Let's Play: Urban Empire - A Multi-Era City Ruler! - Part 2 [Sponsored]

[@SuperHipsterGamer]

Quill is really showing his "canadiness" here. The political axis makes perfectly good sense in the context of European political history.

[@leejames929]

its not really that hard to understand as a Canadian person either lol

[@SuperHipsterGamer]

leejames929 Yeah, when he threatened the party to support him or cease to exist and he was surprised about the consequences, I realized that Quill might just not have an aptitude for politics. :P

[@brotherbarnaby4464]

Honestly you could have stopped at aptitude and replaced "for politics" with "for speaking to humans and understanding human emotion".

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

These can't release fast enough to be honest. I'm actually ridiculously excited to play this game. I'm like a kid at Christmas but its January.

[@FernandoSV]

i pictured a kid who spent x-mas on an induced coma in the hospital

[@templarkiller2926]

Fernando SV Christmas is dumb anyway, I would've loved a reason to not have to have my entire family try to hug me and give me things

[@FernandoSV]

what's wrong with hugs and stuff?

[@templarkiller2926]

***** They suck, I don't like people touching me or talking to me about how their day was, it is irrelevant and christmas is a huge waste of time, I would rather do something more productive, like sleeping

[@FernandoSV]

ok but based on that your problem is not x-mas, it's people... and holidays maybe?

[@MrTohawk]

I've been refreshing for this.

[@QualeQualeson]

My God, quill is turning into a mix of Castro and Nixon.

[@KyBr2000]

Fichard Nistro?

[@lioraselby5328]

nah I think he's more of a Ridel Nastro, myself.

[@jesot]

I love how completely arbitrary his tax increase was in this one. Didn't do any calculations for what he actually needed.

[@patrickryan8643]

Who is Castro and Nixon?

[@aturchomicz821]

@@patrickryan8643 Bruh

[@maixck]

We want more of this quill!

[@TheFourEyedGamer]

I've been waiting days for this to come out XD

[@liamvervecken3231]

I really like this let's play

[@FrostPegasus]

Left - Right is the economic axis, Conservative - Liberal is the social axis. So a left conservative would be a communist, a left liberal would be a progressive, a right liberal would be a libertarian and a right conservative would be a fascist. Roughly speaking in extremes, that is.

[@vathek5958]

speaking in extremes a left liberal would be an anarcho-communist and a right liberal would be an an anarcho-capitalist, but basically yeah.

[@fleshhunter8703]

I don't think the game will support the ideals of...The Extremes or even the Anarchist because it is hard to make a city ruling game about them or portray them right

[@owenferrara]

Well yea its kind of hard to portray an anarchy when you are playing as the government

[@VarietyGamerChannel]

Center extreme Conservative would be a fascist. Top center of compass in game. Right conservative would be a neocon. Fascists are very mixed economic policy.

[@Narcisist01]

Quill put them faster!! even if it is a sponsored thingy

[@lovfro]

Not much chance of that as he's in Erp at the moment. So there will not be created any content for the channel and what has been recorded has to cover that time span. Thus any change in schedule seems highly unlikely.

[@krios4141]

"not much chance as he's in Erp at the moment" I'm a roleplayer and i needed a few second to realize you didn't mean "Erotic Roleplay" Derp

[@lovfro]

Haha, no Erp, with Brussels, the capital of France =D

[@jasperbeumer1110]

lol

[@lovfro]

Also, I must be in the wrong circles. Have played rpgs for decades and have never encountered ERP as an abbreviation. Now I wish I had ;-)

[@thespacepope88]

In which Quill learns you can't tax a population into prosperity

[@Syfmuna]

It's clear Quill is having a lot of fun with this so far, which is a really nice reflection of the game.

