Is Punishment in Hell Forever? | Dr. Shabir Ally

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[@omerali2690]

In Quran 6:128, it is mentioned that hell will be forever, but then the exception is given, that is, except if your Lord wills otherwise. In Surah Hud verses 106-108, there is description of people of hell and heaven. When God describes heaven, He says that heaven will remain forever except if your Lord wills otherwise, but the. The verse continues with the expresion that your Lord will not go against His promise. But when Hell is mentioned, Allah says that Hell will remain forever, except if your Lord wills otherwise and then Allah says that He will do whatever He wills. This difference should be pondered upon.

[@omerali2690]

@Mohammed Talib Why not? Even satan will enter heaven one day Insha Allah. 🙂🙂

[@esseandessence4421]

@@omerali2690 No Shaitan shall be Annihilated. To believe in the salvation of Shait:a:n is a heresy if not Cufr.

[@esseandessence4421]

@@omerali2690 Shait:a:n Shall be Annihilated .End of Hell / Jahannam does not mean people in hell shall be sent to Heavenly Paradise, an other alternative is that they shall be Annihilated for all aeviternity . ‘Ibn :Arabi also hold an analogous view that people in Heavenly Hell shall become punishment resistent and they shall not feel any torture in the apparent torture . Some one extended this view that they shall enjoy the apparent torture.

[@omerali2690]

@Esse And Essence Bro satan was already in Jannah even after he refused to accept Allah's command and after being casted out from God's presence. This is where he deceived Adam and Eve. But in anycase, I used to think that Allah alone will decide the fate of His creation and I had a hope that Allah is above this poinless eternal torture which will be of no benefit. But it seems that the belief that the most merciful forgiving God is Malik e Yumiddeen is atleast heresy if not Kufr and God will ask muslim scholars first before deciding the fate of His creation. Bro, here is a request, when Allah will ask you about the fate of His creation, please ask Him to forgive me for believing in heresy. 😥😥😥

[@kkm227]

Either it remains forever or not we are sure that Allah never ever treats anyone unjustly.

[@fountainofspeech1379]

Yep exactly Allah is the most Merciful.

[@Anonymous_00020]

Indeed Allah SWT is soo merciful

[@Bulayla1426]

@@fountainofspeech1379 it remains forever regardless of shabir's misunderstanding

[@fountainofspeech1379]

@@Bulayla1426 yes I know alhamdullilah. I've unsubscribed from this channel due to such views

[@mohamadfazli5575]

according to Quran yes its for ever...

[@KevinKanthur]

I explained something similar to my dad about a month ago. He's a non-muslim and he was asking questions about it. I told him that bad things cannot be in the presence of Allah, so if after your life you still have some bad in your soul, hell is there to purify your soul and then you'll be ready to go to heaven. This makes 100% sense with Allah's mercy.

[@aseelmarie5178]

but is that true?

[@roccosins2916]

Did u tell ur dad that he will go to hell becoz he is non Muslim.

[@trillanthropistgawd8488]

It does not make sense at all. If the purpose is to purify as you say, he can purify without subjecting unimaginable torture in hell

[@j777ace]

@@trillanthropistgawd8488 I think it has more to do with being fair and just; If someone was a good person then it makes sense to put them in heaven. If someone was a bad person, then it does make sense for them to be punished. Why would god just purify them on the spot and put them in heaven? That wouldn't be just for the person who was good. But then again, this is my understanding of it, it is also possible that I am wrong.

[@AmuslimwithAopinion]

ONLY those who believe in ONE GOD and belive that prophet Muhammed peace be upon him is the last prophet of God will go to heaven, don't rely on this scholars view because it is mentioned forever in hell in Islam. Tell your family/dad to convert to Islam if he wants salvation. The truth is the truth.

[@ThingsWeMayNotKnow]

I'm not taking any chances. Gonna be good in this life to get into Heaven.

[@eyesofra1111]

Yeah bro, better safe than sorry

[@chromatickhaled]

That's what he said in the beginning. You do not want to spend even one second in there

[@earningaccelarators]

Without Jesus it’s hell he told he is the only way and allah is a demon

[@orionemperor5319]

Exactly, Man of honour. No need to put effort to gain a place in hell. May Allah's mercy be upon us so that we go to Heaven.

[@shashankphansikar7094]

Being good is not enough , you also have to be muslim...

[@FreePalestine718]

Oh Allah I please save all of us from the hell fire and guid us to the straight path

[@PsvAeEditz]

Ameen ❤️🥺

[@nchofuasegaidprotus8040]

@@PsvAeEditz christ died for sins so if repent and trust then hell will not see you

[@PsvAeEditz]

@@nchofuasegaidprotus8040 Astagfirullah Jesus Christ (Hazrat Isa a.s) was never God he is Messengers of Allah ❤️ King of all and You should Repent to Allah ❤️ King of all and trust Hell will not see You

[@Bos_Meong]

​@@nchofuasegaidprotus8040 jesus is prophet, not a god. I hope someday you will understand.

[@jessieramkissoon2720]

Allah doesn't exist prove me he's real and I'll convert

[@onlyinaustraliago1604]

Yes, this clip may bring forth an other controversy. But, it make sense hearing argument with open mind. We hope and pray that non of us be subject to that fire.

[@Bulayla1426]

It brings controversy cuz he wrong. Ibn al qayyim Is free from his claims on him. Ibn al qayyim believed that hell ends for the believers yet people twists his words

[@Bulayla1426]

@321Love-Walking The-Talk if you were a muslims but were a sinner you'd go to hell for some time then be removed1

[@Bulayla1426]

@321Love-Walking The-Talk it's not fully mentioned in the quran. It's mentioned in the sunnah though

[@homey-arbour46]

But those who disbelieve and deny Our signs will be the residents of the Fire. They will be there forever.” 2:39

[@retroman5432]

Keep in mind that this was around the time of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) towards giving out the warnings/signs on Non-Muslims, and some of those people immediately rejected him. Are you telling me that the same is applied towards Modern day Non-Muslims based off of what happened 1,440 years ago? How are they supposed to accept Islam if there's no signs given to them?

[@MurataSolos]

you realize that would mean most people go to hell if i ever join a religion im joining when where either nobody goes to hell forever or there is none ngl

[@ProsecutorEdgeworth28]

OBJECTION! There is no proof of this other than the word of one man

[@ChroniclesofMexico]

⁠@@MurataSolosso you’ll join a religion if it says the things you want. That sounds like you have determined yourself as God. If you seek truth then you don’t care where that truth takes you. Since God is becoming more of a fact even in science. They just change the name to simulation theory or creative designer. The next question why would God create something from nothing. What is our place. Well in the Muslim story of Adam and Eve it tells our place. Humans would never appreciate heaven unless they experience the hardship of this world. You have to earn heaven. Do you think most people are earning heaven? Traveling around USA you’ll see Satan is running most people lives. These people think well since they haven’t killed anyone they going to heaven. When I’m reality all yourself what is a believer. God says for the true believer death is a gift because he gets to meet his creator. How would you live life if you knew for sure their was a God. Most are living like they do what they want and they say they believe just in case Y the people that really believe pray. They follow the book. When everyone else is a slave to temptation they keep on the path because they know there is a God. When death looks then in the face they smile. It sounds like you need to decide if you believe. If you know there a God then how would you move. If he literally talked to you how would you move in life. Then I’m sure you will be rewarded with the real world. If your like most people who like to give the devil a hug your probably screwed.

[@NiTeLightYears]

@@retroman5432Because in the modern day, it’s less about supernatural signs and more about signs in science, rationality, and logical deduction.

[@electro639]

The host, Dr. Safiyyah Ally, was awesome with her questions. She asked things that many prople would ask. Bravo.

[@stormy4481]

May Allah bless all of you people who watched this video

[@billsamuls7620]

NOT ME

[@PsvAeEditz]

Ameen

[@ProsecutorEdgeworth28]

The concept of God is ridiculous but I respect your opinion have a nice day .

[@SilverScorpio17]

I've always held this view but I never knew there were other scholars who had this theory! Even though it's a minority opinion, to me it 100% reinforces the mercy and love God has for us and makes me want to do better because of it. Thank you so much for sharing!

[@omaribnalahmed5967]

I'd disagree it's simply going against basics and is not understanding God is the full capacity of the attributes such as mercy, majestic etc so thereby his punishment should be as befits him as he is truly the most just the Qu'ran emphasises it too that God could've put all the good on jannah and bad in hell but to be fair he put them through life.

[@omaribnalahmed5967]

By no way philosophically speaking hell fire being eternal is not against God it'd just a very intense punishment as it should to befit God.

[@omaribnalahmed5967]

But i understand one's issue with it from a emotional standard we obviously understand its a painful punishment but God knows best hellfire is truly for the evil.

[@SilverScorpio17]

@@omaribnalahmed5967 Well I'm still figuring out the whole free will problem, which is also related to that. But yes, from an emotional and practical perspective, how many times have you forgiven your kids, parents, siblings, or pets despite them deliberately doing something you told them not to? Even though I'm not a particularly forgiving person and I can easily hold grudges, it's hard to not forgive the ones you love most. Of course God is all-powerful and can do whatever; only God knows what will happen in the end.

[@Yameen200]

There actually have been medieval scholars who didnt believe in the eternal hell. Even today for every verse that implies eternal hell there are tons of other verses to support the non eternal hell.

