ASOIAF Theories: The Grand Game | Understanding the Birth of Dragons II

[@calikesh6475]

None of your videos are Ice... all of them are straight Fire 🔥🔥🔥

[@lbentosoares4]

Neither...His videos are both, only not competing, but cooperating!

[@lbentosoares4]

Neither...His videos are both, only not competing, but cooperating!

[@justatiefling9528]

Your videos are not only very smart and informative but also super suspenseful, spooky even! I could listen to your voice for days, you really know how to tell stories (Especially your retelling of Old Nan's story, it was beautifully creepy). Amazing, I absolutely love your stuff and I can't wait for more.

[@dustins7123]

Confirmed.

[@ash1rose]

I hope you do audiobooks one day. Or record more here. You have the best voice for fantasy, mystery, and horror I've ever heard.

[@Binks129]

The Queen of Sevens He should learn to read first.

[@glanni]

His voice is amazing. The drama, the momentum, the melody. I had to listen to the reading parts multiple times because they were so haunting

[@alyssinclair8598]

I like how he gives quathe an accent

[@andrewcameron4277]

Quin for winds of winter

[@subutaynoyan5372]

Kraken is obviously Victarion, Dark Flame is Marwin, Lion is Tyrion, Griffin is Connington, Sun's Son is Quentyn Martell and Mummer's Dragon is young griff. This actually heralds that so-called Aegon Targaryen is a pretender.

[@zakariaali8864]

The perfumed seneschal is Varys

[@Tpespisa]

@@zakariaali8864 Exactly. So for whom is the prophecy pitching?!

[@ZakMason10]

Dark flame is surely Moqorro?

[@TheHatCollection]

It's too obvious for GRRM. I think Aegon may be legit - if not Rhaegar's son, then perhaps a bastard.

[@emyyyuu]

young griff being a blackfyre is ridiculous. aegon being alive was the most popular theory before 2011 😂😂😂 i'd call the mummer's dragon jon snow actually... he's not a targaryen, he's a stark. his father isn't rhaegar, it's ned (metaphorically), jon will always be a fake dragon because he's a wolf. the sun's son can also allude to young griff, he is elia martell's son after all.

[@glanni]

3:55 this part gives me the chills so hard omg! 2:36 is great too! I love the momentum in your voice

[@davef4755]

quaithe is such an interesting character :)

[@zm4522]

Dave F The mask indicates that we know the character

[@Chris_Stanley007]

@@zm4522 I hope we find out on the show who she is.

[@Tpespisa]

@@Chris_Stanley007 It seems as if she was another dead end. GRRM probably didn't tell D&D anything about her.

[@alexgroot2508]

I'd like to add to this theory: "He lifted his eyes and saw clear across the narrow sea, to the Free Cities and the green Dothraki sea and beyond, to Vaes Dothrak under its mountain, to the fabled lands of the Jade Sea, to Asshai by the Shadow, where dragons stirred beneath the sunrise." Seeing as the rest of this vision seems to be more or less vision through space, not time, we can infer that Bran viewing dragons stirring beneath the sunrise in Asshai by the shadow is happening as he sees it. I don't think the Ice side of the fight had that much of a head start, the dragons are there, just not where they need to be. Perhaps this is what Asshai has been trying to do since Valyria: get people to master dragons so they can be moved Westward, so they might not just face down the threats of the Grey Waste (presuming that it parallels the lands of always winter), but also fight the ice beyond the wall. However there's no reason to assume dragons would fight this battle unless tamed, hence Asshai's attempts to spread the art and move dragons to the west. Dragon's are powerful pieces, probably more so than individual white walkers, but the pieces are dificult to move and right now, not at the place where they are needed. Thoughts?

[@armandogutierrez473]

During that vision Bran sees Ser Robert Strong, so we can assume he's seeing through time as well; it probably means that Dany will indeed travel to Asshai.

[@parikshitrao4208]

It's actually kinda indicated that Egg was fed up with the nobility trying to block any kind of reform that he implimented. His obssion with dragon's was basically him trying to deus ex machina the seven kingdom's.

[@dcox5555]

You sir, are the best narrator and GOT Theologian on the planet! I would love to read some original works of yours! I know you have written something! You are far too skilled in breaking down Mythos, to have not. Bravo sir simply fantastic Analysis!

