Rabbi Tovia Singer Discusses: The Two Sticks of Ephraim and Judah 1361

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[@davidd.c.9545]

Thank you so much dear William and rabbi!!

[@samanthacanales9102]

Ephraimites were not Jews, not racially nor ethnically, they were pagan Hebrews idolaters of images (1 kings 30 ) "And this thing became a sin; the people walked as far as Dan to worship before one of the calves." they were usually at war with their Jewish brothers for most of the almost 200 years of existence, until the lord exiled them among the nations. thus it can not be identified as a race or ethnicity but rater as a Spiritual Nation.

[@jamseihaokip1262]

@@samanthacanales9102 h

[@yhwhreigns]

Perfect answer for the two sticks of Ephraim and Judah. Thank you.

[@yonave4160]

I remember getting to know a girl that called herself isralite/hebrew roots/ hebrewlites haha and she said that we all have to read the book of mormon 😅

[@debrapaulino918]

I was acquainted with them in 1972 for a while. I do not remember if I finished reading it. How I found an expose of Smith without internet I do not know. Did I find it simultaneously while thinking it peculiar? I was Bible illiterate.

[@wordwordful]

Lots of confusion. Mormonism is a Cult

[@shira1270]

When I see the Mormons with their 12 babies I think of the 2% Judaism and how they could get 10 converts a day and still be out numbered by Christians and Muslims and Mormons!🤣

[@smk1189]

The parable of the “tax collector and Pharisee” in (Luke 18:9-14) DEBUNKS the belief of without the shedding of blood there is NO forgiveness (Hebrews 9:22). The passage in Luke’s Gospel confirms that God does forgive sin without the blood sacrifice of Jesus.

[@timothya.olmeda7299]

The fact of the matter is, there was never a need for the gospels opinions in the first place. The children of Israel and their fathers were well aware of the way to God’s mercy and salvation through returning to God, repentance and providing charity when a temple was present, and while a temple was present the understanding of what consists of a sacrificial offering (only specific animal species allowed) and the handling of the matters. Referring to the gospels, that weren’t introduced until nearly 1,300+ years later, would be as relevant anyones opinions during our own century. Worthless.

[@smk1189]

@@timothya.olmeda7299 When the Temple NO longer exists as it was in the days of Ezekiel and Daniel "repentance" and "charity" atone for sin (Ezekiel 18:21-22, Daniel 4:27) .

[@timothya.olmeda7299]

@@smk1189 Correct. Also echoed in Ezekiel 33:11-16.

[@4clempt]

And the word Sacrifice is understood differently than its Hebrew word which means “to draw near”

[@jessereichbach588]

All it confirms is the imagination of ancient, naive humans.

[@luv1another]

God calls who he will.

[@sharonfahey5374]

Akiva was recorded as saying the 10 tribes will never return.

[@shalpert1947]

Jeremiah 32:41 if you follow Yair Davidiy’s videos and numerous books you have to know for sure that the Return of the ten tribes is currently underway. Along with Repent! The return of the ten tribes is the main theme of every prophet. Read the prophets!!

[@jenna2431]

Much respect to the good Rabbi. I wish he could suss out the OT as he does the NT.

[@timothya.olmeda7299]

There is no such thing as an “Old” Testament. That idea was invented and deliberately inserted in order to make seem that the “New” fake Testament had some sort of relevance. Moreover, Torah is perfect, and the chosen prophets of God (Joshua-Malachi) are indeed in line with Torah. The rabbi has many lectures and videos that could answer your “suss out” questions and inquiries that may exist in your mindset.

[@4clempt]

When an OT will exist, he might. 😝

[@jessereichbach588]

