Race car brake shoes don't fit? | Redline Update #91

"What started as a simple drum brake assembly rebuild quickly turned into a multi-day project. After discovering that all the new brake shoes he could find wouldn't fit in one way or another, Davin had to explore other options for getting appropriate parts for our Ford Coupe dirt track race car.
Thanks to our sponsor RockAuto.com. RockAuto.com is an auto parts retailer founded in 1999 by automotive engineers with two goals: Liberate information hidden behind the auto parts store counter (by listing all available parts, not just what one store stocks or one counter-person knows), and make auto parts affordable so vehicles of all ages can be kept reliable and fun to drive. Visit www.rockauto.c... to order auto parts online 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and have them conveniently delivered to your door. Need help finding parts or placing an order? Visit our Help pages for further assistance!"
Subscribe to our KZbin channel for new videos every day! bit.ly/HagertyY...
Visit our website for daily automotive news, cars stories, reviews, and opinion: www.hagerty.co...
Stay up to date by signing up for our email newsletters here: www.hagerty.co...
Follow us on social media:
Facebook | / hagerty
Instagram | / hagerty
Twitter | / hagerty
If you love cars, you belong with us. Hagerty Drivers Club is the world’s largest community for automotive enthusiasts. Members enjoy valuable automotive discounts, exclusive events and experiences, roadside service created specifically for collector vehicles, and a subscription to the bimonthly Hagerty Drivers Club magazine. Join Hagerty Drivers Club here: www.hagerty.co...
Like what you see? Watch our other series including:
Redline Rebuild | Engine Time-lapse videos from start to finish bit.ly/RedlineR...
Barn Find Hunter | Tom Cotter searches the country for abandoned cars bit.ly/BarnFInd...
Chip Foose Draws a Car | Reimagining popular cars with new designs bit.ly/HagertyC...
Contact us:
Suggest and feedback - [e-mail]
Press inquiries - [e-mail]
Partnership requests - [e-mail]
#RedlineUpdate #HagertyGarage #NeverStopDriving

[@redneckgearheadgarage495]

Lol I was 16, working on my 68 mustang with 4 wheel drums. Saved my money, bought new shoes, springs and cylinders. Tore the first one down got it all cleaned up and had no idea how it went back together. I asked my dad, he says "yeah, I know how it goes, but I ain't gonna tell ya. Pull the other side off and look at it." I had it stopping in no time. It's a lesson I haven't forgotten 26 years later. But, take some pliers and close those sprung ends up a bit. They get stretched out during install.

[@approachingtarget.4503]

Best part of the entire episode. When you lay in bed at night and think...thats not right. Taking the time to DO it right is the difference between a apprentice and a master. Do it right or dont do it at all. ! Great job!

[@creepingjesus5106]

I have nothing with an engine, or any workspace right now, but I live vicariously through you. All of you. So...virtual coffee maker, tool/parts finder, extra hands and moral support guy here!

[@a_Fax_Machine]

Thanks for the shout out! I got her running this past week after a few mishaps (similar to what you go through with all these projects). I'll make a video of it running soon!

[@chadwynia5021]

Always love watching your videos, got a 78 Malibu with a BBC thats begging to get back on the road.

[@DustinSeiger]

Every time I see the green truck in the back I get tingles. That detail job on the paint is perfect. Great job.

[@brentfellers9632]

My dad taught me to only do one side of your brakes at a time. So you had a reference. That was before cellphones and internet.

[@Hagerty]

Smart man!

[@brentfellers9632]

@@Hagerty he was

[@mebordernoneya8484]

Same here. One of our mechanics in the shop did the rear brakes on a pickup and tore both sides apart. It took them 2 weeks to get it done because they couldn’t remember how to put it all back together. (He really wasn’t a very good mechanic, though).

[@ftby59mikeD]

Couldn't agree more with Davin on taking photos before disassembly, my mind ain't as sharp as it use to be & relying on memory alone to put things back together doesn't happen. Thanks Hagerty for this series👍.

