I like to think of Peace Walker, Ground Zeroes AND The Phantom Pain collectively as Metal Gear Solid V. Two seasons of an expensive tv show with special in between
@tropichawk8502 жыл бұрын
I've said this same thing many times before and no one has ever thought that conclusion made any sense. So, although it might be selfish of me, it makes me very happy to see someone else at the same conclusion.
@purvdragon-sensei2 жыл бұрын
Peace Walker is the beach episode of the MGS series. If you really think about it, the main plot is actually the B-plot and the main thing people should be enjoying are the side-ops, characters, setting and overall slice of life feel. Cause once that’s over it’s all depressing shit from that point onwards.
@abnerdoon49022 жыл бұрын
@@purvdragon-sensei Funny how Peace Walker was my first MGS game.
@purvdragon-sensei2 жыл бұрын
@@abnerdoon4902 Same, I honestly don’t get how people could get so uppity about it, at worst it’s the little brother of the series, you could just ignore it, but you’d be missing out on so much good stuff.
@tydendurler95742 жыл бұрын
Yeah, kinda. And first season was way better.
@bonapetite50872 жыл бұрын
Having to kill The Boss the first time brought me to tears. Watching an echo of her soul overtake all logic and reason just to sacrifice herself again, and prevent thermonuclear war a second time was another punch in the gut. For the short time we got to actually know her, I can think of few characters that can have so much detail written into so little writing. What an unbelievably powerful character design.
@bigorange4919 Жыл бұрын
I agree but when Huey says it’s using its heart it just ruins it for me. Mega cringe
@SalesmanWave Жыл бұрын
@@bigorange4919You sound fucking five. What mature person would ever unironically say 'mega cringe.'
@FlyingKlutchKick Жыл бұрын
Yeah…. No it didn’t. There was absolutely zero character building with her. Stop lying for clout
@AnotherViewBot6 ай бұрын
@@FlyingKlutchKick Having an opinion =/= lying. Stop being an egotistical sycophant for clout.
@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat5 ай бұрын
More accurately you got to know what strangelove’s fan fiction/headcanon version of the boss
@MarkEstratocaster2 жыл бұрын
This game is really underrated. The true MGS V, since we see the point where Big Boss heart changed and abandon The Boss ideals. Can't recommend this game enough.
@owltowel73332 жыл бұрын
Fun fact - In development, this game was originally called MGS5: Peacewalker Not watched the video fully yet so not sure it mentions this
@outerheaven2k72 жыл бұрын
I did QA for MGS Collection, i lost count the number times I beat MGS2 and 3, I hope I never play it again. Except for Peacewalker. This game is a gem
@abaque242 жыл бұрын
To me, that moment happened in Portable Ops, when Snake is facing Cunningham and tells him directly: " I'm doing this out of loyalty to myself! I'm not gonna live my life the way the Boss did-!"
@bengough67722 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy MGSV, for what it's worth. It does have depth but it's story is very much beneath the surface and I was initially, a bit befuddled and disappointed with it...but 3rd time through I'm having a blast. Will always love MGS1 AND 3 the most though
@TacticsTechniquesandProcedures Жыл бұрын
@@outerheaven2k7 Have you ever considered posting videos of your strats? I'm always up for watching another perspective.
@chrizzel282 жыл бұрын
I like that Strangelove is named after the movie about this same situation, an automated doomsday device that will end us all if someone, anyone makes an erratic choice. I see Peace Walker as the serious counterpart to the satirical movie, taking the same ideas under a different lens. It also happens to be my favourite stealth oriented Metal Gear game, I'm glad we're on the same page about it being underappreciated.
@GeneralMiller92FIN2 жыл бұрын
Stanley Kubrick's movie - "How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb". It's masterpiece (like all the Kubrick's movies)
@darkplayer55352 жыл бұрын
@@GeneralMiller92FIN Man Kojima is a darn genius for understanding Kubrick's Motives after his passing I wanna thank Max Derrat for deciphering it if he is the next G.O.A.T on understanding symbolism tho.