[@AzharTechnoCoder]

Keep up the good work

[@salihkh]

It was mentioned that it was forever. But there are verses that supports that idea that followed by saying in except of Allah's mercy. So I'm hoping that Allah than can have a mercy on us even the worst person on Earth. Its really terrifying to know that Allah punishes someone eternally. He's the most merciful and I personally believe He will forgive everyone. Maybe not the same time for each of us but I know the time will come when the last person in hell will be forgiven after the horrendous torture. But still Allah only knows. Inshallah.

[@ridwan6695]

An-Nisa - Verse 116 إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ لَا يَغْفِرُ أَن يُشْرَكَ بِهِۦ وَيَغْفِرُ مَا دُونَ ذَٰلِكَ لِمَن يَشَآءُ ۚ وَمَن يُشْرِكْ بِٱللَّهِ فَقَدْ ضَلَّ ضَلَـٰلًۢا بَعِيدًا Dr. Mustafa Khattab, The Clear Quran: Surely Allah does not forgive associating ˹others˺ with Him ˹in worship˺, but forgives anything else of whoever He wills. Indeed, whoever associates ˹others˺ with Allah has clearly gone far astray. Ali 'Imran - Verse 9 رَبَّنَآ إِنَّكَ جَامِعُ ٱلنَّاسِ لِيَوْمٍ لَّا رَيْبَ فِيهِ ۚ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ لَا يُخْلِفُ ٱلْمِيعَادَ Dr. Mustafa Khattab, The Clear Quran: Our Lord! You will certainly gather all humanity for the ˹promised˺ Day-about which there is no doubt. Surely Allah does not break His promise.”

[@AbdurrahmanDem]

Allah is saying several times in the Quran that he wont forgive the Non-Muslims.

[@Shawrick.]

Surah Al Maida 5:72 Whoever associates others with Allah will surely be forbidden paradise by Allah

[@salihkh]

@@Shawrick. Yes but in some verses, it's followed by "except for His mercy". I don't believe Allah will punish people eternally, I just think God is very merciful. Maybe He only says eternal punishment in Hell so people get scared. But Allah knows best. What I just know is He's the most forgiving. And I wish to the kafir to be forgive by Allah because punishment in Hell is not easy. Just being there for a second terrified me, what about eternal, which doesn't make sense. I also think the punishment in hell is a way of purification. But again, this is just my opinion. Allah still knows best.

[@SmackDabCola]

@@salihkh akhi what's your take on imam Mahdi being already born after 9/11

[@MnSakib007]

May Allah spare us from the punishment in hell, even for the smallest fraction of time.

[@EK-fc8ms]

Oh dear, I normally don't get into conversation about hell and heaven, but i see you might be a kind person. The hell and heaven are not in afterlife. We create them here, within our hearts and minds. Best

[@MnSakib007]

@@EK-fc8ms and the consequences follow through the afterlife in real hell and heaven.

[@EK-fc8ms]

@@MnSakib007 have you seen it? Have you been to the other side? I am telling you , all of it is here. But it's up to you, you either can have a life of fear, or a life of joy and trust

[@MnSakib007]

@@EK-fc8ms I believe because Allah says so. That's the only reason. And I don't think I'm missing out on much. You and I both haven't been on the other side. For the sake of argument, if there's nothing on the other side (which, I believe, there is) then I don't see much harm for me. BUT IF THERE IS SOMETHING, MY FRIEND, GOOD LUCK 😁.

[@EK-fc8ms]

@@MnSakib007So just in case, you are protected :) or so you think and also speak for yourself. I have seen it a little. But why wishing me good luck? ( than you :)) You don't know my life, what kind of person I am. My understanding is always evolving, I am always inquiring and searching. I've been through dogma, don't need it anymore. If you think it's working for you... great. Sorry I have tried to respond, you don't need anyone, you know it all

[@rtruth550]

ALLAH does not need anyone, we need ALLAH. So it doesn’t matter if someone doesn’t think Allah appealing to them. Ungratefulness always leads people to Downfall. So we should always be thankful to ALLAH for not punishing us in this world despite of our uncountable sins and transgressions. May Allah forgive us and save us from hellfire.

[@mohamedbinishaq3169]

Amen

[@billsamuls7620]

I NEED HELP WITH MY CASH FLOW

[@mofazzalhossain8453]

Dr Shabir ally is highly knowledgeable person, May Allah give him higher place in everywhere

[@googleprofile6660]

@salman yusuf Not every old person is knowledgeable

[@josehermosillo7709]

I agree that the only true God is merciful in one way or another with his creation, good or bad !!

[@allahamad119]

Here allh is defended by this greatest of lier.

[@Bulayla1426]

No he isn't. He doesn't even quote ibn al qayyim or ibn taymiyyah properly. They didn't believe in hell ending. They believed hell ONLY ENDS for the MUSLIMS that were in hell

[@asparagusredal7751]

yes, pls… everywhere .. i just love that❣️

[@bethechageyouyouwanttosee1871]

May Allah protects us from hell fire, no body can be in hell for one second let's pray tonit the 27th of ramadan that allah save us from hell fire

[@S24W2]

Hellfire clearly does not exist my friend, so stop worrying, its all man made nonsense designed to control people, fear mongering etc

[@shark5651]

@@S24W2 praying for you, hopefully you find the right path to take

[@S24W2]

@@shark5651 thank you, but you'll be praying for a long long time! I've taken the right path, and I am happy living ams and enjoying my one life that I have

[@shark5651]

@@S24W2 bro its not worth its only 80 years.. heaven is endless

[@S24W2]

@@shark5651 I don't get your point? You speak as if you have evidence for this heaven which is endless

[@akg4057]

you are the only living scholar in Islam who had the same view of me..Alahamdulillah..May your view should be widely reached and lets make this world more beautiful

[@drammehali7156]

And both your views are incorrect! This man is a misguided scholar

[@kamellolz7]

@@drammehali7156 so the correct view is eternell punishement for few years of sinning on earth?

[@saifanwartauhid1702]

@@kamellolz7 Think again. A creator created you and you refuse him through your whole life. If you refuse Allah throughout your whole life from beginning to end, its obvious that you will refuse him if you get eternal life. So why not the eternal punishment? Another point is, we dont know how worse is refusing Allah as creator. If it deserves eternal punishment, then Allah will definitely serve it. If it doesn't, Allah is Al-Hakim.

[@shahul8222]

@@kamellolz7 Watch your words. Allah has said in Quran that disbelievers will be in hell forever.

[@kamellolz7]

@@saifanwartauhid1702 im not talking about refusing allah as creator im talking about people that are agnostique and chrsitian

[@omerali2690]

In Quran 6:128, it is mentioned that hell will be forever, but then the exception is given, that is, except if your Lord wills otherwise. In Surah Hud verses 106-108, there is description of people of hell and heaven. When God describes heaven, He says that heaven will remain forever except if your Lord wills otherwise, but then the verse continues with the expresion that your Lord will not go against His promise. But when Hell is mentioned, Allah says that Hell will remain forever, except if your Lord wills otherwise and then Allah says that He will do whatever He wills. This difference should be pondered upon.

[@anwarmi2000]

Good Observation

[@rockhard9369]

unless God interfere, hell is forever?

[@fury9947]

@@rockhard9369 Well yes, if you look at it from a literal sense. But in the verse when god said that heaven will remain forever unless he wills it then we would understand that one day he might will it to not exist anymore, but the verse also says that god keeps his promise (and here i believe the promise that god made for humans that they will live forever in heaven) meaning that god will do what he wants but won't go against his promise meaning that heaven will exist forever because gods promised it will and he will never will for it not to exist. With hell god doesn't make a promise that it will exist forever, he said it will exist forever unless he wills for it not to, but there is no promise here that states that hell will remain forever. Meaning that although he said that hell will remain forever, his addition to "unless i will for it not to exist" means that a time will come when he will remove hell. One might say that: well, he could just leave it there forever, after all he said IF he wills for it not to exist. This argument makes sense but in the quran god shows that he is more merciful that angry and vengeful, so by that definition it means that in the end his mercy will drive him to remove hell eventually. I am not a scholar or a scientist but this is my point of view from some observations on the quran and the infos this video gave us.

[@rockhard9369]

@@fury9947 okay, thank you, wish you peace and happiness, Allah bless you.

[@fury9947]

@@rockhard9369 happy to help, but please make sure to do your own research. Don't simply take everything that I've said for granted, I'm not a scientist or a scholar so if you want more details check pro scholars and their interpretations and see what makes sense to you most. To me what i stated made sense but it could always change because i made my analysis depending of what I know, meaning that my opinion might change if i learn more. So never stop asking and learning and don't close your mind to what makes you feel good, i believe god gave us intelligence to learn and ask and seek answers, not to live like mindless cattle. I hope this helps you out mate.

[@abdousaidabdou2201]

Man thinking about is scary subhanallah may Allah protect us from hell fire🤲

[@TheUneducatedTeacher]

Ameen KM Hemmans The KZbinr

[@hdakahidef]

Ameen and yes so scary we should cry thinking about it

[@siignall]

Ameen

[@nestcanz]

Put your trust in God, do good, guard your consciousness and it will be alright, God-willing.

[@msarwar01]

I love how both of these PhDs, father and daughter pair discuss these topics, with humility and open mind at the same time maintaining the integrity of the questions and the subject matters relating to the Quran and hadiths! I would love it more if they concluded each videos with saying JazakAllahu khairan or something like that instead of ty/yw.

