Quiet Your Tesla Model Y! The ONLY video that covers everything!

[@Yanksrule100]

Just wanted to give you my thanks. Picked up a MYLR, my family had no issues but the ear pressure was killing me. I did the vinyl tubing and the hatch stop adjustment, and the issue resolved entirely. I literally couldn’t be more thankful. So so so appreciate this video!

[@meshfreak]

Same here. The vinyl tubing made a huge difference.

[@ronsta]

I did the vinyl tubing of 5/16th OD on my 2023 MY and it got rid of 80% of the booming/buffeting sound. Amazing.

[@FriedChairs]

I just got a new model Y and I don’t notice any buffeting. Is it something that develops over time or has Tesla recently addressed it or is it more on the luck side? My model Y seems a bit quieter than our 1 year old model 3.

[@ronsta]

@@FriedChairs if you don't notice it you either 1) don't have it at all and they fixed it, or 2) don't hear it, which you should be grateful for.

[@andyfeimsternfei8408]

Your video is perfect at 2x speed!

[@AB-hz5mm]

This was a hilariously useful tip.

[@WhiskyMonsta]

Ha, agreed

[@denysarcuri1213]

@@WhiskyMonsta I don't really know. I fell asleep at about 2:30. How far did you guys make it?

[@bojiam4818]

🙏

[@rishabhsharma-wy2jw]

Hahaha completely true .. I almost slept .. very very verbose!

[@ronsta]

We owe Matthew a huge THANK YOU for making this video. Great advice. He’s just a good person. Thank you.

[@vinayk8779]

OMG, 5/16” OD vinyl tube fixed 80% of the issue!! This is the best sub $10 fix for your tesla booming noise issues! Just do it, took like 10mins for me to install with 2 pieces only! Thank you for making this video! Making me feel good about my 70k purchase 😅

[@JamesOliverLindsey]

Is there any reason not to do this on all the door gaskets too?

[@vinayk8779]

The tube basically prevents the trunk from bouncing up and down when the car goes over uneven surface. The tube makes the gasket firm and prevents vertical travel of the trunk. On the other hand, all the doors have gaskets mainly for sound proofing. The doors don’t move up or down when the car goes over pot holes since there is no vertical movement possible as hinges are placed to open doors only. So, if you put a tube in the door gaskets, it may just change the door closing sound and may also reduce some tire noise (not buffeting noise). You will have to experiment with it.

[@JamesOliverLindsey]

@Vinay K I'll try it. Hopefully I can find this comment and let you know

[@NitroZakis]

Did you find out? I’d like to reduce any kind of noise: wind, tire, structural.

[@NEIGHBORHOODADULTHEA]

Thank you for doing al the hard work and sharing it with everyone. After we did not get any assistance from Tesla service, I inserted the Vinyl tubing in the trunk seal and it dramatically reduced ear pressure. Thanks to you, I don't get that discomfort and unpleasant experience while driving MY. Thank you, thank you, thank you!

[@mattderusha]

I just bought a 2023 model Y long range, and my wife and I could instantly feel this abnormal pressure in our ears that you mentioned, after the first few drives. I was pretty frustrated by it, but this vinyl tubing gasket fix helped tremendously, and is no longer a nagging issue for us. Thanks for the video! I wanted to mention, that I used 5/16" tubing along with some WD-40, and I was able to get it wrapped all the way around the trunk in one long section!

[@georgeborrelli3134]

Your 5/16" tubing, is that OD, or ID? Thank you

[@mattderusha]

@@georgeborrelli3134 od

[@darrens7603]

Thank you for making this video. As an audiophile I really needed this. I only did following three and it made world of difference: 1. door seals (reduces wind and road noise) 2. adjust hatch stops with envelope trick - reduced boominess 3. Butyl sheets and absorbing foam in outer sheet metal above wheel well. - this made the BIGGEST difference in low frequency hum. Car feels so quiet now. for #3 just knock on metal, wherever feels hollow, add butyl sheets. no need to cover entire wheel well

[@silviuguseila2552]

for #3, "outer sheets" you mean on the exterior of the car, not the interior like shown in this video? thanks

[@darrens7603]

@@silviuguseila2552 sorry I meant the interior of the outermost sheet metal. Thin sheet metals always create resonance

[@robertiantria5222]

Hi Mathew. I just did the vinyl tube procedure, I was tempted to take off the seal, insert the vinyl tube and reinstall the seal. Instead, what I did was to fish through some weed whacker line through the hole at the top of the hatch seal all the way around, and then pull through the vinyl tube with the weed whacker line. I prepped the seal with lots of silicone lubricant and also sprayed it into the vinyl tube itself as it went in the seal with the weed whacker line. Later this weekend I will be trying to figure out my 3D printed stops :) A big thank you for this advice and all the work you have done to come up with a solution.

[@ilovecoffee1409]

My pleasure hope it works out well for you!

[@romanwowk4269]

Very thorough. Thanks for cutting through all the BS out there and showing what actually provides improvement!

[@danielsiffredi8403]

O man , o man. Thanks for keeping my mental health in check. That noise when the car is flexing in rough roads was driving me nuts. You’ve made me very happy, $9 bucks of rubbing and I can say now I’m extremely happy with my Tesla model Y. I hope Tesla takes notes of these little things to improve ride comfort. Not having that sound makes using the car so much better. Thanks again for taking the time sharing your knowledge with the community. Peace out ✌️

[@justinemi.2744]

What’s your model y version and when and where was it manufactured?