[@Threeleaves_artwork]

You made me want to read the books

[@zakariaali8864]

Believe me, you should

[@kawh8719]

wow, the ever clash of ice and fire, struggling against each-other, maintaining balance. That's the story right there. The story that most don't see but is plain as day. Helps put the whole series in a different light! Along w/ lessons for each of us in life.

[@Macconator2010]

So maybe Aerys trying to burn King's Landing was a mass blood sacrifice attempt to hatch a dragon. Dragon eggs in King's Landing confirmed?

[@wafflingmean4477]

Maybe in a similar sense to how people believe Rhaego's life was switched with one of the dragons, Aerys was going to switch his own? Perhaps dragon eggs would have hatched and one of them would have been the very soul of Aerys?

[@theapexsurvivor9538]

Well, they did keep dragons in breeding pits and not all of the eggs hatched, so I wouldn't be surprised to learn that they have a vault filled with them somewhere below the city...

[@arawn1061]

Well aerys wanted to be a dragon

[@The-bi5ry]

Now I’m thinking how awesome it would be if the last book consists of Cersei burning kings landing with wildfire, sacrificing the people and as the city engulfs in flames, thousands of baby dragons bursts out into the sky.

[@Kunumbah1]

@@The-bi5ry Nah that would undermine the significance of Danny’s dragons.

[@megren1207]

I don’t know why but I always think Quaithe is genuinely trying to protect and guide Daenerys. Red Priests give off a stronger evil vibe.

[@kristymckinney7564]

Love this video! It may be my favorite ASOIAF explanation to date; very philosophical/poststructural. Well done.

[@tomeboaventura9054]

I remember your early videos. You've improved a lot. Keep going at it, your style is unique.

[@TammyNewmanArt]

Yay your back! Missed your videos

[@fvriovs5502]

You take an interesting topic like ASoIaF and make it so much more intriguing with your theories and explanations.

[@Gekokujo76]

Consistently great, IOIAF! Quaithe knows as much as anybody about what is going on....I have to imagine every bit as much as Marwin, Bloodraven, or Howland Reed. I know why she is used so sparingly, but that is precisely what makes her such a great character and worthy of speculation.

[@mark-angelofamularcano237]

Why isn't Asshai more fleshed out in tv? It just makes GoT a political/historical fiction with a medieval skin plus dragons and zombies. It's mystique on TV is fading, quickly.

[@huseyinusta9330]

bc they focus on the jon x deanerys romance thing, so ppl who still call deanerys khalessi and ppl who call jon daddy, are satisfied.

[@lbentosoares4]

Man, Im pretty sure Dany and Jon will "end up" together in the books, only not in the way the series is portraying it... They roles are meant to to cross either as enemies of allies...The true balance is not fire or ice (ying or yang) winning, but both cooperating and accepting eachother's roles within the world...

[@64chrom]

simple answer not enough screentime

[@post-leftluddite]

because it's not really focused on in the books either, and even GRRM said that there will NOT be a POV character/chapter ever taking place in Asshai

[@cyanide_lollipop3264]

It's called "budget". There's only so much they could cram into the TV show, given the massive depth and detail in the book series.

[@zacharyvickers1997]

Once again, incredible video. You are the man! Love how you concluded with the thought on balance. Spot on.

[@carriezen8499]

Excellent video!! Best I've seen on Asshai by the Shadow and Quaithe!! I'm really hoping for new to series to be either Dawn Age - Long Night or Asshai, Shadow lands and vorigin of dragons.

[@joshuaredfearn6537]

I rarely comment either but this video really impressed me- great contextualization- great reading/voice. Thanks so much!

[@christopherbarber5283]

This has got to be your best video my friend. Well done.

[@shanabaker6197]

Lacquer is pronounced lacker.

[@mysticnovelbro]

I resisted that urge with every fibre of my being lol

[@IrishEagIe]

Not, everywhere.