[@user-pz2uc5yh1b]

And those who disbelieve and deny Our signs - those will be companions of the Fire; they will abide therein eternally." (39) 2 : 39 Chapter 2 Al-Baqarah, Ayah 39

[@omerali2690]

In Quran 6:128, it is mentioned that hell will be forever, but then the exception is given, that is, except if your Lord wills otherwise. In Surah Hud verses 106-108, there is description of people of hell and heaven. When God describes heaven, He says that heaven will remain forever except if your Lord wills otherwise, but you Lord will not go against His promise. But when Hell is mentioned, Allah says that Hell will remain forever, except if your Lord wills otherwise and then Allah says that He will do whatever He wills. This difference should be pondered upon.

[@user-pz2uc5yh1b]

@@omerali2690 The punishment will not be lightened for them, nor will they be reprieved. Chapter 2 Al-Baqarah, Ayah 162

[@omerali2690]

@@user-pz2uc5yh1b There is a difference between warning of severe punishment, and actually delivering that punishment. In the end, Allah will do whatever He wills. I remember that during my childhood, there were a lot of instances when my parent told me that if I do certain mistake, they will punish me ( at some instances, they said that they will kill me). I now know that they said it just because they wanted me to stay away from certain evils, and not that they would actually kill me, if I had done those things. So I do hope that these are just warnings and in the end Allah is above that pointless and useless torture.

[@TheLightOfRevelation]

@@omerali2690 You might be fool to compare Allah(swt) to your parents. You need to understand when Allah swt said something in the Quran then it will happen and it won't change. HIS WORDS WON'T CHANGE AT ANY CONDITION, It is humans who don't keep their words but HE will always keep his words. Why just hell? Even paradise is temporary then. Why do you think you will be in paradise forever? Above concept doesn't make any sense it's just distroying people's faith.

[@user-pz2uc5yh1b]

@@omerali2690 WHAT !? “Pointless And Useless Torture” ??? satan Asked For Respite But Not Safety From Hell ! What is Happening in Palestine is Pointless And Useless Torture !!! Bro Why Defend satan’s side ? Be Careful of Your Words ! AsalamuAlaikum Ameen

[@Hamza000h]

WALLAH whenever i ponder a question Dr Shabir replies to it the next day. This is a regular occurrence with your channel and has happened again. I truly believe Allah is working through this channel, stay safe and love from the UK

[@Patient4Ever]

Thats Allah swt answering ur questions my friend : )

[@Citizen052]

Same here! I was thinking about this matter after I read verse 107 of Surah Hud a few weeks back.

[@Bulayla1426]

Well then shaytaan be answering your questions because shabir talks bout issues he doesn't know anyhting sbout

[@Hamza000h]

@@Bulayla1426 if you say so wahabi

[@Bulayla1426]

@@Hamza000h wow such a great reply.

[@madjames1134]

One should take account that people who goes to Paradise goes there because of the mercy of The Most Merciful (God). But one who goes to Hell goes there because he deserves it.

[@psychologytoday1521]

no one deserves eternal hellfire, not even hitler..let alone a good disbeliever

[@liberiangirl8382]

yes 100%

[@madjames1134]

@@psychologytoday1521 I believe that too, so, while Paradise is eternal (as the mercy of God who is giving it to people who doesn't deserve it is infinite), the Hell isn't (as the fault of people punished there isn't).

[@SuperMonor]

@@madjames1134 No ! ALLAH SUBBAHANATALAH is gracious, just and merciful ! THAT doesn't mean he'll give paradise to a person that doesn't deserve it, then that will be unjust there are criteria rules and commandments for it ! As a Muslim we believe this live is a test and the judgement day is our exam result hererafter is the final abode according to how we lived this life we will enter heaven or hell fire . ALLAH SUBBAHANATALAH our creator has given us free will it's up to us if we will obey or disobey him (I don't want to disobey my creator ALLAH SUBBAHANATALAH for sure ) So to pass our test in this life we have to keep his commandments and worship him alone without associating any partners which is the biggest sin ISLAM i we worship ALLAH SUBBAHANATALAH alone ! Just being a good human giving to charity doing good deeds won't cut it . That why ALLAH SUBBAHANATALAH has sent Prophet's and messenger over time and time again to warn and guide us to the right path and stay away from Saitan trap of listen to him meaning own desire and sin being trapped in the worldly materialistic things . I don't want to lose my eternity for a misley 100 years of earthly life . Hitler will have to burn he's skin of the bone join back together six million times over then afterwards other cases will be heard it will take billions of year of wishful thinking ....... ..

[@TheRawring2000s]

Damn. I hope everyone forgives me during judgement day!

[@osheenkelana]

MALAY SUBTITLES Part 1 of 2 01:33 Seperti gambar Tuhan anda 01:35 adakah seseorang yang disebut benda ini neraka, 01:38 dan dia akan meletakkan orang di sana 01:39 dan dia akan menyaksikan mereka terbakar selama-lamanya. 01:44 Oleh itu, apakah maksudnya bagi Tuhan? 01:48 Dan kemudian anda mengatakan bahawa Tuhan itu baik dan penyayang. 01:50 Jadi bagaimana kebaikan dan rahmat ini 01:53 dinyatakan dalam keadaan itu? 01:55 Jadi ini memerlukan jawapan, 01:58 dan dalam menangani persoalan ini, 01:59 Saya mendapati bahawa terdapat banyak sebab 02:02 kerana berfikir bahawa ... 02:06 Untuk mengatakan bahawa neraka itu selamanya 02:08 bukan idea yang baik. 02:09 Dan saya berasa lega untuk mencari 02:12 bahawa terdapat sebilangan sarjana Islam dalam sejarah kita 02:15 beberapa sarjana penting yang sebenarnya berkata 02:18 neraka itu tidak akan selamanya. 02:21 Yang paling terkenal dalam hal ini adalah Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya. 02:23 Dia adalah pelajar terkenal Ibnu Taimiyah, 02:26 yang dianggap sebagai sebilangan besar Syeikh ul-Islam. 02:31 Inilah gelaran yang telah dianugerahkan kepadanya 02:35 oleh penduduk yang ramai, sarjana Islam. 02:39 Bukan hanya seorang sarjana, tetapi anda tahu, seorang sarjana ulama. 02:43 Dan tentunya dia terkenal 02:46 untuk banyak tulisannya, koleksi besar 02:48 fatwa atau keputusan yang telah diberikannya. 02:51 Anda tahu, hanya koleksi fatwa seperti ini 02:53 selebar ini di rak buku, 02:56 mengisi keseluruhan rak. 02:58 Pelajarnya, Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyyah 03:00 juga cukup berjaya 03:02 dan sangat dihormati. 03:04 Dia menulis sebuah buku berjudul (bahasa asing) 03:08 "Petunjuk untuk jiwa ke tanah kebahagiaan." 03:13 Dalam buku itu, dia mengemukakan persoalan 03:15 sama ada syurga dan neraka akan kekal selama-lamanya. 03:18 Dan dia memberikan pelbagai penggunaan sarjana Muslim mengenai perkara ini. 03:23 Oleh itu, ketika datang ke neraka secara khusus, 03:26 dia mengambil kedudukan dan dia berkata 03:29 bahawa ini adalah kedudukan gurunya juga, 03:32 neraka itu tidak akan selamanya. 03:36 Dan bagaimana dia sampai di sini? 03:38 Baiklah, dia terlebih dahulu memberikan hujah 03:41 dari mereka yang mengatakan bahawa ia akan kekal selama-lamanya. 03:43 Dan kemudian dia membantah hujah-hujah itu 03:45 dengan memberikan hujah balas. 03:47 Dan kemudian dia memberikan sekitar 25 mata untuk menunjukkan perbezaannya 03:51 antara syurga dan neraka pada persoalan ini. 03:53 Jadi syurga harus selamanya, tetapi neraka tidak selamanya, 03:58 kerana ada perbezaan antara keduanya. 03:59 Jadi apakah perkara utama yang akan digunakan oleh orang lain 04:03 untuk mengatakan bahawa neraka itu selamanya? 04:04 Nah, kad truf besar untuk mereka 04:07 adakah terdapat ayat-ayat dalam Al-Quran 04:09 yang mengatakan bahawa orang akan masuk neraka 04:11 dan mereka akan tahu, seperti (bergumam) 04:13 akan berada di neraka selama-lamanya 04:15 dan seperti bermaksud mereka akan 04:16 tinggal di sana - seperti jenis tinggal di sana. 04:18 Seperti, ia seolah-olah tidak berakhir. 04:23 Kadang-kadang, ada yang (bergumam) 04:26 seperti mereka akan berada di sana selamanya. 04:28 Jadi ini kelihatan sangat jelas dan harfiah 04:31 tetapi jawapan Ibn Qayyim untuk itu adalah ya. 04:34 Tetapi dalam konteksnya, seperti ketika kita katakan 04:36 bahawa sesuatu akan kekal selamanya, tetapi kita bermaksud selamanya. 04:39 Seperti seseorang yang berkata, "Perkara ini berlaku selamanya." 04:41 Kita tahu dalam konteksnya, itu tidak bermaksud selamanya 04:44 dalam erti kata falsafah bermaksud terlalu lama 04:48 betul? Ini berlaku selama-lamanya. 04:50 Seperti yang diperlukan untuk memuat turun filem ini selama-lamanya? 04:53 Dan kita tahu hanya beberapa minit 04:56 tetapi ada yang mengatakan bahawa ia memerlukan selama-lamanya. 04:57 Mereka bermaksud beberapa minit. 04:59 - Tetapi adakah anda fikir Tuhan akan menggunakan bahasa dengan begitu tidak tepat? 05:01 - Baik tetapi maksud Ibn Qayyim tepat 05:05 adakah bahasa itu digunakan seperti dalam konteks tertentu. 05:11 Jadi apabila diketahui, bila ada alasan yang baik 05:13 kerana berfikir bahawa neraka akan menjadi sementara. 05:16 - Mhmm. 05:17 - Apabila dikatakan bahawa orang akan dilemparkan ke neraka 05:20 dan mereka akan kekal di dalamnya, 05:22 itu bermaksud selama neraka. 05:25 Jadi selagi neraka kekal. 05:27 Tetapi jika Tuhan memadamkan neraka 05:31 seperti ia membuahkan hasil, 05:33 maka neraka tidak kekal. 05:35 Tetapi selagi ia kekal, orang akan tetap berada di dalamnya. 05:38 Jadi sebagai contoh, 05:40 syurga, ini adalah ungkapan rahmat Tuhan. 05:43 Dan menurut Ibn Qayyim 05:45 Rahmat Tuhan adalah sesuatu yang wujud di dalam Tuhan. 05:48 Ini adalah, ini bukan disebabkan oleh sesuatu yang diluar dirinya. 05:52 Inilah bagaimana Tuhan. 05:54 Tetapi kemarahan Tuhan tidak begitu melekat pada Tuhan. 05:58 Ia disebabkan oleh perkara lain yang berada di luar Tuhan 06:02 adalah kerana dosa orang. 06:05 Maka kemarahan Tuhan dinyatakan sebagai neraka. 06:09 Dan itu adalah dosa orang 06:11 yang menyebabkan neraka dinyatakan. 06:13 Jika tidak, tidak ada apa-apa di dalam Tuhan 06:15 yang mengatakan bahawa saya mesti mempunyai neraka. 06:18 Maka neraka itulah ungkapan kemarahan Tuhan 06:24 menangani dosa melainkan rahmat 06:29 mengatasi kemarahan, menurut Hadis yang terkenal. 06:31 Dan bahkan pernyataan Al-Quran tentang ini mengatakan bahawa 06:36 Rahmat Tuhan sangat kuat. 06:38 Oleh itu, dari perspektif ini, mudah difahami

