Comparing the variants of the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II

[@raafdocumentaries]

CORRECTION: 06:20 should read "carrier" not 'barrier" - wasn't a reference to the emergency barrier. We were referring to standard arresting wires.

[@billlhooo6485]

We have many people hating on the f35 when it first came out and now people understand that the aircraft is good.

[@kazefw3834]

It is the most economical of the 5th gen after all 😂

[@websitemartian]

its hard to describe all of its capabilities

[@DairyCat]

To be fair when it first came out it legitimately had a lot of faults. A lot of those faults have been ironed out since but it's still a legitimate example of major military development cost budget blow out (by almost twice as much as originally budgeted). So yes with tremendous amounts of money and much more time than originally planned it eventually became a good platform.

[@alpenfoxvideo7255]

are we having another F-4 Phantom moment? In 20 years this thing will be everywhere

[@whiteoutgotu]

@@alpenfoxvideo7255 Over 1000 of them are in the skies around the world right now.

[@lobstereleven4610]

The IDF is showing the world just how effective the F35 can be when used in conjunction with other 4/4.5 gen aircraft. Brilliant job

[@goldenageofdinosaurs7192]

@@lobstereleven4610 It’ll get real interesting when they bring out the Block IV variant. Word is that one will offer a ton more computing power & ability. I believe that’s being developed now & should be fitted (and retrofitted) into the planes sometime in the next 3-5(ish) years.

[@oriy775]

@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 Maybe then the F35I won't need an external electronics pod. At the moment the Adir is like your stereotypical Israeli passenger on a commercial jet - always overweight with those extra bags full of Kosher stuff😜

[@redsouth2715]

Unless it’s true, F35i’s were tracked and locked by an unknown radar, causing them to break off before they reached Iranian airspace.

[@celestialsatheist1535]

@@redsouth2715 Iranian wet dreams

[@AA-xo9uw]

@@redsouth2715 Propaganda parroted by the obtuse.

[@AlanToon-fy4hg]

A few years ago I spoke to a man who works at Lockheed Martin building the center wing boxes. He said that basically the F-35s are three different aircraft!

[@JIMDEZWAV]

Outstanding ....

[@fatmanoverlanding]

Seeing this is an Australian sourced site, using metric measurements (or at least provide metric equivalent in captions) would be ideal.

[@thelandofnod123]

Not really, aviation is still SAE, not metric.

[@MilitantOldLady]

When you stop thinking of the 35B as a worse 35A, and think of it as a way better Harrier that it replaced, it makes a whole lot more sense.

[@oriy775]

There's one huge difference between the F35I Adir and the other variants; it's the only one proven as a long-range stealth attack fighter-jet

[@TheJacobshapiro]

The C may be the heaviest, but it’s worth pointing out it also has the lightest wing loading.

[@mab2187]

I personally prefer the A model but with the wings of the C-cus I love bigger wings and the double front wheel, it gives a better look.

[@crazymilitaryaircraft-q9e]

great video. f-35 is still the pinnacle of stealth aircraft, china can never copy it 😐😐😐

[@robertdonnell8114]

There are now 5 F-35 variants: A,B,C, I and now Block 4.

[@jbloun911]

I have the 7th gen version 4.3 turbo 2.0 rounded to the nearest decimal generation at my house

[@DunamisStan]

4:46 The Fleet Air Arm of the Royal Navy also use the F-35B, the USMC aren't the sole operators of the F-35B

[@Idahoguy10157]

My understanding the Italian Navy will take the F-35B to sea.

[@FGGHHRJKSUEUEYYR]

@@Idahoguy10157 Yep, they're procuring them for operations on Cavour.

[@darkzealot88]

And japan

[@FGGHHRJKSUEUEYYR]

@darkzealot88 Yeah forgot about that. Izumo-class "cruisers" will field them

[@g.e.gaviationphotography419]

Wish more Australians would watch this, why we don't need the Bravo, the Alpha is a much better suited for the RAAF.

