Quran manuscript expert Dr Marijn van Putten explains the scribal mistakes in the 4 Uthmanic codices

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From Medianan archetype the Basran copy was made introducing 13 scribal mistakes. From the Basran the Kufan copy was made copying all the 13 Basran scribal mistakes and introducing 6 more.
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[@BenM61]

لقد حقّ القول على هاؤلاء الذين يشكّكون في القرآن و كتاب الله و يدّعون العلم: لو كلُّ كلبٍ عوى ألقمتُه حجرًا لأصبح الصخرُ مثقالاً بدينارِ شاعر مجهول. أشهد أنّ لا إله إلّى الله و أشهد أنّ محمّدا رسول الله. و الحمد لله على نعمة الإسلام

[@ABDVL01]

Im definitely using that example 😁👌🏻

[@TheGuiltyGuys]

anti-islam watchers be watching and slowly realizing this proves the Islamic traditional narrative and claims about the Quran 🤣🤣🤣

[@ayakaayaka2296]

Thank you ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@inquisitivemind007]

Hythem Sidky did one aswell kzbin.info/www/bejne/emXLhadsjNCbmc0

[@richardokeefe7410]

This is a bit misleading around 13:50ish. You can quite easily end up with a single "fixed" text where there were multiple archetypes. We see this in genetics whenever an allele is "fixed" by genetic drift or selection. And indeed the allele that is fixed need not have been in the original population, but may be a mutant that spread. So the claim "could ONLY have happened" is WAY TOO strong, logically and empirically. And we have evidence from the oldest surviving texts of copies that disagreed with the official text being post-production edited to conform. The rest of such post-production editing is a text which had two archetypes.-

[@jusefbelgium3165]

Where can we find the translation of the palmiset?

[@inquisitivemind007]

bible-quran.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Sadeghi-Goudarzi-sana-Origins-of-the-Quran.pdf

[@yasminakhelifi8327]

Well, I will write a story in Chinese, but I do not know the Chinese language. Will a Google translation work? Will it be beautiful? Will the Chinese like it?

[@inquisitivemind007]

Marijn van Putten knows Arabic

[@yasminakhelifi8327]

@@inquisitivemind007 i dont think that . Because , i am arabic teatcher

[@yasminakhelifi8327]

@@inquisitivemind007 Sights are not blinded, but hearts are blinded. The difference between handwriting and cursive writing

[@inquisitivemind007]

@@yasminakhelifi8327 then you should tell this Islamic scholar that as he agrees with Marijn x.com/ShAmmarKhatib1?t=cIBKKgRdmKWfy5opHXCRVw&s=09

[@stephenconnolly1830]

​​@@inquisitivemind007- Dr van Putten does know Arabic, but not sufficiently to meet the challenge set by the Qur'an to compose something like it without committing plagiarism, of course. Which is why these efforts to investigate the preservation of the Qur'an are kind of interesting but totally irrelevant. But that's often true of scholarship and academia.

[@notanemoprog]

Very very interesting! Thanks for the upload

[@inquisitivemind007]

Hythem Sidky did one aswell kzbin.info/www/bejne/emXLhadsjNCbmc0

[@yasminakhelifi8327]

We don't know how you think. If you were an Arab, you would realize the beauty and miracle of the Qur’an. How can an orphan who did not go to school and live in pre-Islamic times? His people worshiped idols, and their lives were difficult. How was it possible for him to write a book that contains a law that is suitable for every time and place... Can you tell me about prophets that you have not heard of? If it was not a revelation from God... God chose messengers from the Jews, then they rejected and disbelieved, then He sent Jesus, peace be upon him, to them, and then they persecuted him. And they distorted the sacred heavenly books. After that, he changed the language and made it Arabic so that you would not be able to corrupt it as you are doing now... I hope that God will guide you.

[@Speakers154]

The content is great. It is a pity the audio is so bad.