[@scottallberry6713]

the old way is to just do one brake at a time and compare on reassembly...but that's time consuming when rebuilding 2 or 4 brakes. cell phone pics are a truest great thing

[@carlreid07]

That might be the cleanliest and most dimensionally accurate drum brake install ever.

[@adubbelde1]

In 87 I acquired a 37 Chev Pickup that had been my Aunt and Uncles. it had been in the family most of it's life. I was working on it with my dad and planning restoration. In 93 my Dad passed suddenly and I quit working on it. It sat in my mom's garage until I drug it out and hauled it to South Dakota a couple of years ago. There it sat until last winter when I finally rolled it out of the trailer and put it in the garage. My focus has changed from Restoration to Resto mod. I put a Fatman Fab front end on and a TCI springs and shackles with a 99 Explorer rear end. My cousin (grandson of the original owners) located a 2014 LT1/L83 with low miles and I picked that up. So I am working on it. It never would have been fun to drive in the mountains with the. original babbit bearing 6 and 4.10 gears. It's top speed was around 45. Now I want to cruise in it.

[@D.E.Middleton]

There’s nothing like doing things twice. Let’s get it right. Good job.

[@brand-x7049]

"We Do It Right 'Cos We Do It Twice!" :D

[@benevans902]

Thank you for showing the troubles with the top spring, I was doing drum brakes for the first time in about 10 years, and that spring kicked my butt, I ended up getting it, but wow made me question my abilities. Lol , thank you for boosting my confidence

[@m1dntlkgud]

Your taking me back to Vica competition in high-school. I did 9th place in the state during auto-shop. Class of '02. One of the races was rear drums complete teardown and reassembly of a GM 8.5 10 bolt drums 1 side.

[@njanous]

Love seeing the AD truck in the background. Motivation to keep working on mine! The 216 rebuild videos of it’s engine were so much fun!

[@EconoboxGarage]

Really appreciate when you show things not going according to plan. That what makes this series even more enjoyable to watch... knowing that I'm not the only one to mess things up on ocassion. :) Heading out to the garage now to work on my 59 Bugeye!

[@hiramadair249]

Davin, my next project in the shop is the 575hp-2850lb/ft Scania for my 40 ft lobster boat. Looking forward to cleaning it up, valve adjustment, polish the covers and paint her up. Love what your doin!!!

[@linusnsa8866]

i took a week off from work to finally get back to restoring my moms 61´ Mercedes Ponton. I need to get this thing done by August of next year for her 55th Birthday!

[@PRRGG1]

Gosh, seeing that brake spring wrench brought back good memories of my uncle Ed at the family gas station doing break jobs. He's been gone over 30 years but I could picture him sitting on a converted metal elementary school chair on wheels. He had a small tray that fit under the seat for all the brake drum tools. Thanks for the good video AND for not being afraid to admit a boo boo and doing it right.

[@whosurdaddy8907]

I like seeing the videos of the older stuff that I don't get a lot. I had a lumina I worked on with drums in '16, and that was the last drum i saw.

[@errhka]

My jeep YJ just has lights and winch left - my friends and I did the front Lunchbox locker and wheel bearings which was the big project. Super excited! Love your vids

[@mebordernoneya8484]

I’ve found that a large Phillips-head screwdriver works better than the “special tool” they sell to install the spring over the pin. The screwdriver doesn’t seem to cause the spring to hang up and it will slide down onto the pin much easier. Just anchor the “groove” of the Phillips head screwdriver on the pin and lever it over. The shape of the screwdriver lets it slide off without hanging up, and the groove holds onto the pin so it doesn’t want to slide off either.