[@silentblackhole]

I think the most important. feature of this aircraft is how it can consume so much data and provide it to a pilot in real time, showing them what they need. is clearly and quickly as possible so they can make decisions. As a continuation of this being. networked with other F30 fives and other. signals intelligence information. opens up some really cool abilities. Like When an aircraft runs out of missiles but it still can target the Remaining enemy and pass that Targeting information to another aircraft that does that. does have results. It's one of those things where one plus one does not equal two. Synergy baby.

[@edutaimentcartoys]

nice video

[@thelandofnod123]

Media and armchair critics bang on about how the F-35 can't manoeuvre as well as the F-16 and how it couldn't dogfight one. They also forget the F-16 has to be able to survive to the merge to dogfight in the first place, or that the F-16 needs to know there's an F-35 to dogfight.

[@josebrown5961]

@@thelandofnod123 I have always thought that that assumption was an early version of the software and a current version will get the plane pull just as hard as an F16. I just thought they were talking about a visual range fight, something that would probably never happen between them. Just comparing their handling I thought.

[@thelandofnod123]

@ I don’t think an F-35 would ever match an F-16 for manoeuvrability, but it doesn’t need to. As you say, the likelihood of an F-35 needing to out manoeuvre anything is very low.

[@carltanner9065]

@@thelandofnod123 Actually, it exceeds the F16 in all respects. The only way an F16 can turn like it does is when it's flying on half fuel load and minimal payload capacity...i.e. just two AAM's on the wingtips and the gun. Anything more than that and the F16 takes severe performance hits. If an F16 tried to point it's nose at low speeds like an F35, or even the F18, it would stall and fall out of the sky. But, dogfighting aside, the game would never get to that stage, if the F35 flew the fight properly. The F16 would be a ball of flames before the pilot even realised what happened.

[@thelandofnod123]

@@carltanner9065 I wouldn't say all respects, however that wasn't the point. The argument from the armchair is that an aircraft that isn't as manoeuvrable as something in service is rubbish, which misses the entire point of the F-35.

[@mahtisonni7593]

Wasn't the C version supposed to have an extended range over the A version due to the larger wings and increased fuel capacity?

[@dat581]

@@mahtisonni7593 No.

[@Boaris_Johnson]

@@dat581 yes actually, F-35A can carry up to 18,000 lbs of fuel, where F-35C can carry up to 20,000 lbs, and in last place for fuel capacity, F-35B carries 15,000.

[@dat581]

@@Boaris_Johnson Which does not give the C Model extended range over the A.

[@Boaris_Johnson]

@dat581 bro, yes it does, look it up

[@AA-xo9uw]

@@Boaris_Johnson Unrefueled range of the A and C is ~1200 miles. The B is ~900 miles.

[@thelandofnod123]

What about the comparison of the LO between the variants? I'd be interested to see that.

[@PvtPartzz]

I don’t like that the B and C variants lack internal guns. I know missiles have come a long way since the Vietnam era but I know I’d still want a gun if I were in the pilot’s seat.

[@oriy775]

That's what the external Gatling Gun pod is for, you trigger-happy you 😁

[@eeNPeeCee]

True but peer to peer combat is basically all bvr now and its very rare that they would get into range where a gun would be used

[@rkc62]

Another great video, but can we please have metric units in the captions - 34,500lbs means nothing to me, and I grew up with imperial measurements (back then we would have said 15 tons). At least the ranges were in kms...

[@josephlambe2796]

It’s simple do what most of us do….Educate yourself….😊😊

[@samsonmoses2132]

@@josephlambe2796 although Lbs and miles are used primarily in aviation, imperial system is still used more often elsewhere.

[@huiarama]

Great video, If I may suggest, is there a possibility in your channel exploring the JAS 39 Gripen. The Gripen has had its profile raised recently in a number of media including a large number of You Tube Channels. The reason is, the Gripen along with the other SAAB aircraft, the Erieye would be ideal for your neighbour - New Zealand. Given the present security challenges it would appear within NZ the political partisanship paralysis that has hampered momentum and organisation within defence for the past two decades, there is an opportunity to redress and provide a solution that is a complementary aircraft for joint ANZAC operations. And, that the Gripen is designed to operate in austere environments that are ideal for expeditionary operations, namely in the South Pacific....

