Race Engine Tuning & Tech - Engine Power S10, E2

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[@codygunby1634]

Post the part number to that spark plug wrench you used please. I really need that tool.

[@ryanwoodlee]

It's kinda funny seeing Frankie with a shirt pocket that looks similar to Pat. The student is becoming the master.

[@seakfpv6069]

Frankie is becoming pat

[@jasony9950]

Came to the comments just to say this exact same thing haha. I like it…. Not the pocket protector but the passing down knowledge to younger generations. Awesome

[@loudelvis610]

Erkle syndrome

[@jameshedrick605]

Can't think of a better way to spend a lengthy double bypass recovery than watching power nation even if it's episodes i've already seen. It gives me some ideas on what to build when i can finally get back to working around the house and get my car back in shape

[@brianwood7480]

I like your positive attitude James. Get well soon.

[@troycifer42]

Always a good day when there is a new episode of engine power.

[@dexterplant778]

As an aging motor head and tool horse, I appreciate episodes like this one, I don't do much turning of wrenches or actual work anymore do to physical reasons, however I have a 22 year old son who's a performance nut, my fault I'm sure, because he doesn't necessarily do the research needed every time I fill in the gaps with personal experience and great information I receive from channels like this, I'm confident that his future in the automotive performance world will continue, and with the 3 generations of specialist mechanic tools amassed he will have fun until it becomes impossible to do so, thanks for your continued knowledge and instructions.

[@chrisedwards8391]

Engine power is far and away the best show on powernation

[@destroyer6470]

This engine sounds gorgeous in this episode!

[@stevebarnette]

I’d love to get feedback from Engine Power on why you targeted 12’s and 13’s on the A/F ratio when the stoichiometric ratio for ethanol is 9.7. I know some software and sensors can calculate A/F from E85 into the more common gasoline ratios, but I don’t remember hearing any of those things explained in the video (aside from obviously needing more ethanol vs gasoline). Thanks. Love the channel.

[@kz6fittycent]

Yeah 12-13 is pretty lean for e85...

[@Thetruecrow]

They're probably running off of a lambda calculation since the dyno chamber would just calculate how much excess oxygen would be in the exhaust, then did a reverse calculation based on gasolines stoich like you mentioned, just a detail lost in editing since they usually run race gasoline.

[@OsX86H3AvY]

So Frankie grew a beard and Pat finally let himrun the throttle on the dyno...smart move young blood, smart move (scuff up your boots some more too, it'll help)

[@OsX86H3AvY]

nope....got to minute 16 and it looks like Pat not only took back the reins but also possibly murdered our young friend...RIP Frankie..."the stars that shine brightest get murdered and maybe eaten by Pat the quickest" (pretty sure thats the saying)

[@dwk7375]

​@@OsX86H3AvY Frankie was supposed to be chasing parts, but actually was getting nookie someplace😂😂😂😂😂

[@ArthurSperotto]

I wish you had tested E85 vs race gas with the SAME size carb, and a NON oxygenated gas (110 standard). These many changes make it hard to tell what did what.

[@BuzzLOLOL]

Sponsor's 'race gas' has to make more power...

[@csr801996]

I have a gen 3 coyote engine being built that lives on e85, man I wish Pat could build the long block for me, the care and detail they both put into builds is amazing

[@jasonhumphry5836]

Totally awesome to see a little adjustment make a little more gain in power and torque with just basic knowledge peace and much respect Jason

[@malamri424]

@3:50 interesting stuff about vacuum and detonation

[@cedricwilson2055]

True. Need to hook a vac. Gauge up in my car.

[@lewisdeclouette6342]

Man I love when y'all Duty shows like this love it love it

[@reviewaccount469]

I wish any shop out there was this good. You give people an unrealistic perspective.

[@stantaur]

Please test this combo on 91 octane pump gas (optimize timing & jetting of course) so we can see the high-dynamic-compression deltas between 91 pump, E85, and >114 octane race gas.

[@lukasboyer3099]

do you think you guys can find one of fords 7.3l godzilla engines i have seen those and have become really fascinated by then and i really like watching you guy do this stuff because it is really informative and interesting

[@davidgalea6113]

Not a big fan of the modern engines but anything is better than the usual sbc and ls stuff.

[@lukasboyer3099]

thanks dont get me wrong i love the old 350 and 383s and all i just want t find out more about the 7.3 godzilla

[@ZedTee77]

Yeah would be interesting to see what they would do with a Godzilla

[@lukasboyer3099]

@@ZedTee77 yeah i have seen people get crazy power out of those easy

[@TomSmith-cv8hk]

Oh Wow, you showed the clean side of the paper and declared the filter clean.