[@randomguyMN]

Mr Mayor why did you tens of thousands of dollars into a pub? Quill: I do all my drinking there

[@pop5678eye]

What defines 'left' and 'right' as well as 'conservative' or 'liberal' are quite a bit subjective to both era and country. The word 'liberal' in the US for example was used in fact to describe people believing in more economic freedom until the 1950s. Then there was a grand realignment of parties and labels between the 50s and 80s here until Reagan, when republican pundits imposed a new definition of 'liberal' in the media for propaganda purposes that since stuck. On the other hand, the word 'liberal' in, for example former Eastern Bloc countries still carries the older notion of economic freedom. Curiously though, in Europe 'liberal' is associated with social freedom as well, just like in the US. Other contrast on definitions include the historic French revolutionary government, labeled 'extreme left' due to its extreme government control and ultra-nationalism, while the German Third Reich is labeled as 'extreme right' for the same features... The point is: if your argument is based on labels such as 'liberal' or 'conservative' you may not have an argument...

[@aturchomicz821]

Too real😔

[@Kalleosini]

man I've been waiting for this vid

[@patrickvaughan3050]

Quill is taxing his city to death and doesn't even realize it...

[@danjal87nl]

Think there's a bit of an audio desync on this one? Also, lol on the limited liability - "We don't want government interfering with our businesses - we also do not want to be held responsible if we screw up!"

[@djdorkyduck1242]

please do more of this. I come back every night to see if there is more to watch before i go to sleep

[@daisiihampton92]

Thank you for the Let's Play series....you have made it fun and engaging!

[@Pandillatime3]

I'd wish he'd look at a balance sheet or something to see where the expenses are.

[@nicholasroberts8378]

Pandillatime3 same

[@DeePScharge]

The problem is with the taxes. They are so high that businesses close down thus there is less people to take money from. TL;DR To get more money he needs to lower taxes.

[@nicholasroberts8378]

DeePS Yep I think most player in city building games run into this death spiral. They need money for expanding the city/or staying green they raise taxes. People become broke and the economy goes stagnate which makes taxes go even high and the process repeats until the government collapses

[@lolmandos]

+Nicholas Roberts I think my country is playing a city building game

[@nicholasroberts8378]

Mandos Aldmer I think most countries are playing a city building game lol

[@sumol700]

Quick correction, labour unions gives you a quick, decent boost to the health, but also increases health demands, so its a short term invrstment that booms your city up a bit but you have to deal with the backlash later, as the demand increases for ever, while the boost doesnt

[@CosmicSomnia]

I really think the political element and the detail in what is produced adds a lot to the game. I can't wait for more, bring it on Quill!

[@FeCyrineu]

Quill, just so you know, progessive laws like labour unions and such increases the supply of the wheel of life temporarily, but increase the demand for the wheel of life permanently, so these laws are double edge swords.

[@Jester4tw]

It's crazy how much better Quill is at this game then some other KZbinrs. Lol

[@amshermansen]

I wonder how long into the game Quill realizes that the pressure options in voting actually costs goodwill.

[@leejames929]

it seems rather obvious i do not know how he is not noticing

[@maskedlurker2297]

--'{@ Look at the last vid. He mentioned how much good will Each pressure choice costs.

[@Treviisolion]

I just wonder when he'll realize that for many of those votes (since I assume he doesn't need a super-majority) he didn't need to pressure everyone as hard as he did, especially since one party is basically always in favor of what he wants, the party that was generally opposed only had about equal membership, so all he needs is more than a bit of neutral from the middle party and he probably shouldn't influence them so soon since he can influence them later on after the parties might have already taken a few good whacks.

[@Valkanna.Nublet]

Great, now I need to wait for episode 3, and 4, and 5.. :D

[@DoomDutch]

"*OBJECTION* It will be fine, for I, Miles Edgeworth, find it a delightful name!"

[@Oborowatabinostk]

That gift from Penultimo is an awesome easter egg! 😂

[@Liberty0522]

Quill, you should note that at least in the United States, the Democratic party was considered the more conservative party, while the Republican party was considered the more Liberal party. Hence the fact that with issues concerning slavery, the modern day democratic party was for Slavery and the modern day Conservative party was Against slavery.

[@EcOikonomia]

anyone else just love the ka-ching sound on the start. Good old quill

[@TheScaarab]

Seriously Quill. Would you open business in a deserted town that has 25% taxes for business and 20% for people? Would you even move there?

[@Morrigi192]

It's a classic example of leftism crumbling when confronted with harsh reality.

[@craftworded]

Morrigi192 ?