[@danielsiffredi8403]

@@justinemi.2744 after testing things out , I actually changed the whole rubber seal and the new version did the job perfectly well. MY Performance 2022 - made in Fremont

Did the 5/16 tube mod today, only I started from the bottom and sprayed teflon lube from the top and let run down each side. I was able to fill the whole seal with one piece and only a little tear which crazy glue quickly took care of. Also ran the 2 weather strips along each side of the hatch like yours. What a difference on that low frequency rumble that I hated so much. I don't even feel it anymore or hear it. Thank you for this!..... I will try the db meter on the same stretch I've been testing to see. Only subtracted .5 dbm with the extra door seals. As for the hood baffle I flipped it and filled it with dense foam. Did 4 runs, all averaged at 66dbm, that's 2 dbs lower than after the door seal mod. Love it more now.

[@ilovecoffee1409]

Lovely to hear! No pun intended.

[@robertiantria5222]

Can you provide a link for the 2 weather strips please ?

[@ilovecoffee1409]

@@robertiantria5222 Just any "D" style weather stripping like this one www.amazon.com/Weather-Stripping-Self-Adhesive-Backing-Soundproof/dp/B08CRK6R8Z/

[@robertiantria5222]

A very big thank you

[@showman1438]

I think you should consider making more videos. You seem like a really smart guy with good problem-solving skills.

[@RyoshiKuroOka]

I attempted adjusting the stops (several times) per the video. No improvement. I installed the 3/8 inch vinyl tubing in the liftgate seal. Reduced the noise to a tolerable level. But lifgate gaps were significant and it would not close normally (had to be pushed down). Replaced the 3/8 inch tubing with 5/16 inch tubing. Acceptable gaps and liftgate now closes normally, but noise returned. FINAL SOLUTION: replaced the 5/16 inch tubing in the lower sections (below the tail lights) of the seals with 3/8 inch tubing. left the 5/16 inch tubing in the upper sections. Noise is reduced to a tollerable level, gaps are good, liftgate closes normally. In fact the botton edge of the lifgate now lines up even better with the rear bumper cover. Installing the vinyl tubing turned out to be quite simple, about a 30 minute task. Easy to remove and try different combinations. Noise seems to be generated mostly from the lower portion of the liftgate, which makes sense since the hinges at the top are rigid. (you note in the video that you found some tubing, possibly factory installed, in the lower section of the liftgate as well) I also found the "wedges" you describe in the video in the Tesla parts manual. They are: "MY LIFTGATE WEDGE DAMPER", part numbers 1570138-00-C, 1570139-00-C, (L & R) and 1655164-00-A, 1655165-00-A (L & R). Not sure what the two different sets are. The parts do not appear on the diagram but are listed in the descriptions below the diagram - implies they were added after the diagram was made or that they are "optional". (the "LIFTGATE BUMP STOP - PLASTIC NUT" that goes over the upper bump stops also does not appear in the diagram. Since the wedges are meant to be installed on the lower portion of the liftgate that also implies that the noise in coming primarily from the lower section. I plan to order the wedges and try them out. Also lowered the tire pressure from 42 to 38. Again some improvement in noise level. Plan to install Dynamat in rear area, rear wheel wells, and rear quarter panel next.

[@evhelphub]

Tried this method, hatch will close, but the unlock is significantly louder, I think...maybe needs more feet adjustment?

[@peteroffpist1621]

Huge difference between our M3 2020 and our brand new late 2023 Berlin M Y. Problem solved at factory. Did most of these hacks on my M3 but did not much difference. Good analysis.

[@stevek9854]

I got my MY on Feb 14th 2023. same problem. I wish Tesla recall all MY and fix it at Service Center. And other rattling noises from the rear seat and headrests when extended on rough roads but not on the freeway. I really appreciate what you have done here for other Tesla Model Y owners. What a great job. I just found out that rear seat headrest rattling is foxed but rear seat where it folds, that is the source of metal hitting another metal on littlebit rough roads. I will take my car to Tesla Service again. Hopely, this will be the last trip to Tesla Service Center. Oh, one service center already sent me estimTe that this fix could cost more than $1000 and my car has now about 3000 miles, 3 months old.

[@Dasha-bv8di]

Thank you for asking this video. We just picked up our Y and immediately driving it home felt the ear pain. We thought we were losing our minds just like you said, thankfully there were two of us in the car. We will absolutely try your fixes. How irresponsible of Tesla, because if adult ears are hurting imagine how sensitive dog or child ears are.

[@GaugingGadgets]

Did it fix it for you?

[@jimparr01Utube]

Ah! Remove the hatch gasket from the body. Then fitting the tube becomes HEAPS easier. Then re-fit the gasket. Job hopefully done. So great to hear that TESLA is responsive to folks such as yourself (maybe).

[@ilovecoffee1409]

Seriously? You removed the whole gasket? Nice work lol. I just couldn't have imagined it being easier, but certainly interesting!

[@robertiantria5222]

Any suggestions/tips on how to do this ? Any tools required ? Do u need to get new double sided tape to reapply?

[@KateUrchin]

@@robertiantria5222 just pull it out. Use hammer to install it

[@AnthonyWHerr]

Spot on!!! I thought I was crazy with the ear pressure.

[@bluerumple5118]

Appreciate the honesty and thoroughness in ways to reduce road noise. I'll definitely look into your suggestions. Many thanks for creating the video.

[@ramadassvenkadasamy5480]

Very detailed. I took my Model Y in Dec'22 and I was having the same issue what you have discribed. Took it Tesla service they said it is acceptable noise and they were not able to feel the air pressure, Luckily I found your response in TMC. Today installed the Vinyl tubing 5/16" it really helped. Tesla should do this in all the Model Y regardless. Thanks for sharing your finding.

[@geoiowa]

is your door close fine?

[@ramadassvenkadasamy5480]

@@geoiowa no issues with the door closing.