[@kilmer009]

Nice vid but....the BG music around the 6:30 mark is from GTBT or CaspianReport and you know it. I've heard it a million times. The first tune was awesome, should've kept that looping or went with the same style. DCS footage also not labeled again. C'mon guys...

[@rkc62]

I do wonder why the RAAF didn't go for a hybrid as we did for the F111C - the more rugged undercarriage of the "C" and maybe even the larger wing of the "C" given our potential reliance on less than perfect runways. Obviously you wouldn't change the wings and undercarriage just for Oz but, as with the F111 program, those options already exist within the F35 program.

[@thelandofnod123]

Kinda sorta. But with the JSF program the way it is, the more standardised platforms, the easier it is.

[@janusz4156]

F-35A and F-35B must comeback in Ace Combat 8. 20 years of F-35 in 2026.

[@willbugno5139]

Why does Tony Abbott suddenly appear for like a frame at 13:44?

[@thelandofnod123]

Was he eating an onion?

[@shooterdownunder]

Because he was the prime minister when Australia was adopting the F-35

[@briangolightly1447]

Instead of cutting up our frontline Aircraft Carriers , Submarines LPD’s etc… Why not “Give” yes give the vessels to are Highest Trusted (not buying Russian or Chinese Weapons)Allies . Then incentivize American Military assignment (enlistment) after ten years of duty to those Military Allies to assist with training/schooling.on the carrier Enterprise was so well constructed it required a challenging approach to dismantle the Battleship (Carrier). All these plane’s & vessels in one day end up in the Boneyard or Scrap Heap. This Truly then defines a coalition of Allies!

[@twarrior17]

A good review !

[@AA-xo9uw]

"to the VTOL capable F-35B"(sic) STOVL

[@misspuddles63]

How is the F35A the smallest? By virtue of the F-35B having smaller vertical and horizontal stabs is is actually marginally 'smaller' by measuring extremities. the B has the hump for the lift fan behind the cockpit, but for all purposes the A and B are the same size

[@goldenageofdinosaurs7192]

That’s probably correct, though the B is lighter. I wonder if that’s what they meant by ‘smallest.’

[@misspuddles63]

@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 The B is in the middle when it comes to weight. it is lighter than the C, heavier than the A.

[@Idahoguy10157]

Size measured by weight

[@misspuddles63]

@@Idahoguy10157 nope, the video specifically says smaller AND lighter

[@andrewy3m2]

Next Mitsubishi X-2 Shinshin

[@FatherExo]

I worked on B’s and C’s. Ask me anything

[@Kaioshinpasha]

@@FatherExo out of the two, which one can edge themselves longer?

[@FatherExo]

@@Kaioshinpasha clearly the B can edge a lot longer than either 2.

[@thelandofnod123]

How do monarch butterflies know where to migrate to?

[@forzaelite1248]

@@FatherExo How much more weight could be shaved with optimizations from more modern stuff like 3d metal printing and newer materials? Possible but impractical -expensive- ?

[@FatherExo]

@@thelandofnod123 have you not watched the Venture Bros.?

[@cherrychevys]

And an F35 Engineer, If I had the funds, I would buy the CF model, and BF model. But on the CF, I would request they put the speed brakes back on it, like the earlier test variants had. I liked them. They were cool, and I got to play with them every day.

[@AA-xo9uw]

"I would buy the CF model, and BF model. "(sic) A, B or C. No "CF"(sic) or "BF"(sic).

[@dennisleighton2812]

Interesting comparisons! However, there is one statistic that is not addressed: How does weapons payload differ for the models while the aircraft is in full stealth mode (ie only internally stored weapons). It is crucial to know this, as stealth is one of the plane's most touted attributes. I have seen reports stating that the internal weapons bay config is identical across variants, but other people disagree and seem to suggest that the B variant has a smaller bay. If this is true how would that affect the B variant's ability to carry the same number of AMRAAMs and sidewinders? I think you will concede this is a rather important question? Note: the moment one hangs external stores under the fuselage and wings, does the F-35 not just become another 4th gen fighter? In which case it would not stack up very well against other NATO front line planes (Typhoon, Rafale, JAS 39 Gripen) - speed, agility, load, power-to-weight, etc.