@@timothya.olmeda7299 Aww I'm sorry, but the OP was correct. Tenak is an imperfect, man written book. We don't have to wonder about this. It's obvious. Plus we have tons of actual evidence that supports that position. This is why only 10% of modern Jews are Orthodox. And why 70% of Jews don't recognize Rabbinical authority and don't accept that Tenak is the divine dictate of Hashem. This is why 70% of modern Jews are either reform, secular theist or secular atheist. Because we learn our book from a very young age and it is beyond obvious to most of us that these are simply the traditions and mythologies of our people, as descendants of those people of the Kingdom of Judah, which is what Jew means. it does not mean someone who practices "Judaism", which only became a formal religion after the Roman diaspora. I love the Rabbi and what he does, but he has blinders on when it comes to the Hebrew bible and Torah. Cognitive dissonance doesn't allow him to critique the text with the same accuracy and objectivity he does the Christian bible. This isn't opinion, this is objective fact. There are SO many anachronisms, so many contradictions, inaccuracies, problematic parts of both the Pentateuch and successive books. We know Daniel wasn't written until around the 2nd century. We know that Cyrus was ADDED to the "prophecy" after the fact, because there is no such thing as "prophecy". It simply does not exist. Just like resurrection doesn't exist. There is so much arrogance in the Orthodox/Literalist perspective. It's pure arrogance, to think you know with certainty that something so outlandish is true? That is the utter definition of arrogance. And Hashem loves arrogance haha. The Rabbi unfortunately faces cognitive dissonance, like you so clearly do. Which is OK. We still love you. It's up to the rest of us Jews to look after the Orthodox. They are the lambs of our society. We are the shepherds. They think they are the shepherds but they have it backwards. They wouldn't even have a nation without the other 90% of us. We take care of them because they are our past, our history, our traditions. And that's cool and I respect them to do what they do. But that doesn't mean we can take them seriously in their interpretation of Tanach or for that matter, reality. It's unfortunate, but that is the reality of the situation. I mean, I can prove in less than a minute that Tanach is imperfect and that things the Rabbi claims are pure fiction. Like the idea that Cohen are descended from Aaron. Modern Cohen derive from over 21 separate and mostly unrelated paternal lineages, Y-haplos. Over 21 individuals are the male ancestors of modern Cohen, making it impossible for them to be descended from Aaron. And IF one of these lineages did indeed come from a man named Aaron, that means the other 90% of modern Cohen are frauds. And it's the same for Levites, except there we have over 30 different male lineages. Meaning, Levites are not all paternally descended from Levi. Not only that, but Levite lineages don't correlate with Cohen lineages. Which means, if Aaron existed, he wasn't paternally related to the other Levites. The genetics factually disprove every claim made by the Rabbi and Orthodox Judaism in this regard. And you simply can't argue with that kind of hard evidence. And no, the Cohen Model Haplotype does NOT prove the Cohen tradition, it proves the exact opposite. It's only Orhtodox who don't understand the actual findings, what the CMH actually is, who believe that nonsense. So right there, we see, if Tanach is "from God", then he messed up and somehow the Cohen lineages are from over 21 different individual males. So please, let's stop pretending its a perfect book. There are so many errors and contradictions a child could pick them out. And they do all the time. I realized by the age of 8 or 9, years before my Bar Mitzvah, that it was all mythology and folklore and antiquated laws. As did I would say about 70% of my very Jewish peers. Yes, Jewish. Meaning of the Kingdom of Judah, not of the tribe of Judah and not necessarily of the faith practices of the Kingdom of Judah. Which, prior to the Roman diaspora, were extremely diverse and this Rabbinical Judaism we have today was NOT eve nthe dominant form of Judaism at the time. The Rabbinical form of Judaism comes from the Pharisees, who were the equivalent of like the Jehovas Witnesses or the Evangelical Christians of today. They pandered to the poor, uneducated and illiterate, they pushed superstition, magic and supernatural mumbo jumbo. Which is why the Sadducees were in charge. Which is why the Sadducees had the backing of the aristocracy, the merchant classes, the rational people of the day, and why they controlled the temple and the social order. Pharisees were for poor and uneducated people, and to a large extent, those traditions still pander to the same mindset.

[@jessereichbach588]

Well said Jenna. As a Jew I feel it is the duty of the other 90% of my people to look after, as "good shepherds" as it were, over the lambs of our society, the "flock", the Orthodox, literalists, people who still believe in fairy tales. And that is the case as only 10% of modern Jews are Orthodox. And about 70% of modern Jews do not believe the Rabbinical traditions or Tanach are divine works, just traditions. The Orthodox wouldn't exist today if it weren't for the other 90% of us. They wouldn't have a nation today in Israel if it weren't for the other 90% of us. So we look after them as a parent would a child. Because, whether we like it or not they are ours. They are us under different, more ignorant circumstances. With that said, lol, we just have to make sure they stop gaining political power or Israel will fall into ruin, Judaism will go backwards about 2,000 years and these maniacs would probably actually try to rebuild the temple, likely instigating WW3. Anyway, I too wish he could critique Tanach like he does the Christian bible. But cognitive dissonance I'm afraid, it's a b$%ch.