[@inquisitivemind007]

Hythem Sidky did one aswell kzbin.info/www/bejne/emXLhadsjNCbmc0

[@chrisazure1624]

@@inquisitivemind007 Softing the recording environment with fabric, cardboard or foam would help with the echo (unless there are two microphones picking up the recording).

[@inquisitivemind007]

​@chrisazure1624 here is a better sound quality version kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5XZnHZ9i7B8mMksi=siOdgj4yXp-f7rBY

[@NejiBHTahar]

This means nothing but the Quran and the message it carries is there intact. The presentation has nothing to do with the KZbin evil title. The variations in Sanaa manuscript - a companion copy or just a copy used for teaching- shows are insignificant and the Madina of the Prophet remains the reference to all other cities and that is why the owner-called companion C- accepted to reorder the surats according to the Medina’s copy and ignore the non significant variations s/he has is her/his copy. Also, the companions committee did nothing but create more copies of the existing and already written text as the Quran recorded that in Surat الطور (chapter 52, verse 2&3 and 32-33) وَكِتَابٍ مَّسْطُورٍ فِي رَقٍّ مَّنشُورٍ And the Book written In an outstretched fine parchment, ‏and its symmetry in the second half of the same Surat ‎أَمْ يَقُولُونَ تَقَوَّلَهُ ۚ بَل لَّا يُؤْمِنُونَ ‎فَلْيَأْتُوا بِحَدِيثٍ مِّثْلِهِ إِن كَانُوا صَادِقِينَ Or do they say: He has forged it. Nay! they do not believe. Then let them bring an announcement like it if they are truthful The symmetrical structure of all Quranic Surats was just discovered recently, not known by the companions or Muslim scholars of later centuries, hence the impossibility to maintain something you are not aware of if the text was collected randomly. Therefore the Quran was written at the time of the Prophet-PBUH- and the narration regarding the time of Uthman is nothing but the initiation of a mass production of the written text, memorized totally by at least thousands of people & partially by millions, and being used daily in the five daily prayers where it has to be recited loudly in 3 of the 5 prayers. The Quran is also entirely recited loudly during the month of Ramadan since the time of Omar (the second Khalif). Therefore unless Uthman has to burn the whole Umma he will not be able to unify it around a different Quran other than the one already used and well established.

[@bxpe6626]

i noticed that too but fortunately the dr shows that what your saying is correct

[@nazhasan428]

I am sure you know that why Othman decide to compile. It is because of variation in the recitation among muslim coming from different part of locality. The differences must be very significant until Othman decide to compile it. What we do not know is whether quran pre-othmanic era was similar to post othmanic era unless we have a quran compiled by Abu Bakar and passed it to her daughter Hafsa. The problem is Othman burn all other souces. In term of memorization, similar problem exist i.e quran memorize before othman vs post othmanic memorization. Due to variation in recitation noted prior to othman, most likely quran memorized before othman was also different with post othmanic memorization. Taking also consideration of variation in Ibn Masood quran and unfortunately, he was not in the team who compile the quran by Othman, which raised the suspicion. Some claim that the variation was due to ahruf or qiraat but this just an assumption without objective evidences. In conclusion, we know post othmanic quran was well preserved but we do not know what was pre othmanic quran and what was quran during Muhammad. There was a 20 years gap. Quran kept by Hafsa is critical but we do not have that materials, which raised another suspicion of why such important evidence was not preserved.

[@jawhardawood7667]

An excellent answer. May Allah bless you.

[@KefasFX]

​@@nazhasan428 There is no doubt whatsoever, the Hafsah Quran and the Ustmanic Quran were written and led by the same writer, Zaid bin Thabit.

[@sasa_sasa_sasa230]

Ooo shut up.lier, sana is much different from any of today 30 qiraets and stop copy paste dawah script and lies.