[@Ash-cb2li]

Shana Baker I just looked it up and you’re right but I’ve never heard any one say it like that. I live in England and people say something along the lines of le-cure

[@Kevin-cm5kc]

Jesus is that what he was going for? I kept wondering why Quaithe had booze smeared all over her mask

[@mariesia0525]

Exactly, sounds like he's saying it like the word liqueur. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought it. 😂

[@donesitackacom]

speechless, you are amazing, you gave me goosebumps multiple times

[@no-one3181]

I never comment on anyone's videos, but I must say, you produce the most informative and best quality stuff. My only problem is that you don't make enough or make them fast enough. Your voice is so relaxing, that I watch them all the time......but I need more. I also love your Stephen King stuff and wondered if you would consider doing a few on the Dark Tower series of books (as the film is coming out soon and there aren't any good reviews on youtube about them)? Keep up the good work Quinn and take care.

[@SSJ4Oman]

Love your channel my guy. You and lml are killing it

[@jamesw823]

This video, visually, is edited so beautifully!

[@Espinozaize]

I honestly feel- Talking about the intent of the books here- not the show. That this tale is Loftcraftian in more ways than one. In Lovecrafts books it is almost always the case that some gifted individual like in say: At the Mountains of Madness, learns some ancient truth about a creature &/or culture existing millions of years ago. In this case the elder things that used to live on Antarctica before the tectonic plates shifted it to the bottom of the planet. They had starfish heads, wings, gills, six pairs of tentacle like limbs & tails like fish. Thus they could move equally well on earth, in the sea & in the air. Point being in relation to this video. As Dr. William Dyer learns more & more about these creatures via first their fossilised corpses & then he discovers their gigant cities built in the mountains of Antarctica...Now seemingly lifeless & covered in ice. All through this story it is hinted that Dyer will learn some great truth from this that will help humanity to overcome a similar fate & improve themselves. What he finds at the bottom of the ruined imperial cities is the Shoggoth. The amoebic slave race of the Elder things. That rebelled & destroyed them. Wingless, limbless & just directed by a collective mind fuled by hate towards the elder things that had comitted so much cruelty towards them. Yet as is the case in all Loftcraftian lore...The final realisation of Dyer is that these creatures, much like humanity, were mere puppets of forces darker, more cruel & chaotic than the human mind can comprehend. That in the end this is not a tale of good Vs. Evil...This is a story of the foolish arrogance of man to think that he matters at all or that he can have any impact on anything. Both the lords of Ice & of Fire may come to this realisation when they go by the shadow to Asshai 4:55 "Her mask is made of starlight" & we all know what happens when the stars come right"

[@Creationsofmyown]

How do you know you aren't leading the story to Lovecraftian themes?

[@dutchvanderlinde5004]

I enjoy listening to your videos as I play the ck2 Game of thrones mod; when you describe the events and mechanics of this incredible world it makes me see how the reign of Kings is so inconsequential to the world in the grand scheme of things as far as magic is concerned.

[@StefanNemanja1985]

your getting big time bro! keep up the good work! we're rootin for you

[@blkjem21]

Goddamn, that was moving. Your voice is so mesmerizing and tranquil. Keep the video's coming.

[@Creationsofmyown]

It's a shame he uses it to bury the sorts of leaps in logic that have me questioning my subscription.

[@blkjem21]

Lol... I don't agree with all his theories, but you have to admit he puts alot of work into it.

[@inthedriversseat928]

I love your videos! Your dramatic tone and the music is just perfect. I wonder if Georgey boy is trying to suggest to us that although "ice" and "fire" are the two classical elements we predominantly see, "air" and "earth" are also in play. The "spirits of the air" and the earth itself having the ability to be moved/changed would explain a lot. The whole breaking of the arm of Dorne story is easily explained, as is the mystery of how young Ned brought down the ToJ on their own, how Greywater Watch is able to move around. I'm sure there are far more examples, but I feel like this could be something...

[@inthedriversseat928]

Just thought: I think we actually know there are areomancers and pyromancers in Asshai, so why not aquamancers (surely at least) and terramancers (I think it's a thing)? Shadowbinders to me seem like they use a combination of aeromancy and possibly terramancy, i.e. causing shadows to appear on walls for example.

[@markwalton]

Complex storyline made comprehensible, thank you. You have shown me new wrinkles to mull over.

[@robp4074]

Fell asleep listening to your calm soothing tone, liked anyway, will finish watching later

[@anarchist_parable]

God, Dan & Dave violated this story in such a huge way.