[@Malkiel1968]

Did you know that GOD says in Exodus 3:14-15, that His name is 'EHYEH' or 'I AM' in english? 'EHYEH, The God of our fathers - The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob'. This is how He said we should call Him forever, throughout our generations.

[@wordwordful]

The teaching on Britian being Ephraim was taught by Herbert Armstrong World Wide Church of God. All Christians do not believe this.

[@shira1270]

Genesis 24 is about Rebekah and whether she wants to get married

[@wafee2001]

[@davidwest7776]

In English and many languages the days of the week are pagan gods. It seems likely that in the distant past, the Hebrew words for the days of the week were changed. Were these new names used first in Genesis?

[@timothya.olmeda7299]

They’ve always existed in the Hebrew Bible version. The changes happened during the translations from the original Hebrew to Greek to Latin to English and so on…which allowed the reader to take the word of God out of context. A translation is a product of man, it cannot be the word of God.

[@pardes7342]

Jewish People always to this day followed the days of the weeks. All days were numbered like yom rishon; yom sheni etc =first day; second day and so forth until 7th day= Shabbat. The only day that has a proper name. We still follow how the days start like in Genesis: Sundown in the evening starts a new day until Sunset next day= is one day.

[@shira1270]

@@pardes7342 exactly! call it whatever but lots of ppl can count to 7

[@madmanmark8387]

I have no comments on the questions for this video,but I only wonder why people hang up and have multiple questions. It's a one question show.

[@paweszul881]

Reform Judaism does not provide for rebuilding the temple and offering sacrifices , the Orthodox have a problem with this? Who today will allow sacrifices to be offered, it is disgusting and not human?

[@samanthacanales9102]

Animals are sacrifice every day and offer to you as food.

[@paweszul881]

@@samanthacanales9102 Im lacto vege

[@pardes7342]

Orthodox follow the TORAH both oral and written. G-d promised that the 3rd temple will be rebuilt by the TRUE Jewish Messiah. Many Kohanim Jews today are LEARNING how to execute the sacrifices. There is nothing that man can do to stop this. G-d rules and it is in His word.

[@paweszul881]

@@pardes7342 Im against of animal sacrifices - it's inhuman

[@jessereichbach588]

For good reason. Because Halakha is unjust, unrighteous, man made law, now antiquated. 70% of modern Jews don't believe in the Rabbincal authority and don't believe Tanach is the word of God. Only 10% of modern Jews are Orthodox. For good reason. They are our flock. The other 90% of us are the shepherds, taking care of the little children, the Orthodox. They are us under different more ignorant circumstances, so I feel for them. But they have it completely backwards. This is why reform acknowledges patrilnieal desvent. Because we know for a fact that this matrilineal descent thing only really began AFTER the Roman diaspora, it originates with the Rabbis after the 2nd temple was destroyed, not prior. For 2,000 years the ignorant Rabbis have been holding the Jewish people together, and for that, we thank them. But they are no longer necessary. We have our own nation again. We just need to reduce their power in the state of Israel as they still get to dictate too much in terms of society. Like they won't allow the children of a male Jew to make Aliyah because they don't cosnider them "Jewish". Which is insane. The word Jew doesn't even mean someone who practices Judaism. it comes from the Latin Iudaeus, which was their term for Yehudim, or Judeans. The word Jew simply means the people of the Kingdom of Judah, not the tribe, nor the faith practices of that Kingdom, which, prior to diaspora were VERY diverse. As in, there was no such thing as formal Judaism. Just a slew of different beliefs and practices. Modern Rabbinical Judaism formed in opposition to he rise of Christianity, which is how and why it turned into this formal religion like Christianity. It was never that prior. Anyway, we just know too much about reality today to believe in these fantasies. And most of our ancestors 2,000 years ago would have agreed. The Sadducees were the dominant sect of the 1st century CE. They controlled the temple, the social order and had the support of the aristocracy and merchant classes. When the temple was destroyed, and the aristocracy and elite carried off by Rome, the Sadducees lost their power base, and thus, the superstitious, literalist Pharisees were left holding the bag. The Pharisees were like modern Evangelicals, they pandered to the uneducated, ignorant, and illiterate masses of ancient Judah. Which is why in the Christian bible, the uneducated, Galileans and fisherman all believe in Pharisees not Sadducees. Not because Pharisees were authentic, but because they were the sect of the uneducated masses. And THAT is the predecessor of modern Rabbincal Judaism. Anyway. I truly do love and respect the Rabbis and Tovia. I just don't love and respect their delusion as it were.