[@lonewarrior5827]

In the Quran Allah says ... those in the hell will stay as long as he (Allah) want ... that clear its not infinite .... Alhamdullilah

[@tyrellrivera]

There are many verses that say Jahannam will be forever.

[@mohdumar1594]

Forever not means infinity

[@rawfish_8.3]

​@@mohdumar1594what's the difference between infinite and forever then?

[@Peppers_mintus]

​@@rawfish_8.3forever can be ceased as it is something within time Infinity is not, it extends beyond time, and God is infinite, and we established that Time is something God creates Therefore, if God so pleases, he can snuff out "forever"

[@theodoreroosevelt7471]

I am actually so scared that I don’t know what to do. May Allah forgive us for our weaknesses.

[@imamnadaf3757]

Don't worry just repent and start again 😊

[@maishamanarat3902]

I deal with this question a lot in philosophical point of view. Specially regarding non-believers.

[@shahul8222]

Disbelievers will be in hell forever with the permission of Allah.

[@Anonymous_00020]

@@shahul8222 with permission * ?????

[@shahul8222]

@@Anonymous_00020 with the will of Allah

[@GharibBFulan]

اللهم أرنا الحق حقا وارزقنا اتباعة، وأرنا الباطل باطلا وارزقنا اجتنابة. اللهم إني أعوذ بك من علم لا ينفع.

[@eliasofthebibleandthequran4912]

أَفَمَن حَقَّ عَلَيهِ كَلِمَةُ العَذابِ أَفَأَنتَ تُنقِذُ مَن فِى النّارِ

[@Yameen200]

The best reasoning to hell not being eternal is justice. The only reason someone would be put in hell is to fulfill justice. An eternal hell means god doesnt have power to bring justice as an infinite punishment would mean justice can never be fulfilled. An all powerful god would have power to bring a punishment fitting to justice.

[@thehourglassfan3515]

Nice way of thinking.

[@Yameen200]

@@thehourglassfan3515 you edited your comment but i got the gist of the part you deleted. Well some will say an infinite sin needs infinite hell. When i ask what this is some will refer to associating partners ie idol worship. But i dont see how some ppl worshipping other deities would need infinite hell, never made sense to me. You will also find that ppl will not like my hell reasoning but if i said god cannot repair the damage done to those who suffered on earth they get angry saying how dare you say that but they dont believe god can punish justly without infinite hell

[@thehourglassfan3515]

@@Yameen200 Yeah I edited it but basically I was saying most people in here reply negatively to Dr. Shabbir Ally’s views.

[@thehourglassfan3515]

@@Yameen200 Yeah I never understood this concept either and by the way, any person belonging to whatever religion he happens to follow believes it to be the truth so he’s not disobeying God in that regard.

[@asiandrama21]

@@Yameen200 idol worship can be mean anything. not only to worship statue,it's just a small sin which will led into bigger sin. means you are stepping away from Allah rules and makes new rules who is not Allah approved which is majority of religion is doing now. heck even tradisional islam. so you worship the wrong deities, not considering read the quran but scholar, pastur, etc like they are know it all

[@dojidaddy]

Thanks!

[@GormTheElder]

God is the greatest Redeemer. If he is unable to redeem all, then he is a lesser redeemer than He could be. Therefore as his redemption is the greatest one and his ability to redeem is the greatest, all must eventually return to him! None are outside his love, mercy and redemption.

[@wolverinegonder9997]

Dont put your own philosophical ideas into gods nature. Allah is direct and tells us about his attributes. Hell is eternal

[@superwatcher456]

@@wolverinegonder9997 He is ALL merciful. He may or may not make it eternal, but you can't speak or confirm for him.

[@ahmettunc788]

@@wolverinegonder9997 that punishment is very cruel

[@islamandscience101]

There are also verses referring to, as long as Allah will, and as long as the heavens and the earth last. This would also resolve the question of free will. Allah knows that everyone will eventually end up in paradise, but there will be purgatory hell to punish this life’s actions. In this way Allah doesn’t predestined eternal hell for everyone, not only temporary for those who did evil out if their own free will which He has granted.

[@mohamedadamskuyateh7991]

If hell is not for ever, then where will Satan and his entourage end?

[@drammehali7156]

A very good question my brother! Shabir Ally is a misguided scholar who gives wrong answers always

[@gokustrike4449]

@@drammehali7156 agreed

[@gokustrike4449]

@@drammehali7156 especially after onedawah exposed him

[@gokustrike4449]

@@drammehali7156 serious questions on this guy’s aqeedah and understanding of Islam, has totally freed himself from the scholarly tradition

[@mglaze13]

@@drammehali7156 He's misguided for following the opinion of the "misguided" Ibn Qayyim and Ibn Taymiyyah?

[@sufism1516]

The Dr should say " Allah knows the best at the end!"

[@Haq675]

I have experienced a sense of relief after hearing the Dr.

[@kingbro3369]

it was really mindblowing for me, ma shaa Allah

[@gobbledygook99]

I like Sheikh Shabbir, but I think there is a misunderstanding. Ayat 9:68, 2:80, 3:24, 10:52, 3:88, 45:34, 5:37 & 5:80 refute the concept that Hell is finite, and Hell is described as "the eternal punishment" many times (eg 32:14). Ayat 52:18, 4:147 and 44:56 52:27 state the believers never enter Hell. Regarding duration of Hell, 19:79 & 20:127 emphasize the continuity of Hell. Qur'an 6:128 is a key Ayah regarding the subject and should have been discussed. It says that God, in His Vast Compassion, may save a group of hellbound people at the last minute. However, after the destination is assigned, there will be no change; that is part of (mathwa). Regarding philosophical thinkers, it is critical to explain that the Qur'an says things will 'resolve' in the Hereafter (eg 37:39). In 37:31, the inmates of Hell say, "So God's decree is justified! We are partaking [of Hell]." In other words, the justification of Hell is validated by the inmates themselves.

[@MusantoSus]

"Verily, Allah forgives not that partners should be set up with him in worship, but He forgives except that (anything else) to whom He pleases" (Quran 4:48). A single verse refutes his entire stance.

[@Ahmed-vw3iw]

Ok what about the non Muslims who believed in One God and higher power and did not worship or associate with Allah. But also did not become Muslims. What will Allah do with them, will they be in hell forever

[@Design--om2zx]

@@Ahmed-vw3iwwell if they believed In Allah, then they will be saved.

[@faisalchowdhury1945]

@@Ahmed-vw3iw you have to belive in Allah and his Messangers, all of them including our Last Nabi. You dont get to pick and choose verses of the Quran. that is one of the Condition of Jannah. Just by beleiving in Allah wont get you into Jannah, like the Jews.

[@00Meowmeow]

Dr. Shabir has a lot of minority views that I really appreciate. He gives another side to what a lot of the classical scholars firmly believe and it's nice to have other viewpoints

[@jagenaught]

You do realise he is effectively trying to appease people. Ibn Ul-Qayyim is free from this. If you read from those classical scholars you'd also realise hell is forever. Read the Tafseer of Ibn Katheer. Also there are many hadiths verifying this. Those who die upon other than Islam are in hell forever.

[@winstongrettum3412]

@@jagenaught The Bible does not teach a literal hell and God is described as the God of love. A loving God would never consider making such a place.

[@jagenaught]

@@winstongrettum3412 So if hell doesn't exist, what happens to murderers, non Christians and atheists? Will they enter heaven according to you? Also how do you know what a loving God does or doesn't do? Can you explain the 10 commandments? Is there a purpose for them or it's just a set of commandments with no purpose?