[@user-pk9yx6hy9z]

What you did not say is that Othman, the third caliph, was a contemporary of the Prophet and was one of the closest companions to him and was one of the writers of the Qur’anic revelation. When the Qur’an was revealed as a revelation to the Prophet, there was a book of revelation next to it, which they copied in written form and then the memorizers of the Qur’an preserved it. Among those who were writing down the Qur’an immediately after its revelation were: Ali bin Abi Talib, Othman bin Affan, Abu Bakr Al-Siddiq, Omar bin Al-Khattab, Khaled bin Saeed bin Al-Aas, Amer bin Fuhaira, Al-Arqam bin Abi Al-Arqam, and Abu Salamah Abdullah bin Abdul-Assad Al-Makhzoumi. Jaafar bin Abi Talib, Hatib bin Amr, Al-Zubayr bin Al-Awwam, Talha bin Ubaidullah, and Abdullah bin Abi Bakr. Why will the Qur’an be unified after 200 years, as I said? Rather, Uthman collected it into one Qur’an because after the expansion of the Islamic conquests, some of the newcomers to Islam owned only parts of the Qur’an. Therefore, Othman decided to burn the incomplete parts and collect the parts into one Qur’an. As previously mentioned, Othman was a contemporary of the Prophet and was one of the writers of revelation and was one of those close to the Prophet. The Qur’an was compiled in one copy 18 years after the death of the Prophet. Someone who owned complete copies was like the first caliph, Abu Bakr. It is not as I said that the Qur’an was compiled after 200 years. If we take the manuscripts that were written on leather and kept in museums, we find the Topkabi Qur’an, or the Noble Qur’an, attributed to Uthman bin Affan. The copy is missing only two pages for verses 3 to 8 of Surat Al-Ma’idah, and verses 17 to 33 of Surat Al-Isra. Perhaps these two pages were missing as a result of restoration and binding work over the years. This copy is almost considered a complete copy, but it contains pages that are difficult or impossible to read due to... Its disappearance, and there is a spelling error in the Qur’an, such as some words in which a letter was added inadvertently. The oldest Qur’anic manuscript in the world was discovered in 2015 at the University of Birmingham. This manuscript was brought to the university by Hormuz Mengna, known as Alphonse Mengna (1878-1937), a Chaldean theologian, researcher, and orientalist. This manuscript includes two pages from the Holy Qur’an, from Surahs Al-Kahf and Taha, written in the Hijazi script. Manuscript experts used radiocarbon examination and found that it was about 1,370 years old. Scientists concluded that the manuscript was written between 568 and 645 AD. The mission of the Messenger, may God bless him and grant him peace, was between the years 610 and 632 AD. This means that the manuscript was written by a person who was a contemporary of the Prophet Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace, and lived with him, or during 70 years of the mission at the latest. This makes it one of the oldest copies of the Qur’an in the world. The manuscript is part of the Mingana Collection of Middle Eastern Manuscripts, held by the university's Cadbury Research Library. Professor David Thomas, Professor of Religions at the University of Birmingham, told The Wall Street Journal that the Qur’anic manuscripts, especially those owned by the University of Birmingham, which are the oldest in the entire world, are conclusive evidence that the Qur’an in its current version is the same. Which was circulated and preserved by the companions of the Prophet Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace, and it was not subject to distortion

[@OksintasObones]

Utter nonsense what ye saying makes no logic

[@Karakta]

A nice little study. Perfect to go along with a capuccino before getting back to serious stuff.

[@inquisitivemind007]

Hythem Sidky did one aswell kzbin.info/www/bejne/emXLhadsjNCbmc0

[@Peter-xf9jy]

which means neither the quran of Mohamet nor any other (harf) of the pre-uthmanic variants has been preserved (if we consider the sanaa subtext as a scribal exercise hhh). iow. the alleged 7 ahruf never existed or went lost.

[@obaidulhaque7687]

7 azurf was #umayyad concoction , to stablished their lie and mixing with biblical with quran .

[@obaidulhaque7687]

Prophet Moh SA was compile it ( Quran ) , and passed it to his companion ... Abubakr or so on

[@MohammadFaisalSaleem]

Shows how ignorant you are.

