RACE RECAP OF THE TALLAHASSEE MARATHON plus the run vlog #99

[@BookemDanole]

"A little stitious." I love it!

[@its_Matt_B_]

Michael Scott FTW with that gem! 🙌🏽

[@BookemDanole]

@@its_Matt_B_ Makes perfect sense, lol.

[@largeeddie]

😵Great stuff Matt! What I find interesting is that if you were trying to win a world major marathon, that's exactly the level of effort you would want at the start. You wouldn't mind running low on glycogen at two hours because you'd be within sight of the finish line. As it happened, you might have been off by just a handful of watts and holding back a bit on the big downhill would have made a difference as you noted, but you gave yourself a chance for a breakthrough day and came away with some data that tells a story. As for me, no serious challenges to report for my week. I matched previous one with 41.5 miles again, this time with a speed workout on Wednesday that seems promising and an 11 mile long run on Saturday. Thanks for the interesting deep dive!🤿

[@its_Matt_B_]

You really shine a positive light on my race, Eddie! It was a great learning experience even if I didn't appreciate it as it was happening. Another solid week for you with good volume and some excellent higher/longer efforts! 💪🏽

[@derekcyrph.d.4750]

Great video, Matt. Every marathon really is an experiment! 😵 Good luck with your training for Boston. Maybe I’ll see you out there somewhere!

[@its_Matt_B_]

Thanks, Derek! You’re absolutely right about marathons being an ongoing experiment! It’s fun to discover what we can (and can’t) do! Are you running Boston?

[@derekcyrph.d.4750]

@@its_Matt_B_ Yes, I am running Boston this year. I’m in the thick of the training cycle now!

[@its_Matt_B_]

@@derekcyrph.d.4750 Excellent! Enjoy the build! I hope we can meet some time in the day or two before the race!

[@PiercingArrowz]

Thanks for going over the deets sir. I had a good week of training. Decent volume, a good 14 mile hilly long run, and nailed my 6mile tempo run at a 7:05 pace. Squeezed out a 43:47 10k PR as well. 😵

[@its_Matt_B_]

Phenomenal week of running getting in some quality efforts! Well played! 🙌🏽

[@alanshrimpton6787]

🥵 When I saw your graph I thought you bonked and then you said it so 100% in agreeance. Pace down, HR down & trying your hardest is a bonk. As for me I had my 1st 50km trail Ultra in NZ 5:05:04 came 6 in age 50-59 and I'm 59.3 years old. I was aiming for 6hrs mainly Because I was worried about my hip issues I've been having but I have to say I'm now recovered from that. Didn't feel it and didn't feel it 48 hours later. 3 days on still DOMs in calves and quads. When I check my graph out my HR was at the highest at the finished. I had 4 Gels, 2 small bananas and a OSM bar. 1.5litres of Tailwind.

[@its_Matt_B_]

Yeah, there's no doubt it was a textbook bonk! Oh well! Wow! You really came through on your 50k! Absolutely phenomenal racing and WAY under your goal! I'm so glad your hip was fine. I'm sure it was scary to test the hip with such a long event, but it came through and now you can be 100% sure you're healed. Enjoy your recovery time! You earned it!

[@matthiassventoest6800]

great job Matt. You will be better next time, you won’t be fooled by feeling great. My training was cool this week. I have a trail half this Sunday, which is really just a build up to a 50K in April. after the 50K, I will see if I’m ready for more ..

[@its_Matt_B_]

Thanks, Matthias! Good luck on Saturday! A trail HM sounds like a lot of fun!

[@Greg-me8le]

Great vid. There must be different categories of Bonking. Your slow down looks gradual and your heart rate corresponded well to the easing of the pace. One year, I did a marathon way undertrained. I had no business running it. Of course, I bonked but even with the slowing of my pace my heart just kept pumping too fast the last few miles. I think when you run out of fuel and your body tries to inefficiently burn fat instead it can expose how well or how poorly your aerobic base training is. That must explain why some can run all the way home to the finish line and others can barely lift a leg after a bonk. 😵

[@its_Matt_B_]

Yeah, you’re probably right about the different kinds of bonking. I haven’t heard of the differences but it makes sense it would present differently depending on circumstances. It just felt like I was out of energy and my legs felt like lead.