[@ZedTee77]

Unless I missed something he showed the correct side, the oil flows from the oil pump into the outer ring of the filter, filtering through the filter from the outside of the element heading inward, leaving the dirt and junk it catches on the outside of the element and the heavy stuff will sink to the bottom of the steel outer case. The oil then flows back into the engine through the inner threaded tube that the filter spins onto.

[@nathanjantz1283]

I love the videos could you guys do a ford 4.0L V6.

[@teto6912]

I like this frankie episode after episode keep it up brother 🙏❤️

[@cyclonekevin6199]

Drop that small block, in a 1st - 3rd gen f body, see what it do on the drag strip.

[@stangbanger93stickshiftonl3]

Im almost 100% positive the gain made from e85 to 104 was the 850 to 950cfm difference. More air equals more power. Id almost bet that if you went to a 950 e85 carb it make more than a 950 on 104

[@henrysmith8012]

Cast crank. Tougher than most know.

[@mercmaniac666]

gotta love the rx-7 tac they use for the dyno

[@kevinseybert5795]

It’s great to se a cast crankshaft and stock block handle some power . That said this is not a realistic setup for most people like to see more practical builds for the average car enthusiasts

[@gearratio380]

you guys should go head to head with the engine master guys

[@CrankAddict]

I invented a new drinking game for watching this show. Every time he says "E85" you have to take a drink. By the way... how did this episode end?

[@nerd1000ify]

A bit too much E100 for you haha.

[@dtengineering1]

Great show! Why are the front jets a different size to the rear jets? Cheers

[@Webrexxx]

Shy didnt you try running more timing on E85? You can see that you made more on race gas, that means the airflow was there, you just didnt run enough timing on E85

[@thiagobravo]

Why not EFI? Also why less compression on E85, If It prevents knock? Im no mechanic but i thought ethanol is comparable to something between 110 to 120 octanes.

[@richardcoleman9645]

Would have liked to see this run more of a 12.4-1 gas mix insted of 13.7-1.

[@jamesandannschmitt6835]

Lash adjustment effects overlap triangle. Tightening lash can simulate tighter you lobe seps.

[@cedricwilson2055]

Tightening the lash makes the cam bigger or smaller. Lsa is ground in, can’t be changed since your not moving the lobes.

[@jamesandannschmitt6835]

@@cedricwilson2055 I know that, but if you were to map the valve events you would notice the effect on overlap is changed and has greater influence than duration. The same with rocker ratio changes. Study Vizard's 123 cam formula

[@matthewgraham2129]

wait was this video already made, or did you guys take my suggestion? either way it was awesome and detailed thankyou guys

[@taylorsrus9543]

If I had something 13.5:1 and couldnt break 600hp, to the recycle bin it would go. Who puts E85 and does silly things like playing with lash but not increasing the timing?

[@ZedTee77]

I think ur expectations are a little too high mate, and these guys know how to run a dyno, they might not have shown it on screen but they sure would of found peak timing for the e85. Ethanol works really well under boosted applications which is what the internet generation sees 90% of the time, but isn’t as good as what everyone expects n/a. and in my own tuning experiences so far u don’t get much power gain from e85 over pump fuel on an n/a engine, what caught me off was that n/a the e85 wanted LESS timing advance to make the power. Ethanol burns faster than unleaded.

[@taylorsrus9543]

@@ZedTee77 way too many pump gas motors out there making 600-700hp NA. Honestly from a performance standpoint not going some type of forced induction is just a mistake. Just think how you would feel with your $20/gal race gas motor that you can't drive anywhere getting totally dusted by any factory performance car today bone stock. 😂 This motor would be nothing more than an excuse machine on the street today and ridiculous on the track.

[@ZedTee77]

@@taylorsrus9543 yeah I see what your saying, but at the same time everyone likes different things. There will be people out there who would love this in an old car just to make noise and blast around on the occasion. And not everyone wants to go fast, I couldn’t care less for fast, and high horsepower. I love just cruising around and chucking a few doughnuts here and there, ive got a cammed 5.4 about 400 horsepower and I have an 200ci in-line 6 that makes about 90 horsepower on its best day and they both tickle me the right way every time I drive them. I would like to leave the going fast for people wanting to throw money at shiny things 👍 it’s not for everyone

[@InnocentMiscreant]

I think you need to try a 950 cm e85 carb Usually e85 outperforms 110 race gas

[@davidmiller4594]

*A New Full Video!!* 🥳

[@n2oracer84]

Seems most people are missing the fact that the 104 race gas was oxygenated. This is like pouring in HP.

[@Mr16bit]

Adding fuel when using alcohol can increase power by increasing the cooling effect apparently. Obs limits to it from what I've heard but cool to see.