[@ramantyagi7953]

You are amazing!! The vinyl tube definitely helped reduce booming/buffeting noise in my 2021 Model Y. Very upset with Tesla Service Center - they were not able to reproduce or help with this despite 2 appointments with them in the Dallas area

[@Joe-ud2hb]

Hi Matthew, you're one patient man & have helped alot of people, tesla should have this issue sorted though - I've got an Eniro & apart from some road noise on rough roads it's brilliant & rattle free. Didn't ever look at Teslas until the recent price cut & am considering trading but these noise issues are off putting. Keep up the good work.

[@TheCobovn]

You are the only one who knows what he is taking about. The stiffen the rubber seal of the trunk is the way to go

[@hattieucoi91]

I got the wedges installed from Tesla service for my MYLR. 20% booming and buffeting noise reduces, just installed the vinyl tube today to see if my ears is less painful. Looking forward to print the hatch stop. Thank you so much for your videos!

[@justinemi.2744]

I have a December 2023 manufactured MYLR. From day 1 of owning the ear pressure has been insane and I can attest it’s coming from the hatch. The hatch stop adjustment trick doesn’t do much. Does anyone know the details on the kind of hatch seal Tesla has vinyl tubing as per ilovecoffee? Why can’t just Tesla make this as standard let alone acknowledge this issue really exists for hundreds if not thousand of MY owners? Where can we sign a petition to make this heard to Tesla. This is where a physical recall comes in no?? Before I continue on with my rant Thank you so much for making this video and helping the entire tesla community disappointed with their cars! You are god-sent!

[@jmel1746]

Texas Ys have carpet up the sides of the front footwells as well as the sides of the cargo bay as opposed to plastic on the Fremont cars. The Texas Y included cargo cover also has ledges it rests upon, making a tight seal. The laminated glass of later model 3s and Ys seems to help too. Comparisons of highway driving with db meters shows the Texas Ys are quieter inside. I own 2 Model 3s, a 2018 and 2019. My early build windows flutter inside the doors when closing the doors with the frameless windows down. By 2019, my wife's 3 was improved, while not perfect. 2022 3s seem better still. My car's trunklid emits a clangy, metal cheap sound when closing the trunklid. By 2019, the 3 had a foam sound deadener inside the plastic trunk cover. The basic things that seem to be beta tested by customers are really earmarks of inexperience building cars. The Silicon Valley approach of continuously upgrading on the fly between model years is curious for a car company. Legacies cannot touch Tesla's software and swiftness to innovate, but it sure comes with frustration when you wait 1 year for your car and it comes with flaws that the older carmakers catch in their extensive testing protocols before the product us rolled out to customers.

[@ilovecoffee1409]

Is it really plastic in the footwell up the sides? I thought it was carpet on mine....Will have to look. But yes, the amount of soft surfaces you have in your car also help with noise reflection especially with that glass roof. I personally have extra carpets that I cut to fit, in mine as I do not like rubber mats. And perhaps that does help to some extent. The parcel shelf in the Texas Y probably contributes quite a bit to measured cabin noise reduction.

[@deen4732]

I stopped watching u tube a while back when they started deleting peoples post or silencing people they didn't like or their messaging. Someone told me about this video and you definitely deserve me to log in and give you a thumbs up. You were very detailed thank you

[@kencharleton9807]

Thank you. I will try the tubing in the rear hatch to fix my cabin pressure issue. Again thank you for posting this very informative video.

[@kelvinhung9434]

Tried the vinyl tube method. I feel it reduces some boominess but not eliminates it. It’s better than nothing

[@jon_k5801]

Thanks for all your work. I'd advise others to be careful with the wheel well work. During the Kilmat installation on the left wheel well, the "Bob's your uncle" piece developed a long crack going southwest from the seat switches and one of the larger plastic clips fell into the body of the car where it will live for eternity. I bought new clips from Amazon and fixed the crack from behind with a two step gluing process so I recovered. Putting it back on the second time, I marked the clip locations with tape so I wouldn't put pressure elsewhere. The right wheel well has a sub-woofer and amp in the way. I opened it and just closed it back up rather than figure out that disassembly. (2020 MYLR, Redwood Motorsports coil overs)

[@superteamvideo1930]

Lexus has felt wheel wells to reduce noise and a kind of sheet metal insulation to reduce noise penetration. I heard that covering the glass roof can be covered to reduce reflective sound. Also the door bottoms seal should help. Lining the hatch interior can help. In my other cars, replacing the windshield with a better one reduced wind noise significantly. That all being said, I will plan on using those weather resistant strips they have for home doors/windows. They have all helped me reduce the heating bill by half on a 116 year old house.

[@BateriasSobreRuedas]

Thank you for sharing this video. KEEP MAKING THEM!

[@rudischoors3874]

Very interesting! I’ve replaced my 2019 M3 from Fremont a month ago with a Berlin built LR AWD MY. Where the M3 was a total disaster on the Belgian freeway (notorious for there roughness), my MY is definitely a huge improvement on road/wind noise and overall ride comfort. However I might try some of your suggestion and maybe further improve. Thx!

[@claus1225]

you dont find your MY loud?

[@fredrik-wendt]

Have you tried anything here? I'm driving through Belgium in a month. 🙂

[@RavindranathVazhenkhat]

Thanks Matthew for the Video. I am also facing same issue in my 2023 Model Y that I picked up yesterday. Raised a ticket. If they don't fix it, will try this vinyl tube method

[@yeahbuddy92193911]

I might be one of the lucky ones. 2022MYLR7. It was already quiet but I put in RPM tesla 11 piece noise reduction kit and now it's as quiet as a church mouse. But it was already 2x less noisy than our Toyota Camry especially at speed

[@superteamvideo1930]

A Camry is superquiet. Is it true the rumours that the MYLR7 is quieter because of the 3rd row seats and more insulation?

