R/C News: Radiomaster GX12 Customisable ELRS Radio (with both 2.4Ghz, 900Mhz and Gem-X support!)

[@swissfreek]

I know it’s a silly little thing, but I’m so happy they finally figured out how to charge and do data from a single USB-C port.

[@4BrothersRC]

I love the features of this little radio, internal storage, a single USB-C port for charging and data transfer, and Gemini X. I would love to see these features implemented into a TX16s MKIII!

[@alexbringhurst8881]

This looks sweet! Now I’m gonna have to study up on the Gemini stuff. Hopefully you’ve made a video about that already, Lee, because you’re so good at explaining things.

[@Painless360]

I've made a few, search for 'Gemini' on the channel to find them... best of luck

[@BullFrog96]

This radio looks nice but all I want is a Boxer with a color touch screen and like two more switches. The Boxer is still the most comfortable radio I have ever held.

[@KyrreXXL]

Have you seen the Jumper T15? It is in essence a Boxer with color touch screen?

[@BullFrog96]

@ yes. I still prefer the Boxer over the T15. I have considered it though but when I see comparisons of the radios side by side I still like the boxer better.

[@swissfreek]

@@KyrreXXLThe T15 the same issue with not enough switches.

[@swissfreek]

I totally agree! If it had 4x 3-pos switches instead of 2x 2- and 2x 3-, I could live with it, but as it is it’s not enough.

[@BullFrog96]

@@swissfreek boxer is still my daily driver with the TX16s as a back up. I like the amount of switches on the TX16 I just thinks it’s way to uncomfortable.

[@MCsCreations]

Fantastic review, Lee! Thanks!!! 😃 Finally a Gemini X radio! ❤ Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@husky041]

I believe there is gimbal adjustment through the rear, to easily enable changing the radio to mode 1. Screws are under the rubber grips

[@aa7jc]

Seems like a great value packed little transmitter! You could buy three of these for the price of a single NX10

[@ryanrekz7744]

And you have many times the range of it

[@bulufish8208]

Spent so much on the Radiomaster tx16s Luminier. Is the best radio i have had and i have big hands. Hopefully these new radios works for those new newcomers to our hobby 😀.

[@lleston8927]

I am amazed. Frsky take note!😀 we just need more PWM ELRS receivers!

[@dayworkhard]

Who is still buying FrSky now?

[@Zoey_the_Rat]

​@@dayworkhard scale copy psychos. For some reason, I don't imagine the connection is more stable than crossfire or elrs

[@charlesmcguire9711]

Cheers Lee. There are gimbal adjustments under the grips and the extra little cover in the back. Wish this was better setup for pinchers. Seems more are more are caring less and less about pincher ergonomics. Thank you for your hard work.

[@pfeerick]

Correct. Adjustment for one gimbal is under the rubber cap Lee wasn't sure of at 13:08, and the one for the other gimbal is in the battery bay. I think you can only adjust the vertical endstops (from the front and throttle spring (from the rear) without opening the case up.

[@dayworkhard]

I’m holding a RM TX16S Mark 2 with an external Gemini Cross-band TX module (RM nomad). I like the form factor. The only uncool thing is that it’s too big for carrying outdoors.

[@kevinsmith9420]

I couldn't agree more with your protective film choice. I've never understood having to take it off all your devices but put a screen protector on your phone?

[@pfeerick]

The protective film that is on the display is the one that the screen manufacturer puts on to protect the screen during assembly and manufacture. RM (and other manufacturers) just leave it on to keep it protected until you (the end user) want to remove it. I usually leave mine on a couple of weeks then remove them before the start to bubble or the adhesive starts going funny (if there is any). Personally I would love if there was an option of tempered glass screen protectors... BetaFPV managed to find (and include) some with their LR3Pro handset.

[@HappyRCFlyer]

Wow, this is pretty impressive technology! 😃

[@JeffWok]

Very excited! Love the switch options.

[@rooibaard123-w8m]

Only problem i have with this 6button on the newer radios is that it switches back to "button 1" when you power your radio off and on. So i used to switch my radio of on the auto missions (fc is programmed to stay on auto instead of rth) but the moment you switch your radio back on your flight mode changes back to button 1 flight mode...i know i can set button 1 to auto but my point is it would have been nice if the last button would stay in the radio memory...so when you switch your radio on it stays on the last 6button channel it was on before you switched off.

[@pfeerick]

The newer radios that have customisable switches don't have this issue... You can configure the switches in whatever groups you want ( i.e. a bank of 6, two lots of 3, three lots of 2, individual latching switches, momentary switches, etc)... and you can also configure the startup state. It is the older generation radios with emulated 6pos switch that would always reset to the first position.