[@talebtb2461]

I think Quaithe is Shiera Seastar. Too many simularities: relation with stars, purple eyes, Shiera lived during the Blackfyre Rebellions which is before The Tragedy of Summerhall and Aery's time so she might have influenced Aegon V and Aerys II. Plus it would be cool if Shiera and Bloodraven are respectively the servants of Ice and Fire making them rivals, considering they were lovers .

[@Deneris]

Shiera didn't have purple eyes though. She had heterochromia - one blue and one green eye.

[@robswitzer8334]

Ok Green Hand

[@coqui9879]

taleb tb that’s far from too many lol. That’s 2. And ppl have proved one of them (eye color) false, so all your theory is based on is that they both have been related to stars and you want it to be true. Not exactly concrete.

[@lucylestat9698]

Awesome vid! I've been thinking about this subject and to me the one common currency of power in Planetos is blood. It seems to me that if there is a grand game as you put it, these two entities compete for blood or life force of the inhabitants of this world. We know that the people who die in front of weirwood trees get absorbed by them (by the great other?) and people who are burnt get absorbed by Rhllorr. White Walkers and Dragons may be just a super unit for collecting mass sacrifices and therefore power.

[@knowfuturejay22]

You're the best on KZbin. You speak like you're reading off a page.

[@gardengirlnc]

Fantastic as always! I am glad you are back.

[@m1964e]

I have to agree. Awesome reading voice. Great video as well! That is an Epic combination.

[@raylast3873]

But if she wanted to help Daenerys, she could make herself a lot clearer and thus be more helpful...

[@zm4522]

Ray Last Maybe she is a time traveler and can’t say thing vividly

[@maritasue5067]

In fantasy worlds it’s always against magical laws for prophetic people to speak in plain words. She’d probably burst into flames or freeze into an ice pillar if she did. Not her fault 😉

[@jtamiing559]

id be less interesting

[@Yashi1134]

She does a raw reading, unlike Melisandre who interprets things herself and can be mistaken. By saying things as she sees them, Quaithe leaves it to Dany to interpret

[@raylast3873]

themiserableones yeah, but, this doesn‘t really help anyone much, since it‘s almost impossible to reliably interpret.

[@TheAliRatedr]

Best voice of telling theories dark in origin. Fantasy or reality. There's something good about your voice that I cannot fathom. Theories are well constructed. You know what you do. 🤩

[@21stcenturyafropolitan]

Welcome back my man. Always refreshing your page to see if there is a new video. Great episode by the way. More please...

[@cherzi657]

Dude...the narration was on point!!!

[@punch6515]

I always told myself that the targeryans were not born mad But grew mad because of something This explains it,hope this dialectical theory of opposing forces comes true

[@ahobbitstail7022]

Lacquer LAK - CURR Otherwise, you're great! I hope you can do audiobooks at some point, I'd buy them.

[@CJusticeHappen21]

There are three champions. One of Fire (Dany) One of Ice (Bran) One of Ice and Fire (Jon) And that is the game. But just because only two teams are playing doesn't mean that there are not others. Euron comes, like a streaker on the pitch.

[@samothemano]

You should totally be the voice on the audio books. You’re awesome!

[@mariesia0525]

He's good at narration but must work on better accents first.

[@post-leftluddite]

Too bad GRRM has already said that we will not have a POV Chapter/Character in Asshai in the book series....which raises a question that comes to mind with many of IdeasofIceandFire's videos....he proposes so many theories that will NEVER even have a chance to be proven right or wrong, which makes me wonder why he postulates on them so much...don't get me wrong, I've wondered about Asshai, about the Five Forts, but, GRRM has said in an interview that his world, Planetos, is like an iceberg when compared to Tolkien's in that GRRM's hints at a lot of in depth history and established fact, but in reality, it's an illusion, and really (like an iceberg) the reader only sees 10% above the surface...I just think a lot of people are looking way, way too deeply at things outside the main story and the reality is that GRRM isn't even thinking about the content that so many of these youtube theories are based on.

[@malafakka8530]

That's the impression that I also got, but at least some theories are intriguing and interesting to hear. However, I only read them in small doses because the more I read them (or in this case watch) the more I think that people are theorizing too much about things that might never get an answer.