[@yeahbuddy92193911]

@@superteamvideo1930 I dont know, possibly the 3rd row helps. But about the camry being quiet... umm no way lol. We are on our second camry, the wife cant stand how loud it is vs our Tesla.

[@davidbarnes7866]

A man of detail. Glad I am not the only one. Great video. More please.

[@jonathandarts1956]

I either put the windows down or turn the music up. Also, I will use ear plugs from time to time. Paid 52k OTD for the MYLR. Hopefully, the competition makes Tesla clean up the quality and quality control!!

[@maluisaevans4091]

We should hold Tesla responsible. Why are we make additional mods for a 60k car

[@kylehill4437]

Did you get the petition going?

[@SHINE88]

Yes, they are great cars but we should not have to do all these mods to have a somewhat quiet cabin for a $50k+ car!

[@Srinivaspadma]

@@kylehill4437 What are the steps to Petition?

[@jrkc9218]

I’d join!

[@MarcusWilke1978]

Das kann man mit jedem Auto machen 😆

[@Master-of-None-88]

Insanely good video! I think it's ridiculous how a consumer needs to go through all these steps to make a 50k car feel like a 50k car.

[@macdaddynick1751]

They absolutely don’t. Op sounds like he was driving on the cloud his entire life. Lol

[@lesallison]

I agree with you. I've started driving a model S. It's beautiful. I love it. But there is a very low frequency hum that I've noticed. It's perplexing. Thanks for the video.

[@vinlata]

I got same exact experience after driving my 2024 MY over 400 miles. Thanks for sharing

[@NecessaryJerry]

I picked up a new 24 in February and have not experienced any of these issues besides a dash rattle that ended up being the plastic cover under the frunk that you remove to access the HEPA filter. Its a dual motor and I think it rides fantastic. I am coming from a small VW GTI though so take that for what its worth.

[@mitchm2559]

Thank you for producing a very interesting and informative video describing your pursuit of noise abatement in the MY. From my experience, the noise that does continue to enter the cabin is further amplified by the 'poor' acoustics of the cabin. In this scenario, I refer to the cabin acoustics as poor for absorbance but rather excellent for reflectance. In particular, I am referring to the all the glass and 'hard' surfaces (just look at that massive glass dome canopy, which further reflects and echos the infiltrating noise. As proof of this, a conversation at normal volume levels with a passenger will sound louder (if not harsh) as compared to other "luxury" vehicles. On the other hand, I find the cabin acoustics excellent for loud music (which I play often) with the premium audio system. If further investigation is warranted, try to insert soft materials to cover glass roof and see is an improvement is measured. So, IMHO it's kind of a trade-off, poor acoustics during conversation, but great for music. Great job!

[@ilovecoffee1409]

100% that glass roof's ability to reflect sound in the cabin can be frustrating. Ever try clapping inside? It's so loud it hurts LOL! That being said, I couldn't bring myself to cover it up, but I have heard that people putting those fabric sun covers have noticed a difference in cabin noise being reduced. You could potentially put some professional wall sound absorption tiles on top of a cargo cover for example to maybe help reduce some of the reflected sound.

[@justinseau]

Something very important to note is that the sound system was optimised for the interior by the sound engineers and they took in to account the reflectiveness of glass.

[@marcovarchetta6093]

Thanks so much for this video. I have to say that after buying a Model Y, I left a very negative evaluation to Tesla and the Tesla Center where I brought the car to try to fix thise problems with absolutely no results. I compare my Tesla to the 90s FIAT cars that exit the factory with a LOT of vibration problems. Aren't we in 2023 now??? You haven't mentioned anything regarding the plate. Don't you have any vibrations or noise from there? Thanks so much.

[@aftrunx]

Exactly the same issue. Tried yesterday to extend a bit the adjusters (make it longer), the hope was that if i put more pressure on it, it would be better an not move so much, but it did make it worster. After that i reduced the space and it was a bit better. so for me definitly located the issues. Will replace the Suspension anyway this month and see if it will improve. Really a shame Tesla do not get rid of it. i have a MYP from Berlin that was affected from Trunk Issues. I can clearly see that they already tried some stuff in the Service Center, because the Bullets on Top have Tools Scratches, so the White color is scratched.

[@ilovecoffee1409]

I totally recommend you put vinyl tubing that is about 8mm in outer diameter in the gasket. It's very easy to do, you'll just have to re-do the adjusters after. It will definitely help.

[@marvinmckay4356]

Great video, sorry about your phone😢, I just got a 2020 model Y, hoping I can start some of your experiments soon😊

[@ChannelBri]

Thanks for your time and effort. Sorry about the phone.

[@naarealy]

I just traded my 2019 M3 for a 2023 MY LR. I felt the the pressure before I even left the lot. My service center wasn't able/willing to do anything about it. It's sad... Drove my new car 15 miles home and was already dreaming of selling it.

[@Joe-ud2hb]

Hi that's so disappointing to hear, I've got an Eniro & while it suffers from road noise on rough surfaces it's otherwise brilliant. With the recent tesla price cuts tho I'm going to test drive a Y soon but after seeing the noise issues I'm thinking steer clear, do you regret buying one or are there more pros than cons? Tks in advance..

[@naarealy]

@@Joe-ud2hb You should definitely test drive one. With the price reduction (+tax credit) it's a super value now. At $70k+ it was outmatched, but at $45-55k it's the best when factoring the charging network. Do I regret buying it? Yes and no. Its very efficient, even in the winter. The software is world class. The performance is excellent. There's definitely more good than bad. I do regret not buying a Model S instead. I test drove a Mercedes EQS. It had flashes of brilliance, but overall felt a generation behind Tesla's products. Decided to trade the model Y for a Model S.