[@scottallberry6713]

same, the slots hold it in place and the tapered end let's the spring come off easier. a lot less chaotic

[@stevenhagebusch9561]

I have a set of spring pliers from the 60s and they work way better then the new junk ones they sell nowa days but ya a good screw driver and vice grips have saved the day on many occasions

[@rogjackson]

Yeah these tech vedeos are fun! I'm working on my 70 El Camino, not pristine, rough around the edges, with a big block Chevy cooling problem at low speeds and in traffic. Trying a slightly smaller water pump pulley and tighter fitting shroud now. Davin's tech videos do make you want to get it going!!

[@TheBudynwaniliowy]

Your videos always motivate me to work on my 88' Suzuki Samurai. I have replaced all (and i really mean all) of the sheet metal and now im fixing the engine and drive train. Its a lot of work but very rewarding to see a pile of rust become a car once again!

[@PERKZERO]

David. The pressure to each wheel was manipulated by the wheel cylinder diameter between Ford truck and 62 Buick parts. For instance the RR could use more braking than the LR so a larger diameter wheel cylinder would be used on the RR that would apply more pressure with out using a proportioning valve…Great show, Greg

[@TheCrewChief374]

This is why I always have an older gentlemen from the era of vehicle I am working on. Because if they don't already have what you need on a shelf someplace. They know exactly where to go, in order to get the right part. It don't matter if it is in an old warehouse of one of their buddies or on a car in a barn out in the middle of nowhere. Yes, always have one of those older gentlemen. That has already been there done that. Because they will know where to find what you are looking for in the end...

[@snowking55]

Great video as always! I appreciate when you include the mess ups and mistakes, it makes it more like the real world. I always enjoy watching someone work on something that I have in the past to see if I can pick up new tricks to make it easier the next time. Keep up the good work Davin!

[@fm9572]

*Davin* for the record, when the car was originally built, drum brakes were the "proper" brakes for dirt track racing. the theory was, the Aluminum/Iron drums would protect the internals of the brakes from being caked with mud and dirt or flooded with water better than "those fancy newfangled discs" would. When I was young, slightly after the horse and buggy days, almost every "modified" class above "stock" at Ace Speedway in Altamahaw, NC when it was still a 1/4 mile dirt track had the same 5-lug pattern rim with those brakes and quick change rear end. And it all fit the rule book.

[@BrettBernier]

1981 Virago rebuild. Rescued it for 75, doing a full tear-down and rebuild on it. First project like this and it's overwhelming but every time i see one of these videos i get out there and at least make SOME progress on it.

[@TheMarcball]

Don't tell me to go after my project, chief... Darn, now I'm looking at this Facebook ad for a rusted Jaguar 420 with no engine or trans... Sounds like a perfect project. Oh my wife's gonna chew my positronic rear-end. Thanks for the inspiration and keep on trucking!

[@kyleforeman4543]

Another great video,lol, we've all be their before, glad Scott in Fort Wayne could help,, with shoes an adjusters,I'm 30 mi N of the fort. Never too old too learn.😎✌🤙👍

[@MrSnowplow2]

Love watching your videos. I’m getting ready to start an engine swap in a 2004 Subaru WRX for my daughters boyfriend. This will be my first time tackling a project this size. Thank god for KZbin and all of the instructional videos like yours that give me the confidence to completely screw it up I mean fix it right.

[@Captain_Flyn95]

Awesome Video as always. I have my little projects on my tractor as they come up. It's 51 years old. Currently i'm working on the mounting brackets for a set of new front fenders. Making them from scratch to fit the original as best as possible. Means, cutting and bending some channel iron, welding, cleaning them up and painting. Can't reuse the old ones since the damage from corrosion is just too great. Same for the fenders themselves. But i enjoy working in my small shopspace and maintaining my equipment i use for forestry.