[@markchangcoco5427]

we all know that "I want to walk feeling"!!! It happens during every single race for me lol Congrats Matt!!! St. Pete Distance Class (the half) was fantastic yesterday.

[@its_Matt_B_]

Congrats to you on a great race yesterday! I'm shocked you were able to run so well after running Donna the week before! Nicely done, my man!

[@brionia9760]

😵 great video Matt. Don’t you just love how life comes around again just to check whether we learned that lesson we said we learned before 😂 I did a 5 mile race yesterday in just under 45 minutes. I know my race pace is some people’s easy pace but I don’t care. I beat my target of 9 minute miles, finished fast, and am excited to be faster by the next race. Stay kind, happy and running well 💕

[@its_Matt_B_]

Yes! It’s funny when life gives a little reminder in case we forgot valuable lessons! 🤣 Congrats on your race and great job beating your goal! The very best thing about running is that we’re only ever competing against ourselves, no matter what our interval narrative says!

[@Jay-sd9ye]

26 miles at 7ish min miles. Damn, I'm lucky to keep a 8min mile for 2 miles.... Nice job on the marathon. I think u did better than u thought u did.

[@its_Matt_B_]

Thanks a lot, Jay! The finish time is not the part I feel bad about. It's a good time. My issues is with my poor race strategy. I'm lucky to have finished when I did!

[@IRunThings]

@jay I thought the same 🙂🙂.

[@eric-running-to-chamonix]

😵 I appreciate the detailed analysis ... and especially how a veteran racer can miscalculate. Stryd's race predictor is a useful tool, but can't be trusted blindly, especially when used as an enabler for wishful thinking. I had a great week of running. 86km in total. Two hard interval days on treadmill inclines. Back-to-back long runs (24 and 21km respectively) on a flat -- and mostly free of snow/ice -- bike path to gauge my effort level. Tweaked my back on decline chest presses, but it was short lived. And I continue to be injury free. Told the wife that I'm racing Canyons 25k in California at the end of April ... "well, aren't you becoming the adventurous one" with a mix of jealousy, disapproval, and admiration.

[@its_Matt_B_]

Your warning of not to blindly trust the race predictor and it being an enabler for wishful thinking is just so spot on! I'm happy to have re-learned the lesson! You really had a great week of running and i'm glad wifey is on board with the Canyons 25k. FYI, our partners also get to benefit from our races by dropping it into conversations and bragging about us (although that is something I would never explicitly say to my wife and I highly recommend you don't say to yours🤣).

[@eric-running-to-chamonix]

@@its_Matt_B_ KZbin asked me if this video was Informative, Calming, Life-Changing, Heartwarming, Enjoyable, Useful, Inspiring, Other. "Life-Changing" might be a bit of a stretch, and "Calming" seems a little weird. But checked off the others!

[@its_Matt_B_]

@@eric-running-to-chamonix 😂 Thanks for the positive review, Eric! I may be a little biased towards my own videos, but I 100% concur that me talking about having a bad race is not exactly life-changing content! 😆

[@dazdarren9926]

😵. Good video and lesson’s learned. As I prepare for my 1st marathon later this year I’m enjoying your wisdom

[@its_Matt_B_]

Thanks for watching and for dropping the 😵! Which marathon will be your first? Do you have a time goal? This race was very much do as I say not as I do, type of guidance! 😂 Start a lot easier than you think you can maintain and try to pick up the pace in the lyre stages of the race! It will make for a much better experience! 😁

[@theswerunner]

