GENE - A Metal Gear Solid Retrospective

[@chwig7354]

0:18 "Why watch this video..." Because Max Derrat

[@smartjackasswisdom1467]

I thought the same O.O

[@Pensive_Scarlet]

Yeah, this. I glossed over the thumbnail for a bit until it popped up enough times for me to pay closer attention. I thought it was an old take I had already seen, but when I realized it was a new take and *by Max* I got excited! ;D

[@victorcippitelli2242]

18:50 Another curious aspect to the nature-nurture debate in the game to add is that Snake (the recessive gene clone) defeated Liquid (the dominant gene clone) because his willpower, desire to live, and the experiences he has gave him more ability and determination to face a genetically superior individual; in other words, nature does not always decide who is the strongest, but rather that oneself, regardless of his genetic structure, can surely create a better person, be mentaly and spiritualy stronger than the genetically determined ones.

[@TheSacredPain]

"You musn't allow yourself to be chained to fate... To be ruled by your genes..." Cue, 'The Best is Yet to Come' as well as the tears in my eyes... 😭

[@riderbull5178]

I miss this saga... MGS, Sons of Liberty and Snake Eater are a perfect trilogy.

[@SoFarSoGoodSoWhat14]

And Guns of the Patriots makes it a perfect quadrilogy ^_^

[@wolfwangdelosmonteros7134]

@@SoFarSoGoodSoWhat14 i think it actually harms the series greatly. MGSV does it as well, but MGS4 does mores damage to the series, even when is a better game.

[@Hack_The_Planet_]

Wolfwang De Los Monteros 4 and 5 are both incredible games don’t be foolish

[@wolfwangdelosmonteros7134]

@@Hack_The_Planet_ I never said they were bad games, even when I personally think they are. MGS4 is a cronological sequel of a game that doesn't need a one. It goes and explains things that doesn't need an answer and actively ruins the mistery created in MGS2, damaging the oniric and nightmarish feeling present in that game. The discussion that existed before MGS4 even questioned if anything in that game actually happened, thanks to the surreal ending and questionable occurrences. This makes the endings of MGS and MGS2 to be more open. The twist in MGSV is quite similar to the one in MGS2, it's just reverse. In MGS2 the player helps the patriots to control the United States, this is a critic to the desire of the player of being Solid Snake, and ends when Raiden decides to trow away the control of the player (kind of literally). MGSV goes and congratulates the player. -congratulations player, you are Big Boss. A puppet that happily accepts his role in perpetuating war. Both ideas exiting in the same saga weakens both messages. But thats just an interpretation. The real damage goes when it tries to explain the powers we see in MGS3 with vocal cord parasites, the same problem with nanomachines in MGS4. But then again, this is just my reasoning and interpretation, don't be foolish.

[@AutistikWaldo]

@@wolfwangdelosmonteros7134 you should try replaying 2, it's not as profound as you remember. 4 is the crutch 2 now stands on to be considered a good game just like 5 explains why there are three big bosses and who in the first game big boss was a super big bad evil guy but in solid snake and mgs3 he's actually a pretty awesome hero man. I think you've fatally misunderstood the intention of these games and become blinded by nostalgia.

[@whateverfc]

20:47 ''it is mei ling right?'' ''Grey Fox'' ''close enough''

[@TheRexonator]

Best birthday present, thank you Max!

[@maxderrat]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

[@Shadlezz]

God I'm so angry, why haven't I found this channel before now, it's *literally* all my spheres of interest overlapped Damnit KZbin algorithm, robot Col. Campbell said you would be EFFICIENT!

[@inkvixen3141]

It's a nice feeling, once the anger passes, isn't it?

[@cmeza1985]

Silent hill, metal gear. My favorites.

[@wizkidgamer9942]

He was lying 🤥

[@freepalestine2434]

it was all just another layer of conTROLL...

[@LordEmperorBoss]

It takes a lot of Faith to fight for what you believe in. I envy that I think. Growing up, it always seemed like Faith or Pride in anything was misplaced. Nationality, Race, Religion, Heritage, Wealth, Gender, even the generation I was born into. It always felt like the world wanted me to be ashamed of everything I was. Or rather those were the memes I was exposed to. It makes Hatred feel so...natural. I believe that Living and Fighting for your own interests, takes a lot of Faith. It probably takes even more so to do it with Love and Honor.

[@The1337nut]

Amen

[@arigat-s0244]

@@The1337nut It was really well said.