[@rooibaard123-w8m]

@@pfeerick Thank you for your reply.. Do you know if the radiomaster boxer can be configured in the "start-up state"? i have watched most youtube tutorials regarding the boxer and haven't seen any mentioning of this function....the boxer is a relatively new radio... i think.

[@pfeerick]

@rooibaard123-w8m No. This only applies to radios with the customisable switches capability. The Boxer still has the emulated 6pos hardware, so radio firmware has no control over what the 6pos buttons and leds do. The GX12 is RMs first offering with customisable switch capabilities... prior to that it was only Jumper (i.e. TPro, T15, T20)

[@rooibaard123-w8m]

@@pfeerick Thanks...appreciate the info.👌

[@mikbacitube]

Looks I just found my back up radio /elrs radio.

[@jingadin5181]

gimble adjustments are from the outside, in the front and in the back behind the grips

[@Painless360]

Thanks, check out the video on the channel today. Happy flying!

[@alexislechevalier1022]

Thanks for the video. Really impressive indeed. Cheers

[@husky041]

Very nice, and isn't it just typical.. I ordered some AG01 gimbals for my TX16S just two days ago, for £130. Nearly the cost of this GX12!

[@dayworkhard]

Yes. AG01 gimbals are overpriced.

[@husky041]

@@dayworkhard Probably! I've fitted them now and they certainly are nice. A luxury though

[@johnchandler4565]

That looks amazing, nice video Lee. My only wish would be the ability to swap out the 900MHz ELRS for a 4-in-1 multi protocol module, giving me the option of switching between internal 2.4GHz ELRS or 2.4GHz 4-in-1. I have no need for 900MHz long range, however, I do have a lot of legacy models that need a 4-in-1 MPM.

[@Painless360]

The option would be to add an MPM to the bay at the back. Happy flying!

[@kaiachimkropp245]

if it only had a color touch screen ;-) T-15 killer right out of the box!

[@dubzsquaredfpv7171]

It's like the Zorro and the Pocket had a baby.

[@rakr9334]

and it got suspiciously boxer-sized.

[@MofiFpv]

My exact thought, the zorro bt upgraded 😅

[@OrLove13]

Выглядит бомбезно.Огонь !

[@AverageFPV]

Hi Lee, seems like your video and audio is a bit desynced, you show the unboxing while talking about the gimbals and lcd screen? Thank you for the great review nonetheless 👍🏽

[@monami5201]

Must admit all i am waiting for is the Boxer with a few more switches and diversity antennas on 2.4 only. Is 900 really needed. Why have another set of receivers, most elrs i have, already have diversity antennas so putting on the tx would complient it.

[@slange455]

Looks good maybe to thick for pinching but heading in good direction. Larger color touch screen and thinner would make it awesome…basically want a Frsky x20 lol

[@BrainDeadEngineering]

Nailed it ! That TX is sick ! I only ever owned a Futaba and a TX16s . I can see the Fut screen ( i thing monochrome ) outdoors, the 16 I cant see nothing 😡. You can see the this type of displays better outdoors ?

[@VladTepes44]

It does seem like a great radio and I am eager to see what that switch customizability can bring to the hobby. I hope they will bring colored shells soon. Black is a bit boring.

[@Painless360]

If the latest trend is anything to go by, I wouldn't be surprised! :D

[@swissfreek]

I think it’s a little weird that none of those four push-buttons are latching. I may be in the minority, but I kind of like the flat push button style arming and beeper switches like on the Mambo and Boxer. I know the radio comes with a two-pos switch and a momentary switch you can swap in, so you’d get the same result in the end, plus the switch ends are protected by the screen/antenna housing, but I dunno, I think I’d still rather one of those buttons was latching so its out of the way of the mode switches. Maybe they’ll come out with a latching version you can swap in eventually?

[@pfeerick]

The top two on the face are momentary, but should be configurable to be 2POS / latching. They also have their own led to indicate state. I think RM are trying to move away from latching press switches for their compact radios as they have been having issues with quality of the smaller switches.

[@TekRCEU]

Thanks for this great review! Let's hope that CE is coming soon so we can use it legally within the EU :)

[@malte9999]

That is, for now, a technical issue with the LR1121 chips in 868/915 mode and LBT.

[@TekRCEU]

@@malte9999 Exactly, I read a message from Jye at 15/9/2024 about it on Discord: "The more technical reason is that the LR1121 is slow to process SPI packets. So there isnt enough time in 2.4 500Hz to do LBT. I have an idea to fix this later." Not sure if this is the only current problem though. let's hope someone will eventually find a way to fix it so we can all legally use the Nomad module and the new GX12 within Europe.

[@paulwesterveld5900]

I think I'll wait for the version with a color touch screen ala TX16s.

[@andopando-ib8qv]

been using a pocket for ages, does it support multimodules im considering one??