[@abdulharis9390]

The audio has echoes

[@OksintasObones]

​@@obaidulhaque7687😂😂 when? Omar born in Syria Ali in Basra where did they meet?

[@stopspammingman1746]

Comment for the algorithm.

[@almazchati4178]

This fellow is trying to milk spider.

[@rodjaibmanaleseg2264]

The Noble Qur’an is Genuinely Holy Scripture. The verbatim words of Allah, Divine speech… these people are trying their best to debunk it because these so called scholars aren’t believers at all they are atheists who are seeing the world without God.

[@elliot7205]

May Allah bless van putten

[@sajidkadri2623]

There are may but if, more research need, if the meaning did not change may be far shabha did not detailed information

[@ABDVL01]

What a nice scientist method to establish the preservation of the recitation of the Quran.

[@husnainkhalil2554]

​@@inquisitivemind007😂 don't be this dumb please - Arabic grammar is derived from the Qur'an, it doesn't precede it. The Qur'an is a book of literary techniques which uses language in unconventional ways to convey more meaning in less words i.e. depth and concision. The recitations are not dialectical, noone claimed this, the Qur'an was revealed in 7 ahruf which meant essentially that there were various ways of reciting certain parts of the Qur'an as dictated by the prophet, the recitations simply make use of different combinations of these various allowed recitations traced back to the prophet. Both you and Marjin have a weak understanding of the Islamic narrative.

[@Markussiemens658]

Bruh

[@inquisitivemind007]

Preservation of the recitation? You mean like this kzbin.info/www/bejne/amK5mHSLqLysn6csi=hGJLiga8gnjtHc74

[@hrargate]

Very strange how this PhD starts😅 1 he doesn’t understand the concept of Quran The meaning of “Quran “ The word Quran is Qarah means reciting So Quran is not dependent on written book, but on recitation. So this professor can make a simple test by let in recite the simplest and the complex surah with simple mistakes like Fetha to kisra or dummah. So the mistake will be revealed directly So the quran before Othman RA and after doesn’t make any sense 😅 So to study the Quran you need to purify your heart and soul first

[@cnav94]

good, so if Quran means recitations, so it would be correct to say that there 7 Qurans since Quran means recitations right ? for centuries Muslims have been claiming that there is just one Quran while there are 7 Qurans or 7 recitations, correct ?

[@danryan-we4uz]

@@cnav94 there is only one Quran. Go and research with an open mind and heart. You will be responsible for your own thoughts and decisions. Nobody will be wronged not even the size of a mustard seed

[@VictorPanteleimon]

​@@danryan-we4uzwhich one is the "one Quran"? How can 30 Qiraats = 1?

[@inquisitivemind007]

3.6 The Readings Are Intentionally Artificial As we have seen above, none of the readings make up any single consistent linguistic system, nor do they show a clear signal of any one dialect of Arabic. Instead, they are an mix of different dialectal forms, distributed in a way from which no obvious pattern can be deduced p81 of Quranic Arabic by Marijn van Putten

[@OksintasObones]

Qur'an is an Aramaic word meaning lectionary

[@Mohammed-nn3ts]

Quraan is a memorised text by confidential hundreds of muslims. For everyone who is really interested in finding weather the Quraan is the word of God or not. Get A copy of it in your own language and read and decide yourself.

[@inquisitivemind007]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJarpquuebFsfaM

[@karenthompson1337]

I feel it’s disingenuous to use the Birmingham folio and say it’s the Koran as it is parts of 3 stories the writers of the Koran (Umar? Abu Turab? Salman?) copy/pasted from ‘tales of the ancients’ so to speak. There are absolutely no edicts from Allah in the Birmingham folio, just ‘fairytales’ which had been around for centuries. I support the notion that the Birmingham folios are part of an old story book and were not part of the Koran when they were written on these pages. Because they appear to be early dated Islam is desperate for ‘proof’.