😵 . Finally getting some progress from my injuries. My heel and hamstring feeling good, just my shins left to heel. Alot of crosstraining in the gym on the elliptical and some strenght workouts 🫣 hopefully running more 🔜

[@its_Matt_B_]

It’s so good to hear your heading in the right direction and you’ll be a stronger athlete when you get back to running because of all the cross training! Keep it up! 💪🏽

[@Kelly_Ben]

Well... Congrats on finishing another marathon! 👏 👏 👏 I know, not what you wanted, but I love your honest break down. Your comment about the perfect way to NOT run a marathon reminds me of my last trail marathon last year... where I dropped at 20 miles, because I was going to run up against the cutoff. I broke all my own rules, especially fueling, and like you said, ran the race I deserved. Thanks for showing me even great runners run into the same problems! 😵

[@its_Matt_B_]

Thanks, Kelly! Yes, another marathon in the books and probably a lot more valuable of an experience than when things go perfectly! Still, I hope my (and your) next one goes perfectly! 😁

[@wildercountry1]

congrats on tally race. three runs last week. 1 good run....2 runs that were not great but a chance to learn. friday was a 2 hour training run with a friend. it was their 2nd long run of the week and their body wasnt happy. i learned i need fuel better the night before. that ended up being just 8 miles on friday. my sunday run i ended up bailing at the 2 mile mark. the wind was brutal felt like i was standing still plus got caught in the rain in tampa. i dont like running in rain since ankle surgery in 2020. i got a 10k coming up in march. plus thinking about a marathon next year. have a great week.

[@its_Matt_B_]

Good week of running even if 2/3s were not good. Bad runs can teach us a lot! I ran on Sunday and the wind was insane when I was running west bound. Running east, though, was surprisingly easy! 🤣

[@MrJermson]

Thanks for sharing this recap Matt. Looking forward to your next race.

[@its_Matt_B_]

Thanks for watching! Next up is Boston!

[@BookemDanole]

😵Great analysis, Matt! Thanks for sharing your experience!

[@its_Matt_B_]

Thanks for the 😵, Dan! In hindsight, it was a great experience!

[@mawilliams777]

😵saved watching the video for my day off, worth the wait, thanks Matt

[@its_Matt_B_]

Thanks for watching! Enjoy your day off! Any big plans today?

[@mawilliams777]

@@its_Matt_B_ I’m on my second week of easy/steady runs after a Plantar problem, coach’s orders! I feel like a naughty boy, but for trying to hard rather than not enough😳 Easy hour this afternoon, but I have decided easy hours are now called slow hours because they aren’t easy at all!

[@its_Matt_B_]

@@mawilliams777 I like “slow hour” better. Easy runs seldom feel easy!

[@philault2854]

😵 thanks for the analysis and video

[@its_Matt_B_]

Cheers, Phil, and thanks for the 😵!

[@cmigotsky]

😵 Fantastic reflection on your marathon. Sincere and honest. Great advice. l love my Stryd pod and often race with its power target, but it sure needs to be accurate reflection of your current fitness. Wonder why yours was so high? Glad you are healthy and injury-free. You'll kill Boston!

[@its_Matt_B_]

Cheers for watching, Chris! As far as my Stryd’s accuracy goes , i did pick up the new Stryd footpod between the 2022 Boston Marathon and this race although I would have thought it wouldn’t make any difference to the measurement of my CP. I should probably reach out to Stryd about the change between then and now.

[@the_mid_night_runner]

😵😵😵😵😵😵 Mate, definitely a great lesson. Did the same thing in my last marathon 🤦‍♂️

[@its_Matt_B_]

Thanks, Jimmy! It’s comforting to know I’m not alone! 🤣

[@IRunThings]

What is that app you mention? Metathon? I can't find it. You did a great job Matt!! It's interesting to see all the stats

[@its_Matt_B_]

Exactly. Metathon.com. You'll have to give permission for it to extract the deets!