[@TheMrKelloggs]

he said we won't have characters physcially going there. this doesn't rule out mellisandre flashbacks or bran traveling to asshai with bloodraven, or glass candles.

[@eric2500]

Aerys wanted to become a dragon, a bit like Euron trying to become a new god, which he likely thinks of a Kraken like. Ice and Fire cancel, with any luck, and Earth and Balance talk over and rule for several centuries - *that is, if Bran both learns enough from Bloodraven but also breaks free of him soon enough to retain at least some of his humanity.*

[@jjvoity7797]

Good job. When you're on your game you're as good a GOT vlogger as there is.

[@Homar30]

Impresiv work. Well done Ser!

[@searinglight6119]

I usually love watching Preston Jacob's take on ASoIaF with his tin-foily perspective on everything and his theories about the post-apocalyptic setting or the ideas about genetics. But at the same time I absolutely love your more mystical point of view on the story! (and of course the bit of book-snobbery 😏) You guys should definitely consider making a collaboration at some point!

[@darklywhite9017]

You should narrate all the books your work is just too good.

[@amandaviola_]

beautifully done as always

[@adibsapida]

Great video and excellent narration.

[@nickkoch3467]

All your videos are great and original! Unlike other GOT tubers....

[@i2amasecrettarg737]

Thrilled to see this! Always top-notch 👍

[@angelsindolly]

I just found your channel but I'm loving your videos! So well rounded and articulate. I would like to say,some of the volume difference between when your narrating and when your quoting the books,some times the transitions are a bit harsh on the ear. Otherwise I'm loving your work!

[@plantemor]

I wish you would narrate all the books. Your acting is so good.

[@lwilliams7448]

Incredible as usual.

[@oldreddragon1579]

Question is, was Quaithe in Qarth accidentally at the right time or on purpose fam?

[@guitardudeguy3139]

Bloodraven was trying to warn Aerys of the Night King and the undead Army growing under his power. He was telling him in dreams and visions how to defeat them. Burn them all..Aerys in his paranoia was going mad by these dreams and was misunderstanding them. Aerys ..the Mad King. Rhaegar understood what was going on. He knew of the impending Winter to come. He was desperate to find a way to fulfill the prophecy. The song of ice and fire is the key. Jon and Dany , Rhaegar and Lyanna. Ice/fire. The accidental blood ritual performed by Dany is what hatched the dragon eggs. The combination of sacrifice was the recipe for her to become the Mother of Dragons..3 deaths for 3 lives. Jon is ice and fire incarnate being half Stark and half Targaryan. I don't know what will happen next. We need the book Winds of Winter...

[@Deneris]

Rhaegar found the prophesy of The Prince that was Promised and initially believed he was the subject of it. Later he thought his son Aegon was the one (he says as much in Dany's vision in the House of the Undying). He was wrong, of course, because Dany is the PTWP. He thought his children were to be Aegon, Rhaenys and Visenya reborn - he already had Aegon and Rhaenys, he needed a Visenya, the warrior-queen. Lyanna herself caught his eye because he figured out she was the Knight of the Laughing Tree and that made her a good candidate to be the mother of his Visenya (since Elia wouldn't be able to have more children). But instead Jon was born. I do think Dany, Jon and Tyrion each represent one of the PTWP/Azor Ahai/The Last Hero prophesies (which could also be three different versions of the same thing). They are the three heads of the dragon, who will lead humanity in the war with the Others.

[@askani21]

Duuuuude I love your videos so much.

[@chewyskywalker6166]

Well thought-out

[@juleselizabeth]

Excellent! I love your videos! 👍🏻

[@karenjuhlke5821]

Love your videos!

[@nmd1120]

Meanwhile the show forgot about Quathe after season 2...

[@ahthatshot7781]

And they forgot years of build up to the White Walkers in season 8.

[@samsmom1491]

I wonder if Daenyris isn't a dragon herself. Interesting to see how the upcoming and long-awaited book will differ from the final season. HBO never brought in the blue-haired lad to the series and I feel he will have an important roll to play in the book. The suspense is killing me!