[@Muffinmurdurer]

Or it's leftism not working in the wrong environment? He hasn't given them even half of what leftists want. Give us healthcare safety and fun so we know that the taxes aren't going nowhere.

[@aturchomicz821]

@@Morrigi192 Fascist much?

[@yc5521]

I don't know but I looooove this, please update more

[@IT-kone]

20:52 HAAAAAAHHHAHAHA!! Penultimo, my favourite character from Tropico-series!

[@screengamer6418]

I'm glad good strategy games are still being made and played! Especially by good players!

[@gregdiehl3824]

Your industry is tanking. Might be a good idea to slightly lower business taxes?

[@DeePScharge]

Quill is in for a wild ride down the Laffer curve xD

[@KennyHazy97]

He's gonna tax these dudes into space.

[@aturchomicz821]

Libertarian much?

[@shaneriordan4727]

The demands interaction doesn't appear to show a goodwill change but the tooltip when selecting which stance to take shows the cost

[@guitaroso]

Love the fact you actually announce this is a sponsored vid - new to your stuff, but the lines are generally a bit blurred

[@aNytmare]

The left vs right axis was a bit confusing for me as well. But I think the issue is that it is with respect to an monarchic empire reaching towards democracy. While we are used to think of it with resspect to an established demoacracy. So I don't think it is 'inverted' but more like a huge shift to the right (I think?) happened. What they think is 'right' is 'left' from our view.

[@IngoNikot]

left/right in this game is about economics (left=more state influence in economics) liberal/conservative is about personal freedom (conservative=more state influence against civil rights) (examples for the corners:) left liberal: personal freedoms, but restricted economy right liberal: classical liberal with personal freedoms and free economy left conservative: udssr right conservative: like the german empire in and before the first world war, free economy but restrictions to personal freedom if you live in the us you are used to the mixed up system were liberal=left. i assume the reason for that is that they have a two party system. in my country these are seperated into muliple partys (our liberals are pro private gun ownership, our left and right party are pro state)

[@tinydanser17]

Hey you should upload this more often it's very entertaining

[@richieburkett9471]

A little hint on the political compass. Up is socially conservative maybe even authoritarian. Down is socially liberal and maybe even closer to minarchy. Left and right are the economic spectrum. The left being higher taxes etc, the right being free markets etc.

[@frustrate100]

Looks like a Civilization and City Skylines lines, combined. I am talking about the Tech, the zoning.

[@LambtacoGames]

It's like Sim City, but with bureaucracy and politics preventing you from doing what you want. As someone who plays city builders as a creative outlet, this doesn't look like the game for me. But thanks for showing the gameplay. You learn a lot more about a game from watching people play it than reading reviews and watching trailers.

[@MisterClassified]

I want more of this!

[@sbogamergtaminecrat]

Edgeworth! next is certainly gonna be Whright!

[@ReaperP13]

"didn't even cost us any good will" yes it did, dont know why it didnt show in results, but it definitely went down

[@The8347135]

19:37 The implication that things might go wrong for her if she refuses to sleep with me. Now, not that things are gonna go wrong for her, but she’s thinking that they will.

[@Samuel88853]

need these daily until the game is released.

[@lastgamebender]

Super interested in this game, I'm only bothered a little bit by the lack of tooltips after playing so much Paradox games. Then again, maybe it is intentional to hide the effects of some political events until you make your choice. I'm not sure if that's a good thing or not!

[@meanmanturbo]

Hmmm, I wonder if waiting to place any services until you have four districts in a nice square block and putting all the services in the center intersection is a viable starting strat.

[@cupid_47]

I hope you continue to play this game

[@SirAugwich]

The lack of tooltips for some of these decisions is really bothering me. Like, how do I know whether I should choose police or clinics? What's the effect of doing so?

[@januszskudrzyk1577]

We have to make CENTREQUILL great again. Yes, we can.

[@trippfields279]

Quill is now a combination of Castro and Nixon

[@ProgrammerInProgress]

This was a good playthrough of the game, I've watched some others and they've been absolutely god-awful, not because the let's player was a bad presenter, but they just got too bogged down in explaining each aspect of the game, they would spend 5 minutes explaining an option while I (the viewer) wanted to just see the consquences of the action play out, it was painful. Great job! Look forward to playing this (I just pre-ordered!)