[@SIGNOR-G]

Europeans do indeed grow up in a toxic enviroment. Always belittled always told them that they are evil

[@gloglogloyper7888]

Wow, a whole 25 minute analysis without Max even mentioning Jung once! Impressive Boss... (but in all seriousness, the Aion series changed my life, thank you Tsar Max!)

[@maxderrat]

Thank you, homie! And thanks for being so active in this community. Expect the final Aion videos very soon!!!

[@brendanscott893]

I mean he does mention the shadow.

[@stuartlemusic]

liquid and snake can also be analyzed by freud’s idea of the ‘id’

[@JohnJohnson-mf3dv]

Max you get me through long homework sessions with these videos. You are an extremely intelligent, talented, and criminally underrated creator.

[@defroses7520]

Why do some many people started talking about Metal gear solid?Especially the phantom pain V?Aside from the question you are the only of all the people I watch a video about MGS because it doesnt feels like you are doing it for the attention,you are appreciating the whole universe itself,not just hoping on the trending train like a lot of people....

[@fgdj2000]

My guess is the Death Stranding PC release... People have Kojima on their mind.

[@fgdj2000]

Though funnily enough, I recently started thinking about Metal Gear again when I haven't really in years... but for me, it was probably that I recently booted up DS after not having played it for months.

[@sengiko]

Metal Gear Solid is my favourite game of all time. Maybe it´s nostalgia for being the first game I couldn´t stop playing over and over again, or maybe it´s because since I was 7 I knew this was a masterpiece. Regardless of the reason, I always find a new reason to keep breathing thanks to this game, because if Solid Snake decided to use his skills for a cause of his choice, then what is stopping me from doing the same

[@himynameis3664]

I know it's an old comment but I just have to agree with you. I was 7 or 8 when this game came out and it was the first game that really made me think of concepts outside of the game. Also the first game where it was like taking control of the protagonist of an action movie, it was so cool at the time. I will never forget the hours of my life spent on Shadow Moses island

[@IkkiPlayCine]

Dude, I love your videos! I speak a lot about the MGS saga on my channel too, which is Brazilian. But I disagree with the part where you mention that Big Boss fought only for money. The concept of Outer Heaven, went far beyond than just a mercenary military group, and money, was just one of the variables to put your plans into practice. I think his narrative impoverishes, when you puts the Patriots 'AI so sideways in the plot, and most of the characters' motivations come from the egalitarian vision of overthrowing AI's power and mental control, which as we well know, is an ideological point in common in all Snakes. In addition, I wish you success, continue with the great work, sincere greetings from Brazil!

[@Sniperk1ng187]

Man... I've been playing MGS since I could use a controller, I'm 23 now, and Grey Fox's monologue and sacrifice still make me tear up a little

[@rhino202]

Love the channel. This was my first gaming obsession. Used to go to stores to play the demo and then actually got the Pizza Hut demo. Got it once it came out and played it with friends all night trying to beat it. I have loved it since

[@j.r.shartzer]

“Responsible for sabotaging several bipedal tanks,“ is kind of a great line. I mean, it’s accurate, it’s descriptive, it also kind of sits right in the center of the mixed seriousness/silliness of Metal Gear. I am imagining a normal job interview where Snake has that on his resume. “So, Mr....Snake? Dave Snake? Under, ‘responsibilities of your previous employment,’ you have, ‘sabotaging several bipedal tanks?’ Well, I think that makes you perfectly qualified for the geek squad. Welcome aboard Mr. Snake! Can we call ya Dave? David? Davy?”

[@sancho0813]

Wow. I’ve seen every metal gear retrospective you can think of: superbunnyhop, Matthewmatosis, gametrailers, etc. You did a great job and really brought something new to the table. I’m a clinical psychologist and often think of the nature/nurture debate and how it impacts my own life, my clients, and our search for identity. Its been a common theme with overcoming trauma when talking to clients, which you beautifully displayed in the video. How you relate with your pain. Am I am who I am because of it or in spite of it? Snake definitely is a tragic hero. Great job. Subscribed and belled. Can’t wait for the next one.

[@scotcheggable]

18:40 for anyone who doesn't know, in Japanese dominant and recessive genes are instead referred to as superior and inferior. So when liquid says that snake is the superior clone, that's not actually correct, that's just his assumption based on a quirk in the Japanese language. There is no proven basis for his argument, it's all in his head.