@kikrinman14502 жыл бұрын
@@GeneralMiller92FIN In relation to OP, the book that Kubrick based his movie off is a more serious telling of the story on in the book. Kubrick turned the story into a comedy on purpose.
@TOG2852 жыл бұрын
"stealth oriented metal gear game" Fellow revengeance enjoyer?
@revalution19652 жыл бұрын
@@TOG285 both do their thing perfectly crazy how they couldn’t be more different but are in the same game series lol
@marverak2 жыл бұрын
That masculine urge to build a mother base ✊😩
@cake_farts11 ай бұрын
The masculine urge to make a baby with a mother base😓😓😓😓✊️✊️✊️
@MasterJunior932 жыл бұрын
30:54 just to interject, i personally love this mission, because of the fact that it's Big Boss taking on an entire base filled with soldiers on red alert. Even though Metal Gear is still Tactical Espionage, the fact that for this one mission it's a straight up run-and-gun gives the game the breath of fresh air that it needed. All the other missions have ranged from sneaking to battling vehicles, but for this one mission, it's a firefight. There was one other "firefight" mission before the Cocoon boss fight, but it was more campy since you can sit in one spot and take everyone out easily, giving it that "Sniper Elite" feeling. However for this one mission, you have to run-and-gun, and i love it. 💚
@radicant72832 жыл бұрын
No Walkman allowed. Gotta jam to Heaven's Divide!
@groovysnake66642 жыл бұрын
Exactly, all the games have a moment like that towards the end, it's fun
@groovysnake66642 жыл бұрын
Not to mention they're great for challenge runs ok replays. Little design choices like this help keep the game alive
@eventsinarizona2 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@ricardomiles29572 жыл бұрын
Something that seeing now in retrospective, if more people had played Peace Walker before the release of V, they would've known that V couldn't be about Big Boss turning in to a villain
@r3gret20796 ай бұрын
Why not? Why couldn't V be about Big Boss becoming a villain?
@ricardomiles29576 ай бұрын
@@r3gret2079 Because that's what Peace Walker does, you can't make it happen twice. Before Peace Walker the idea we get is that Big Boss whole motivation was about The Boss and creating a wold where soldiers are free out of good will, with Peace Walker's true end we see that Big Boss rejects The Boss and he becomes the warmonger for the sake of his own self fulfiment he his in the MSX games.
@r3gret20796 ай бұрын
@ricardomiles2957 yayayayayya thats exactly what I was about to come back with. K ya I'm 100% with you. Just had to ask for clarification. I appreciate you. Edit: I originally thought you meant he shouldn't be a villain at all in V. Had to ask. Lol right on
@theelementalstation9472 жыл бұрын
Being from Costa Rica I have inmense respect for this game, their representation of my country wasnt perfect but it was dam good and is an honor to be in such a great game.
@theelementalstation9472 жыл бұрын
Also funfact, the disbandent of our army came after a civil war that nearly destroyed our countr. We literally saw the high cost of war in our home and saw it as just not worth it. Sadly many do not arrive at that conclusion
@DialloMoore5032 жыл бұрын
This game compelled me to Google photos of Costs Rica in the 1970s. I saw some pretty fascinating photos. 👍🏿
@KasumiRINA2 жыл бұрын
@@theelementalstation947 that's because you're on a continent far away from major powers. Literally nothing threatens you. Any country in Eurasia disarming itself probably deserves a Darwin award. We gave away world's third biggest arsenal of nukes, long range weapons, AND strategic planes for guarantees we won't be invaded by russia, UK and USA... yeah, then russians invaded. Nobody will ever disarm or join non-proliferation treaties now... Open your eyes! Budapest memorandum proved that only nukes keep you safe from an invading russian or Chinese horde. Japan understands it needs nukes of their own aimed at Beijing after russia gets turned into uninhabitable wasteland, and Israel just signed a treaty with USA to fight Iran by any means necessary. Pacifism was a lie told to us by those who wanted us to... stop resisting.