[@Matthew-xl5os]

Would love to see an engine build for an engine limited dirt track class such as hobby stock, pure stock, stock car, street stock etc.

[@lanemoreland971]

I'd love to see what Pat could do with a big block oldsmobile after seeing the 455 buick build

[@jasonhumphry5836]

I Second that I'd love to see a oldsmobile diesel to gas conversion that's what I'm building

[@jasonhumphry5836]

I'd like to see 1000 foot pounds of torque from a NA 455 oldsmobile because stock the HOT ONES 🔥 were 500 foot pound if you built for torque the horse power always come naturally instead of building a all out power house motor

[@Supercharged287SOHC]

@@jasonhumphry5836it’s possible but too much money involved for the gains

[@rynosraceroom66]

My favorite color on a block 🤘🏼Valve covers look great

[@SuperJeanq]

This young dude always talks over Pat and its so frustrating 😅 i admire his patience

[@blakebusbee7625]

I run 2 stop signs and blow through three red lights , because of Power Nation on my way to work !

[@davidgalea6113]

Yes me too, I jump red lights and stop signs aswell.. I t-boned a school bus, drove over a few kids and hit a nun on my way home to see power nation.. well worth it in the end.

[@nastimusnateimus]

18:27 what spark plug socket is that?

[@glenbrannon7224]

You would see over 600 HP if you went bigger, I run a 275- 285 .675 lift and make 650 on my 360" SBC Drag motor

[@bbirddragrace]

an interesting switch would be to see this engine on methanol with a mild power adder.

[@ZedTee77]

The stock block and mainly crank would just exit the building with any more power, it would need another rebuild with forged crank etc for that to work

[@billywilliams6853]

1:48 should the distributor always have O-rings??

[@michaeln2386]

The boy needs to stop completing Pat's sentences.

[@icarus_industry]

Day 5 of trying to become a full time automotive KZbin channel with the homies!

[@drspeed2006]

Keep it up brother, love the mustang, keep er' going

[@blackericdenice]

2:32 I wonder why Nick Garage don't get more hp when he use a carb spacer?

[@thomaslockley945]

I seen he put ptfe on head bolts do the bolts run through coolant passages on the 350

[@davidgalea6113]

Yes they do on the stock sbc blocks..

[@thomaslockley945]

@@davidgalea6113 everyone?

[@Redneckairflow]

Race fuel needs less volume so it displaces less of the available air therefore let's the engine appear to have a bigger cylinder head. Same with going to a true alcohol fuel.

[@lonnien.clifton1113]

ONE DAY G.M. WILL HAVE A OVERHEAD CAM ENGINE YALL.

[@SavageBunny1]

LT5 joined the chat.

[@s.v.gadder1443]

If you are gonna use race gas you. Need to run the race e85 too as its true 85 octane..... Regular e85 could be 60%.... Depending on the state....

[@nick4506]

can you guys put the air density and corection factor your dyno is doing on the graph? i want to know what the engine actually did not what it would do if you ran it a thousand feet below sea level. but withought that info I have no idea.

[@kyoteysamarius3102]

Anyone ever figure out who makes that spark plug socket?

[@mecanicodejetski]

6000 rpm is a lot of fuel, I have a question, i need 500 hp at 5000 RPM i have 454 1996 gen 6, what i can do with these blocks to be on the range ( airboat application )

[@gregorysmith1107]

What would happen if y'all added nitrous to it with the race fuel

[@brianwood7480]

Is valve-lash the same as tappet clearance ? If so, when it's reduced by 5 thou, what happens when the valve stems heat up and closes the gap even further?

[@BuzzLOLOL]

Yes... and you hope the valves still fully close...

[@dontdowhatido6503]

i have a question about carburetors. let's say fuel afr on average is too lean the whole rpm sweep. can you increase fuel pressure to fix that?

[@ZedTee77]

No. The fuel pressure to the carb is only feeding the bowls in the carb, they are controlled by a needle and float valve to regulate the fuel level in the bowls, think of the bowls as little surge tanks keeping steady fuel available for the carb to suck in. The increased pressure will just put more pressure on the needle and float, get the pressure high enough and it’ll push through the valve overflowing the bowls flooding the carb practically just pouring fuel into the engine uncontrollably. The jets in the carb is mainly how fuel ratio is controlled/changed, the fuel is sucked through the jets into the engine through Venturi’s in the carb at the throttle plates. There is other witchcraft-ery like bleed valves, power valves, idle circuits etc that do my head in but we can ignore that for the purpose of the question u asked. Hopefully that makes enough sense

[@tombrown879]

Very cool. But ""PLEASE, PLEASE"" can you put this engine on LPG propane. to see what it will make on a fuel that only costs 90 cents- $2.80 per gal. and still has over 110 octane. plus runs cleaner. i would love to see this.