[@KasumiRINA]

Liquid is like a reverse-white-supremacist, assuming the dominant gene brunette Solid is superior.

[@metalfoxhound]

i'm so happy you made this, thank you x

[@kalypsodeepsea982]

Wow. I never was a gamer, and I know nothing about video games, but the way Max brings this up an analyzes the whole game makes me want to try it 🤩

[@tristancata9146]

I think this a huge reason I love Max. Cause he can speak in a way that all audiences can see the profound messages from stories of all platforms. Cheers ✌️

[@kalypsodeepsea982]

Yes. I like hus soothing voice. Makes me feel so relaxed 🤩

[@JDG602]

You are bringing me back to seeing gaming has a important piece of art with A LOT to say and has really deep meaning and philosophy that can help us evolve as a people, discover hidden truths, and other amazing things that are vital for the growth of any human being. Thank you so much for your hard work you are a rare gem in these days of "KZbinrs". Thank you. Stay Yellow.

[@jjagreus]

Great video man. It's a good thing KZbin recommended this video as I am currently playing through the whole MGS series for the first time during this quarantine. Really helps me out to understand some of the deeper meanings of this amazing series. I'd look forward to seeing you breakdown all the other themes of the MGS games!

[@iThomas2000]

That SH2 music still gives me chills every time

[@AlterFunKtion]

Stunning as always max. Your channel gives me so much inspiration to replay these games.

[@fgdj2000]

The 8 Metal Gear Games Kojima directed are pretty much perfect. They are also an amazing cross-section of video game history. I recently booted up MGSV again and I think I‘ve never played a more well-designed action game. I know the main missions often don’t have a lot going on in terms of story and feel redundant, but gameplay wise, they are all both uniquely designed and versatile. Every time I play a mission I find a new route or a new detail I hadn’t noticed before.

[@MGMG3000]

Phenomenal job Max, what an awesome video ! I would love to see a series where you talk about the rest of the games in the series in the light of their respective words (MEME, SCENE, SENSE, PEACE, REVENGE).

[@AzA609]

Bro i fcking love Metal Gear and analysing the shit out of it. Hideo Kojima is the GOAT!!!

[@SuperBMan3000]

Always happy for someone to add another video to the catalogue of videos on the MGS series Max-keep up the great work and cheers for a great video

[@umbraemahwa5675]

Great video! Thank you for making this one on one of my favourite stories on video games 👍

[@johnnybonello]

Dude i just recently found out about your channel because all of your awesome content about my favorite games! Keep it up cause i'm loving it! Cheers from Brazil, you definitively won a fan!

[@kevincoragem]

Shit, when I though had consumed all Metal Gear content on the internet, your channel pops up! Awesome analysis man!

[@yokohaloless2286]

You're so good at this its scary sometimes. Excellent video, sir

[@neosporin1873]

These mgs vídeos are my therapy.

[@salamonhaichat]

Thank you for this video! Hope more people will see it.

[@amaurys93]

I am humbled to say your channel has quickly become my favorite - thank you for the variety of interesting content!

[@shyghost7551]

As a kid mgs1 idea for me was to overcome pass obstacles. As an adult now this vid brought more ideas to think of mgs1. I'll be playing it again thanks to you. Great work and stay yellow my friend.

[@Musulll]

Right now, this is my favorite YT channel. Thanks.

[@Rad-Dude63andathird]

I really appreciate that you're specifically covering the individual themes of the Solid saga, not many people talk about what those single words mean for each and it's cool hearing a fellow fan's thoughts and analysis.

[@domhanson3484]

This is a brilliant, well analyzed video. Keep doing what your doing Max.

[@gr2192]

Great, amazing analysis! The best i've found on the internet

[@krysc96]

This is the good skwush right here. 💪🖤🧠 I enjoy the idea of talking about each theme in a pseudo serialised video series. Sounds like a cool idea to dive deep into 🤯

[@greym7857]

Just listened to your podcast on the riots. I highly enjoyed what John and yourself talked about, TY for the content and sharing your insight.

[@scott1888]

Great video man, i love when you start a new series, and i love mgs, cheers mate 😎

[@joshuaoneill3118]

We need more of this.

[@leglessrestsyndrome229]

Good analysis! Can't wait for the next video.

[@Melinmingle]

Poor mans tremble

[@dunbar91]

Fantastic video, looking forward to the rest 👌

[@Shadowdragon_TV]

Absolutely amazing. Loved this video. Yes, please, more Metal Gear material.