[@lazyhoundracing9621]

Thanks for the straight scoop on how projects really go. Your spot on. I'm building a 53 Chevy 1/2 ton pickup for street and strip. Inline 292 with 6-71 blower and 2 650 DP quick fuel carbs. Billet crank, cam and rods. Ryan Falconer V-12 head (cross flow 340! 220 E). Electromotive direct fire coil over ignition. 5 stage dry sump. Will be tuned for 1000 HP. All electric P/S and A/C. Tremec 5 speed and Frankland QC. Some challenges there.

[@gregholloway2656]

Sounds like an awesome build. I have a 292 in my C10. The head sounds interesting!

[@WeekendWrenchTurner]

Hey Davin, picked up a '66 Rambler American that I'm going to be resto-modding. Thanks for all the inspiration!! Love seeing all the tips and drooling over you shop. I'm a masochist when it comes to shop/garage envy😂😂

[@batiusfinkius2923]

I got out in the workshop and got my jobs done, 15 year abandoned rusty Ford Capri fully rebuilt over the last year after doing as I was told. Now back on the road, solid and running good. Wish I had a workshop like that one but I did what I could with what I had. Now stop reading comments, get out into the workshop and get your jobs done!

[@yooperman301]

You kept me motivated to get the super charger on my impala. I’m back to driving it daily. Now I have to finish replacing the floor in dads discovery 2. Thank you from da yoop!

[@matthews3547]

I got a 1977 Toyota chinook I’d love to be working on. Love the videos!

[@n4zou]

When I do drum brakes I will put contact cement (glue) on sandpaper attached to the inside of the brake drum and with the brake assembly and tire on the vehicle turn the wheel by hand and adjusting the brake adjuster so the drum takes material off the brake shoes until they make full contact with the drum. Then take the drum off and remove the sandpaper and glue and reassemble. That way you have full shoe engagement with the drum when applying the brakes without needing to "wear in the shoes" with use. The directions on the glue tell you to apply it to both surfaces. Don't do that as you will never get the sandpaper out of the drum. Don't apply the glue to the drum, just the sandpaper. You don't care about the glue on the sandpaper because that goes in the trash when you're done.

[@nilejuneau1972]

Haha good work ! I got a 1972 cj 6 i have been working on trying to restore it to perioud correct stuff . But love watching these

[@crazyrat51]

Ha! Race car parts and stuff NEVER fits the first time.....EVER!!!! Usually all the parts have to be modified some way or another!!! THAT modifying to fit is what I enjoy most!!! YA GOTTA BE SMARTER THAN THE CAR!!!! REALLY enjoy your videos! Your Pal, Gary

[@lazyhoundracing9621]

You got that right! It especially sucks when they are one offs.

[@tremortech]

Interesting that one backing plate is cast aluminum and the others are modified sheet metal backing plates. They look similar to the infamous Chrysler Delta racing drums. Looking to upgrade the brakes on my Allard. This video, as usual was great!

[@AutoTechAndy]

Love the detail , organization super inspiring

[@GeeenJ]

i like the idea of those guides on the centre area of the shoes rather than those pin/ spring clips that always seem to come off i always get drums machined the same size makes it simle to assemble without mixing up the different sizes

[@vettekid3326]

Back in the day when drum brakes were the norm segmented front shoes were used for heat dissipation. They reduced the surface area to allow for more air circulation. Some of the early muscle cars even came with them before discs became common.

[@MrTheHillfolk]

I thought way back , that you hadda sand and file new shoes to fit the brake drum correctly. I thought I remembered hearing that somewhere but I got a fuzzy memory.

[@vettekid3326]

@@MrTheHillfolk Way back when I was in high school auto shop in the early 1970's we had a brake shoe arching machine that would true the material up and lightly sand the shoe surface to help seat the shoes to the drum. Of course back then the truth about asbestos wasn't known yet so no one used dust masks and it was standard procedure to blow the brake dust off with the air hose.