[@Joe-ud2hb]

@@naarealy tks for the reply, I'll probably test drive anyway - hope your S goes quietly & safely 👍

[@Srinivaspadma]

Discounts are not worth to bear the cabin noise constantly.

[@zackzack7477]

Ok I just did this and can confirm, lots of bump noise dampens down. I only treated driver side rear wheel well, due to time constraints, but there was noticeable difference. Will treat the other side when I get home, and see how much difference it makes

[@georgeborrelli3134]

How did it work out for you after doing both sides?

[@zackzack7477]

@@georgeborrelli3134made about 30% more difference? Sharp high frequencies def toned down

[@georgeborrelli3134]

@@zackzack7477 I bought the materials and plan to do both rear wheel wells on my 22 M3P. Thanks!

[@zackzack7477]

in summary: Butyl mat spamming on wheel well: general low frequency reduction filling in empty space with thinsulate: loud low frequency noise reduction (eg: driving on construction surface, gravel surface) butyl mat + closed cell foam on external wheel well (where you have to take off the tires and take out the soft wheel well cover): good general first line of defense. gravel hitting on the wheel well noise greatly reduced, but not much improvement on other noise as filling in empty space with thinsulate@@georgeborrelli3134

[@jirimatlas3052]

Pomohlo, doporučuji provést. Hadice 8mm venkovní průměr z alzy za 50 Kč + hodinka práce to tam nacpat pomocí protahovacího pera a maziva na zafukování optických kabelů. 👍👍👍

[@TheKingship]

Just rented a model Y for 2 weeks I didn't really like it overall because of the charging on a road trip but there was no sound issues whatsoever It is one of the quietest cars I've ever driven it's a 2021 model Y

[@spark062671]

Interesting video; thank you. In your pursuit of a quieter MY, I am wondering if you have considered two technologies that are successfully employed by a number of auto producers. 1) Constrained-layer damping. Fundamentally it is a way to dissipate noise that comes from vibration; it employs a layer of viscoelastic material that is squeezed between two metal panels. It is remarkably effective but I am unaware of it being used to retrofit; it is typically engineered into certain areas of a car from the beginning; areas that are prone to noise from vibration. Still… 2) Noise cancellation. Yes, it’s used in everything from ear buds to aircraft but use in automobiles is widespread. ‘Pumping’ certain frequencies into a car’s cabin is a highly effective way to offset (cancel) the same frequencies that are characterized as noise. Again, I have no idea if anyone is employing this as an aftermarket technology, but I would imagine that it’s not impossible (or infeasible) to consider. Good luck in your pursuit.

[@ilovecoffee1409]

I've looked into aftermarket noise canceling and unfortunately there just aren't any readily available products for this. I have a feeling they are usually very highly tuned/calibrated systems in controlled environments

[@rajmohman]

Great video. It addressed one of the main issues with noise that I have noticed in my Model Y. I went ahead and tried it using three pieces and some 303 protectant and it slipped in with no problems and no tears. I adjusted all the rubber stops as well for a snug fit as you suggested. I noticed one thing afterwards though and am wondering if it is anything to be concerned about. Prior to the tubing, the hatch would unlatch pretty quietly. Now after the tubing is in there is a noticeable "snap" as the latch disengages before the hatch opens. There is no issue with closing and there does not appear to be any straining sound of the latch mechanism as it closes. I'm guessing the extra thickness of the gasket with the tubing and its greater stiffness is really snugging down the hatch which is why the car is quieter but is this putting too much stress on the latch itself that it could fail? Should I drop down a size and go with 1/4" OD tubing rather than 5/16"? I'd much rather put up with a little more noise rather than have to repair the latch mechanism in the future

[@ilovecoffee1409]

@@rajmohman Completely normal. Don't worry about it. It will also get a little less with time. I'm now on year 2 with this adjustment and all is 👍 Glad to "hear" you had an improvement.

[@rajmohman]

@@ilovecoffee1409 Thank you very much. I may try the sound dampening butyl in the future if I'm feeling brave!. I did previously get the Mountain Pass comfort coilovers you had mentioned and they make the car much more comfortable, getting rid of the harshness over bumps and they did bring the noise level down a little but nowhere near as much as the tubing.

[@lyfandeth]

I replaced the old rear shocks on my last car, and found a lot more rear axle hop. I called the new shock maker and he said on my model, to try reducing rear tire pressure one psi at a time, and check my guage. I found out that a 2psi drop made a HUGE difference. And, that any analogue tire pressure guage under $25 bucks these days is a POS. No two agreed with anything until I bought a digital model. FWIW, rear suspension and noise issues can that simple--and hard to spot!

[@sambosok9]

that’s really helpful, really appreciate it!

[@23d23d]

Awesome ! Thanks you for your work and honesty!

[@tonyg9174]

Thanks for taking the time to create this video, sorry about your phone

[@Christoffer.L]

So what we all wonder now that you missed to show is how much quieter your car really is. How many dB down is it when measure?

[@beefuzzy310]

2022 MYP, Fremont. Mine was a rattle box, super disappointed at first. My 3rd service appointment this year and they fixed the majority of the rattles. Both front pillars, rear seat at latch and rear hatch rattle. It said installed insulation on the service ticket. A few more service appointments and my new car will be new. Lol. A believe the fix is to keep upgrading your MYP. Going to need that power Frunk and new Camera upgrade soon anyways.

[@jonbiggs7582]

Finally got a chance to watch this. Have been following the TMC thread from the beginning. Thank you so much all you have done and taking the time to document everything!

[@ronkemperful]

The Model Y is a car that I’ve considered purchasing, but having both driven and ridden in my uncle’s car I have noticed a deep low resonance from the suspension over bumps that my lowly 2017 Subaru Forester completely masks. On a long road trip that persistent low rumble could be a dealbreaker for me. Thanks for your advice.