[@alteredendeavor]

Great job as usual Max!

[@gardenboydon]

Another Fantastic breakdown of such an incredible game series

[@2357y1113]

Max, this video was a real banger! 😍

[@maxderrat]

Thanks for watching it my man.

[@twilliamspro]

Hindsight makes you feel for Hal He didn't want to be like his Father but ended up being played

[@matthewfaust4077]

Amazing video. Can't wait to see more. May the algorithm pick this video up by the throat and hoist it up for everyone to see

[@Ra30R87]

I gotta say, that amongst many analyses that I have seen on mgs, your perspective hits home with me. Looking forward to your next video Glad I subscribed

[@ZackZavage]

Thank you. This deserves a lot more views.

[@nfrost1986]

Thank u I love ur metal gear stuff

[@JakeHunter2010]

This game changed the gaming world and my life personally. Just amazing from start to finish. MSG is why video game should be consider a form of human art. #JakeHunter88

[@uzikanoozi]

wow this is great. looking forward for more! you do a incredible job

[@devonmiller113]

Great videos I love your channel! Great content on here man. And your pronunciation of Les Efantes Terribles was amazing lol.

[@smoking-pliskin]

Well u didn't tell me anything new. But I love what a fan u are to a series I love. Nice job!!

[@kingnro1]

Great stuff, looking forward to your takes on MGS4 and 5 in particular

[@ProjectRedfoot]

Thank you for this. I AM MORE CONFUSED! (But less-so than when my older brother and I were playing

[@kerm2796]

Great video!

[@cook_it]

Except for a demo I never played or looked into MGS but this was way more interesting than I expected. Theres so much more behind it than I would ever notice on my own. I really should look through some older Max Derrat MGS videos.

[@ZeranZeran]

Oh man, check out his video about the MGS2 codec. "The most profound moment in gaming history" it blew my mind.

[@cook_it]

@@ZeranZeran That's the video that introduced me (and many others) to this channel ;)

[@reecechambers3467]

Random comment to try and attract KZbin algorithms

[@maxderrat]

My man.

[@vedrannikolic4278]

Trying to bait the Arsenal A.I i see.

[@vedrannikolic4278]

@@maxderrat But wait Liquid has superior genes and Snake has inferior right?

[@MasonMillerKingofCaturday]

@@vedrannikolic4278 I thought liquid's genes are inferior

[@maxderrat]

Liquid thought he had the inferior genes, but it turns out he has the superior ones after all.

[@hunnerboi8561]

I just beat mgs 1 for the first time recently and I still think it holds up. Great video

[@ego2d]

I wish more people highlighted the characters motivation, instead of just talking about what happened. Example, ‘we are not tools of the government or anyone else. Fighting was the only thing I was good at.’ It gives you more insight on the character. Thanks for the Upload.

[@nillynush4899]

Awaiting Solidus - The Perfect Clone - analysis. A man who was actually the hero and just wanted people to have Liberty.

[@maxderrat]

I respectfully disagree with your assessment. :P I think Solidus' desires and intentions were highly noble, but some of his actions in trying to achieve his ends certainly weren't (i.e. killing Raiden's parents).

[@makefoxhoundgreatagain842]

I agree. His shitty treatment of raiden aside once I knew his true intentions I remember thinking "I want to fight WITH YOU not against you!!" based solidus.

[@robelquis7393]

awesome stuff max

[@dexterousfox8753]

Snake Eater is my favourite game, can't wait for that video!

[@n1c704]

“Why should you watch this video over the thousands of metal gear videos?” Why wouldn’t I watch thousands of metal gear videos

[@K0rn-czv]

Excellent video, Max! You've made me remember why MGS1 will always be my all time favorite! Thank you! Can you make a video about Jeremy Blaustein and all the controversy around MGS1 translation process someday? I imagine that it's not much your video style, but it would be cool to hear your opinion about it!

[@moomsquad8705]

loved this! amazing work man

[@SuburbaniteUrbanite]

Remember, we all must apologize to Hideo for MGSV. He never wanted to make it but was forced by his higher ups. You should never do that to a beloved franchise.

[@KasumiRINA]

He did t want to make MGS3 either so what? He's always begrudgingly makes sequels... Hey, he didn't want to make 2 much either so that's how it turned into roasting of Snake fanboys.

[@johnnygraves4118]

Listening for the second time in anticipation for the anniversary of the Shadow Moses incident coming up

[@viniciusdeoliveira171]

The only sin this game has to me is that the fact a gene is recessive doesn't make it worse or better, the same applies to dominant genes. Your videos are great.

