Quick Warlock Destruction Hellcaller DPS Guide! | PVE Mythic+ | Wow The War Within | Patch 11.0.2

[@0xJADEx]

Love this guide! Thanks so much!

[@jaopreto-wlock]

wellcome! Thank you for watching!

[@chaune6928]

Gonna try this out today!

[@jaopreto-wlock]

na verdade eu irei fazer um guia mais atualizado, por conta que teremos uma atualização boa para Bruxos no dia 29. Se quiser esperar eu fazer o upload, eu respondo aqui no seu comentário :)

[@1337penguinman]

Honestly I'm finding cataclysm better simply for getting the wither stacks going.

[@jaopreto-wlock]

in fact it is, applying wither manually is good only for low pack of adds. This video is old and the build is outdate, i got new content with new guide that includes Cataclysm.

[@KruganakaTeun]

Cool UI, very clean. Did you made it yourself or do you have any links for addons that your using?

[@jaopreto-wlock]

Heyy thanks. Yeah i've made them myselft, but i kept it simple. The skill bar are default from Wow; The soul shards icon, HP Bar and Icons are Weak Aura; And the nameplates are ElvUI.

[@UBIGOR1]

​@@jaopreto-wlock Hello. Can you give me a link?)

[@jaopreto-wlock]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jqmvamh8hNKEo5Y Hey, there is a link if u want to know more

[@Miss_Willow]

tested your talent build out, ive noticed that wither runs out of duration on about 50% of targets, even with its stacking nature. new stacks dont appear to refresh duration. but something else is refreshing the duration of the others. perhaps one hero talent generator refreshes duration, but the others dont? anyways, i gained about 15% total dps by swapping to cataclysm and using it on cooldown to refresh duration. if im doing something wrong please let me know, i manually applied wither then did my normal aoe rotation. re applying them manually vs just using cataclysm was roughly a 15% total dps difference on 5 targets. the more targets the more dps difference im sure. edit: im pretty sure its just channel demonfire not being good enough to fully keep uptime on 5 targets. maybe single target it could, but at that point you arent using rain of fire or cataclysm. for aoe cataclysm seems better.

[@jaopreto-wlock]

Hey buddy, how is going? :D I think I understand the simulation you did, and I'm going to assume that you used DamageMeter to track the damage you caused, so let's go. There are 3 important points, I'll start with the concept of DPS: 1 - DPS is different from DOT (Damage Over Time), where DPS is the damage you caused within a certain time interval (and DamageMeter shows it in the UI like this) and DOT is the damage your character is able to cause per second. When you start the fight with Cataclysm (which is what I understood from your comment in one of your simulations) your damage starts to be tracked by DamageMeter at the same time that all targets are already with Wither, so the DPS will be higher because the time interval is shorter (since you didn't waste time using Wither manually on all targets), but the damage per second you will cause will not necessarily be higher. If you want to test it on the 5 training targets in the cities, try looking at the "comparison" tab in the DamageMeter panel, try to make a combat duration of 30 seconds and compare the two tables (one with cataclysm and the other without). If I wasn't very clear, you can try looking here: www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/1ng7pj/dps_vs_dot/#:~:text=In%20MMO%20lingo%2C%20they're,DPS%20on%20a%20Titan%20fight. 2 - I don't think you need to worry too much about the duration of Winther on targets, because in M+ if you're not one of those who likes to go on a M+6 with 580 IL xDD The duration of the lots with groups of small and large mobs will hardly exceed 30 seconds, unless the other DPS in your group are having a lot of trouble dealing damage. 3 - The concept of playing with Inferno and not Cataclysm is not because of the Wither but because of Blackened Soul because of its stacks. If you take into account the number of mobs, there are some dungeons that really have a larger number of mobs at the entrances, for example Necrotic Wake or The Stonevault, in which case Cataclysm can act better because of the AOE. But at least 80% of your time in M+ in general will be spent dealing with a maximum of 5/6 targets, so if you are worried about manually applying Wither to multiple targets, don't worry :) Recalling a point I made in the video: While the fight doesn't start while your tank is grouping the mobs, try to apply Wither to all possible targets (Remember that this way your DPS will be different because your tracking will start earlier and with little damage, since it will only be the Wither DoT in the first 4 or 5 seconds, but your damage during the fight will be much higher). If you wait to apply Wither only after your tank has finished grouping the mobs, then in the end your damage will be lower, because you will need to waste time applying Wither while your other DPS are already harassing them. In your dungeons, try doing the following: Test with Cataclysm vs Inferno (applying Wither manually), and observe the overall damage at the end of each dungeon, because then DPS is not taken into account, but only the overall damage you managed to cause. Look at the "trash" records and analyze which caused more damage in practice, if you have any questions, leave them here in the comments so we can know which was better :)

[@Miss_Willow]

@@jaopreto-wlock ill test them out in real scenarios tomorrow and post the results of my overall at the end of dungeons.

[@Miss_Willow]

@@jaopreto-wlock Mist of tirna scythe for all dungeons: OVERALL DPS. all 4-5 keystones. no aug evokers in any groups. using shadowburn+cdf build. 613ilvl(not proper stat weights, low crit) dungeons done with 2 cost rain of fire: 5 Results: 1.02m / 932k / 830k(died on final boss) / 954k / 986k dungeons done with cataclysm: 5 Results: 967k / 1.09m / 991k / 898k / 1.04m overall the results are pretty similar. use whatever style you prefer. i still personally prefer cataclysm because it feels better for "snap aoe" during boss mechanics, or pulls with lots of mobs.

[@jaopreto-wlock]

​@@Miss_Willow interesting, I would like to see a sample of how you performed the rotation, I personally can't do the same damage with cataclysm, using inferno I can always do much more haha.

[@Miss_Willow]

@@jaopreto-wlock its just the normal rotation. apply wither, build shards, spend shards on rain of fire untill you have 3 or below monsters left, finish off with shadowburn spam, use cooldowns reasonably on cooldown. i used oil, flask and tempered potions. sometimes if there are 3 or fewer enemies up on relatively high health and my cataclysm was down, i would manually apply wither.

[@kaz7742]

is this still current?

[@jaopreto-wlock]

Nop, i've made some changes on my build of Destro hellcaler PVE. I will make another video showing the new one

[@michaelandreasen993]

neat simple guide, just missing the build link :D

[@jaopreto-wlock]

Hehe i've made a updated one. Check this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pWaYdZRujrKjd68

[@MacacoAlch]

Uai

[@jaopreto-wlock]

Uaaaiii!

[@EternalJunim]

Kitei na hora que vi que não usa cataclysm, horrível

[@jaopreto-wlock]

De fato, para keys pequenas a ausencia de cataclismo pode ser ate bom. Mas em High keys cataclismo é necessário. Da uma olhada nos recentes vídeos de destruction hellcaller para m+, pois eu ja fiz modificações na gameplay. A build desse video ta bem desatualizada, eu acredito ter videos mais recentes onde eu ja alterei essa build.