[@rvh1999]

Good question indeed

[@dennisleighton2812]

@@rvh1999 Can we look forward to your finding out for us? That would really be great. Thanks in anticipation.

[@DunamisStan]

9:50 Wait what? US Defence Force?

[@DrXJ]

Somebody's taking notes 😂

[@EsotericResearcher777]

10:53 - You can really see how Israel actually runs the United States through AIPAC's total domination of Congress, reflected in the F-35 program. Because AIPAC doesn't need to follow foreign registration laws, Israel ensures total obedience of Congressmen and Senators by heavily funding opponents if Representatives get out of line. The F-35 program wasn't supposed to deviate from program specifics in any way, in order to make production more streamlined and simple and in order to make contractor maintenance insanely profitable for Lockheed. Because Israel insisted on accessing the F-35 code and doing their own maintenance, their ready rates are superior to everyone else's. That makes the Adir a superior model. Also, "Just-in-time" spare parts manufacturing and logistics for American F-35's is completely ruinous for ready rates and wholly unsuitable for wartime conditions. The rest of the world has no idea that over 30 million illegal migrants, many of whom are foreign sabotage units, came over the border completely unimpeded and untracked during the Biden Administration. On outbreak of war, these units are going to hit F-35 manufacturing plants and many other sensitive locations hard. America doesn't even have enough of a military stateside to guard every sensitive location because they are all forward deployed internationally. The Air Force, Navy and Marines should follow the Adir modification program in order to improve ready rates. The US Military also has good reason to distrust Israel since they have caught Israel selling American technology secrets to China repeatedly. They need to get a handle on the F-35 program because the ready rates are abysmal and because the US can't afford for Israel to sell the US out to China in regards to F-35 secrets. The entire impetus for F-22 security and the disallowance of foreign sales was strictly due to examples of Israel selling secrets to China. They aren't likely to have changed their stripes since then.

[@BV-fr8bf]

Israel had Large scale combat test of the F-35s on Iran (from Iraqi airspace.)

[@Karl-Benny]

Other European light fighters can Pull10 g and More

[@jbloun911]

😂 sure they can

[@jbloun911]

Murica 🦅🇺🇲 carrying the betas!

[@Antesyd]

7,5 g?? Gripen E can pull more than 9g. How many g is secret, but most likely limited by the pilot, not the airframe.

[@dumdumbinks274]

So could the F-15C which was rated for 7.3Gs, but pulled 12Gs in actual combat during Desert Storm. Rated G is for airframe sustainment and reducing maintenance, not the limit of maneuvering.

[@coreyandnathanielchartier3749]

Sparrow missile can pull 30g's, but it take two miles to do a 180 degree turn. It's all relative.

[@CallsignEskimo-l3o]

I suspect the Bravo is preferred over the Charlie for maritime operations is because there very few CATOBAR capable navies.

[@dat581]

That's a bit of a silly statement.

[@misspuddles63]

What other forces have any CATOBAR carriers that they don't already operate the Rafale from them?

[@SlowrideSteve]

We refer to thef-35 as "fat Amy" here in the states, I'm dieing to hear what yall come up withe for a nickname

[@peterwright217]

mmm, still like the F86 Sabre.

[@ViceCoin]

29% combat ready.

[@silentblackhole]

In future, can you use the metric system? Especially since you're an Australian channel and it is used by everyone worldwide.

[@1badjesus]

$88 MILL per,track 20 targets, stealth, etc carries 4 missiles MAX (for stealth) B&C= 🚫 cannon. wt..f?

[@critique7767]

China: lets make a propaganda that our J20 is far more superior than the F35 lightning ii

[@GaryKennedy-g7p]

starts off talking about the most powerful fighter engine and the rest is constantly on about weight effecting performance - tells you this thing has the aerodynamics of a house brick .

[@wozza77able]

Why don’t y convert pounds to kilograms? Anyone can parrot of from a webpage!

[@FishandHunt]

In aviation fuel is always measured in pounds. And get yourself a converter app.

[@skunkwerx9674]

@@wozza77able why can’t you speak English coherently?