[@Palafico3]

Stygai and H.P.'s R'lyeh have similarities but are not the exact same, the name more references the dark sorcerer-country of Stygia from the Conan the Barbarian series. It is said to be the origin place of humanity west of Egypt, which had fallen to the worship the dark god Set, who was the blasphemous Egyptian god of Night that ate Ra every evening. But there are definitely alot of references to Cthulu and Nyrolethotep when it comes to the Shadow and Stygai, especially when you consider the Bloodstone Emperor who worshiped an alien meteor and thus became an insane sorcerer-lord.

[@EvieDragonborn]

When you said Quiathe is similar to Bloodrven I thought right away that Quiathe is definitely SHiera Seastar

[@momchilhlebarov289]

My theory is that Quaithe is actually trying to help Danny here by trying to aid her quest to become Queen. Then and only then fire can beat Ice so to speak. However in the grand scheme of things we don't know who Quaithe is a messenger of. Chtulhu? The Dark one? Whatever the name of this Lovecraftian god is.. I feel it needs both sides weakend or one actually destroyed before it takes its next move. Maybe in order to rule over the known and unknown world again it needs the dragons for some purpose. Damn ASOIAF is so intriguing even after 13 years with no books.

[@AankerStoneshield]

Great video, but haha, lost it when the Kerbal Space Program space theme came on :P

[@watchouttheangel]

OMG you are absolutely right. Even if it wasn't in GRRM ' mind, which I find difficult not to be. Many thanks!

[@mediocremaiden8883]

Boy, Our Great-Great Grandchildren are gonna super hyped when the Winds of Winter come out and the final book. I Gues we'll just have to friendly haunt them until then??

[@t1f2b30]

Nice work!

[@briantully28]

I love how you say shadow

[@Qwasboy]

You really should write dude, that was beautiful

[@hewertondias3771]

Quaithe = Shiera Seastar

[@Macconator2010]

Hewerton Dias Nah Mel bro

[@Kazekoge101]

That doesn't mean she isn't influenced by the shadow "people"

[@tomeboaventura9054]

mmn, but then she whould have heterochromia like Tyrion. There's no mention of that... and she would be 100+ years old but thats not farfetchd since bloodraven and Mel are really old.

[@christiancristof491]

That's a nice theory.

[@post-leftluddite]

Radio Westeros mentions that in their Melisandre episode, because they also believe that melisandre might be Shiera's (and blood Raven's) daughter

[@Bluehawk2008]

Blue-stained lips... is Pyat Pree's name an oblique reference to Piter De Vries, the mentat?

[@luciarosselini6199]

I love your voice it's so enchanting

[@6noelita]

Awsome (as usual)! Keep making stuff up!

[@polyemphis]

Thanks for the great vid.

[@sabinebirdsong929]

Interesting that there were two failed attempts (Aegon and Aerys) before the ultimately successful third (Danaerys) attempt in terms of Targaryens becoming obsessed with fire and dragons through what seems to be odd dreams. It seems to happen in threes when it comes to talks of dragons and births and great sacrifices.

[@eric2500]

Okay if dragons are natural/native to the shadow or even native to the 14 flames and other volcanic spots around this world, does that mean they are not evil magic induced human/wrym mutant crossbreeds?

[@mintbericrunche9437]

What do you think about the idea that Quaith is Shiera Seastar?

[@zakariaali8864]