[@finalfantasy3808]

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 12, Number 770: "Allah will call them [on the day of Resurrection], and As-Sirat (a bridge) will be laid across HELL and I (Muhammad) shall be the first amongst the Apostles to cross it with my followers." So Muhammad has been waiting and burning in hell 🔥 since he died. Meanwhile Jesus Christ has the power to save people from hell, like when Jesus told the thief on the cross "Today you will be with me in paradise". Jesus gives His followers eternal life because He has the keys of death and hell (John 10:28, Revelation 1:18)

[@jagenaught]

@@finalfantasy3808 you're grossly misguided. Jesus won't save you. He was a great Messenger of Allah. You don't understand the hadith at all. Abu Huraira reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “I will be the first to cross the bridge over Hell. The supplication of the Messengers on that day will be: O Allah, keep us safe! O Allah, keep us safe! There will be hooks on the sides like the thorns of al-Sa’dan, except their enormity is only known to Allah. People will be seized by them according to their deeds. Among them are those who are ruined by their deeds. Among them are those who are cut into pieces and later saved, until Allah has finished judging between His servants and He intends to take out of the Hellfire whomever He wills to take out. For whomever testified there is no God but Allah, the angels will be ordered to take them out and they will be known by their trace marks of prostration. Allah has forbidden the Hellfire from consuming any children of Adam with traces of prostration. They will be taken out after they had been burned, then dipped into a water called the water of life. They will spring forth like seeds on a streaming river.” Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 6573, Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 182 Grade: Muttafaqun Alayhi (authenticity agreed upon) according to Al-Bukhari and Muslim عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قال أَكُونُ أَوَّلَ مَنْ يُجِيزُ يعني جِسْر جَهَنَّمَ وَدُعَاءُ الرُّسُلِ يَوْمَئِذٍ اللَّهُمَّ سَلِّمْ سَلِّمْ وَبِهِ كَلَالِيبُ مِثْلُ شَوْكِ السَّعْدَانِ غَيْرَ أَنَّهَا لَا يَعْلَمُ قَدْرَ عِظَمِهَا إِلَّا اللَّهُ فَتَخْطَفُ النَّاسَ بِأَعْمَالِهِمْ مِنْهُمْ الْمُوبَقُ بِعَمَلِهِ وَمِنْهُمْ الْمُخَرْدَلُ ثُمَّ يَنْجُو حَتَّى إِذَا فَرَغَ اللَّهُ مِنْ الْقَضَاءِ بَيْنَ عِبَادِهِ وَأَرَادَ أَنْ يُخْرِجَ مِنْ النَّارِ مَنْ أَرَادَ أَنْ يُخْرِجَ مِمَّنْ كَانَ يَشْهَدُ أَنْ لَا إِلَهَ إِلَّا اللَّهُ أَمَرَ الْمَلَائِكَةَ أَنْ يُخْرِجُوهُمْ فَيَعْرِفُونَهُمْ بِعَلَامَةِ آثَارِ السُّجُودِ وَحَرَّمَ اللَّهُ عَلَى النَّارِ أَنْ تَأْكُلَ مِنْ ابْنِ آدَمَ أَثَرَ السُّجُودِ فَيُخْرِجُونَهُمْ قَدْ امْتُحِشُوا فَيُصَبُّ عَلَيْهِمْ مَاءٌ يُقَالُ لَهُ مَاءُ الْحَيَاةِ فَيَنْبُتُونَ نَبَاتَ الْحِبَّةِ فِي حَمِيلِ السَّيْلِ 6573 صحيح البخاري كتاب الرقاق باب الصراط جسر جهنم 182 صحيح مسلم كتاب الإيمان باب معرفة طريق الرؤية

[@shkdgg]

The beautiful thing about this question/discussion is the opportunity to think about Allah's mercy. Please share this video as it could be good dawa. Many would find these ideas inviting.

[@Ismail-Yahya]

A difficult question answered very well. Muslims like Dr Shabbir are exactly what our Ummah needs; familiar with the Islamic sciences; Academic and well spoken. Most people are hesitant about Islaam due to false misunderstandings and misconceptions which are widespread. If more Muslims study their faith tradition and are able to express and articulate a conversation on this level then there is no reason why Islam cannot spread.

[@billsamuls7620]

what science

[@billsamuls7620]

GO TOO CHRISTIAN PRINCE

[@billsamuls7620]

WHAT SCIENCE

[@mckaylarosej7009]

The reason why so many Muslims struggle to explain their religion is because their religion is nonsense. Jesus loves you, I pray you find him

[@epicman9940]

@@mckaylarosej7009 ur nonsense

[@dzhamshedumarov7969]

Hell is forever may Allah forgive us and keep us to his deen

[@Natalie-fj7fs]

If your children commit sin, would you send them to hell forever?

[@dzhamshedumarov7969]

Allah send people to hell not me if my son live his life according to Islam. Allah is most merciful and forgive all sins

[@Natalie-fj7fs]

@@dzhamshedumarov7969 you’re missing my point but ok

[@Design--om2zx]

@@Natalie-fj7fs relationship between son and dad isn't like that of a God and human.

[@malimali6686]

@@Natalie-fj7fs yeah if i was God and people didn't Pray for Thanking me for their existence ofc i would do.

[@samarrahgozar2580]

Thank you so very much for your content!!! It has helped me so much with my iman and happiness!!!

[@aidahsilver63]

MashaAllah

[@PsvAeEditz]

Mashallah ❤️

[@zakmuhammad9499]

How can falsehood help you with your Imaan? If you want your Imaan to be helped then you need to follow the Quran and Sunnah with the understanding of the Companions of the Messenger ‎ﷺ since they understand Islam better than anyone. If you listen to this fool in this video or any other sugar coater you will be misguided and far away from the path of Allah. The choice is yours!

[@ahmadibrahim7779]

Thank you very much and jazzak Allah kol el-khair Dr Shabir Ally and many thanks to this great channel and its organizers. El-hamdolelah, Allah gave me the great gift of watching this video. I do not know how to thank you enough.

[@uzaifbashir710]

Don't believe in this solely. It's just his thinking. Allah knows best.

[@streetkredtinople1678]

I really enjoy Dr. Shabir Ally.

[@Iamthewarner557]

*How can you disbelieve in Allah Seeing that you were dead and He gave you life. Then He will give you death, then again will bring you to life and then unto Him you will return.”* Quran (2:28) *And Allah has brought you out from the wombs of your mothers while you know nothing. And He gave you hearing👂, sight👁, and hearts❤ that you might give thanks (to Allah)."* Quran (16:78) 👉God Almighty says to the Mankind, Say(O Prophet), *“Allah gives you life, then causes you to die, then He will assemble you on the Day of Resurrection about which there is no doubt.”* Quran (45:26) *Allah is our creator.* *Worship only Allah without any partners.* *There is no God but Allah and Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) is his Last and Final Messanger.*

[@billsamuls7620]

WHATS THE POINT

[@idris_haris_al-kalima]

As one who believesin both the Bible and Ahsana al-Hadith, would like to point out that even in Torah and the Gospel, Hell is not forever, for it is written, "And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before the throne; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." The term "second death," although a synonym of "perdition" or "utter destruction," more literally refers to the destruction of souls. Isa al-Masih himself said, "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear Him which is able to destroy both the soul and body in [the fires of] Jahannam."

[@lerobarns1048]

If you claim you believe in the bible then don't say hell is not forever. Go back and read revelations.

[@idris_haris_al-kalima]

​@@lerobarns1048 Can you read Koine Greek? Most people don't know that "αἰών (aiṓn)" is a synonym of "καιρός (kairós)." And while "καιρός (kairós)" is translated by most Christians as "time;" its synonym, "αἰών (aiṓn)" is translated by most Christians as time even though that it is a bad translation, based in a misunderstanding of Koine Greek. The most literal meaning of "αἰών (aiṓn)" is "lifetime" or "age;" while "καιρός (kairós)" is most simple "time" or "season." Know this, Revelation 20:10 should translated as, 'And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tests with a touchstone night and day for the ages of the ages.' As for what "the ages of the ages" means, because "αἰών (aiṓn)" means either "lifetime" or "age," I would say it will be over a thousand years at least.

[@zelenisok]

Ibn Taymiyyah himself, and also Ibn Arabi held that hell is temporary for everyone who goes there.

[@Litewiz]

I really love Dr. Shabir Ally, he represents islam very well, kindly, wise. Many could learn from his ways.

[@bariizlam638]

What an enlightened answer

[@MsKys3.14]

This gives hope for the non Muslims and who are good in their heart and loved

[@kingbro3369]

VERY INTERESTING! As long as Hell REMAINS, so one day Allah could erase it, very mindblowing for me!

[@Rosyrasul4654]

But the purpose of hell is to recompense the wrongdoers for what they have earned. Thats makes much more sense to me and that is what Allah says in the Quran rather than just expressing His anger or purifying them. Hell is something we earn if we do bad.

[@user-yo9xs8tl5o]

But how could anyone earn eternal punishment? Especially a finite weak human being.

[@taaramv2419]

Allah says in the quran "abadah" forever and this sheikh is telling me that allah was bluffing? Allah also says sin of shirk will never be forgiven if he dies without tauba. If its unforgivable sin of hell, the hell should be forever to punish those unforgivable sins though.. there's nothing to argue here. Allah says forever. It means forever. Allah never says something and bluff

[@aliimran9929]

I totally agree with Dr Shabir Ally, Allah's quality of Rahman and Raheem will be justified i think so. I imagine Allah SWT this way, you cleared my 52 years stuck mind on this. Jizak Allah.

[@talibahmuslimah1535]

This is a christian concept that God is all love which is why they are free doing what they want, Allah is just no one who will be in hell did not deserve to be there especially in this day and age where Islam is everywhere.