[@MrTheHillfolk]

@@vettekid3326 Yep that's the deal. Ever see some of those asbestos mining pics ? Dudes coming out of the tunnel covered head to toe in white dust 😳 Yeah when I got going in the car fix scene it was the late 80s early 90s, and the new "thing" was asbestos free gaskets and brakes. Haha ,do they know if the new materials are any safer ? Yeah , that's one thing to watch out for. When using those 3m roloc surface conditioning discs on ancient parts with asbestos gaskets or any gaskets for that matter.

[@giancarlopbranco]

That's awesome job! Congrats!

[@GenderSkins]

Yeah David I understand that, as I just picked up a 2001 Ford Ranger Edge and it is really irritating me. As the transmission keeps jumping out of first gear, and yes I have changed the transmission mount as well as put new tires on it. And those things did help minimize the transmission jumping out of first gear, but it did not stop it from doing that. I am just hoping I do not have to buy a re-manufactured 5 speed manual for it. So aside from that, I am just chasing a series of small oil leaks, on the Ford Ranger.

[@richardbehrends3128]

I would have sent those shoes out right away. 1972 I was rebuilding shoes and pads on the westside of Chicago. Could have looked online for the linings and rivet them yourself. Guess I am old school. LOL

[@freearmory3330]

production level of Hagerty is better than any tv series

[@jamesdiehl8690]

Oh yeah! I'm rebuilding the breaks on my 1999 chevy s10. Had to replace the calipers, pads and banjo flex lined on the front. Now. I'm putting new drum shoes on the back. Unfortunately, the wheels are rusted to the drums, hubs and lugs. Arrrgggghhhh!!!! Soaking everything with penetrating oil several times a day, for 2 days. Now I'm waiting for the temp outside to be cooler than 105 - 110 degrees so I don't get heat stroke. 🙃

[@paulsshop7839]

Ive been doing the same brake work on a 74 Powerwagon im rebuilding. I hemmed and hawed over swapping to disc, and ended up sticking with the drums at all 4 wheels. It was nice doing the front on the bench, but I know what you mean about not haveing the leverage!

[@blindeinsteinnichols2023]

Am going over my list for my 1973 lincoln continental I think i got all the parts from rock auto all my hard work I have done on the 1986 fiero gt is good now am ready to paint it had a set back when i had heart surgery am back to work now.

[@r1lark]

Yes, take photos on disassembly -- but always keep in the back of your mind that the last guy may not have assembled it correctly!!

[@bobbarron6969]

I wonder if the original brake shoe backers were arced into the hubs at some point? It was routine back in the day to bring brake shoes and drums to a machinist to have the backers pressed into the hubs.

[@My_Op]

Bicycle mechanic here: countless frames and donor bikes waiting outside for projects. In my defense, I got bored of the trade and I'm now learning to become a gardener. But yeah, they still stick in the back of my head.

[@Marshal_6]

And remember N+1 ;)

[@daddyspooge1]

My bike shed is full but I would dig through your pile....

[@TylerLinner]

I've got three vintage 3 speeds to get back on the road. They showed up in the driveway for free earlier this year... even if two are AW3 knockoffs, it's still a good deal.

[@mac8179]

Love this show.

[@Cain-IVI]

You know they make a spring tool that makes it alot easier, don't get me wrong I've done the screwdriver method myself but man the right tool makes it so much easier

[@douglaspierce316]

two master cylinders with a bar between them and the pivot was adjustable so one side had more pressure by pedal. this i believe was front and rear pressure. real old school. saw it years ago

[@ronniewalker2881]

good job man keep up the good work ethic

[@slipstreamgarage9216]

Got a 59 amc rambler classic I’m restoring just finished the axle and torque tube rebuild

[@ВладимирКоньков-л4ъ]

Сразу видно человек любит свою работу!👍

[@MaShcode]

Like overhauling mt bikes in a NYC apt where a certain butter knife is the perfect feeler gauge and the missing coffee cups are solvent tubs.

[@kipphawley4514]

Would wondering on that as why He didn't paint that last break backing plate black for. Very interesting to see as why. Must be for a reason why.