[@hadassahthomas2548]

So glad you did this video! I am not in agreement that Brit-Am is Ephraim and Manasseh. My EX-pastor believed that to the extreme! That is why he is my EX-pastor. LOL The lost ten tribes of Israel are not Jewish. They are not of the tribe of Judah. They are Israelites who have lost their identity. They have been scattered so far to the ends of the earth, that they do not know who they are. Indeed they would have mixed into the gentile world over time, even having children by them. They were divorced by Yah and sent into exile. Judah was never divorced by Yah and kept their identity. The Prodigal Son story is a parable of Judah and Ephraim. Judah being the elder son, that stayed with the Father. Ephraim, the one that ate out of the hog trough. I believe the ten tribes of Israel are in every country! Not just Britain and America. They are everywhere! And I believe 100% that they are coming out of the pagan church, and being drawn to the Torah. Letting go of pagan ways, and coming back to obedience to the Torah. Just like Y’shua said in Matt 5:17-20. Judah and Israel will once again become the Whole House of Israel. All 12 tribes living in the Land when Messiah shall reign for a 1000 years! 🙌🏼 Shalom shalom!!

[@User-x5s3x]

You need to realize, research, and accept, that NOWHERE did God ever mention the "Yeshua/Jesus" character to us, NOWHERE did He tell us that we need to be "saved", and NOWHERE did He tell us that He requires HUMAN BLOOD (a purely pagan ritual that God ABHORS!!) as atonement for our sins. NO FURTHER SCRIPTURES were given to mankind by God AFTER Mt. Sinai, therefore, Christianity absolutely did NOT come from God! PLEASE buy a Hebrew Bible (says "Stone Edition TANACH" on the cover), and Rabbi Tovia Singer's books, as well as Rabbi Stuart Federow's book "Judaism and Christianity: A Contrast", to help you understand why Christianity absolutely did NOT come from God.

[@samanthacanales9102]

Brother Tovia was not at his best in this episode, his answers were rather dubious..

[@jessereichbach588]

Whenver he has to defend Tanach, his answers are always dubious. It;s called apologetics. it's no different than what literalist Christians do. The Orthodox are an antiquated sect. The vast majority of Jews no longer respect their authority... they have no authority.

[@jamiechippett1566]

Tell me Tovia do you still not know the difference between a Jew and a Hebrew! C'mon mate!

[@jamiechippett1566]

🇦🇺🇬🇧🇺🇸 AUKUS 👍🐨🇦🇺🇬🇧🇨🇦🇿🇦🇮🇳🇧🇲🇨🇰🇹🇦🇹🇨🇳🇿🇦🇮🇲🇸🇰🇾🇬🇸🇫🇰 Ephraim 🇺🇸 Manasseh 🕎🇮🇱 Jews (Judah,Benjamin,Levi) world war one and two and Israel become a state for the Jews. Other European colonising nations make up the rest of the brothers.all these nations living in the spirit note spirit of Israel Jacob and his twelve sons and two grandsons.just look at the world u.k Commonwealth and United states are a force to be reckoned with joined together.theyll be like a stick in gods hand and smite the nations with it. WW 1 and 2.what don't you understand? Logic!

[@jessereichbach588]

That's as much of a fantasy as the Orthodox mythology. There are no LOST tribes. There were only lost ISraelites.

[@seekers-of-righteousness]

The Torah is called the tree of life. Adam and Eve were forbidden to eat from the tree of life. Why are we allowed to “eat” from the Torah?

[@thisgirlelliana1420]

They were forbidden to eat from the Tree of Knowledge (good and evil), not the Tree of Life.

[@cmain3931]

@@janishart5128 I believe they were allowed to eat from tree of life until they ate from the tree of good and bad.

[@seekers-of-righteousness]

@@thisgirlelliana1420 thank you!