That wouldn't make sense as that would put her on the same side as Bloodraven, given that the two loved each other. There are many theories about BR, but all of them either hint at or point to him having some form of connection to the Others. My theory is that Quaithe is Elissa Farman, a lesbian lover of Rhaena Targaryen who took a ship called the Sun Chaser and the ships of Ser Eustace and Norman Hightower sailed west from Oldtown to quech her thirst for adventure and see what lied west of the Sunset Sea. She arrived at three island some miles out to sea, which she named Aegon, Rhaenys and Visenya, but by the time they arrived there, Ser Norman and his ship Autumn moon had been lost to a storm and Ser Eustace's Lady Meredith had been damaged as well. Ser Eustace and his crew returned to Oldtown but Elissa continued west. Some years later, Corlys Velaryon was certain that he saw the Sun Chaser in Asshai. Since the people of Westeros are aware that the world is most likely round, it seems fair that she sailed to Asshai, as Euron Greyjoy (book Euron, not the stupid fuckboy in the show) most likely has as well, given that he said west from the Iron Islands, yet returned with tales and treasures from the ruins of Valyria (again, the book Valyria, not the BS show Valyris) and even claims to have been to Asshai. Another pont to mention would be that before Elissa rode out of Oldtown, the Targaryen royal family were alteady trying to arrest her as she had stolen THREE DRAGON EGGS from her lover Rhaena. These three could be the same three that ends up in Magister Illyrio's hands, which he gives to DAENERYS. This would also give her a more personal interest to see the three dragons be born into the world. If we are to assume that Elissa made it to Asshai, that would give the possibility that she's Quaithe. To understand further, let's look at the only other example to have done so. Euron Greyjoy in the books is a mysterious man shrouded in darkness and mystery. He rides a black ship with black sails called The Silence, manned by a crew of mutes. He has treasures from the ruins of Valyria, including Valyrian steel armour and daggers, gems and gold, and a mysterious horn that he claims can bind dragons to his will. This horn is blown in the Kingsmoot at Old Wyk. One of the mutes from The Silence blows the horn and burned from the inside, dying immediately. Euron is obsessed with magic. His lips are blue from the Shade of the Evening, the wine of the Quartheen warlocks. He's pbsessed with becoming a God and wishes to conquer Westeros with dragons that he binds to his will from the horn mention earlier. He's obsessed with becoming a god, which may be the reason behind drinking Shade of the Evening (because t'know, House of the Undying, the Undying Ones etc.). He wears an eyepatch to cover his 'blood eye', a "black eye shining with malice". Red Priest Benerro preaches that Daenerys Targaryen stands in peril and that the dark eye has fallen upon her. After listening to Ser Jorah Mormont's translation, Tyrion Lannister realizes that the red priest speaks of an ancient prophecy which foretells the coming of a hero to deliver the world from darkness. It is unknown if this is the prince that was promised. Sailing on the Selaesori Qhoran, the red priest Moqorro warns Tyrion of something with one black eye which is seeking Daenerys, which we can infer is EURON seeing as he sent Victarion to Meereen with his magic horn to BIND HER DRAGONS TO HIS WILL. Clearly, something changed in Euron after he sailed west from the Iron Islands, which may have also happened to Elissa, except differently. My theory is that she sailed to Asshai and, with her three dragon eggs, went into the shadowlands to quech her curiosity and thirst for adventure. There, she comes across old magic and an ancient order that probably taught the first Valyrians their magic and dragon-binding, which she joins. She then learns their deep and ancient magic, after which she is sent west in order to find Daenerys and indirectly sends her the three dragon eggs through Illyrio. She is ordered to do so as she is more familiar with the current state of the world and has a more vested interest to see the dragons be born. She guides Daenerys and tries to send her to Asshai so that she may learn more magic, with which she could dominate the world with FIRE AND BLOOD, ushering in a new age of fire. This order could also be linked to the Church of Rh'llor, as all of those in the church who can weild fire magic (Melisandre, Kinvara etc.) have ties to Asshai and the Shadowlands and all seem much older than they let on. This s clear with Melisandre as she gives birth to a FUCKING SHADOW and, when she removes her necklace, is an OLD GRANNY. This could be their puppet force in the world of men, as the Others could be for a more sinister existence, but that's a whole separate theory. The motive behind all of this leads me to another theory about there being two distinct centres of magic, one of ice and the other of fire. The old centres were once The Lands of Always Winter, far beyond the lands beyond the wall, and the Lands of Always Summer, an area of land near the Freehold. It would make sense then for an order of fire magic weilders to be interested in Valyrians due to this one aspect, as their magic would probably be stronger in such an area. It might also be why no men would set foot in the lands beyond those ruled by the Thenns as the magic of old powers (i.e: the Others) would be stronger here. This all give Elissa Farman a greater likelihood of being Quaithe and a reason to approach Daenerys the way she does.

[@misterfitzgerald]

Looks like he thinks she’s Ashara, since he keeps using that drawing with the purple eyes.