@zeroperator2 жыл бұрын
It's odd that the initial mission of the boss is rarely mentioned when talking about mgs3, the boss was sent to retrieve a philosophers legacy for the US, a source of unimaginable wealth for the U.S. but to gain Volgin's trust she had to give him a nuclear weapon. The U.S. used the boss as a pawn to retrieve the philosophers legacy and accidentally caused an international incident by arming a splinter faction within the Soviet Union.
@SaltedMallows2 жыл бұрын
Finally someone talks about PeaceWalker. It deserves it. Edit: But I do wish you talked more about the surreal dreams snake has about the boss and the robot having the butterflies too.
@BananaMammoth2 жыл бұрын
Shit I wish he'd talked about the fucking gameplay at least once during this 40 minute exposition dump. This was more of a recap than a retrospective
@Sh1ranu12 жыл бұрын
The most compelling thing for me that came out of MGS 3 and Peace walker was how the various parties interpreted the Boss’s Will
@docbaker33332 жыл бұрын
I got to admit those comic book esque cutscenes are very Stylish.
@thomasrose45232 жыл бұрын
Absolutely one of my favorites, it definitely was underappreciated. But you build mother base up, recruit all these soldiers, and do so much, so when you got to the end of Ground Zeroes, you feel what Kaz is feeling: "We built it dammit!"
@randalthor68722 жыл бұрын
youre so right man. I just beat MGS3 so that I could play Peace Walker and MGS5 back to back. It's gonna be epic!!! Cheers
@CourtneyCoulson5 ай бұрын
This series of video essays have been some of the most concise and insightful on the subject of Metal Gear. Great work, thank you.
@novohispana Жыл бұрын
Grew up with this on the PSP, vividly remember fighting Peacewalker during a family luncheon in Nicaragua, my cousins couldn't believe our country was centre-stage for any game. We were kids and didn't quite grasp the political underpinnings nor loftier subject matter, but the comradery of MSF stuck by me for life. Replayed it when I was older, found it just as great, couldn't agree more that it is essential to the totality of MGS V; by far one of my very favourite games. Also remember teenaged me blushing at the "date with Paz" op.
@Zonex_Haven2 жыл бұрын
The fact you can't crawl is what pissed me off in this one but loved it and me and my little brother managed to beat this epic game on our PSP Gos back in 2010.
@thatCRAZYwyles2 жыл бұрын
I've never played a MGS game, but I've watched all your videos about them and feel like my understanding of humanity is better for having seen them, thank you!
@axongear96502 жыл бұрын
Peace Walker despite its flaws has my favourite MGS story. It builds on MGS3 so much and the evolution from Snake to Big Boss is so good. His speech at the end "...our heaven, our hell, this is Outer Heaven." is to me Kojima's finest writing work
@ashimashi12 жыл бұрын
Finally a video that fully Analyses this game's brilliant story One of my favorites games for sure
@custardgannet48362 жыл бұрын
I love the co operative online mode in this, put so many hours into it but it's impossible to find populated lobbies now unfortunately. I still try from time to time. Was pissed to discover that MGS V was strictly pvp only as it could have expanded so much more on the Peacewalker co op gameplay, damn shame.
@ultraspinalki112 жыл бұрын
Does the game have local co-op? I just got my hands on 2 psps and might check out Peace Walker with a friend. Does the HD collection have co-op as well?
@purvdragon-sensei2 жыл бұрын
@@ultraspinalki11 PSP method might work better. The PS3 has to use some online thing and I’m not even sure if that thing is online anymore.
@nikomiller2 жыл бұрын
@@purvdragon-sensei it is online and will be forever since it's PVP. I played it on PS3 earlier this year with a discord group I found and got all the online related trophies.