[@debrapaulino918]

Then the Lord God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; and now, he might stretch out his hand, and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever” (Genesis 3:22)

[@RoseSharon7777]

@@janishart5128 I have a theory, only a theory...the 2 olive trees in Jechariah 4:3 pour thier oil into the candlestick is referring to the living word and holy spirit and we are the candlestick. The 2 olive trees are the 2 witnesses of I John 5:7 and Revelation which are the elect of the 12 tribes (Jews and scattered Ephraim gentiles) along with the father who sends out his word by his spirit to these elect prophets Zech 7:12. To those who consume his word and drink in his spirit (manna and wine). I believe these were the 2 trees of Eden. The NT and Tanak are full of metaphor that was literalized by Rome and was simply a spiritual allegory. Jer 31. The anointed one originally was the spirit speaking the word as it did to the prophets thruout the OT. It was personified in the NT before Rome corrupted it. Since his elect of both jews and Ephraim gentiles are candlesticks and he is the father of lights. That Light that shines in the darkness thru his people who live his 10 commandments and love thier neighbors as themselves and of course only worship and serve the Father ALONE as "Jesus" himself said. Its pretty clear "Jesus" never claimed to be God and only a prophet of many prophets who chose to follow the light of the father. Its also very clear the NT was corrupted. The contradictions are easy to find. If a person can rightly divide the truth from lies, they will find the pearl of great value hidden in a field. This is a theory of mine.

[@k.k.5046]

Will Yeshua Save Gentiles

[@debrapaulino918]

Not even Jews.

[@rawintexas]

Will salvation save gentiles? What is a gentile? This is not a biblical word. The word in scripture for non-Jews is goy/goyim or nation(s) in English. Gentile is some pagan Greek put down word. Why do you follow a pagan. Follow the sages of Israel and you will learn or understand much more.

[@k.k.5046]

@@rawintexas Yeshua = Jesus from Nazareth,The King of kings and The Lord of lords for nearly over 2000 years.

[@debrapaulino918]

@@k.k.5046 Krishna predates him about a millennia; conception, message, and service the same. People have PhD's in ancient mythology. JC is most recent. Miracles not a credential. 31 other saviors did them. He is not an ascended Master, and it makes no difference if he was G-d or not. No one can die for you. Listen to the other side or pack.

[@k.k.5046]

@@debrapaulino918 Well,I'd say Jesus reign among many advanced gentile nations had been predicted by many Jewish prophets in Tanakh.

[@samanthacanales9102]

Ephraimites were not Jews, not racially nor ethnically, they were pagan Hebrews idolaters of images (1 kings 30 ) "And this thing became a sin; the people walked as far as Dan to worship before one of the calves." they were usually at war with their Jewish brothers for most of the almost 200 years of existence, until the lord exiled them among the nations. thus it can not be identified as a race or ethnicity but rater as a Spiritual Nation.

[@shira1270]

Weren’t Ephraim and Manasseh the sons of Joseph and the Egyptian? Replacing Benjamin?

[@samanthacanales9102]

@@shira1270 Ephraim AKA Israel was at the North of Judea, Ephraim was a commonwealth of 10 Tribes of Israel, (Exiled up til now) the other 2 tribes of Israel are now the Jews, (Or modern Israel). Jacob had two son from her beloved Rebeca, Joseph and Benjamin - Benjamin sided with Judah to the South (when the kingdom split-ed about 916 BC.) Joseph does not have a tribe because of his 2 sons Ephraim and Manasseh replaced him with half a tribe each.

[@shira1270]

@@samanthacanales9102 I thought earlier you said that Ephraim was composed of the 10 lost tribes. I must be confused.

[@samanthacanales9102]

@@shira1270 The Hebrews that left Egypt latter became Israel, later that kingdom divided into two, The south Kingdom adopted the name of Judah, - the North Kingdom retained the name of Israel (AKA Ephraim) Ephraim AKA Israel was scattered among the nations until today, Judah on the other hand returned to the land in 1947 and formed the modern State of Israel.