[@KSriram]

In a sixty member council if 41 seats are with one party, I don't think there is much point in doing anything with other parties.

[@KhisanthMagus]

this looks great and you got them another copy sold with these videos

A llama from a tropical country? Yeah, right... that makes a lot of sense...

[@SaucyNapkins]

In this game Right and left leaning is in the classical sense, by definition liberal means to desire new ideas, and conservative means to desire more of the same. The meaning is the same politically speaking, but "liberal" for this time was the concept of laissez faire.

[@skiwaffle]

For the victory conditions, do you have to meet all of them at the same time, or just do it as a one time thing?

[@Dilpikl2]

"the modern Prometheus" was the alternate title of Frankenstein.

[@ben_rosiers]

5:58 "Laissez-faire" ... Montreal speaking right there

[@RoseSolane]

More a French Ontarian (Greater Sudbury). Other province, (almost the) same language!

[@lioraselby5328]

That British novel "A Modern Prometheus," is probably more recognizable by its other name, "Frankenstein."

[@zyzla87]

taxes was the best strategy for starting off, but I believe that`s what shrinks economy, so industry section doesn`t grow as you expand... Probably lowering taxes from 20% to ~15-17% as soon as you hit the point of establishing 2nd district would be the way to go forward...

[@Redtecho]

I was going to the tosche, tosche station... to pick up some power converters...

[@MrSigmatico]

Unions is like the most important thing in the world, support them all the way I would say.

[@misterinadequate3518]

thanks for doing this. Always enjoy your series and this is a game I've already invested in. Like that you don't restart after mistakes but try to play through them. You have the advantage over me of actually having play time, but I think you might want to use a lighter touch on the political end. Kind of like playing a violin... you don't want to grind it.. you want to caress your opponents. just my opinion.

[@noahkaplan91]

More of this Quill!! I agree with some other ppl here. It might be a good idea to lower taxes for the commercial buildings.

[@slumpdogyt]

My wallet does not like you anymore Quill. You put taxes way too high!

[@patrickryan8643]

LOL

[@danielgyllenbreider]

Kalypso?? NOOOOOOOO!!!! I still havent forgiven them for Tropico 5.

[@bdon2088]

What was wrong with Tropico 5?

[@asuna495]

I hope you realize that they didn't develop it, they are publishing it (publisher) and the developer is Reborn Interactive.

[@mowtow90]

Tropico 4 was overall better game. The jokes and humor ware much more spot on while in 5 are a bit of cliche.

[@tribblier]

Brandon Mooney It was a bit shite

[@pascalausensi9592]

They are both great games but i would say 4 was better because, in my opinion, it allow more different playing styles, you could make an Island in where your only source of income were Labor Camps, while 5 usually forces you to play like a State Capitalist and create a Tropical Dubai...

[@4theloveofDub]

MOAR, please

[@pokemilfhunter622]

Just one word-MOAR

[@Fluugan]

This was probably commented in the last episode, and it's not like you're gonna read this anyway, but you always use some goodwill when doing any of the influencing.

[@Reecer77]

Quill, please. You gotta put a courthouse in Edgeworth. For me. That randomly generated name was fate.

[@nordicwillness]

Does this game allow healthcare and many current government services in the world to be privatized? Like if i don't want to spend public funds on police stations or school does the game simulate and create those without my say because it should still have demand? Maybe if i never do it and another party says they will provide it I'll lose power. I preordered the game and look forward to seeing what i can do.

[@Celfysiologie]

Hey Quill! you are not attracting enough people and industry. short term your taxrate may profit you. But in the long run it could be wise to lower your taxes. :) Keep up the good work! Real fan of your work.

[@64bitrobot]

Holy crap you have to lower taxes, not raise them. The reason there's no demand is because the taxes are too high!

[@trippfields279]

64bitrobot Quill likes raising taxes lol.

[@andrewhawkins6754]

@quill18 you're having a crappy economy because you raised taxes too much. The citizens get paid and then they get taxed. They shop with what they have left, and if there isn't enough left, commercial and industrial (your major sources of income) suffer. High taxes also reduce the number of people willing to move into the city, which does not help with your money issue.