@BrickmanZero2 жыл бұрын
@@nikomiller could you send the link so i join too?
@coreyrachar96942 жыл бұрын
excellent. I absolutely love the longer videos and hope to see more!
@nightsider27052 жыл бұрын
Man, seing this video just reminds me again of how much I love this game. Peace Walker has my favourite story of the series.
@stormmeansnowork2 жыл бұрын
The most touching thing of this game is that Big Boss endured all the sufferings and proved The Boss' innocence, and released himself from the bondage of the past, as signified by him letting go of the bandana.
@BahnGradWeg2 жыл бұрын
Great video (as usual), thanks for the effort!
@jamessullysolipsist48602 жыл бұрын
I just saw your community post about it, and it appears right after, I feel lucky today! Diving in that new Metal Gear video :) My favourite saga for sure
@ForNeverAfter2 жыл бұрын
i love it dude, your way of breaking things down and looking over them is fascinating to me, and inspiring.. it makes me want to endure and do the same with life and its many scenarios.. as well as games and films and shows ive watched, looking for patterns and comparisons.. its amazing, keep it up ^__^ so much effort and work goes into these, just awesome :3
@merovech72 жыл бұрын
I recently found your channel bro and the amount of high quality content here is breathtaking. I'm slowly working my way through your older videos and learning so much. Thank you for taking the time to produce all of this.
@remusaldana81472 жыл бұрын
My favorite game in the series with MGS 1 and 5, you just made my evening 🥰
@NJPortugal2 жыл бұрын
Your analysis are just out of this world. If the game was available, it already had my money on it. Man you do have a talent to this 🙂
@ItsDeebs2 жыл бұрын
I never ended up finishing this game when I played it over 10 years ago. After watching this. I learned that I was pretty much right near the end when I stopped playing. Because I remember watching and interacting with many of those story cut scenes.
@Robocop_19872 жыл бұрын
Love the video and the game , this was my introduction to the Metal Gear Series and a showcase for the PSP .
@nawfwest34002 жыл бұрын
What a God tier video I’m just blown away by this
@Ethnicgnome2 жыл бұрын
I actually snatched the ID card in my playthru and still tried the default route of breaking out of the cell. My xbox bricked and i sprained my wrist before i could get out that way. Before this video i genuinely believed the Xbox hd collection was bugged and you couldn't get past the torture scene.
@r3gret20796 ай бұрын
Peace Walker is an absolute MASTERPIECE, only held back by hardware limitations. MGS3 is my fav game of all time, but if PW was a console game, ooowee it would be an easy top fav. One of the most important titles in the entire franchise, if not thee most important, period. Edit; not only does Snake finally fully acept and take on the moniker "Big Boss", but this is also where he reshapes the ideals given to him by Gene, turning "Army's Heaven" into "Outer Heaven", and starts to put that ideal into motion.
@xvnoisyboiivx84282 жыл бұрын
Max you keeping me in suspense! Love your content!!
@solidsadd2 жыл бұрын
My first experience with MGO was on Peace Walker. The HD Collection on 360 was amazing! This is one of my personal favorite Metal Gear games
@averagesoul82562 жыл бұрын
man i love this series, mgs is one of my favourite franchises ever
@starfishsicko2 жыл бұрын
It's so cool seeing Quiet's origin story in this. Seriously tho, your metal gear solid content is the best there is. I can't recommend these videos enough
@tonygoodkind78582 жыл бұрын
'When I inevitably discuss the events of MGS5..." Nice, I wouldn't mind seeing that. Just lemme open his channel and find that other video he probably made years ago. [Realizes the vid I just watched is only 14 hours old.] _GODDAMNIT!_ Definitely appreciate leaving out Paz's part. The best vids like this filter down to just the core elements that speak to the theme being examined and basically all of this vid did that which was great. (There were rare moments of weirdness, like mentioning shrapnel hitting a door to provide access to a facility, but overwhelmingly the video covers the theme of peace and is a fantastic vid overall! Thanks for sharing!)