[@jessereichbach588]

No, that's the Orthodox mythology. Samaritans today are indeed the descendants of Israelites as much as any modern Jew. Modern genetics has proven this beyond a shadow of a douht. You just perpetuating a 2,000 year old bigoted fantasy that was never true to begin with. Let me put it like this, the OLDEST Torah scrolls we have found in the archaeological record, align more closely with the Samaritan Pentateuch than the Jewish Pentateuch. Consider that. Consider that we know that Daniel wasn't written until the 2nd century BCE. That Isaiah was written over the course of like 300 years by at least 2 separate authors, one of whom was writing AFTER Cyrus had already freed the Jews from Babylon. Samaritans are just as much Israelites as we Jews are. And its time we put this Orthodox fantasy to rest. They've had a good run of 2,000 years. But they don't get to define what it means to be a Jew or an Isrealite. Which is why only 10% of modern Jews are Orthodox, and why 70% of modern Jews are either reform, secular theist or secular atheist. because we learn from a very young age, by reading Tanach, that it is MYTHOLOGY. Most of us do at least, long before we have our Bar Mitvahs. These are traditions, nothing more, and we can prove that with actual evidence. So stop being a bigot towards Samaritans. They are indeed who they say they are.

[@patricialauriello3805]

I pray you have a blessed Passover. I ask the risen Christ to bless you and forgive you.

[@JeremyKu]

Where does the Hebrew Bible (the one Jewish Jesus studied and knew) say anything about a "risen christ"?

[@u.y.3643]

Please don't bring your idol worship here. Keep it to yourself. Thank you.

[@thisgirlelliana1420]

Truth: Zechariah 12:10. Lie: John 19:37.

[@cmain3931]

Jesus is Greco Roman paganism.

[@patricialauriello3805]

@@JeremyKu may Jesus forgive you also.

[@zackmano]

57:20 - "You're gonna blame it on sunlight??" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🙌🏼💙 You're are the greatest team ever! Wisdom and laughs every time 🙌🏼💙😉

[@Christo-pv7eb]

Why did you cut the caller at the end off? That’s messed up. As he was speaking you should’ve taken his call.

[@jessereichbach588]

They tend to avoid cognitive dissonance. I've come to the conclusion, the only thing they are really interested is stocking up "points" in their mind with "Hashem", the people don't matter, only "Hashem" matters. The more people they get to buy into the Orthodox fantasy, the more points they get. It's no different than what they are criticizing Christians about. Same cognitive dissonance .Same inability to see through the fantasy. They claim to be saving Christians and in a way they are. But it's like out of one frying pan into another.

[@sharonfahey5374]

Wow!! Thank you Hashem!! I was thinking about Akiva too!

[@perdue6709]

As far as ephraimites are concerned, I believe there is something to it. Perhaps all these “noahides” are coming to Torah for a reason. Read Isaiah 44:1-5

[@jessereichbach588]

Modern Samaritans still have the tribes of Ephraim and Manasseh. They never disappeared. That is Jewish mythology, legend, nothing else. It's a Rabbinical fantasy.

[@perdue6709]

@@jessereichbach588 you do realize there are less than 1,000 “modern samaritans” alive today? I don’t care about rabbinical legends.

[@jessereichbach588]

@@perdue6709 What does that have to do with ANYTHING? They are still people, 1,000 or 10,000. And they deserve respect and so does their actual history which is denied by the Rabbinical "authority". It's that simple They are Israelites living in Israel. Their religion itself is irrelevant as is ours. It doesn't matter how many. How many Druze are there? They still partake in the IDF and are Israeli citizens. 20% of Israel is Arab non Jewish. Setarian, Muslim, Christian, Secular all variety. Samritan included. And more so, they are the only other Israelites remaining aside from Jews. It's completely hypocritical from a religious context also. The Rabbis always going on and on abotu meshiac and the stupid return of Ephraim and the tribes They never left. Ephraim still exiss, so does Manasseh. Not to mention that entire mythology is silly to begin with as we know no entire tribes were exiled or scattered or any of that. So while they are pretending, they are also rehashing an ancient bigotry, whcih effects real life people. ESPECIALLY because those real life people are a minority in a predominantly Jewish nation. Meaning, the dominant population looks at this minority population, every bit the citizens, and to their face tells them they are frauds. This is what black hebrew israelites and others do to us, to Jews. And we turn around and then do it the same? This is religious? This is holy? This is godly? Its BEYOND hypocrisy. And they call them Assyrians haha. Jews are as much if not mor emixed with other populations than are Samaritans. Our genetics tell a story of diaspora, theirs don.t. So all that we are waiting for the return of Ephraim BS is just well, BS. It's narcissistic and supremacist. There is no way around that. And these are the people some still adhere to for moral authority? Laughable. They Rabbis got us through 2,000 years of diaspora, by keeping us together under strict religious control. Fine, that was what it was. But thats done now and they are no longer necessary. And it's just disgusting to do that to another people ,especially a people who have been through terrible things all the same and only today number 1,000 people or whatever. And what's even funnier is, the Rabbis use the line from the bible " you will remain few in number" as some proof that indeed Jews are the chosen people and Tanach is real prophecy and blah blah. Ok, so if we use that same logic, there are less than 1,000 Samaritans. 1,000 "True believers" as Rabbi would say. So who are the REAL Israelites of the book? If you aren't religious as you suggest, then you should wholly see where Im coming from and why its wwrong. ANd to suggest it doesn't matter because they number less than 1,000.... wow. Jews number less than 15 million, so. Maybe we dont matter either.