[@Hagerty]

It was aluminum and the other 3 were steel. So he just clear-coated it.

[@garyarnold8288]

Just like my first brake job in 1974 on a 64 Mustang. Took all the brakes apart before I started to put them back together. 4 out of 4 shoes were put on incorrectly.

[@s.gossett5966]

Davin, I've got a convertible project that's been waiting for some attention too. I just keep getting sidetracked. Someday though.

[@jameswaibel2467]

These should be big GM backing plates and brake hardware . I use 57 Roadmaster as an example . Your safety hub bearings and seal are Dana 60 3/4 ton Ford

[@88SC]

The project that Davin has been cajoling me to get on is, coincidentally, replacing the wheel cylinders on the DRUM brakes on my ‘61 Impala. Being able to drive it again will make everything better.

[@belyear]

Doing brakes is my favourite job on project cars. It’s a happy medium between thoughtful work and mindless work. Pure chill experience

[@TylerLinner]

Getting closer to my 73 Saab Sonett being on the road for real. Replacing the torn CV boots now and trying to figure out why the timing is odd. And my '62 F-600 radiator just came back from a re-core, so I have to figure out what I'm going to do for the NLA lower hose. No one runs 262's anymore. Thankfully my F100 and Honda Insight are operational in the mean time. Just did a road rally with the F100, and let's just say the Sonett needs to be driving soon. It's fun to see you guys solve problems over there. Was wondering what you did for springs- match em up or reuse?

[@thomashillmer429]

Did not know that there was a difference in the adjuster teeth gap. Doing a brake job on my 23T which has 55 Chevy drum. But have cannot find only the self adjusting adjusters. Also cannot find any in-stock drum brake hardware. Seem China or the transport companies have stopped shipping them.

[@skittlecar1]

I'm a tech inspector at my local track. That's a gray area! 😂

[@mikesalm5053]

Working on a 65 mustang 2+2 right now!

[@craigcaggiano431]

This reminds me of my 1935 Ford, that has GM drive train. When I needed to search for Wheel Cylinders abs rear drums and brakes. I tried several year GM cars due to the fact that it had a GM rear end..

[@bosozoku_volvo]

dude, if i could actually get into a house so i COULD get back to the 10 odd projects ive got, id be out there every day.

[@heriscooby3714]

hello sir.. I like your video, greetings from Indonesia

[@mikeschnieders7750]

Self adjusting drum brakes do NOT only adjust when you brake in reverse, they adjust every time you brake otherwise they'd be under adjusted. You wear down your brakes more going forward than the little amount of braking you do in reverse

[@greasemonkeychris4128]

Huh.... so that's how you're supposed to use that tool.... i just grip the spring with pliers or side cutters and stretch it on lol. I've been in the trade 14 years and i still do shoes one side at a time. Gotta have something to reference when you have the short term memory of a goldfish. At least these are a pretty simple set up!

[@GreggeSB]

I'd definitely rather be building an old school racecar, but I'm in the process of converting a Scion xB into a ultramini pickup for the owner. There's been quite a few hiccups along the way, including impending elbow surgery, but it's been fun for my crippled a-.......er, self. Here's hoping it works out like we planned.

[@met9009]

I got a nissan 240sx I got in on trade I need to get it done and sold, move on to something better :D Always enjoy watching your projects!

[@nathangardner7150]

Ok I have to know, how many rockauto magnets do y'all have? Can we get a showing of the collection?

[@nicholasabrahamson5880]

Guess its time to start my old ford flare side 😂

[@GBodyJames]

And that’s what you get for ordering parts from rock auto hahaha Sorry sponsor lol

[@heyitsdrew]

she's like, what's that? he says "that's my tip" I bet you say that to all the girls 😂

[@jagvette1]

Ok please correct me IF I am wrong, but I use the spring 'removal' tool to insert the springs, you use a plain bar ???