[@nerd1000ify]

You always lose a fair bit on LPG because it displaces air from the intake. Unless you use direct injection.

[@davekulman8195]

Good test but none of you Dyno guys ever use just good ol'87 octane that would be a episode to see that would definitely fall under the budget build

[@springers4ever]

You should take that top hat off it...may make more w/o that

[@HPRaceDevelopment]

I think if was e85 afr wasn’t correct

[@davidgalea6113]

Please do a high rpm build, the car shows never do them, high hp is easy compared to high rpm, 9000 plus would be awesome. I would go with a short stroke to keep piston speed down. Do it with a small block ford or a mopar. the sbc and the ls builds are overdone and rather boring imo.

[@ZedTee77]

Yes I would love to see a 10,000 rpm small block! I know it’s possible, couple burnout cars in Aus live at 9,000 rpm, some had run 10,000 rpm with a blower on top. Expensive as all hell but it’d be awesome to see on a show like this!

[@SteveGrin]

what kind of spark plug wrench is that at kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHqqZYGKach7mdk

[@frankcastle9691]

Or you could just use fuel injection so you don't mess with all crap on a carburetor.

[@irombeach]

Never seen such linear power and torque curves. Maybe some photoshop retouching?

[@danielstump8772]

I want to see one of these things suffer rapid unplanned disassembly

[@ZedTee77]

At the power this cast crank is putting up with it’s a chance! The only engine fail I’ve seen on this channel is the bright green I think it was a 383 SBC that they had sprayed the snot out of with nitrous and had a supercharger on etc and it damaged a piston but pat seen it start to breathe hard and push oil out a seal and shut it down quick before it came apart. He was onto it quick, good operator.

[@coryridder1937]

Ice cream or a petting zoo🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@dwk7375]

. Probably stopped by his girlfriend's house for a few "minutes"😁😁,if his shirt is untucked and his fly is open we all know what he was doing 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@robfox5562]

Lol probably at the petting zoo 😂😂😂

[@dwk7375]

Or getting a little nookie someplace

[@TomSmith-cv8hk]

850 to 950, it's not about the size, fine, show us the vacuum numbers....

[@itseithergonnaworkoritaint7852]

All the extra expense for a custom solid roller and you dropped the ball ordering it with a 110 LSA. To make more power throughout the entire RPM range the LSA should be 106*, you would of been at almost 600 HP if not above it? David Vizard has been pounding the table about this for years and when Motor Trend set out to prove him wrong, they actually proved him right! LOL Look up his yt channel and go back a month or so and he gives the equation to use to find the optimal LSA to use for your combo.

[@ikiahlewis9169]

I seen it at 15 secs after upload

[@realycoolithink]

12 to1 or whatever it is is not a number to used with (obsession)

[@ZedTee77]

It’s about 14:1 I think

[@joshup1275]

Why not do a high performance big cam better heads on a 305

[@blairbreland1443]

Zzzzzzzz

[@superpug666]

Why, with an american engine looks so difficult to reach the 100hp/liter on pump?

[@xJackHunter]

This engine is a dyno mule for testing. This build is not showcasing the absolute maximum power that the engine is capable of making with its current displacement. If you want to see that, there's plenty of other builds they have done that are geared towards pushing the limits of the engine.

[@superpug666]

@@xJackHunter it was just a simple question.

[@superpug666]

@@IlPinnacolo no doubt, depending on the car (power to weight ratio).

[@davidgalea6113]

Not difficult , these shows use bolt on street stuff, you can get well over 2hp per cubic inch if you have the money. The sb2.2 heads and the yates heads come to mind.

[@xJackHunter]

@@superpug666 i gave a simple answer

[@irench]

What is up with all the sudden tom foolery and misinfo about flat tappet vs roller and which makes more power. I'm tired of having to explain that TORQUE is the important factor. That HP is a mathematical product of TORQUE. Cams and the DIY guy just don't work well together. From the guy that picks the last cam on the list to the one that puts the "rv" cam in the 355 saying "it's going to wake up the motor" The end results are always disappointed clients because the engine wasn't planed for its application. Guy on another channel put a 283 crank in a 400 block ( with spacers) and was tickled when it made 500hp @ SEVEN THOUSAND RPM! There is no real use for an engine like that and the head n cam combination is all wrong. It's just one example of what not to do. Here in lies my problem with DIY and "INFO" channels like SCOTT K. Pat here, is a well known and proven engine man and stays in his lane of expertise arguably one of the best "info" channel guys around. I see people incredibly misinformed about so many things and as a professional it makes me sick.

[@srhara9936]

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[@davidgalea6113]

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[@spawn0024]

This thing needs boooooost!

[@ikiahlewis9169]

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