[@shalpert1947]

Correct

[@samanthacanales9102]

Ephraim can not racially identified because its 10 tribes , not one people: The Assyrian empire disseminated Israel (Ephraim) in 722 BC. until today, however Judea remained in the south until 70 AD, - the confusion stand that when the modern state of Israel was created in 1947 it was really the re-establishment the southern (Judea) and not Israel of old. therefore the old Israel is still among the nations of the world. The Messiah came to gather the lost tribes of Israel prophesied i(Isaiah 49, 6) “And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.” Jesus spoke clearly about his mission (Mathew 15; 24) "He answered, “ I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” - but, speaking to the Jews He added in - (John 10: 26) "But because you are not My sheep, you refuse to believe. 27 My sheep listen to My voice; I know them, and they follow Me"... Naturally follows that Israel is the believers in the Messiah, in other words the church, this has nothing to do with race, but with Spiritual memory, it it was by race then Edom is as much a child of God as is Jacob. To God be the glory and honor the light of the truth is out it can not longer be hidden.

[@jessereichbach588]

No, the Samaritans are the descendants of the Israelites of the Kindom of Samaria and they have NEVER left the land of Israel in 3,000 years, unlike our Jewish ancestors. And Samaritans today are citizens of Israel, which is a REPUBLIC for all Israelties and ethnic minorities of the region. Over 20% of the Israeli population are non-Jewish, mostly Arab of all variety. So you're beat I'm afraid. Tanach isn't history, it's mythology, no different than the Christian mythology. Lets stop pretending otherwise please? It's getting annoying. The other 90% of us Jews have to look out and take care of the 10% of Orthodox who still believe in this nonsense. There would be no Israel today without the other 90% of us. Heck, there would be no Jews today without the other 90% of us. Tanach is the folklore and mythology of our people. It's pure arrogance to think otherwise in 2023. PURE arrogance. And God loves arrogance right? haha.

[@randiwaxman8412]

Rabbi Tovia, you are a saint with more patience than I could ever dream to have with some of these questikns. CHAZAK

[@debrapaulino918]

Yes I'm down there just being authentic. After yrs of being holy by denying myself and taking up my cross ... authentic is best I can now manage.

[@User-x5s3x]

​@@debrapaulino918 : You need to dispose of that cross - somebody might get the wrong idea!! 😮😅

[@jamiechippett1566]

Hay Tovia ready for the cusp of a world wide famine mmmmm laughing at you again! Joseph and the grain silos mmmmmmm. Laughing!

[@jamiechippett1566]

Hosea 9:17 buddy proves you wrong tovia.remember me?

[@RoseSharon7777]

Gen 48:19. Says they are the gentiles that are the decendants of Abraham through Ephraim. Those who choose to believe in the one true God thru faith.

[@sharonfahey5374]

I've wondered about the same thing about the Redeemer being Hashem alone.

[@debrapaulino918]

And since Hashem is w/o form? We may surmise it as a global consciousness? Your thoughts?

[@jessereichbach588]

We don't require redemption. Thus there is no redeemer. It;s mythology. Nothing more.

[@Malkiel1968]

Did you know that GOD says in Exodus 3:14-15, that His name is 'EHYEH' or 'I AM' in english? 'EHYEH, The God of our fathers - The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob'. This is how He said we should call Him forever, throughout our generations.

[@Shelama]

The Mormons are big on Ezekiel 37 and the Two Sticks because Joseph Smith wrote it into his Book of Mormon, that the Book of Mormon, itself, is the stick of Joseph, while the Bible is the stick of Judah. And together they are one stick in the hands of the Mormon church and Mormon missionary. Furthermore, Mormons are each given an individual and supposedly inspired and revelatory “patriarchal blessing” in which their lineage is declared to literally be from either the house of Ephraim or the house of Manasseh.