@drsatanrx2 жыл бұрын
Peacewalker is definitely one of my favorite mgs games. Shame it got overlooked because of it being a psp release.
@shotostudios239210 ай бұрын
I was just thinking of the story at the start while watching the video before I chose this. Your MGS4 Retrospective where you mentioned Snake proving one man can save the World. Synchronicity is truly a fun thing.
@nellofontani2 жыл бұрын
One of the most underrated MGS, I loved it a lot! Also the limitation of the psp hardware gave me some feeling of the original ps1 MGS mixed with Phantom pain stuff (Fulton, mother base development). Ashley Wood drawings for the cutscenes were also amazing
@nellofontani2 жыл бұрын
Also I think MGS peace walker story is still really relevant especially in current times
@evonnefenner72492 жыл бұрын
I'm just heading about this "peace" of ART. 👌 Wow this is so amazingly AWESOME. Thank You so much. I will now sit through this whole BEAUTIFUL storyline on KZbin. EDIT: WAIT.... IS THIS SNAKE EATER/ WELP JUST HEARD IT, HE SAID "YEARS AFTER SNAKE EATER"
@joseaca10102 жыл бұрын
a couple of corrections, the crew of the sub did not believe the charges were nuclear detonations, but they did believe they were under attack the sub did have nuclear weapons, but it was a nuclear torpedo, not meant to attack surface targets like cities, however there was a risk of DRAMATICALLY escalating the conflict, because after you use a nuclear weapon on someone else, the genie is kind of out of the bottle
@maryellacreations41902 жыл бұрын
I happened to play MGSV before this one, but boy, Peace Walker was intense. I think it was even better, because I was heart broken after V (the main plot twist plus other companion's stories). Playing PW after V was some kind of cure. All the BB struggle was so well put. The Boss's backstory, the feelings, and *the horse scene...* (You know which one). To this day my top three is: Snake eater, Peace Walker and MGSV. Linked story, same characters, the strength of the plot decreasing each title. But beautiful nonetheless.
@zaltajobratil35892 жыл бұрын
There's only one thing, that would make Peace Walker a perfect game. One thing, MAKING THE TORTURE SEQUENCE LESS DIFFICULT!!!
@marianodenisvega43232 жыл бұрын
Of course! I was only able to play it in one slot because of thatXD
@DuelJ0072 жыл бұрын
If thats not immersion I don't know what it
@zaltajobratil35892 жыл бұрын
@@DuelJ007 Indeed it was, but it would have been far more enjoyable only if the difficulty was bit lower. I died so many times during the sequence, I lost count. It made me frustrated so I looked up guides online and even gave it to other people to try to beat for me, but to no result. So I downloaded the completed save file and skipped the mission. Don't get me wrong, story-wise and immersion-wise it's almost perfect, but that difficulty was just unbearable for me.
@one1zero0three32 жыл бұрын
@@zaltajobratil3589 took me 3years to beat it on the psp
@cyberwarrior8382 Жыл бұрын
Brooo... i wasted like a hour trying to figure out what i was doing wrong xD Every squence was so hard i nearly broke my psp, and then you dont even know what to do. I only completed this mission after watching youtube video.
@papapapa162 жыл бұрын
Incredible. I'm playing all the Metal Gear games chronologically and started this one a few days back. This definately deserves a remake with PS4 graphics.
@Dominik-K2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis, thanks for the video. I loved the okie is this game even though I never had the chance to experience it myself
@LandAnchor Жыл бұрын
Great visual essays, thanks for sharing and creating great content. Subscribed.
@shophet1252 жыл бұрын
4:28 Would love to replay the game on Switch. Its bite-sized missions are a natural fit for the portable console.
@havocbringer21002 жыл бұрын
I would replay it as well. Peace Walker was specifically designed as a portable game. Listening to tapes may have been intended as something you can do in a bus or while walking. Personally my PSP truly was my walkman during my college years.