[@arizaslam1380]

Now the meaning of most merciful is cleared... Thank you so much... This video is just like lifting a heavy burden on my soul... My heart is happy now... We all are sinner... And the thought of staying in hell forever is so horrible

[@truthsayer7172]

The follow up questions were really good.

[@williampz244]

Hellfire is not eternal, the word "khalidina" and "abad" it also means for a long time. read also V.128 to V.130 (An-naam) in arabic: ila macha allahu which means "except what God wants" From 103 to 108 (Hud) v23 (an-naba) in arabic V.35 (Al jaathiya ) the prophet mohamed talked about the last person in the hellfire who after he go in paradise in hadith Muslim Bukhari God wrote in a book my mercy precedes my anger

[@tejasaabsaab5129]

Please everyone be nice to each other. And be a good Muslim.😎

[@billsamuls7620]

YOU DONT HAVE TO BELIEVE TO BE GOOD

[@Gowila]

I think people being in hell “forever” means that after all the punishment is complete the hell and the people of hell will not exist. It will be turned into nothing. Hence “forever”. There’s no exit for you until it seeks to exist. And for paradise it’s forever because it is a place of residence for those did good.

[@Dr.Strange5678]

Hellfire for disbelievers is forever. This fool doesn't know what he is talking about. Sahih al-Bukhari 4730: Narrated Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri: Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "On the Day of Resurrection Death will be brought forward in the shape of a black and white ram. Then a call maker will call, 'O people of Paradise!' Thereupon they will stretch their necks and look carefully. The caller will say, 'Do you know this?' They will say, 'Yes, this is Death.' By then all of them will have seen it. Then it will be announced again, 'O people of Hell !' They will stretch their necks and look carefully. The caller will say, 'Do you know this?' They will say, 'Yes, this is Death.' And by then all of them will have seen it. Then it (that ram) will be slaughtered and the caller will say, 'O people of Paradise! Eternity for you and no death, O people of Hell ! Eternity for you and no death."' Then the Prophet(ﷺ), recited:-- 'And warn them of the Day of Regret when the case has been concluded, and [yet], they are in [a state of] heedlessness and they do not believe.'(Quran Surah Maryam 19:39)

[@AssanCamara-f1s]

I admire Dr Shabbir a lot. I always feel troubled when I read a verse in the Quran mentioning eternal hell for some people will specific evil deeds. I can't really understand, but Allah knows best and may Allah bless all those people who feel that they may have wrong interpretation of what the Quran is really saying.

[@_pax19_]

8:33 i totally love this line. Dr. Shabir Ally is such a wonderful person!

[@AM-ub3nh]

you are right, Quran says that Jews and christians used to say none other than jews and christians would enter paradise. "The Jews and Christians each claim that none will enter Paradise except those of their own faith. These are their desires. Reply, ˹O Prophet,˺ “Show ˹me˺ your proof if what you say is true.”" Quran 2:111 Now some Muslims seems to say the exact thing. The judgment is for God, we are not to judge anyone, we should only see if we are on righteous path and think where we will end up, in Hell or Heaven

[@abqadirmir]

with although respect, Dr. Shabir ally did not let the Quran speak with not referring to even one verse of Quran about the topic. he spoke from himself

[@nazamguffoor2614]

The video did make reference to Surah 7:156

[@omerali2690]

In Quran 6:128, it is mentioned that hell will be forever, but then the exception is given, that is, except if your Lord wills otherwise. In Surah Hud verses 106-108, there is description of people of hell and heaven. When God describes heaven, He says that heaven will remain forever except if your Lord wills otherwise, but the. The verse continues with the expresion that your Lord will not go against His promise. But when Hell is mentioned, Allah says that Hell will remain forever, except if your Lord wills otherwise and then Allah says that He will do whatever He wills. This difference should be pondered upon.

[@wolfblockstrike2924]

@@omerali2690 allah says he will never forgive SHERK which is partnering someone with god, so those people will forever remain in hell

[@tingnannatinnangmalaman9454]

@@wolfblockstrike2924 a man who is ungrateful to Allah all of his life here on earth and he did a lot of sin that we cannot imagine. but how long he lived his entire life? 100 years? if Allah is just, and for sure he is just, then how could the punishment of that man be forever when he just lived for a hundred years? does a hundred years punishment is not enough to pay for his crimes? it may seem forever to us isnt it?

[@ReviewPlaza]

Surah An-Nisa, Ayah 169: "Except for those who repent, believe and do righteous work. For them Allah will replace their evil deeds with good. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful." Surah At-Taghabun, Ayah 10: "But those who disbelieved and denied Our signs - those are the companions of the Fire, abiding eternally therein. And wretched is the destination." Surah Al-Ahzab, Ayah 65: "Abiding therein forever, they will not find a protector or a helper." Surah Al-Baqarah, Ayah 39: "And those who disbelieve and deny Our signs - those will be companions of the Fire; they will abide therein eternally." Surah Al-Hashr, Ayah 17: "So the end of both will be that they will be in the Fire, abiding therein eternally. Such is the recompense of the wrongdoers." Surah Al-Ma'idah, Ayah 37: "They will wish to get out of the Fire, but never are they to emerge therefrom, and for them is an enduring punishment."

[@mustaphasow350]

Dr Shabir Ally ,thanks for your phenomenon lectures you have been given to us

[@Geralt_of_Rivia7]

Amazingly explained Mash'Allah :) easy to understand, concise yet fully detailed. May Allah bless Dr Shabbir forevermore 🙏🏻

[@thehourglassfan3515]

Amen.

[@malicksecka8743]

Ameen

[@Jay-op4dv]

so he's saying that Satan won't be in Hell forever???

[@MohammadUsman-xc7rr]

Salaam! Dr Shabir, Regarding your view about finite nature of eternal hell fire, Kindly compare it with Sura 35 verse 36 of the Holy Quran that says “ As for those who disbelieve, for them is the fire of hell wherein they will never be finished off and die, nor will it’s punishment be lightened for them. Though We will repay every ingrate” I will much appreciate your response! Jzklh

[@TheMiketyson9]

You have a point.

[@calonstanni]

I have been absolutely HATIng what Ive been hearing about the Islam religion lately but Dr Shabir Ally is such a refreshing voice of logic and If I were god, I'd make him my "front man." The things he says and his adherence to the words of the Quran instead of every other hadith seems so reasonable to me. I could see Islam becoming a kinder and embraceable religion if more muslims were like him.

[@sorrynotsorry4257]

This makes a lot of sense Allah is the most merciful and he says everything he has enumerated in a clear register which is seen. He is the most merciful and provided us with life as well as judgement for our actions. Hell is created by the anger of god which is from the sins of man solely, not from god himself, however the mercy of god and his eternal giving is from god. Hell is created from the sins of men which means it will only last until the sins of mankind have been gone. The universe is created for so long that humans have been sinned so much it feels like it will be forever for a creation of man. But remember that people will abide based on their sins and no single soul will be unjustly put in hell. Since this universe is finite, although there is a long time that hell will last, it can’t last forever. But the question that remains now is will god’s mercy be bestowed upon those that suffered hell and will they go to heaven after that or will they cease to exist. But since god's mercy encompasses everyone they may go to heaven after they suffered hell. In this case everyone would be in heaven at one point in time but why doesn't god mention this to us in the Quran in a clear way? Maybe that's part of the test to see how much you trust in god's mercy.

[@TheRawring2000s]

God be like: BEHOOOOLDDDD I'm coming with the clouds~ Us: NO GOD PLZ NO NO GOD PLZ NO GOD NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

[@sash8099]

How can they go to heaven though? It's a reward for believers only.

[@dgansken]

The wisdom behind eternal hellfire is that if a non believers were to live eternally he would never believe in Allah, therefore he deserves eternal hellfire. Dr Ally always brings forward most controversial opinions

[@thehourglassfan3515]

With all due respect, this is absolute nonsense my friend. Nobody knows that, if let’s say someone rejects a certain religion at one point of his life he may come back on his word after deriving to different conclusions, it happened to me many, many times. A longer life implies changing your mind over certain topics. Let me use a different example if someone is a Muslim one day, there’s no assurance he will still be the next day and this is why we ask God to “Guide us to the True Path.” Also, your analogy is greatly flawed because you said IF, let’s say for arguments’ sake that you were right then what would be the point of creating him in the first place knowing he would never listen to his Creator? No, Dr. Ally does not bring forward controversial opinions, he’s using some evidence as well as his intellect but if you don’t want to listen to them then what’s the point of even watching his videos? 🙂

[@Player-pj9kt]

This is not a valid argument considering that people change all the time

[@tianshisake2730]

Allah the almighty and the most Merciful will never reject anyone that turns to him and repent and ask for forgiveness from him. May Allah give the kind souls his mercy and Jannah.

[@shahinshah1907]

Aameen.

[@Phantomreports4]

mashallah, may Allah bless you guys

[@GregS4Jesus]

The Bible says God will not keep His anger forever, but it says His mercy will be forever. It says all flesh will come to Him, the spirit of all will return to God who gave it, Rev 5:13, all created beings will eventually give praise to God in worship, Psalm 66:4, All the earth shall worship You And sing praises to You; They shall sing praises to Your name.” Selah 1 Cor 15:28 God will finally be "All in all", Act 3:21 God will restore everything, everyone. Rev 21 God says "Behold, I make all things new!" Death will be destroyed, which is the last enemy, so there will be no more death, no more second death, no more hell, which was included in the second death, hell will be no more. God desires all to be saved, He has the power to change our hearts, He will do everything He desires according to Isaiah 46:10.