[@Painless360]

Should do, same as any other modern EdgeTX powered radio... Happy flying!

[@Mr.Laidukas]

Good radio, sad it does not have color screen and the nice user interface that comes with color screens and touchscreen. I fly mostly line of sight so I look to that screen quite often and I looking for telemetry. Also I tend to use PC companion for configuration less and less, and configure my planes via on radio screen more and more.

[@jonaswalther9245]

There is information that it is 512Mb of memory, but unfortunately it is not clear whether they have increased the number of models to 60 (like many of the previous models) or if they are making the models in the same way as the TX16S? It also says that it can handle a maximum of 16 channels, does EdgeTX have a limited number of channels? With OpenTX you can run 32 channels, 16 against the internal module and 16 against the external one. I have only seen 12 channel ELRS receivers, but then it should at least be possible to run 12 + 16 channels with a 4 in 1 module on the back of the radio. or indeed 12 + 12 + 16 if you run separate receivers for ELRS 2.4 and 900 and two ACCST D16 8ch against the 4 in 1 module...

[@Painless360]

16 is the number in the docs... www.expresslrs.org/software/switch-config/#summary-of-switch-configuration-modes

[@pjptacek]

@Painless360 I have a dilema. I literally just got a brand new TX16S Max, it is sitting unopened next to me as I'm watching GX12 videos. Since I'm flying mix of quads and planes like you, I was sold on TX16S being the most universal thing, but now, I'm not so sure. Do you believe that smaller GX12 with all the switches, great gimbals, and build in nomad module, could effectively replace TX16S as your daily driver? What are your thoughts on this? If you would have to decide today, would you still go for TX16S or GX12 is the way to go?

[@Painless360]

For the most universal, versatile radio in RadioMaster lineup, the Tx16s is still king. But, all of those features result in a large radio. Happy flying!

[@williammr40kperrysr51]

I see it has TBS Lite on it but imagine it still wont work with Crossfire nano receivers. All my quads have Crossfire. Too many to change over, but love the radio looks and size. Any type of work around??

[@Painless360]

Adding a Crossfire module unto the rear bay. Happy flying!

[@hoanguyenphuong6405]

THIS ONE THAT I REALLY WANTED TO BUY :d

[@tommegg8486]

Was thinking about getting a boxer, and now this released...

[@steilkurbler4973]

That's a pretty interesting radio. Would be really nice if you could measure the distance between both sticks. For some time I am planning on converting a Radiomaster radio to a small formfactor tray style radio (I fly heli and fixed wing and am just much better flying that way) and this one would propably work out the best, if the sticks aren't too narrow.

[@steilkurbler4973]

Nevermind, KremerFPV did measure it. The distance between the sticks is 101mm. If anyone is wondering like I was.

[@ChainsawFPV]

That's friggen genius!!!

[@narr0wm1nd49]

This looks amazing. I would say this isn't the first time Radiomaster did a switch panel choice, the MT12 has the same concept. The only knock here I can see is the display, a color touch screen would have been great.

[@Art_of_Flight]

Thanks for the review! Can anyone tell me, does it mean that the regular Elrs receiver HappyModel EP1 will not work with this remote?

[@Painless360]

It'll work with any of the 2.4ghz recievers... Happy flying

[@Art_of_Flight]

@Painless360 thank you!

[@funknunkl]

Mmmm those gimbals are a bit silly, TBS will no doubt have something to say about them. I've got the pocket and boxer both with ag01 gimbals, not sure if there is a reason for me to upgrade to this radio? Can this radio take AG01s?

[@pfeerick]

@@funknunkl They are actually quite comfortable to use. You might want to watch the video (again?) and see the size of Lees hands when using them... then you'll realise AG01s are about twice their size so won't fit. 🤣 Not that there is any need as they are already hall effect aluminium CNC gimbals. 😉

[@gregory63412]

Nice radio, though top 2 switches on the front panel are bothering me, are they momentary without fixed positions? If so that is a shame as they could serve the arming purpose nicely. The upper changeable panels are super nice to have, same as OLED display (finally!) and diversity dual band transmitter. Looking forward to hands on testing in the field.

[@Painless360]

You can make them operate in any way you want in the menus. Happy flying!

[@pfeerick]

Momentary switch action, but configurable to be 2POS, and has LED for each to indicate if switch is in the down position (i.e. stays on/"down" if configured 2POS).

[@ConceptNull]

@@pfeerick yeah that helps much when you have goggles on...

[@pfeerick]

@@ConceptNull I somehow think if you have goggles on you *might* know if the button does what you configured it to do... Just a guess though... since I only fly FPV...

[@john9663]

lots of buttons and bells, BUT is it easier to use, setup, etc than the industry standard Spektrum? Other than price, why switch? Looking forward to future videos on this radio.