[@cryptoslacker-464]

Great information and presentation, tesla should hire you for product development lol One thing not related to noise but the last bash plate might be a good idea to buy. I watched a video where someone ran over rubbish and it went straight through the bottom panel at the front, causing battery cooling issues.

[@ilovecoffee1409]

I've thought about getting the one from MountainPass Performance because it's stainless steel, but I'd have to attach sound deadening material to it as it doesn't come with any.

i also insulated the rear hatch itself with sound deadending. It makes a huge differend. the rear hatch has no insulation, so it was a huge empty metal space. the bass booming was a lot better

[@ddeboy002]

You've done so much about noise, have to relayed this info the the tesla build team to help improve noise reduction in the cabin.

[@lucidf8]

Thanks. I have had a Model Y LR for about a month. I hadn’t really noticed any noise that bothered me. Of course, it’s not a totally quiet car, but the motor noise is substantially different from my ICE vehicle. The Y is more of a high pitch whine. Now I’ll probably start noticing lower frequencies. But, I haven’t really been on long drives either. Maybe it would bother me more if I tried that. I had hoped for the cargo cover, but didn’t get one. Also, it seems you are quite sensitive to the frequencies that are bothering you. I’m older and maybe just don’t notice them due to hearing differences. But my hearing problems are at 7.5 Khz and up, so that wouldn’t explain the low frequency issues. I’m sure that now that I know there are low frequency issues, I’ll probably start noticing them. Thanks for the the informative video!

[@TheScottShepard]

Maybe have that motor looked at. I have a MY LR from Dec 2021 and there is no motor noise. I’ve heard the noise from other KZbinrs and can say I am glad to not have it.

[@jmel1746]

Pavement tyoe really makes a difference. My Model 3 is a late 2018 build. My wife's 3 is a mid 2019. Both have noide issues on rougher grain concrete. By "issues", I jean EVs are quieter by nature so wind and road noise is intrinsically more noticeable. At 62 years-old, podcasts where one person's voice is softer always has me reaching to up the volume on the sound system. Road and wind noise at certain frequencues. Naturally, first world problems :)...But we did spend premium car dollars so there is an expectation...

[@bryce3377]

Thanks for this video. It is a shame Tesla is still producing kit cars that require owner mods. I am not aware of another brand that has a cottage industry supplying fixes for engineering shortcomings. There is no excuse for Tesla removing ultrasonic sensors before a substitute solution is available. I am considering replacing my 2018 M3 with a Y but this kind of thing gives me second thoughts.

[@xxotaruxx]

Just added in the tubing today in my new MYP.. Car is SIGNIFICANTLY better. The low bass is nearly all gone. Tried just adjusting the stoppers first and that helped, but 5/16 tubing worked very well. Although it took me about 7 or 8 sections instead of just 3.. but oh well. Thanks for this!

[@claus1225]

do you have a '22 or '21 MY? Is this noise issue still persist today?

[@xxotaruxx]

@@claus1225 I have a 23. I still have the boominess every now and then, but after the tube and adjusting the stoppers a bit, it got much better.

[@evhelphub]

Hey James, does your hatch lock sound louder now? I think the lock has some pressure and with it unlatches it's pretty loud. I did 5/16 through the top and sides with 5/8 on the bottom portion as recommended by another user below. Thinking I might have to switch to all 5/16 unless adjusting the feet help.

[@Tysport11]

How hard was it to do?

[@evhelphub]

@@Tysport11 it's actually pretty easy as the rubber gasket stretches far more than you would expect. However, it only helped minimally. Still getting really bad bassy sounds on all roads that aren't freshly paved. Such a huge bummer.

[@mr88cet]

Intriguing video; thanks! So far, in the week we’ve had our MYLR, noise hasn’t been nearly as much of a concern as its bumpy (or perhaps “jiggly”) ride, despite using 19” wheels. It didn’t seem quite so much so in the test drives, but perhaps that’s just different roads or so-so memory on my part. Or it could potentially be a difference in tires, I suppose.

[@harriettanthony7352]

Now this is curious; an EXPENSIVE fancy Tesla, and they do not do the basics of NVH? By contrast my humble 2019 Niro EV has no hatch seals problem. BUT, I did just what the Presenter did; soundproof the entire rear tub and wheel wells. That whole space is a huge metal kettledrum for noise. And the "Y" is far bigger than my Niro. I also took off the rear hatch plastics and did the back of the hatch. And Niro specific, there is a plastic skid plate under the EV. I had some sound proofing materials left over, so when I changed the back up lamps to LED, which required removing the skid plate, I gave the plate the sound proofing treatment. It all helps. Good video; as with all things 'to improve a Tesla, ''99% of it should have been done at the factory.

[@seantiz]

Very helpful. Interestingly, and confirming your findings, my Model S has a “solid” parcel shelf. When I fold it, cabin noise increases noticeably compared to when it is flat / fully deployed. I didn’t expect this, but the very first time I drove with it folded, I could immediately hear the cabin noise increase.

[@robertiantria5222]

Thank you for a great video. Can I get your opinion on an idea please? Do you think removing the old gasket, purchase a brand new gasket, put tubing in it, then installing it on the Tesla is easier than your process? Would the results be better? Thank you for posting this great video.

[@ilovecoffee1409]

I can't imagine it being easier because if I'm not mistaken the gasket part has an aluminium piece that is sort of crimped on there. It truly is not that hard to route the vinyl tubing through, especially if it's 5/16" outer diameter. 3/8" on the other hand, which I used, required a bit more finessing.

[@ilovecoffee1409]

Well to update my comment...another commenter did that and it seemed to work for them...so...maybe? I just prefer not removing things if I don't have to.