[@alfiras8604]

The Birmingham folios are part of a bigger codex named Arabe 328c, there are 16 additional folios. Experts suggest dating it to the late 1st century AH, and there are a number of Quranic manuscripts that can be dated this early or earlier that contain a large portion of the Quran.

[@karenthompson1337]

@@alfiras8604 true except the additional folios you mention are also extraneous stories and all are likely part of Christian lexionaries which were great in use at the time and not actual Korans.

[@Gaga4Parma]

@@karenthompson1337 Haha it's pretty funny to see Christians in the comment section of videos always propagating that Islam is plagiarism of Christianity and Judaism. Even if one is charitable and agree's to those theories...the response would be so what? And? It's basically one of the most meaningless argument to make and leads to absolutely no where.

[@Stardust475]

​@@karenthompson1337 There's a theory why these stories exist in the Quran along with Biblical characters, the eclectic fragmentary mix many have noticed. The theory is that it was originally 'taziye' material, Persian street drama (religious drama still performed today) to be played before an audience to teach them and entertain them The aim was to introduce people to the Bible, the Palestinian Syriac lectionary - Qeryana translated into Arabic. Similar to how the TV series 'The Chosen' aims to introduce and encourage viewers to pick up and read the Gospels. The problem became when Abbasids used the taziye materials as Holy Book and built hadith narrative fiction around it. Instead of following the actual Qeryana. Leo the Isaurian mentions Umar, Salman al Fars, Abu Turab as authors of this collection - furqan. Theory that Quran was taziye material linked below. kzbin.infoq1uutm-oc_8?si=uDkDHrIEYCUn9Vn7 A video that explains history. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGnQq4GrqblpgZYsi=U9lk-SyYnYc4qI7V Really good example below of modern taziye, it has evolved over centuries esp under Safavids and pre dates Islam. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eWHHfJKEh79rqacsi=uEKwe4Vhvroatxx7

[@pulsefirefitness]

lol nothing showed any mistakes. What? This is your best argument against the quran? The paper was wiped out and rewritten. hahahaha

[@inquisitivemind007]

Yes scribal mistakes that were made 1400 years ago and have been passed down and entered today's Quran like this one kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmPai6hth7x0aNk and kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5vZd6CKqtibeKs.

[@elliot7205]

Yes but they are not recited, the saudi kingdom have circled them red it's nothing new. But the Quran is in tact.

[@pulsefirefitness]

@@inquisitivemind007 That is your source? You seem incredibly lost to make stupid videos like this.

[@elliot7205]

@@inquisitivemind007 thank you for replying

[@koenboomsma92]

@@inquisitivemind007 They're dialects

[@hrargate]

How you compare Bible with Quran 😅 Come on 😅 Missing of Alif is not different meaning If you read now Arabic letter there is no Fatha and kisra or dummah so This man spend his time to tell this story?

[@inquisitivemind007]

I'm not a Christian

[@hrargate]

@@inquisitivemind007 who are you then? Reveal yourself

[@inquisitivemind007]

@@hrargate I'm an ex-Muslim

[@hrargate]

@@inquisitivemind007 hmmm may be you are trying to deceive people by saying “ I am ex Muslims “ What do you mean about it? If so tell me what you understand about Islam ????

[@inquisitivemind007]

​@hrargate I understand this: 3.6 The Readings Are Intentionally Artificial As we have seen above, none of the readings make up any single consistent linguistic system, nor do they show a clear signal of any one dialect of Arabic. Instead, they are an mix of different dialectal forms, distributed in a way from which no obvious pattern can be deduced p81 of Quranic Arabic by Marijn van Putten

[@Peter-xf9jy]

Qiraat taught by Allah ? the Qiraat are all post-uthmanic (based on the uthmanic rasm, more or less). Ahruf existed allegedly before Uthman rewrote and burnt them. wallah !