[@Painless360]

Radios are VERY personal things, with some radio systems being a better fit for some parts of the hobby. I came to OpenTX and EdgeTX powered radios from Spektrum about 11 years ago and was blown awat by the power and flexability. But, Spektrum stuff is easy to use, and great for non flight controller stuff. If you want any of the modern stuff to work, then the limited support from Spektrum can cause issues... Happy flying!

[@SparkyFlight]

Can the SA and SD buttons be replaced with toggle switches? That's where I'd like my flap switch.

[@Painless360]

There are some cool things you can do here, I may make a video to show some EdgeTX tricks! :D

[@FlyingBuzzard]

7 different videos from 7 different reviewers on my list I should know everything about this Tx in a few seconds....LOL

[@Painless360]

Pretty much! :D NOTE: We;ve all only had the radios for a handful of days so I wouldn't call any of them a full 'review'. IMHO, you need a product for longer than that to have a fully considered opinion and not just a first impression...

[@FlyingBuzzard]

@@Painless360 True but with that many opinions/reviews , should give one an Up in insight i would think...LOL

[@Painless360]

First impressions or personal opinions. Not reviews 😉

[@FlyingBuzzard]

@@Painless360 Sadly so many hang on every word a Reviewers opinion says and think it is gold and go buy based solely on their favorite YTubers opinion And go buy to learn it is not a good fit for them and based on those opinions alone and they have another one setting around or placed on ebay to sell..>LOL

[@Perun9000]

Can I put aftermarket antenna into the radio?

[@Painless360]

Yes.

[@marcosekurban]

Great video, thanks again! For some just starting, but that would like to fly both drones and fixed wing, is there a more inexpensive (ELRS-capable) option from RM?

[@belliduradespicio8009]

Sure, the Pocket is really inexpensive, the TX12 is also affordable and has a bit more features; both have 2.4ghz models

[@Painless360]

There are, but most struggle with a lack of switches that come in handy for fixed wing...

[@belliduradespicio8009]

Dear Santa...

[@monami5201]

Do these antennas on the tx give diversity on 2.4 only?

[@Painless360]

Check out kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYvIdGiXlKedock

[@don0219]

good looking radio

[@NaorFPV]

check the screws under the hands grip

[@sarahdaviscc]

Not going to replace your Taranis? Is that because of the lack of full size JR bay?

[@Painless360]

I still use Crossfire a little here and the ability to plug any of the dozens of module into a bay easily is something I need here for helping people..

[@enforcer_3574]

Would this radio work with DSMX (Spectrum) recovers? Thinking of going to the dark side but do not want to have to switch the receivers I have now until I know if i want to stay with this radio.

[@slange455]

I’m sure it will or pickup the tx16 with the four in one module

[@pfeerick]

@@enforcer_3574 Not sure if it comes in a 4in1/MPM version, but if it doesn't, you would be able to get a nano bay 4in1 MPM module (i.e. RM sell those also) and then you can use both ELRS and pretty much any other radio protocol you want (including Spektrum DSMX).

[@Painless360]

Yes, you'd need to add a multi-protocol module to the back. See my videos on MPM...

[@swissfreek]

I like that the 6 buttons are RGB. I’m hoping we come up with some cool things to do with that for feedback to the user if you’re not flying FPV.

[@micrathenefpv]

I like it!

[@Zoey_the_Rat]

I like jumper T20's layout more, but it's a lower build quality radio

[@Syed-zp5oi]

Looking like jumper tx

[@mchevalier77]

I wish switch A was a toggle switch.

[@Painless360]

It can be, I'll make a video on how! :D

[@inn0vator535]

Can you sim without a battery?

[@Painless360]

Check out kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYvIdGiXlKedock :D

[@davidjacobs8558]

I want bigger high res full color screen

[@jlacleveland]

Nice goodbye Zorro

[@Fpvpro1]

I'm just getting to know my Taranis 89D plus, slow down y'all.

[@Painless360]

All of them are reviewed on the channel. Sadly most of the smaller, more compact radios (i.e. not the TX16s) are designed with more of the quad flyer in mind so limited switches!

[@rowanballinger3690]

Tbs crossfire is dead now 😂 I’ve replaced all my crossfire stuff with elrs now you can have both frequencies in one radio

[@reggiebannister1080]

radio master 21700 batteryies i tore them down.. all of them are eve brand a no name brand and they are not 5000 mah youll be lucky if you get 2000 mah.. i have 2 packs the tx16s ones both die fast so i tore them down eve batteries there not sony etc.. so build your own packs people just a heads up

[@hoanguyenphuong6405]

but I really hate OLED screen, this must be LCD ! maybe the Google should use OLED , but i dont know why they'er chosen OLED screen for this Radio! This is Worst !OLED cant hold along in outdoor ! especially when exposed to sunlight