[@IRunThings]

@@its_Matt_B_ it says 4h05 for my current marathon time. I think I'll take it. It's 40 mins less than my PR. Haha

[@its_Matt_B_]

@@IRunThings Yes, take it and run with it! 💪🏽

[@IRunThings]

@@its_Matt_B_ 😊

[@MrJermson]

@@IRunThings I was looking for this as well.

[@stevebailey1682]

Hey Matt...good analysis of how your race unfolded. I have a question about your use of power. Are you watching your raw power number or one of the two Stryd Average fields for power (3 second average or 10 second average). I find the raw number to be too noisy to be of any use. What do you find? Thanks.

[@its_Matt_B_]

You’re right about there being a lot of noise with the real time power number, but that’s what I was using. I was looking at my watch fairly often so I felt like I had a good idea of my power at any given time. I’m sure it would be better for me to use a 3 second average.

[@TimGrose]

Interesting about Stryd. I have found their estimator very "optimistic" - so much so that, as you found, best not to take it as gospel. I think it is partly as their suggested power seems slightly inflated over what you can do based on Auto CP. If I reduce the power suggestion to something I think is more realistic the prediction aligns much better with the ones on my Garmin Forerunner 955 which has been surprisingly accurate over 5K to HM. Am about to see over a full marathon.

[@its_Matt_B_]

That seems to be exactly it, Tim! I've found my Garmin marathon prediction to be 10-15 minutes more optimistic than i'm capable of. I look forward to hearing how accurate it is for you! When is your marathon?

[@TimGrose]

@@its_Matt_B_ this Sunday in Seville ! At least it is pretty flat there so pace will do me fine. Another problem I find with the Stryd (even the Next Gen one) is that Air Power is often a bit hit and miss. I think my CP came from a 5K race when I got more than I should have done and that obviously bumps up the marathon target power too. I think Stryd are aware of the prediction issues as had some FB "chats" with them.

[@its_Matt_B_]

@@TimGrose Good luck on Sunday! I'm glad to hear Stryd is aware of the issue!

[@i.p2088]

I want to run without the watch or phone. Only stryd. Will feel very strange..😵😵😵

[@its_Matt_B_]

This actually sounds like a good way to run "disconnected" because you'll still have the Stryd data when you're finished to look back on (and upload to Strava)!

[@keno.bowman9079]

😵

[@its_Matt_B_]

Cheers, Ken! An emoji has never captured a feeling so well!

[@greglane9983]

😝 Maybe flip the script and run easy the first 5 miles and wait for the downhill after 15 miles to race the event when. Enjoy the event more at the start and have something left to finish strong. James 4:10

[@its_Matt_B_]

That's not so much flipping the script as adhering to the script. I went off-book in this race, for sure. Running "easy" in the beginning is definitely the right way to run a marathon but the challenge is finding that line of what's not exactly easy but we can still hold on to.

[@greglane9983]

@@its_Matt_B_ I would do that for 5K or 10K race when I was young at my prime but at my late 50s I rather run half marathon to enjoy the event and run easy to my breathe and wait for the course the come to me so I'm ready to race the distance to the end.

[@its_Matt_B_]

@@greglane9983 This is a solid strategy, as is evidenced by the fastest HM/M times being logged using it! Also, I bet you're passing A LOT of people at the end of your races!

[@greglane9983]

@@its_Matt_B_ I do - And I try practice it on my runs and races going breathe to pace so I know I'm breathing properly and avoid having a side stitch pain in the middle of the journey. Lots of longs distance event have swags and a party after the finish so it's great to join it as part of the event to celebrate you finishing with everybody. Congratulations again on finishing and a wonderful time. My next half here is March 12 just after my birthday.

[@etiennevlok]

shocking how way off stryd is :(

[@its_Matt_B_]

Yeah, in this case it wasn't spot on, but most of the time my experience has been positive.

[@bfba7x]

😵

[@its_Matt_B_]

Cheers, Bryan! It was a tough day, for sure!