[@SwordofAllah1234]

Finny😂

[@yasminakhelifi8327]

ت ة ..... The same like ... David david

[@yasminakhelifi8327]

We don't know how you think. If you were an Arab, you would realize the beauty and miracle of the Qur’an. How can an orphan who did not go to school and live in pre-Islamic times? His people worshiped idols, and their lives were difficult. How was it possible for him to write a book that contains a law that is suitable for every time and place... Can you tell me about prophets that you have not heard of? If it was not a revelation from God... God chose messengers from the Jews, then they rejected and disbelieved, then He sent Jesus, peace be upon him, to them, and then they persecuted him. And they distorted the sacred heavenly books. After that, he changed the language and made it Arabic so that you would not be able to corrupt it as you are doing now... I hope that God will guide you.

[@user-wc7ku7ud3e]

حبيبي أرجو ان تراجع معلوماتك الكتابات عن جمع القرأن في زمن عثمان وتوحيد المصاحف ليست صحيحه النبي الكريم هو من كتب القرأن بيده الشريفه كتب الايات وجمعها في سور جمع السور في مصحف عمل نسخ منه ووزعها علي المدن البعيده ليتعلم منها الناس المصحف الأمام نسميه كذلك هو في الحقيقه مصحف النبي وهو نفس المصاحف المكتشفه في اماكن اخري ففي دمشق تم اكتشاف مصحف قديم في مسجد قديم المصحف عليه خاتم النبي علي كل ورقه خاتم النبي وتم فحصه في بريتانيا بالكربون ولالتحليل الطيفي وثبت انه من عصر يقارب وجود النبي ويوجد علي المصحف تاريخ للسنه 11 للهجره اي في حياه النبي المصحف من جلد البقر المعالج كيماءيا لو حضرتك تريد المعرفه أبحث ولا تصدق الأكاذيب اللتي يكذبها الغربين فهم يريدون التشكيك في الاسلام من أجل المسيحيه ويتعمدون الكذب ياسيدي لو درست القران ستجد كلمات مثل نعمه نعمت ولكل من رسم الكلمه معني يختلف عن الرسم للكلمه بالتاء المفتوحه ايضا كلمه رحمه رحمت المعني ليس واحد ايضا كلمه ابراهيم ستجد الميممره علي السطر ومره تحت السطر ولكل رسم معني مختلف ستجد ابراهيم اتت مره من غير ياء ابرام ومره ابراهيم طبعا رسم الكلمات أو الخط العربي تكور مع الذمن عشرات الكلمات ستجد اختلاف في كتابتها ليس ذلك خطأ أو نسيان لكن هذا مقصود فكل تغير في كتابه الكلمه يكون له معني اخر النبي الكريم هو من كتب القران بيده الشريفه و بعده المسلمين كتبوا القران كما كتبه النبي لم يغيروا شيء

[@BenM61]

The Islamic historical tradition of the preservation of the noble Quran has been proven to be correct all along over and over again. Why do you orientalists still try to tell us otherwise. Can’t you people find other ways to make a living?

[@MeemKhaMeemDhal--khaYaRaWawNun]

9:40 It is TRUE regarding certain phrases in the Quran using either the letter Ta, or Ta MATBUTHA ( which actually derived from the original letter HA ) -------------------------- Chapter 3 Verse 103 وَٱذْكُرُوا۟ نِعْمَتَ ٱللَّهِ عَلَيْكُمْ WAZ-KURU / NIKMA-TALLAHI / ALAI-KUM. USING the normal Letter T or Ta ( ABJAD value of 400 ) --------------- Chapter 5 Verse 7 وَٱذْكُرُوا۟ نِعْمَةَ ٱللَّهِ عَلَيْكُمْ also exactly WAZ-KURU / NIKMA-TALLAHI / ALAI-KUM. USING the letter Ta MARBUTHA ( ABJAD value of 5 ) ++++++++++++++++++++ HOWEVER.......Arabic ABJAD values ( VIRTUALLY like the MUCH older HEBREW gematria ) shall also play a super important role in the COUNTLESS of mind-blown numerical and even scientific SIGNS of the Quran too !!!