[@TommyHexagon]

@@wozza77able why can't you divide by 2.2??!!

[@VolanteRacing]

Because no one in aviation reads fuel and weapons stores in metric weight

[@dat581]

@@FishandHunt No it isn't, that's just in the USA.

[@worldwanderer91]

First

[@Yxalitis]

You must be so proud.

[@Karl-Benny]

70.000 Lb not stealth anymore

[@Emma15969]

@@Karl-Benny How does weight make it less stealthy? B-2 spirit is many times heavier and it's as stealthy as the F-35.

[@dat581]

Hmmm, only two minutes into the video and there are already a few errors and misrepresentations. The various descriptions of G limits are comical in the implications drawn. Did anyone actually check any of this before writing the script? Or was it just made up on the spot? "Disclaimer" "Original footage and recreated scenes (using DCS, War Thunder, etc) may not be 100% accurate to the event being described but has been used for dramatic effect." They should have said something similar about the narration. Relies on "Barrier" arrested landings? So the F-35C doesn't catch a wire it just uses the barrier every time to land on the carrier? Did anyone do a sanity check on this video?!!!!! Oh God the idiotic claims made in this video are terrible!

[@megafauna8374]

This video is still way better than the childish nonsense published on your channel.

[@JoD-tz8ez]

The difference between being capped at 7G and 9G is significant, and not just in dogfights. Even in BVR engagements (usually supersonic) it is important since it limits turn radius and abort time if you need to go defensive or re-commit quickly. In BVR speed is critical to ensuring maximum kinetic energy of missiles coming off the pylon as well as draining kinetic energy from incoming missiles, and a 7G limit at supersonic speeds results in a significantly larger turn radius than the 9G equivalent. The difference between being able to pull 7G and 9G, or at least having the ability to, can literally mean the difference between life and death

[@raafdocumentaries]

"barrier" should have been "carrier" - as in normal carrier arrested landings. Was a typo in the script. - Made a pinned correction. I don't think there is anything wrong with comments about the G limits.

[@dat581]

@@raafdocumentaries If that's all you think is wrong with the video you should probably give up making them. You made clanger after clanger throughout the video.

[@dat581]

@@JoD-tz8ez Not the point. The point is the statements made about the G Limits and the many other clangers throughout the video.

[@super_slav91]

Rafale is still better g loading 10, Mig-35 is better g load of 10.3, Su-35-37, latter 2 are what we need, extra range without sacrificing maneuverability, full 3d thrust vectoring g loading of 10.1 with better speed retention and less maintenance.

[@thelandofnod123]

We?

[@super_slav91]

@@thelandofnod123 Australia

[@thelandofnod123]

@@super_slav91 Australia most definitely does not need any Soviet rubbish.

[@super_slav91]

@@thelandofnod123 Is that why the US bought MIG-29's from Moldova and reverse engineered their head mounted displays to create JHMCS and other tech in the 29, the US didn't have a phased array radar on a plane for 25 years after the USSR did, or when the US used Yak engineers to make critical parts of the f-35 function. US tech is now where Russian tech was in around 1997 ish. when the US used Yak engineers to make critical parts of the f-35

[@thelandofnod123]

@@super_slav91 Ahhhhh, I see now, you have absolutely no idea about aerospace and engineering. Thanks for your input, but you should probably go back to your bridge before too many people get over it unhindered.

[@ルナライトレオダンサークイーン]

Failure 35 😂

[@thelandofnod123]

Nope

[@ルナライトレオダンサークイーン]

@@thelandofnod123 cry NATO loser is a fact, ignorant petulant 🏳️‍🌈😀😀😀😀😂😂😂 .l.

[@MotoroidARFC]

@thelandofnod123 the Israeli Air Force seems to be getting their money's worth out of them just like with their F-15s and '16s back in the 80s.

[@thelandofnod123]

@@MotoroidARFC Indeed.

[@rvh1999]

Meh, 'master of none' expensive crap. No thanks

[@onlythaclonessir2525]

OK MR VAS AND DR KARL AND GOD KNOWS WHO ELSE ( WHERE ARE YOU ? )