[@GumbootsOnBackwards]

Hey Hagerty, why keep running drums? Wouldn't a disc conversion be a better performing alternative? Thanks!

[@easyricer]

LMAO, Projects? Lets see.... I'm still waiting on the temps in Texas to come down enough to finish pulling the interior out of the Big Red Truck (1986 F250 Duallie). Gotta fix a sagging roof in it and sound proof it. The Wifes 88 Mustang convertible is still in the shop getting the EFI system straightened out and lastly the 89 E350 Camper... well at least that one is done! (I had to fix a water leak in it so that the shower wouldn't leak all over the place when pressurized! One of the days the 95 Harley will come back to the front of the line!

[@covid-20lit41]

What media is being used in the blasting cabinet?

[@fraud_hunter]

here in the Uk various grades of brake lining material is available given the type of racing the car is designed for did you consider having different ratings for different corners to give the same effect as the original cut outs ?

[@flyonbyya]

I have… And always will… F***kin’ HATE drum brakes ! Lol !

[@Troy_nov1965]

Growing up and into my mid 20s all I could afford was older well used cars. Other than a old used Pinto I got for 300 bucks I do not think I had a car with front disc brakes till like the early 90s. I went in debt for a new car for my wife , while I still drove a 73 Datsun PU. I changed a bunch of drum brakes! Those old self adjusters never worked worth a crap. There was always one that grabbed and would put you sideways in the road on a hard brake. I had a 70 Dart that went like stink but stopping it you always made a sign of the cross on our chest before you hit the brake pedal.

[@manicmechanic448]

Weren't those made of asbestos? Or are those shoes to new?

[@Junorr500]

So did we ever figure out what type of vehicle the original brake shoes that got refurbished come off of?

[@lemongames268]

watching you, i wanna rebuild my brakes lmao

[@hippynurd]

Ive been spending my time cleaning them, and not even working on them, much less driving them. Its been months since I posted any videos on my starion channel, and I have video to post, if I can get around to editing it.

[@beepeefromabove1592]

Why not use self-adjusters on the brake shoes?

[@Troy_nov1965]

Those things were crap , never worked right anyhow.

[@peterlattimore6013]

The leading shoe is "dragged" into the friction surface of the drum and thus achieving greater braking force. The other shoe is "trailing", moving against the direction of rotation, is thrown away from the friction surface of the drum and is far less effective.

[@WalksInThunder]

Fighting with 65 Mustang brakes pulling to the right. I think maybe a hose is collapsing on the left front. ????

[@waynep343]

Do tech inspectors measure wheel cylinder bore size. Older bendix and safeline brake illustration guides listed wheel cylinders by mounting type. Giving smart folks the ability to select different bore sizes that interchange. That allowed me to point out when I was forums moderator at circle track magazine forums the G body carrs that had installed full size front brakes that a larger bore snap ring retained wheel cylinder was available for 86 blazer rears. That fixed the fronts skid first issue

[@steveanderson5888]

I have been working on my best friend Chris's car it's a 92 Corolla with the tiny engine it's a 4-speed 300011 MI original clutch that still works great yeah I took apart the struts in the back of the car take me to and 1/2 days to swapping out and a ride to a junkyard sway bar linkage would not come out of the struts well to keep the story short it it rides like a Cadillac made from Toyota

[@bigpicture662]

So, What's the benefit or keeping drum brakes instead of swapping with disc brakes? (other than cost and keeping it original)

[@jordanbrige8848]

That’s what it is. People say what are the advantages and then start listing them off and say “those don’t count” and I don’t quite understand why

[@davebutler2776]

You can pull your guts out putting brake springs on also if the adjusters are not heading in the right direction it will screw up the drum ask me how I know

[@bradfordrick1]

"Working with springs means eye protection" said the one-eyed man

[@davidheckart639]

For me it was a bungee cord.