@Tsaier2 жыл бұрын
Great video Max, I've been needing to complete PW for such a long time, to prepare for V. I may now have enough info to jump into Phantom Pain. But now I want to play Peace Walker even more now.
@Plebs_ Жыл бұрын
Love this channel man, love the deep dives and the high-quality writing you produce. Especially after watching every MGS video on KZbin lol. Ty and happy new year!
@Plebs_ Жыл бұрын
You're pretty good!
@VoidShyrok2 жыл бұрын
Metal gear as a series is a work of art. Almost every game is thought provoking...except for survive.
@MBTIMemes2 жыл бұрын
I didn't expect to watch the whole video, but I did. I never even played this game or any other MGS, but bruh, this shit apparently goes deeper than I assumed. Great video!
@manamongmen33812 жыл бұрын
you just casually be dropping the fact that you're working on a MGSV video at the end of this one? insanity. I look forwards to it.
@boris_ev2 жыл бұрын
A really interesting story I would not have witnessed otherwise told in a very clear way, thank you!
@Sikthkid2 жыл бұрын
My fav of the series, and I’m a hardcore MGS fan.
@whirlwind8722 жыл бұрын
Idk anything about this game but I love listening to your voice and insight, very relaxing and enjoyable
@ubermalice95892 жыл бұрын
another spectacular and thoughtful essay, love it. cheers and stay yellow.
@ash1234568902 жыл бұрын
Beautiful video my friend ! Very clear and concise.
@viktor_v-ughnda_vaudville_4762 жыл бұрын
Dude that ending is no fair I can’t wait to see the video on the phantom pain max has a way of making me see things I thought I knew extremely well and just turns around and flips my life and understanding of it on its head all while teaching me extremely intelligent things about it and doing it with ease his mgsv video is gonna be nuts
@40718162 жыл бұрын
Finally, Peace Walker deserves more love.
@jasonblundelldobebussing2 жыл бұрын
0:09 Да ты чего, Максимка! Это герой 20 века! Мир спасти - не море переплыть, это поступок настоящего человека. ☝😔🙏🇷🇺
@jasonblundelldobebussing2 жыл бұрын
@Тити Мити, да нет, конечно. Он лишь усомнился, что мы, русские люди, его не знаем. Ладно-то Американцы, прощаю, но мы! Ух, Россия! От Кавказа до Владивостока 😄🦾🇷🇺
@jasonblundelldobebussing2 жыл бұрын
@Тити Мити 😭
@ejc51052 жыл бұрын
I knew that a Russian refused to retaliate, but I forgot his name until I watched this video.
@solidosnak1642 жыл бұрын
YESSSS BABY THATS WHAT IVE BEEN WAITING FOOR, LESSS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@jeanmilts Жыл бұрын
Amazing video man. Although I can't believe you missed the most important part.. There was a talking cat.
@lk83002 жыл бұрын
Peace walker is for the hardcore mgs fans. A phenomenal game that did things that console games, even mgsv FAILED to do.
@gowgearhead2 жыл бұрын
Loving your Metal Gear vids. Keep them up! :)
@OlinCaprison2 жыл бұрын
I have not finished peacewalker. The complications of the real world politics of Mgsv made that my favorite for the past few years but listening to this, I’m going to finish peacewalker asap!
@thatanimepfpguy2 жыл бұрын
Good point on how people have varying definitions of "world peace." My personal definition of "world peace" is "every human on earth is my personal slave"
@cromtuiseagain2 жыл бұрын
Cool video but don't let this distract you from the fact that EVERY CHRISTMAS, NORAD SETS UP A HOTLINE--
@DuelJ0072 жыл бұрын
This is the real reason they kicked out huey in my headcanon. And nobody can change that
@theonlybilge Жыл бұрын
14:58 he also met Hideo Kojima.
