be used in the front for a 25 yard zero?

[@CalebSavant]

Great question, the rear sight is proprietary so adjustment will need to be done on the front sight. Moving on the the M17 with a mounted Deltapoint Pro, the Sig front sights do not currently go high enough in elevation to properly zero that combination. Dawson Precision manufactures a sight that is high enough. When ordering, Leupold recommends measuring from top of slide to the bottom of the optic window and then add .080" to determine proper front sight height.

[@richard66754]

Sig did about a half ass job zeroing the windage on my new P229.

[@MechInvent]

So my fn reflex shoots 4 inches too low... All makes sense now. They lied and said nothing was wrong. Edit: i have #8 front #6 rear at the moment

[@S1L3NTG4M3R]

THANKS

[@florenciofontecillaphdmba.290]

As an engineer with international experience in several countries, I believe that european engineering is much more complicated than american, specially french and german technology, which is why some people say that is the reason why they never win the wars. American engineering is much more simpler, much effective, more intuitive, cheaper, and reliable. I own a Sig Sauer pistol, and it design is OK, but more complicated than any american-designed pistol. Complicated machines always complicate the mind of the user...not good in a war...

[@akirkendall9]

Im so confused. My p320 sc has a #8 front and a #6 in the rear. Wtf???

[@Farminginthecity]

Mine came from the factory with an 8 and 8 and it shoots 4 inches low at center mass. This video is worthless

[@tjsworld2338]

Do you sell front sights for the p365xl?my pistol has#6 front sights and I’m shooting about 2 to 4” low

[@woopoo71]

Mine shoots 4 inches low at 10 yards. NOT because of the shooter, but because my sights are off. Good luck getting through to Sig. Hour-plus-long waits on the phone and no e-mail. Very disappointed in SIG. Not only that, but their XL sight plate is LocTighted in and you cannot remove the screws with the hex wrench they supply without stripping the heads. VERY DISAPPOINTED.

[@RockyMountainWest13]

I have the p365 and it hits ~3” high. It’s kinda frustrating

[@JamesPiccone]

Had the same problem, brought the P.O.I. up with #8TFO front sight.

[@CooniesCajunCooking]

How do you adjust sights on p365xl I'm off to the right

[@brownells]

Reach out to our gunsmith team at 800-741-0015 and they can walk you through the process :)

[@shanejones578]

What’s about 6-8” left every shot…

[@Makingnewnamesisdumb]

My p229 has a point of impact lower than I'd like, I just found that the front sight is a 6 and the rear sight is an 8. Could that be my problem? Do they normally come with matching numbers? Should I get an 8 front sight to raise the point of impact?

[@angrygio76]

I think so. I have a #8 front and rear on my p320.

[@6speedsti241]

makes no cents

[@GunsHarleysUSA]

What number comes standard on a Sig P220 Elite .45 ACP , my rear sight has an 8 and the front looks like it is a 0, does this sound correct or not ?

[@chrisyanik9984]

It’s probably a 6

[@AS-vk4kf]

Are sigs the only ones that have their own language?

[@Farminginthecity]

The first lie is they are not tuned in. I have a Sig p320 in 45 and it shoots low for me to hit even close to center I have to aim at the top of the head on the target. It came with an 8 front site and 8 rear site and I can't find anything showing if Sig makes a higher number site to move my impact rounds 4 inches higher or if the sights are adjustable. Video is worthless.

[@brownells]

Or it's just your gun... not our video.

[@Farminginthecity]

@@brownells If you actually do your homework and go onto the Sig website they actually say they do not tune their pistols. Your video is about Sig firearms and their sight number system and again if you do your homework their is a chart on Sig that says what number front and rear sights are supposed to come on the pistol from the factory. So on my pistol they put the wrong front sight on it. It should of been a 6 instead of an 8 and I have reached out to Sig to get the matter fixed and waiting for their reply but if they are that sloppy it will be the first and last Sig pistol I ever buy. So maybe in your video you might want to add that chart or information before confusing ppl with just numbers.

[@derekmorrow1040]

Too bad they quit making the #9s.

[@BrizzyMo]

That is exactly what I was looking for...:'(

[@americanmilitiaman88]

My P320 X full has a 6 front and 8 rear. Dead center. At 60 yards it was hitting a little left i think that was me though getting used to a new gun

[@GusPluss]

my sights seem off from the factory? I went to the range shot 4 guns, my new sig p365xl didn't even get close to the target where as the other guns were all in a tight group close to the target. how can i fix this? I have to get new sights from the factory??

[@sheikfrankicechibu1827]

music is too BAD

[@earlyblackmz]

🤯

[@ke78487]

The young guy didn't answer no questions

[@jeboteya5489]

HEY GUYS THERES ANOTHER TYPE OF ADJUSTMENT, ITS CALLED "WINDAGE". HOW DO YOU ADJUST THAT??

[@thatoneguy-1290]

Move your rear sight a little in the direction you want the bullet to go.

[@troopersdad9362]

This Elvis is 100% NRA approved. What a joke of a video. That says it all..... Adjustment is ALL due to YOUR OWN COMFORT. Remember their comfort will not be yours are you right eye or Left eye??? Huge Adjustment for that comparison