Race, class and culture: A conversation with William Julius Wilson and J.D. Vance

[@jaredyeung1068]

Soc 101 brought me here.

[@garysweeten5196]

One fact that separates these two men from other equally poor people is their incredibly high intelligence. Each can remember research studies from decades ago. I have read many research studies but trying to remember studies in such detail and emphasis and meaning is remarkable. The idea that America needs more people going to colleges to study liberal arts rather than working class ideas studying basic skills is wrong.

[@germiledavis3677]

I agree. I never heard of JD Vance before seeing this. I already knew Bill Wilson's work. I must say I enjoyed this discussion and found a person to the right of my politics that I could listen.

[@MixtapeKilla2004]

I wanna see Dr. William Julius Wilson & Dr. Cornel West write a book together.

[@pazz2023]

I'd recommend skipping to the audience Q&A around 1:10:00, I found it much more interesting than the initial segment

[@SusanSt.James-33]

Structural, cultural and agency (personal responsibility or initiative) barriers to rejuvenating a place/neghborhood facing economic and social distress. JD emphasises the latter two. WJ emphasises structural barriers. Structural barriers are forces within the larger society e. g government policies.

[@robertridley1029]

1:17:00 Clarence Page

[@donq2957]

Let me summarize for all you kids out there. Yak yak yak...we do something about poverty.

[@harveylin3548]

Look, those of us who made it are just making up new excuses to not give someone who didn't what we have, the more I watch those kind of videos the more I feel this is the same thing all over again and again.

[@Dan-sc9lq]

Read your comments and not sure what you are communicating.

[@garysweeten5196]

My culture was historically with a White Hillibilly, anti-educational focus. Do not get too big fr your britches by going to college. Secondly, it is a systemic, multi-generational issue not just an issue of personal agency. I constantly teach Ministers and churches about healthy family life and healthy social interactions. Greek Dualism is strong in many poor white churches so social and physical interaction is not affirmed.

[@general_electrics]

21:03 - Please tell Charles Murray that. He spends most of his time on "genetics."

[@lairdgarvin1170]

Charles Murray would visit a pigmy village and tell you blacks will never play basketball.

[@rebeccachambers419]

We no longer have traditional communities. Wish we could bring it back.

[@garysweeten5196]

College tuition, room, and board is too high.

[@garysweeten5196]

Support tech schools

[@tvidenbe]

very difficult to follow a conversation, where you almost need a PHD to understand the hyper-complicated questions

[@victorlloyd5271]

I have long thought it was a mistake for the United States to drop the military draft (during the Nixon administration). The draft forced relationships between groups of Americans forced to work together toward common goals. I think it would be good to recreate that. Possibly we could have it for general National Service and not necessarily military service.

[@harveylin3548]

Yup, I was in the same shoes as those in the discussion, and somehow I followed JD's footstep by joining the military, it was exactly as what you said, a class blending experience and I caught up in life.

[@_coachk]

That would be ideal I think. Academia isn’t doing it.

[@juggy666]

I'm not sure what it is, but the discussion seems very vacuous.

[@northpole6060]

100% i usually fall asleep in the mid-end of such conversations this time , right after intro.

[@Tivvv3]

Till the questions asked around 1:20:00 it doesn't seem to be taking automation seriously, nor mentioning the universal income (though it is eventually mentioned as negative income tax at around 1:26:30 but with debateable reasoning) as a potential pathway to tell everyone "we trust you, now do something with it, there's plenty (not necessarily immediately) paid and unpaid opportunities to do something!" and enable em to do so, with a solid foundation, and by increasing demand in structurally weak areas to not just create the basis, but also support the demand side. So yeah it seemed a little too focused on 'jobs' and 'china' to me.

[@Sokrabiades]

41:00 automation and education

[@robertridley1029]

7:00 there's not enough emphasis in amerikkka on the role of luck in why some people are successful