@hmmmooops2 жыл бұрын
I thought Vasili said "no" because he thought they couldn't be sure it was nuclear missiles and didn't want to jump the gun.
@duser2 жыл бұрын
I was going through your metal gear videos a few hours ago. I decided to get to work so I watched your scymchronicity video and logged off KZbin. Now the first video I see when I start my break is this... Max what is the universe trying to tell me!!!???
@deadlyninja1122 жыл бұрын
Some of us will be superhuman soon and carry on a new fight
@chumorgan443 Жыл бұрын
It's funny that Coldman was sure a person would value their reputation over their lives when we have THE BOSS as an example of somebody who sacrificed both.
@ameripenguin2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video as usual. I have an issue with how the use of nuclear weapons is portrayed in common parlance. Vasili Arkhipov is a heroic individual but we do not all owe our lives to him. Nuclear war does not mean humanity's extinction, nor does it necessarily mean the end of civilization as we know it. There are an infinite number of possible outcomes in a nuclear exchange and some of the most extreme involve the death of billions of people. Hyperbolically assuming that all life on Earth will be snuffed out in a nuclear exchange diminishes public understanding of the threat of nuclear weapons. It also presupposes that countries that are nuclear powers encompass all of humanity. They do not. Arkhipov saved thousands and maybe millions of lives, but suggesting they saved Earth from a black hole is inaccurate. Again, fantastic video, just hoping to push discussion of nuclear weapons in a more realistic direction as it's a big part of Metal Gear.
@moneyseeker8886 Жыл бұрын
This game needs a remaster so bad
@connorburris48462 жыл бұрын
19:46 "At least to those willing to crack a few eggs." That phrase has two meaning in the Metal Gear context.
@tydendurler95742 жыл бұрын
In the end i had more fun playing this and MGS Ground Zero in preparation for MGS:V than with MGS:V itself.
@evangreene4472 жыл бұрын
Great video! Kind of a shame you never did a video over Portable Ops (the other PSP game with Big Boss) since I’d also call that kind of underrated. But I get it, Kojima didn’t make it, and it’s still debatable whether or not you can call that a mainline game in the saga.
@maxderrat2 жыл бұрын
That's precisely why I decided not to. It's not part of Kojima's "one-word theme" saga.
@papapapa162 жыл бұрын
It is part of the saga! It's gameplay isn't as refined as PW but the story is definately worth checking out. It features the end of FOX and beggining of Foxhound, the first appearence of Colonel Campbell and Grey Fox and is a direct sequel to Snake Eater.
@thefearofg0ds7582 жыл бұрын
@@papapapa16 it's not part of the "one word theme" of the saga. And the story is the exact reason it isn't considered canon anymore(not even by Kojima). It needlessly retcons Gray Fox and ruins the mystique of Big Boss by saying the idea for Outer Heaven wasn't even his. "Army's Heaven? I'll just replace the Army with Outer and say it was my life long dream". That games story was a mess and I see why Kojima treats it like a bad fever dream of the franchise(or alternate timeline ala Ghost Babel).
@papapapa162 жыл бұрын
@@thefearofg0ds758 what's the "one word theme"? And what about Fox was retconned? He fought against the portuguese regime in Mozambique and later found Naomi in Zimbabwe, that was already explained in MGS. Also Gene had the concept of Outer Heaven, but Big Boss had a different interpretation of the Boss's will initially. He only decided to go through with it and form MSF to go against Zero because the Enfants Terrible was the last straw for him. Gene saw soldiers as expendable assets, Snake wanted to give them purpose and jobs. Liquid also had plans for his own Outer Heaven with the genome soldiers. In any case, PO doesn't contradict any of the later games and contributes more to the story than Phantom Pain, there's no reason to consider it non-canon, screw Kojima. It's a great prequel for PW, much better than just "oh I started this merc group because I'm pissed at what they did to my mentor 10 years ago".