[@thecheekychinaman6713]

A series ahead of time.

[@digdugdat2847]

There needs to be a MGS Extended OST playlist on Spotify. There I said it

[@brandonperkins176]

I pray Kojima can create a Metal Gear anime series for the titles with his own team of artists. Be a dream come true despite not getting a live-action movie

[@robertforster8984]

Gene, meme , scene, and Sense. I always found them interesting.

[@GRYFX02]

Some of best mgs videos ❤️

[@AparoDedaro]

That Gray Fox quote is the best in the series!

[@maxderrat]

It probably is. It's certainly my favorite from the first game. :)

[@KajiCarson]

Oh, Liquid is abso-lutely a Jungian-esque shadow version of Snake. Very astute observations, and I loved your interpretation.

[@marcelomafra]

Awesome Max!

[@theonlybilge]

4:38 government is probably the most accurate title for this point in the series.

[@wombraider7796]

the longer i am in the army; through Afghanistan, Iraq and the friends ive lost from tour or suicide the more i identify with big boss and his dream of outer heaven

[@2gunzup07]

Soliders are to be used when you sign up you should know this my grandfather was in ww2 mom said grandfather on Dad's side korean war dad Vietnam both my grandfather came back had families lived normal lives my dad was the one who wasn't built I think he really thought at first Vietnam was a just war my grandfather's knew they were just being used and dealt with it

[@mercenarygundam1487]

0:07 I hum the game over theme whenever this plays.

[@ReaverSTHLM]

Only just now started watching this series, but I like the subtext of considering the effect MGS had on its audience in the real world with the effect Snake's actions have on the in-fiction world. I've thought of that a fair bit actually, MGS commenting on both the world and itself at the same time in various ways. Some of it probably _is_ brilliant, while other things are probably just me giving the game too much credit. But that's the cool thing about art... so many questions.

[@patrickftw8464]

I wish I could wipe my memory of these games and replay them all for the first time again lol. Masterpieces

[@Chalepastel]

Max: There is one character I've still yet to adress Me: IT'S MEI LING!! Max: Grey Fox Me: Yeah, I guess that works too...

[@ayoogunkanmi8528]

Love this channel!!

[@buttersleopaldstoch5793]

I have always seen nature as potential, nurture as something that is malleable.

[@christophervelez1561]

Great breakdown!

[@DamnniceFinisher]

Not going to lie you my hero

[@CroweBR75]

Love these videos

[@ultimatemegachad3487]

This Franchise Was So Ahead Of It’s Time

[@enterprise719]

Conquered Shadow Moses for the first time a few nights ago. Thanks for doing these vids. I’m having so many interesting gaming experiences as a result. And I also can identify with the struggle for answers pertaining to religion.

[@euamometalgear]

MGS is my favorite game of all time and it discusses nature vs nurture masterfully in many levels. The genetics per se are the only thing that can't be taken so seriously, just because a gene (more correctly, an allele) is recessive, it doesn't mean it will grant you an "inferior" trait in comparison to its dominant counterpart

[@tomaspeixinho4447]

Liked the video very much. I love that there's still a community that keeps metal gear alive. I have many thoughts on your video, but I don't feel like writing them all down, so I'll just ask a question that's been bugging me for years: if Liquid got the recessive genes and Solid got the dominant ones, shouldn't his eyes be brown, as his hair, whereas Liquid's would be blue with blonde hair? But if I'm remembering correctly, Solid Snake had blue eyes as well (at least in mgs2). Or were they green (which is a mutation)? Btw, mgs2 is my favourite, so I can't wait for the next video. Keep it up, man!

[@maxderrat]

Liquid was always the dominant one. He was incorrect in thinking that he got the recessive dreams. Thanks for watching, mate!

[@makefoxhoundgreatagain842]

Liquid had the superior genes, but they were recessive (blonde hair etc) Snake had inferior genes but they were dominant (brown hair etc) Recessive / dominant genes doesn't imply inferior or superior its more how likely they are to be expressed (e.g blonde hair is less common than brown hair as brown hair is dominant but that alone doesn't make brown hair inferior or superior)

[@makefoxhoundgreatagain842]

@@maxderrat see my response above 👆

[@reptilianroyal9455]

The best gaming series ever. The best game ever

[@Lord_Of_Beans]

Oh boy, another MGS video!