[@Matthew-uv6gl]

This looks like it could be a great game.

[@KRCkleini]

+quill18: What do you think about the replayability of this game?

[@powerist209]

Well, it's more 19th century politics, Quill. Laissez tend to be more liberal thing when in a time when traditional usually represent aristocracy. At least in Central Europe and Germany where an example would be Kaiser Wilhelm would be conservative but support welfare policy to 1. compliance through rewards 2. strengthen government control. Though Britain might be those since free trade tend to be rival with more conservative members, like Corn Laws.

[@Gamerblam]

20:29 El Presidenté congratulates you

[@DezDies]

There isn't enough graft in this city, you need to make at least 10x as much money and you need to implement beatings if your citizens don't pay.

[@patrickvaughan3050]

Quill is terrible at this game...but I can't stop watching. I want to play this.

[@dannymilner9337]

more!!! i cant wait for this

[@Furrnox]

Quill thinks the way for a city to prosper is to keep raising taxes... Which is killing his city I'm pretty sure.

[@Morrigi192]

Yep.

[@khairusthevirus2164]

Over taxing can hurt your Economy overall .. I think increasing the taxes that high is making the businesses in town go bankrupt and reduce consumer spending.... might be why you are losing money even with higher taxes ie: less people making less money to pay the Tazes

[@piwo888pl]

Two axis political chart symbolises the party's economic and social issues stance. X axis in this case is a classical socialist-laissez faire contrast, while the Y axis goes from authoritarian to liberal in such issues as drugs, abortion same-sex marriage etc. Such chart is more in-depth than classical left and right divide because it helps to mark various nuances. Don't listen to all these people telling you that left/right were inverted in the past, also left and right means exactly the same thing in all countries.

[@Firestar9]

They still got Tropico Economy where your profits go every were for random resons

[@slosh11111420]

Left and right just implies what side of the senate you sit on.

[@finnokeefe2184]

I love this game

[@UnknownGunslinger]

There is not a single policy that Quill doesn't like!

[@MrSigmatico]

Limited companies are such a pain, we should never have allowed them anywhere, that is how cowboy builders were made.

[@Stormfox93]

Doesn't K stand for Krone? It was a currency used in the Austria-Hungarian Empire.

[@swedishZ0mBi3]

Stormfox or K for kilo, which means 1000.

[@shesh2265]

mhmhmm dat moment when you see this video you in your subbox

[@Lordakie]

does he got the industrial embargo?

[@willferrous8677]

They should probably have named the left-right axis the "authoritarian-libertarian" axis instead, if they want to use the US parlance. Especially since most Americans think of the conservative-liberal spectrum when the terms left and right is used, and since conservative-liberal is already on the compass in-game it would seem silly and redundant and confusing at first glance.

[@AMP09FH]

it's the early 1820s. "liberals" (i.e. classical liberals) were considered left-wing for most of the 19th century. conservatives were generally anti-capitalism, anti-free trade etc., viewing them as dangerous and destabilizing to the old social and political orders, and so were right wing. when social liberals (the current American "liberals") came around, they took the left, while conservatives became associated with classical liberalism. classical liberalism is also strongly associated with right libertarians (left libertarians are "libertarian socialists").

[@Alomoes]

I think it would be fair to replace conservative with authoritarian, and liberal with libertarian. Anyways, in 19th century Europe, there was a divide between the old style conservatives, who wanted more power to the king and believed in government's power to keep order, and the liberals, who wanted free markets and laissez-faire. I am pretty sure that is what the alignment system means.

[@xdragon901]

You really like taxes at the city level.

[@trevorm1876]

Looks kind of like a combination between Civ and Sim City

[@neroxen_]

Trevor McQuaid or instead of simcity, cities skylines.

[@endersdragon34]

I would say Democracy more than Civ but yea.

[@pascalausensi9592]

Democracy + Cities Skylines and hopefully something from Tropico...

[@PEZtheDestroyer]

maybe keep the speed up little more. like more on the times when your waiting for stuff to be passed.