[@hgh425]

Thank you for the effort. And thank you for sharing.

[@someoneelse6934]

Tell me you are OCD without telling me you are OCD 😂 thank you for the tips and diligence. I am going to start with the 5/16th vinyl tubing tip.

[@declinox]

I have noticed the low-frequency noise in my MYLR, but it doesn't bother me nearly as much as the numerous rattles. I'm in the process of resolving all those.

[@dougwest7839]

Great video but I was hoping you could go into more detail about where exactly you put the sound dampening material on the rear quarter panel? In the video all I can see is some sound dampening on the back side of the wheel well but did you lay it down all the way to the front of the wheel well also? Did you roll the sound dampening material? Also, you said 3 layers. Would you add more if you did it again? Just felt the video lacked enough detail for me to do it myself? Thanks!

[@ilovecoffee1409]

That's correct, I think it would be kind of difficult to film, but that sound-deadening material extends from the back of the wheel well to the front of it, essentially trying to cover as much of that wheel well as possible. You can't really see what you're doing but you can feel it (don't forget to wear gloves!) I think after 4 layers you'd have diminishing returns, so I wouldn't feel the need to add more personally. Check out the Video Description for a link to TMC for more details on sound-deadening.

[@dougwest7839]

So I just looked at my Jeep Cherokee parked right next to my Tesla and so many similarities on the hatches and fit. I don’t understand why it would be so pronounced. Two things I see though, the strut on the Jeep is straight up and down while the Tesla is exactly a right angle to the rear hatch window. Maybe there is sound that travels in the direction of the strut hitting the rear window? But the bigger question, since not everyone experiences this, the glass on the Jeep hatch and the Tesla is much different. The Jeep glass on the hatch sounds very solid and thick. The tesla hatch window is thin and much thinner than any of the other windows on the Tesla including the roof. Possibly some Tesla’s rear hatches have more than one glass manufacturer or part supplier? Would securing the hatch so tightly minimize any kind of flex in that thin rear hatch window?

[@ilovecoffee1409]

@@dougwest7839 I can't imagine the glass flexing causing noise, and also it would be a major issue if it caused that and we'd probably see lots of randomly broken rear windows. The rear hatch glass does actually have a rubber membrane IIRC around the outer edge behind the trim, and this may have partly to do with the heating elements and partly to do with reducing vibration transfer. It's the weight of the door against the seal that creates the noise and resulting vacuum effect in the cabin. The glass roof is a whole other item, which allows all noise to reflect quite easily in the cabin (not just low frequency). Ever have someone else clap their hands inside the car? Yeesh! LOL. But other than covering it up (which would be a shame), there's nothing that can be done about that.

[@kylehill4437]

Finally someone doing something about it instead of complaining. EXCELLENT video! Few question did the little rear hatch seals make an improvement for noise? Did the 3/8 made a noticeable improvement over the 5/16? 3/8 Outer Diameter or Internal Diameter? Again thanks for the video.

[@ilovecoffee1409]

Hey Kyle. I personally never used 5/16" in my own vehicle but I've installed it in others. 3/8” OD is pretty well the maximum you can go until you start running into issues with the latch having trouble or having too big a panel gap. Likely the bigger the better because it's preventing more flex in the door but for some Ys that does require several opens and slams shut and probably driving around with it remained closed so the tubing gets adjusted in its new position.

[@dufd11]

Sorry about your phone! Amazing video, thank you.

[@IAmVik01]

Seriously, air pain,air pressure, please don’t lie

[@TheRealRoscoe]

When I watched the first few minutes of your video, I thought "I do NOT have this problem. My Model Y is pretty quiet (not Lexus quiet, but pretty good). Then taking my son to school this morning I heard it...And I cannot UNhear it. You're spot on. A very low frequency, around 30Hz. I'm going to try some of your recommended remediations. Question: after you installed the parcel shelf, did you notice any negative impact to your audio? There's a pretty nice subwoofer back there.

[@ilovecoffee1409]

The parcel shelf does not cover the rear speakers. As far as the subwoofer is concerned I feel it helps somehow as even though I enjoy moderate bass from the subwoofer I found it too harsh on certain songs. I find it made bass in music more even. Of course that's my purely anecdotal assessment.

[@RicViperskylogs]

I have a 2022 ModelYP is crazy quiet. No issues here

[@SC-lb6cn]

Frankly, for the prices they charge for these cars this should all be done by Tesla, not the customer. This isn’t a new first year car. It should also have air suspension at this price too.

[@jimroth7927]

Just bought a Model Y a few days ago and it is very quiet.

[@beachcrow]

Same here, have an Austin built with comfort suspension. Very quiet. Likely stiffer seals now being used as the front door needs effort to close fully.

[@jimroth7927]

@@beachcrow I noticed that my driver's door needs some effort to close properly. Don't need to slam it, but a gentle push won't work. I thought maybe the latch needs to be adjusted, but maybe it is stiffer seals, as you suggest. Thanks.

[@beachcrow]

@@jimroth7927 Tesla suggested that it will get easier over time so best not to mess with adjustments as that could introduce alignment issues. Enjoy your new car!

[@AlvinSvitzer]

This. Many thanks, my friend.

[@Robis-]

the biggest issue on any tesla are frameless windows and you can not to solve the noise going thru it. Even on the Plaid active noise cancelation on speakers doesn't help. And when you take BMW compact size sedan it has better noise isolation then plaid, but some how americans thinking that tesla is premium brand. For sure, lol

[@tgainfo]

Thanks for a great video! I am in doubt about the thickness on the vinyl - Is it 3/8-approx 9,5 mm or is it 5/16-approx 8 mm, I know you coreected it to 5/16, but on teslamotorclub, I saw it was 3/8

[@Nate7700]

Wow you tried basically everyting thanks for sharing!