[@muntahashakeel5609]

Lots of love and respect from Kashmir♥️♥️♥️

[@shashankphansikar7094]

Is it true about the harassment of the Indian army ?? Or are you from POK or China occupied Kashmir ?

[@tinyyoutuber.2091]

@@shashankphansikar7094 there isn't any POK, there's IOK, indian occupied kashmir! And indian army is doing genocide there.

[@federicopettinicchio]

In my understanding, our time is on the 4th dimension, Hell's time is on a further dimension while Heaven's is further still. Eventually time becomes space as its dimension is completed. As time ends on a dimension space is born on the dimension above, and the Quran says the Heavens are being expanded, Hell will end too because its time will just become new land for Heaven and the souls of the inhabitants of Hell, purified in the process, will naturally be raised to Heaven as their infinity is but a finite struggle looked at from above.

[@Design--om2zx]

You just gave me an idea that in hellfire time passes differently and although it lasts forever, it won't be unjust.

[@federicopettinicchio]

@@Design--om2zx Perhaps more than that. Who knows, maybe in Heaven each believer knows when their loved ones are bound to ascend from Hell at the latest. It is Heaven after all, and I fear the cries of mothers separated from their sons as they see their suffering might just drown Heaven in sorrow otherwise.

[@Design--om2zx]

@@federicopettinicchio yes, it's a possibility

[@E-Riot65]

@@Design--om2zx howcome eternal agony is not unjust ?

[@Design--om2zx]

@@E-Riot65 I don't know it might be the time or something

[@gaynormossop1678]

I found your explanation very informative and gave me something to think about because it's a subject I've wondered about I'm non Muslim and I've thought about becoming Muslim. It's troubled me that as a non Muslim I won't go to paradise and your explanation has eased my mind a lot

[@yasmineyasmine4644]

I think u should consider becoming a muslim like the fact that ur here means that u have faith in ur heart may allah guide u 💗

[@theastronomer5800]

Search for a video called "Laughing at Unbelievers in Hell?". It will give you some good ideas.

[@تيريزا-ط6و]

The interpretation of this man is wrong. The Qur’an says that non-Muslims will be in Hell forever

[@Dr.Strange5678]

Hellfire for disbelievers is forever. This fool doesn't know what he is talking about. Sahih al-Bukhari 4730: Narrated Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri: Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "On the Day of Resurrection Death will be brought forward in the shape of a black and white ram. Then a call maker will call, 'O people of Paradise!' Thereupon they will stretch their necks and look carefully. The caller will say, 'Do you know this?' They will say, 'Yes, this is Death.' By then all of them will have seen it. Then it will be announced again, 'O people of Hell !' They will stretch their necks and look carefully. The caller will say, 'Do you know this?' They will say, 'Yes, this is Death.' And by then all of them will have seen it. Then it (that ram) will be slaughtered and the caller will say, 'O people of Paradise! Eternity for you and no death, O people of Hell ! Eternity for you and no death."' Then the Prophet(ﷺ), recited:-- 'And warn them of the Day of Regret when the case has been concluded, and [yet], they are in [a state of] heedlessness and they do not believe.'(Quran Surah Maryam 19:39)

[@mtganfilm]

The man is an Olympian at mental gymnastics. It's truly impressive.

[@SG-nu7go]

The Quran literally says, “and they will abide therein FOREVER.” Seems pretty clear to me.

[@nakinaki7991]

TRUE THAT

[@muntahashakeel5609]

Always enlighting 😊

[@ayoobhussein1143]

I am mostly in agreement with Silver scorpion 17 (ss17) it is true mostly that if u do the right actions together with right intention u will be in bliss but at a higher level the mercy of god overides everything including punishment that is why he destined a prostitute to bliss because of her pure intention and right action So I this world do what u du is right and inthe next uworld u will be in bliss God's mercy overides everything else in this world and in the next So samianaa was athaana (I believed and did the right action ) Hence come what may continue doing sujood till u are no more

[@evenstar3541]

Many thanks Dr. SABIR❤

[@laminjassey4572]

Allah doesn't contradict Himself when he saya Halidina fiha Abadan. Some people choose evil, pure evil and they admit evil, some embrace evil, some are proud Of evil. Eg, Hitler and Iblis. If they happen to hear this they'll smile atleast. Allah says Forever! If it's true that hell is not forever then Allah will surly state it clearly that hell is temporary and Allah is not the author of confusion. May Allah increase us in knowledge. Eh.

[@Design--om2zx]

Exactly what i was thinking. Imagine living in jannah and seeing Hitler in there because his sentence is over. Doesn't make sense. Such people just Didn't deserve it. Again, eternal hellfire is too much as well. I just don't know what to believe now. I'm in the middle. They didn't deserve to ever enter Jannah, but eternity in hell is kind of bad as well.

[@mohamedbinishaq3169]

@@Design--om2zx just look at this this way Allah will free anyone in a hadith Allah freed everyone with a coin of good deed and then Allah said that he will anyone with half a good deed and then Allah freed everyone who didn't even have a good deed so imagine hitler but worse because hitler had to alteast do one good deed but these people had no good deeds but these people might have been believer but they are worse than hitler. But the real question will disbelievers ever be released that is the question only Allah knows that but Allah will forever anyone even worse than hitler

[@Design--om2zx]

@@mohamedbinishaq3169 disbelievers will abide in it forever. I can't believe that it's been 3 months since I've wrote that comment. It honestly feels like 3-4 weeks. But yeah, Dunya is short indeed. Anyways, as I was saying, disbelievers will be In jahannam forever, with no parole. Not everyone will be in the same place though, some will be In weaker levels of jahannam where they don't experience much pain, while others who were terrible will be put into depths of hell in most extreme pains. That's pretty much it. This world is a temporary place where we build our homes for hereafter. The home you build for yourself is the one you'll be in forever, be it a good place or bad place. Take an example of the school system. Mainly the final exam. You have few days to prepare for it, and your entire life depends on it. That's fair. That's why it's fair for hellfire to be eternal because it's what you have built for yourself.

[@MustafaAli-lb8dq]

Hitler and Muslims both hate J... So there is a possibility that Hitler might go to heaven but he won't because he committed suicide.

[@superwatcher456]

@@Design--om2zx still I think even hitler being tortured for all eternity, philosophically seems quite saddening. And if I apply that to the greater world, I feel sad. I shouldn't be attached to this world, but still, I'm human and think about fellow people. Imagine having non-believing family members that you love, non believing friends? I just wish for God's mercy to encompass it so that hell is not eternal.

[@Astrodudespace]

Okay, Dr. Shabby Ally is smart and has beneficial knowledge. May الله invite him to Jannah.

[@wajahatsgamingclub7850]

Thank you.I have been looking for this answer forever.

[@ThePreparedMuslim]

The entire lecture has no word, no quotes, only ideas. This channel is leading people astray.

[@Ahmad-le6ys]

The speaker is a well established scholar and is giving his view which is expressed by scholars before him as well. I disagree with him but no need to brand him as leading people astray. We should look at ourselves if our faith is led astray by a youtube video.

[@mainulhusainkhan1333]

@@Ahmad-le6ys well said bro

[@rehbar2600]

@@Ahmad-le6ys well said bro but i do agree with him

[@ThePreparedMuslim]

@@Ahmad-le6ys brother, I respect that you are speaking with patience and reason. We both know many scholars disagree, so we look to the Quran and Hadiths to understand. Nowhere does it say that we should go from our interpretation and contradict the words of the Quran, or adjust for culture, or for what seems to hard to us. We cannot possibly understand Allah swt, and it is us that need to adjust to His words, not his words that need to adjust to our sensibilities. I see a lot of the latter in this channel with feminist ideology and apologetics, which I find to be quite dangerous to Islam. That is why I believe this channel is leading people astray, and because of my love for our faith I am sharing this observation as a warning. I am free to share this here, as are you, and may Allah swt provide us all with understanding and discernment.

[@ThePreparedMuslim]

@@Ahmad-le6ys and every KZbin video counts, especially because of his status as a scholar. This idea will make people think that if hellfire is not forever, perhaps they can enter jannah through a back door, and that all paths lead to jannah. Allah swt gave us a SEVERE warning, and said clearly FOREVER. This scholar's entire argument is that somehow forever doesn't mean forever? This is the kind of word and meaning destruction we see in the West, and we all see what that has led to. Loss of truth. Tolerance of dilution of the Qu'ran is not the way forward brother.

[@sabriya7647]

Ibn Taymiyaa also held this position. His very last book, called Fanaa Al-Naar (the extinguishment of the fire), was dedicated to proving that Hell was not eternal. A lot of people try to contradict this opinion of his by referring to his earliers statements, but noone can deny that his very last statement on the matter was his book which argued for a non eternal hell. Ibn Qayyims book included several of Ibn Taymiyyas arguments.

[@reflection5057]

Even though ibne Taymiyah might have held this view but the assertion that fanaa an naar is his book is absolutely not right!! This book is actually a Refutation of ibne Taymiyah

[@AbdurrahmanDem]

ibn Taymiyya is from Ahlud Dalal not from Ahlus Sunnah.

[@ibrahimmohammedibrahim9273]

​@@AbdurrahmanDemthe people that hate ibn taymiyyah either asheri or sufi or shia Apparently you are one of them

[@Ndms467]

Alhamdulillah always enlighten with your insight sir

[@Faiz-c2l]

Saw it again!need part 2

[@truthoverfalsehood__8757]

What is the worst possible action a human can think of? Rebel against God and associate partners with Him. What is the worst possible punishment a human can think of ? Eternal hell. Worst possible action = Worst possible punishment Hell is for ever and ever, the believer is the direct opposite of the disbeliever and they will have the direct opposite outcome.