@Ghostel35912 жыл бұрын
@@papapapa16 I'd say it is always the best way to treat it as semi-canon. Because as you said it does create that "Last straw" moment that finally pushes Snake to abandon USA to begin with - others also somewhat right that it is not as deep as other games... But it doesn't need to. Personally always viewed it as a Prologue to Piece Walker + MGS5. Told from Big Boss perspective, not quite consistent or deep - but a good story he tells people who ask why he left USA and started MSF.
@Beez_Churger2 жыл бұрын
just discovered the channel and series! cannot wait for the phantom pain retrospective!
@matthiaswoodbury Жыл бұрын
When I beat Peace Walker I didn't touch the Epilogue. So when I picked up Ground Zeroes it was spoiled for me. Haha. I find it very fitting that you left out the part with Paz
@MadMax222 жыл бұрын
I haven't finished this game so I can't watch this video BUUUUT Who else loved that beginning cutscene to persuade snake into accepting this mission?!?! It was an entire story in of itself. Intelligence and deciet mixed with lies and truth. All culminating in them essentially breaking the legendary snake and snake ending with a lie saying he'll do it for Paz. Chefs kiss!
@MadMax222 жыл бұрын
Less than 3 minutes in and Max has already hooked me I gotta go before it's too late.
@redwizard94302 жыл бұрын
I love that this game ends with an almost literal due’s ex machina.
@tydendurler95742 жыл бұрын
*deus ex machina
@MrLeolb22 жыл бұрын
oh god you killed those names
@teh1archon2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video. Peace Walker is one of my most favorite games ever and the second MGS game I've ever finished.
@SaltedMallows2 жыл бұрын
I think you didn't do the surreal elements of the boss's involvement in the story justice. Those dream sequences i feel have a heavy impact in snakes resolution to change, a surreal spector of her challenges his thoughts in his dream memories, while a cold real machine threat scrambles to recollect the the words for everything
@KBXband Жыл бұрын
This game is hands-down the best game on PSP in terms of its size and what it made the system capable of
@adamm3942 жыл бұрын
damn it, now I have to go back and beat MGS5 so I don't get spoiled. Good videos btw
@saeedbarari22072 жыл бұрын
did it have spoilers? I can't watch it either :(
@lordcavalier96882 жыл бұрын
MAD has always been a concept, the risk of attacking some one was always abetted by someone with a larger army might attack you back.
@pp-wl1tf2 жыл бұрын
14:00 there is a much darker interpretation of this scene, where Chico is essentially Big Boss's first child soldier...
@ItalianJoe832 жыл бұрын
This timestamp 13:32 may also cause some "conflicts" of massive magnitude with the viewer's "internal timeline" lasting for about 1 minute and 14 seconds "for a S-Special reason."
@benjamindover43372 жыл бұрын
A walk of peace? Or a dance or death? In the eyes of a madman, they may be one and the same. Next, on TBS!
@loganhayse87712 жыл бұрын
Honey, wake up. There's a new Max Derrat Metal Gear video out.
@blaked75322 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad i still have my hunter green sppecial edition psp that came with the game.
@rad3on9292 жыл бұрын
the paz's reveal was the thing that hit me the most, because she is my favorite character and got me into that cute anime girl persona, now i'm stuck with the feeling of inner destruction by the next games
@thedeaderer87912 жыл бұрын
Nothing like seeing a peace maker commercial on a peace walker video
@arturseguro2 жыл бұрын
I know you might not be getting as many views doing these vs other types of videos. Just wanted to tell you that it is really appreciated nonetheless. Thank you for all of these retrospectives.
@MasterJunior932 жыл бұрын
We have entered a new era.
@shadowknight1092 жыл бұрын
With what is going on right now. We are so split we would rather dig our heels in the ground then be wrong and become humbled by our mistakes. It takes this video to remind myself I should be wrong. F**k, learn from this. How ever can, learn.
@Lesandira2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! For me, MGS: Peace Walker is the last great MGS game, that ties the story and complete MGS saga together.