[@mattrozzel2997]

I don't know if you read manga but I'd love to see some videos from you on Berserk

[@edwinrodriguez1812]

Stygai comes from a Conan story. Howard not Lovecraft. Easy mistake since they borrowed from each other so much. Great theory

[@Luke-fu5co]

I definitely need to get into the books, i didnt know why people were so annoyed at Quaithe not being in the show proper, but now i do shes cool as fuck dude

[@arturleperoke3205]

Very cool! That is unfortunately(or fortunately?) a level GRRM will never outright confirm

[@eric2500]

I am starting to think that the "directions" are metaphor at this point in the storytelling, because there was once a five year gap, and now there is not one, but might be heading east and north from her present location to the Mother of Mountains where she'll get her Dothraki army. Then she'll go West. Most of all I think Quaithe, though a manipulator, could be as self deceived as any of the other characters.

[@khaleesiamde6215]

Q is either a Stygai'i or Shiera. Either makes sense, but we'll likely never have confirmation on Danny's prophet.

[@poorboy2772]

I finally understand AGOT. Bran is the real greenseer that the Others have been trying to get to. Craster was sending them babies but they were turned into Others, the Others in the story do not have a single leader - they are a hive mind and it if its true that only humans / cotf can be greenseers, then that means they need to mind control new greenseers to try to get ahead in the game. The fite side can keep themselves alive with spells but the cotf can only prolonge life.

[@robertadopt_dont_shop7876]

You are very smart, I really like your videos.

[@enjoisk8ing37]

you need to be voicing the audio books fr!

[@eaglessixersfankeepingitre3247]

I think that Quaithe is in league with the Bloodstone emperor, and is trying to lure Danny to the Church of the Starry Wisdom. That is why she wants her to go to Asshai.

[@p3pp3rm4n92]

I just understood the mummers dragon. Geez. This is crazy

[@ramonalejandrosuare]

Terrific video.

[@davidvidmar3736]

I have to dissagree at the part when you said that the Others (i. e. Ice) had a headstart before the dragons (i.e. Fire). Who said that dragons had really dissapeared? Sure, the book and the series (but let's stick to the book because the series explains things differently (and I cannot stand the TV series from season 5 onwards.)) want us to believe that Daenerys brought magic back to the world, but really it had always existed. Maybe both the Others and Dragons existed all through time but were so disconected with the world that it was impossible to notice them. Look at the 17. chapter of a Game of Thrones (Bran III). In this chapter, (which is WAY before Daenerys' dragons are born) Bran can see the entire realm and beyond. He goes to the farthest corners of the world and sees the city of Asshai. There, he seen dragons stirring in the Shadow Lands. ''In Winterfell he sees the inhabitants going about their work and sees the heart tree in the godswood looking back at him. Bran sees his mother contemplating a blood-stained knife aboard a ship sailing on the Narrow Sea, and his father pleading with the King near the Trident. He sees Sansa crying herself to sleep and Arya holding her secrets in her heart. All around his family Bran sees shadows: One as dark as ash with the terrible face of a hound and another in armour as golden and beautiful as the sun. Over them all looms a giant armoured in stone, but with only darkness and black blood behind its visor. In the far east, Bran sees dragons stirring in the fabled Shadow Lands. Bran turns north to the Wall, where he sees Jon sleeping alone and growing cold and hard. Then Bran looks beyond the Wall, and beyond the curtain of light at the edge of the world, into what he calls the "heart of winter". What he sees there makes him cry. The crow tells Bran that now he knows why he must live: because winter is coming.'' - copied from A Wiki of Ice and Fire. This chapter proves that Daenerys did not bring magic back to the world as the dragons had been active in the Shadow Lands for quite some time. The comet must have signalised something entirely different and I personally believe that it has something to do with Bran. But that is just my theory. By the way, your videos are amazing, informative and of really high quality. And please don't think that I want to attack your theory, I just want to add my own ideas into the mist. Keep up the good work.

[@ourmadness6238]

You may have right, but don't forget the part of the books when Tyrion is thinking that Pyromancer Hallyne and the Alchemists are trying to fool him by giving him fake wildfire, but Hallyne says that after the last dragon died, making wildfire became harder and it did take more time to produce it. However, it suddenly became easier to produce it, just right after the 3 dragons were born. I tought the same too, that around the world were many dragons "hiding", even the Cannibal and Sheepstealer might been able to live an unknown amount of years after they dissapeared. If there were any other dragons living before Dany hatched hers, the Guild of Alchemists might be a part of a far bigger conspiration in many ways.