[@humanbeing9096]

Astagfirullah, Jahannam is forever for some people - clearly mentioned in Qur'an. Unbelievable 🤦‍♂️

[@noon6394]

Exactly! As mentioned here So taste [punishment] because you forgot the meeting of this, your Day; indeed, We have [accordingly] forgotten you. And taste the punishment of eternity for what you used to do."

[@noon6394]

They should also say heaven is not forever and we will die again 😂

[@ef2883]

yep the reasoning is: Those who do more evil than good in a limited lifetime, are capable of an infinite amount of evil if given an infinite lifetime, and hence deserve eternal damnation...

[@ef2883]

@@noon6394 yep the reasoning is: Those who do more evil than good in a limited lifetime, are capable of an infinite amount of evil if given an infinite lifetime, and hence deserve eternal damnation...

[@Al-NABIL-ISLAM.]

@@noon6394 There is an exception to this rule

[@محمدب-ر3ل]

That is a lie because ibn al qayyim in his final books redacted what he said and reaffirmed the Sunni position that hell is forever

[@fidelcatsro6948]

Takbeer!!!

[@tommy2972]

Ill take a beer....thanks.

[@fidelcatsro6948]

@@tommy2972 nope we only serve coke ....Takbeer means God of Abraham akbar!!

[@tommy2972]

@@fidelcatsro6948 god is the biggest

[@fidelcatsro6948]

@@tommy2972 God is the Greatest!!

[@tommy2972]

@@fidelcatsro6948 nope....just the biggest.

[@ibnqirnas]

Do not take people's word for it. Allah says: خَالِدِينَ فِيهَا ۖ لَا يُخَفَّفُ عَنْهُمُ الْعَذَابُ وَلَا هُمْ يُنظَرُونَ (162) البقرة. خَالِدِينَ فِيهَا لَا يُخَفَّفُ عَنْهُمُ الْعَذَابُ وَلَا هُمْ يُنظَرُونَ (88) آل عمران. They will immortalize in it, their suffering will not be relieved, and Allah will not care about them.

[@livinghuman1961]

Allah is a monster then , torturing someone for just don't believe in you

[@Joleyn-Joy]

06:06 when I was a Christian I had a similar perspective but this system of thinking only works without hard predestination which is common in many Muslim circles. In my view omnipotence means being able to do all potential actions but God (as he's all good) doesn't have the potential to be evil. He's still omnipotent because the action of God being evil is like asking if God could make a squared ball : no but that's not even an action. So he's omnipotent but due to his goodness he imparted free will on people and people's sin create hell. I don't think such a vision can be held in Islam though.

[@Die4youtoo]

Jesus Christ is the author of life, the perfecter and finisher of our faith, this is grace upon grace -love immeasurable forever.

[@arbaazkareem8772]

Allah will do as he wills. Who is to question his might? He is all knowing . This question will be answered when we die. Allah has not given us the knowledge to understand about this topic. Only signs

[@alhamdulillhforislam458]

Agreed yes Allah almighty knows the best not human being

[@ntdtmn2111]

Agree. We can only discuss and talk about it, but at the end of the day, we don’t know. Allah knows best. The only thing we can do is to follow Allah guidance and pray for forgiveness. I feel that it is so wrong when someone claims that they know best and start pointing fingers at others.

[@MrAbouri]

This guy talks as he knows what will happen. I am confused after listening to him…

[@aftabansari9723]

Allah doesn't just do things on a whim. That's is disrespectful to Allah. Everything he does has a reason. Allah encourages us to educate ourselves and learn why things are so.

[@hzhz4768]

In the light of eternity any non-eternal punishment means nothing at all

[@TheUneducatedTeacher]

Pretty sure burning in Hell, even for a second is definitely something. KM Hemmans The KZbinr

[@aftabansari9723]

Eternal punishment of a finite creature is unnecessary and means nothing aswell

[@nafisanwari6288]

Thank you for a though-provoking video. What I would like to ask is: Even If Allah (swt) eventually ends hell, will the mindset of the evildoers change? Like when they go to heaven, will those people start causing trouble again? And in that case, will Allah (swt) punish them again? I also would like to know another point. I understand people who are judged to go to heaven on the day of judgment will remain in heaven forever. However, none of the people are perfect. It's just that their good deeds outweighed the bad deeds. In that case, is it possible that some of their actions in Heaven may be opposite of good behaviour? So, will they be punished in that case?

[@Yameen200]

Very interesting questions for sure. its believed that people who qualify for heaven would be purified before entering, think of bathing in some sort of magical water that purifies you. There are scripture verses saying people will be removed of all spite and evil tendencies. This purificiation also makes sense from a psychological view of life burnout. People would hold all sorts of baggage and trauma from the problems of the world. This purification would cleanse all the baggage and heal people as if they were innocent kids unaffected by adult problems. Anyhow thats just my theory that i think makes logical sense. The evils in the world affect you and some ppl go through pains to a point where even the thought of going to heaven is meaningless to them.

[@XavierBodd]

@@Yameen200 if reciting the shahada and becoming a believer wipes your previous sins then it would make sense your remaining sins could be wiped when you enter paradise. But obviously, this is all just speculation

[@Yameen200]

@@XavierBodd Look into NDEs. These people feel free of the worldly problems.

[@ultiumlabs4899]

in paradise only happiness, no sadness, I think we all agree with this. this leads us to another conclusion: the people in there must be perfect in their actions.

[@axz4426]

@@Yameen200 and maybe hell is the more violent purifying process? he said the same way metals have to be heated to be purified

[@faisalrashid5012]

I have heard this view form Dr Israr Ahmed who was a famous scholar from Pakistan but he also foretold another theory which was of Ibn-ul-Arabi who was sheikh Akbar he said that at one point Heaven and hell both will come to end and the soul will go to the place from where it was created form "Alamal Arwah " This is the place where our soul were created .

[@Dr.Strange5678]

Hellfire for disbelievers is forever. This fool doesn't know what he is talking about. Sahih al-Bukhari 4730: Narrated Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri: Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "On the Day of Resurrection Death will be brought forward in the shape of a black and white ram. Then a call maker will call, 'O people of Paradise!' Thereupon they will stretch their necks and look carefully. The caller will say, 'Do you know this?' They will say, 'Yes, this is Death.' By then all of them will have seen it. Then it will be announced again, 'O people of Hell !' They will stretch their necks and look carefully. The caller will say, 'Do you know this?' They will say, 'Yes, this is Death.' And by then all of them will have seen it. Then it (that ram) will be slaughtered and the caller will say, 'O people of Paradise! Eternity for you and no death, O people of Hell ! Eternity for you and no death."' Then the Prophet(ﷺ), recited:-- 'And warn them of the Day of Regret when the case has been concluded, and [yet], they are in [a state of] heedlessness and they do not believe.'(Quran Surah Maryam 19:39)

[@apostlenancykanyogo6064]

Revelation 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

[@miyaiun4723]

Does it mean a total destruction when it talks about rhe second death?

[@marciomaia4020]

"Do you think God would use language so impreciselly?" A very good question that was completely ignored lol 😆 😂 🤣

[@alismith1618]

Exactly my thoughts lol. Even the host wasnt buying his explanation.

[@marciomaia4020]

@@alismith1618 I know right lol

[@jaywalker6464]

Allah use English idiom for Quran, yeah sure buddy...lol

[@marciomaia4020]

@@jaywalker6464 what?

[@jaywalker6464]

@@marciomaia4020 i mean when he said "it's taking forever"

[@omark7164]

Hell for the disbelievers will be forever. Whoever claims otherwise has gone against the Quran, sunnah and ijma and is considered to be a blasphemer.

[@omark7164]

@@thehourglassfan3515 Allah has said it in al Quran. Who are you to deny al Quran?

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@@thehourglassfan3515 If anyone hears that there is a religion that calls to the worship of one God, and that Muhammad is the messenger of God, and then rejects this message - then he will be judged to everlasting torment in hellfire. I’m sorry for his loss. May Allah make it easy upon him and lessen his grief❤️

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@@thehourglassfan3515 If he heard about Islam and believed in Christianity instead, then he will be among the people of hell. وَالَّذِي نَفْسُ مُحَمَّدٍ بِيَدِهِ لاَ يَسْمَعُ بِي أَحَدٌ مِنْ هَذِهِ الأُمَّةِ يَهُودِيٌّ وَلاَ نَصْرَانِيٌّ ثُمَّ يَمُوتُ وَلَمْ يُؤْمِنْ بِالَّذِي أُرْسِلْتُ بِهِ إِلاَّ كَانَ مِنْ أَصْحَابِ النَّارِ ‏"‏ The prophet said: “There is no Jew or Christian that doesn’t believe in what I came with, except that he is among the people of hellfire.”

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@@thehourglassfan3515 Why would I say that to him. If he is a Muslim, he would know. If he is a Christian, why would I tell him anything that he doesn’t believe in? Thats not the way to teach someone something. But in any way whatsoever, I would never bend or adjust the rules of the religion. If Islam says something, I hear and I obey. Someone that denied, belied and belittles Allah and his messenger, his akhirah is well known.

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@@thehourglassfan3515 How can you say that the Hadith of the prophet is a horrible thing? Don’t insert your feelings into the religious law. May Allah guide you❤️

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So Shabir Ally is comparing our imprecise use of words to the way Allah speak in the Quran? Astagfirullah