[@MeemKhaMeemDhal--khaYaRaWawNun]

There are countless of PRIME patterns in the Quran. One great example is the only SPIDER Verse of the Quran Chapter 29 Verse 41. From the FIRST till LAST word SPIDER of the Quran which is inside this SPIDER Verse, it will ONLY be 8 WORDS. Quite interestingly, SPIDERS are different from insects that have 6 LEGS...........SPIDERS have 8 LEGS. BUT from just these 8 WORDS from the FIRST till LAST word SPIDERS of the Quran, we can also EASILY get over 20 AWESOME PRIME patterns just like that !!. And they are NOT JUST 2 or 3 digits PRIME patterns, but 10+ to 20+ digits PRIME patterns ! The MAIN METHOD is to just make use of these 8 Word's ABJAD value. This is just one secrets regarding the Quran....there are of course COUNTLESS more !

[@NoeticMuse]

This guy is so far off

[@inquisitivemind007]

3.6 The Readings Are Intentionally Artificial As we have seen above, none of the readings make up any single consistent linguistic system, nor do they show a clear signal of any one dialect of Arabic. Instead, they are an mix of different dialectal forms, distributed in a way from which no obvious pattern can be deduced p81 of Quranic Arabic by Marijn van Putten

[@sajidkadri2623]

There where false prophet during the time abu bakar

[@MeemKhaMeemDhal--khaYaRaWawNun]

There are countless of PRIME patterns in the Quran. One great example is the only SPIDER Verse of the Quran Chapter 29 Verse 41. From the FIRST till LAST word SPIDER of the Quran which is inside this SPIDER Verse, it will ONLY be 8 WORDS. Quite interestingly, SPIDERS are different from insects that have 6 LEGS...........SPIDERS have 8 LEGS. BUT from just these 8 WORDS from the FIRST till LAST word SPIDERS of the Quran, we can also EASILY get over 20 AWESOME PRIME patterns just like that !!. And they are NOT JUST 2 or 3 digits PRIME patterns, but 10+ to 20+ digits PRIME patterns ! The MAIN METHOD is to just make use of these 8 Word's ABJAD value. This is just one secrets regarding the Quran....there are of course COUNTLESS more !

[@Apsua72]

And again someone who tries to shake the integrity of the protected Quran with so-called “evidence”. what a waste of time. finally get it if god protects it then every attempt is pointless. it's getting boring.

[@vaisakhsnathn7388]

Except there is No GOD in islam! Its la illaha= No GOD! illaallah= BUT Allah

[@Efn5Q8Vyxn]

​​​​@@vaisakhsnathn7388So, Arab Christians, Jews and other religious Arabic speaking faith groups like the Yazidis, Samritans, Bahaii's etc are collectively misuing the word Allah to refer to god? Ilah would be like in English where you write 'god' with a lowercase g. Allah would like when you write 'God' with an uppercase 'G'.

[@BenM61]

@@vaisakhsnathn7388Allah comes from al ilah which means the god.

[@SufiyanMullaji-uc3xv]

​@@vaisakhsnathn7388sanatani 🤡🤡 The verse is There is No GOD but ALLAH Are you educated Jaahil Or you don't understand English

[@Kassalawy56789]

Man you need to be fluent in Arabic grammar to understand the difference.... Instead of merely depending in your ability to read Arabic... Thanks God for Islam ❤❤

[@inquisitivemind007]

And I suppose it's just a coincidence that the differences in the Uthmanic master copies form a copying pattern is it?

[@BenM61]

A copying pattern?

[@inquisitivemind007]

@@BenM61 the stemma he was referring to.

[@rodjaibmanaleseg2264]

The Noble Qur’an is Genuinely Holy Scripture. The verbatim words of Allah, Divine speech… these people are trying their best to debunk it because these so called scholars aren’t believers at all they are atheists who are seeing the world without God.

[@OksintasObones]

😂😂 book of contradictions yeah