[@davecanham3884]

Great video, thanks! Did you find the parcel shelf impacted quality of your sound system as seems like it might cover speakers in the hatch?

[@ilovecoffee1409]

It does not cover the speakers, the speakers are above the shelf. It's probably at a nearly identical height to the stock parcel shelf being installed in China, Europe and Austin. In a strange way I felt it improved the sound system mainly through evening out the subwoofer.

[@newjeans5050]

Inspirational video! I want to put the deadening on the rear wheels like you said. Did you have to remove the subwoofer out of the way or were you able to sneak it in and push down the butyl (using hand or ? )

[@ilovecoffee1409]

You have to remove it of the way (along with the amp) but you don't have to disconnect it. Check the link in the description for more detailed notes on the install.

[@dksculpture]

Thanks for making this video. I don’t know if there have been changes, but it would be interesting to know what year your MY is. Also, does it have gigacastings or not? I think you mentioned that it’s Freemont built. Thanks again.

[@happyhippo1710]

@Ilovecoffee with all these issues that you went over on the MY, do you regret your purchase or would you tell others who are on the fence to not go through with the it? I am on the fence at this point and scared that I could get a defective car.

[@ilovecoffee1409]

I would've regretted it if I couldn't fix it...which is why I was so obsessed with solving this particular issue...to avoid the hassle of selling and resorting to buying a car I didn't really want. I wouldn't worry too much now. It's completely fixable. If I wanted to upgrade in a few years and this problem was still present, it wouldn't stop me from buying another one. It's such a great car.

[@baldisaerodynamic9692]

i test drove a model 3 and the noise thru the cabin from the rear of the car was drastically loud and turned me off after i enjoyed just about everything else about the car. after that I test drove the EV6, and it was near silent inside....its def build quality or lacking sound deadening materials. i can toally undersand your pain with road noise.

[@billyyoung1630]

2024 Model Y had this booming effect. It made me nauseous after a 1 hour test drive. The refreshed model 3 test was next, it did not have the issue.

[@kezhao376]

Thank you so much for sharing🙏🙏🙏 Just by installing the vinyl tube, and did the envelope test to adjust the knobs, the booming noise that hurts my eardrums everyday has already been greatly reduced 👍 I will also try the 3d printed TPE parts as my next step. How much percentage do you think the sound deadening material above the rear wheel can contribute comparing with the vinyl tube installation?

[@ilovecoffee1409]

The sound deadening material is the second most noticeable modification. The tubing gets rid of the real harsh brain-fog inducing low frequency, and the sound deadening removes a good chunk of the remaining low-frequency road noise, bringing the car one step closer to feeling less dramatic over bumps. I would very much recommend it if you've got the ability to do it.

[@MikeLuke]

Super interesting and helpful, thanks for this video. I just got my MY Performance out of the new Giga Berlin, Germany - which seems to have some improvements built in. I have no comparison to a Model Y LR, however, I feel there‘s literally still room for getting the car quieter. In my car there‘s a very annoying rattling noise coming from the back, wasn‘t able to locate it properly yet. Sounds like some plastic piece moving, because it gets worse when I drive over bumps - with the Performance suspension and the 21“ wheels being stiffer already. And I feel sorry for your phone :(

[@leelisecki1376]

The interior plastic trim surrounding the rear hatch glass particularly around the center brake light may not be sitting tight and flush against the glass and can rattle. Inserting a small slim piece of adhesive window weatherstripping between the glass and plastic should stop the rattle.

[@kurtlaipple]

There is also some rattle occasionally from the seat belt dispenser housings, check that, as well.

[@ilovecoffee1409]

Yeah that has driven me nuts. For me it happens when the temperature drops seasonally, I can hear rattling from the driver side seat belt. I have done one of the tricks I found on KZbin and Tesla Service has looked at it, but it still creeps up randomly. I may look at it again this winter.

[@Wuzzingup]

I suffer from the same problem in my 2022 MY car. Tomorrow I’m pinpointing the sound for one last time with help from my brother. If we can’t pinpoint I’ll just sell the car. Had enough of quality issues and Tesla negative stories. Curious about Volvo XC30..

[@fredrik-wendt]

Wow, thanks - but what did the three layers dampening consist of? Antivibration; Noise Isolation; Noise Absorption? Or just some kind of combo material?

[@ilovecoffee1409]

It's called Butyl which is like a rubber material with adhesive that sticks onto body panels for absorbing vibration.

[@fredrik-wendt]

@@ilovecoffee1409 Awesome. I've got a MYLR 2023 from Berlin, and while it's quieter than the 2021 from China I did my measurements in, I'd still like to see if I can reduce cabin noise. Thank you so much for sharing your hard work!

[@davidcattich190]

Mine is also loud . Thanks for your video

[@alphatech9702]

Hey man, thanks for the video. Have you done some measurements of before and after your modifications? Really curious. Keep up the good work, like your video’s a lot.

[@ilovecoffee1409]

Yes. Sort of. Comparing mine to a stock Model Y with no changes. In less than ideal road conditions. The link is in the video description.

[@linhlevni]

Thanks for the video. I tried to put the 5/16 tube in but then i realized the door close very heavily and the latch makes a very loud noise when open like the door was stuck and forged to close. I’m worry about long term use, the latch will be destroyed 🙂‍↕️

[@ilovecoffee1409]

@@linhlevni Don't worry. That's normal. It won't be destroyed. I've had this but bigger tubing for 2 years now. The tension will be reduced as the tubing settled and gets pressed into place.

[@ericlee7117]

Great video! For the Wheel well insulation do the parts replace the original liners or go over them? thanks

[@ilovecoffee1409]

It goes on top 👍