[@cincylitigator4704]

So amazing all the garbage JS claimed like John the Baptist, Elijah and every other bible hero came to give him their anointing.

[@Shelama]

@@cincylitigator4704 Garbage or genius by JS, it fooled a lot of people who had already fallen for the basic Christian myth, that Jesus was the Messiah and fulfillment, and that he "died for sin." And that an "empty tomb" and bodily resurrection and physical appearances were actual history.

[@shira1270]

@@Shelama Singer fools a lot of ppl too! (My fake book is better then your fake book)🤣

[@Shelama]

@@shira1270 - The important thing with Singer, of course, is not whether Tanakh is "true" or not, but that if easily falsifies Christianity and the New Testament and Christian myth, either way, regardless. The important thing about Singer is that he can help even an atheist deal with the Christian myth and Christian truth claims within their own terms and their own scriptures. Which falsifies Mormonism on their own terms, too, and within their very own scriptures, even the KJV. So in that sense, even if fake, Singer's fake book is, indeed, better than those other fake books. Neither of which can falsify Tanakh, nor even just touch it.

[@User-x5s3x]

​@@Shelama: Have some RESPECT for this extremely learned man!! It's "Rabbi Singer", to you!!!

[@paweszul881]

If Jesus did not fulfill the prophecies what we as christians or not will do?, noone know truth only God

[@smk1189]

The parable of the “tax collector and Pharisee” in (Luke 18:9-14) DEBUNKS the belief of without the shedding of blood there is NO forgiveness (Hebrews 9:22). The passage in Luke’s Gospel confirms that God does forgive sin without the blood sacrifice of Jesus.

[@samanthacanales9102]

All Jews are Israelites but most Israelites are not Jews, you don't have to belong to neither to be traditional - if you dont have a religious tradition, I bet you have another type of nonsensical habits.

[@debrapaulino918]

What good is that to the world?? as in didn't fulfill prophecies. What benefit for you to continue believing in Santa? The superior "no religion" folks basically have no interest in truth. It is all about FEELINGS and you will never lack for company.

[@smk1189]

@@samanthacanales9102 You have NO Scripture to back up your claim.

[@samanthacanales9102]

@@smk1189 Jews ( Judea ) separated from he other tribes (Ephraim) as per 1st. Kings 12 16 "When all Israel saw that the king had refused to listen to them, they answered the king: “What portion do we have in David, and what inheritance in the son of Jesse? To your tents, O Israel! Look now to your own house, O David!” -19 "So to this day Israel has been in rebellion against the house of David."

[@thuggie1]

It's pretty easy to find out who is related to who and where ancient links between people's it called a DNA test

[@abbalives7168]

DNA doesn't help. If your mother is not Jewish or anyone from your lineage on your mother's side then you are 0% Jewish. DNA evidence won't help at all

[@christo-chaney]

DNA doesn’t prove Jewishness. What DNA tests can prove who’s from what tribe?

[@abbalives7168]

@@christo-chaney we don't need such proof of which tribe. Wouldn't help with the messiah anyway. For example if you are a Cohen or Levi like rabbi singer you can't be moshiach. A general yisrael like me can be moshiach. If it was known I was of the tribe of David or not that still wouldn't narrow it down very far. Is desperate, weird and pathetic of the NT to try make effort to prove Jesus's lineage to David anyway. Same thing I thought when I read the ridiculousness of them saying they graft themselves onto our vine. Doesn't work that way. Whole world was never supposed to be Jewish

[@thuggie1]

@@christo-chaney ehm yes it does prove who is decended from any group of people in the same way it can prove family connection. This is one of the biggest uses of DNA testing on a comershal basis... also there are genetic markers distinct to the Jewish population like there is the Swedish, slarves, native Americans and every other group on earth and you can pin point both matrimonial and perternal bloodlines.

[@christo-chaney]

@@thuggie1 a Jewish dna result doesn’t prove that the person themself is actually Jewish. It shows that their Anvers were but can’t tell us if they are. Jewish identity isn’t conveyed by DNA alone. If a Jew believes in Jesus they immediately stop being Jewish and become a Christian. Same thing if a Jew accepts the Quran as the Final Testimwnt and Muhammad as a prophet. They stop being Jewish and become a Muslim.