RACHAEL KIRKCONNELL PLEADS FOR THE MATT JAMES HATE TO END FOLLOWING THE BACHELOR FINALE

[@1105pitbull]

I certainly don't hate Matt but I am very disappointed in his selfish attitude in not giving Michelle the "2 minute" conversation she asked for after he ended things with her. To say "if I had know how you felt I would have given you that conversation." How did he think she felt after being dumped?? That was such a cop out from someone who was only thinking of himself at that point.

[@vintage_violet]

Ugh, right??? He lost me completely after that. Especially as I imagine that he knew how these conversations would go on ATFR, I'm sure he was prepped, etc. His apology was so canned and lacked emotion. This guy is clearly shut down. It's been a lot for him this season, sure, the show seems to have set him up to fail but he owed these women some acknowledgment of what they meant to him (or maybe he doesn't know lol).

[@1105pitbull]

@@Mayaa543 Not everything has to be "on camera." She could have asked him off camera. I'm sure there are many times that the participants have to talk without the cameras rolling. Had he really wanted to listen to her he would have made it happen. Contracts are signed, promises of conduct are agreed to, yada yada but what she asked was not epically tied to the finale.

[@valy5430]

There's no easy way to break up with someone. She asked him if he wanted her to fight for him and his response was that he couldn't get there with her. It sucks but what would two minutes accomplish after the conversation they already had? Michelle was my favorite so I'm more disappointed that she didn't just walk away instead of begging for more time. This was a 6 week relationship with other people involved but we're vilifying him as though he cheated on his long time girlfriend who just needs closure.

[@lyndamassie3672]

@@jessicaalbright7429 Someone got some private time when they found a used condom in the woods!

[@xahnfrater8797]

Jessica Albright with the amount of times the producers have allowed contestants who have already been sent home by the bachelor/bachelorette to come back, I highly doubt that they told Matt he couldn’t have a convo with Michelle. I don’t get how that would be a risk to the finale, if anything the people would want to see that and it would make for a more interesting finale.

[@GabbyTeAma]

The way that she asks people to stop bullying Matt while she is enduring so much hatred and bullying herself speaks volumes about her character. She could easily make herself the victim in this situation. But her respecting his decisions and defending them is showing her maturity and growth again. Maybe they will get back together one day who knows. But her choosing the high road right now is the best decision for her future regardless.

[@DaveNealComedian]

Ya it’s true, she’s got good advice given to her to never play the victim even if she is.

[@GabbyTeAma]

@@DaveNealComedian Exactly! That’s the best way out of this. Accept responsibility and keep your head up!

[@patriciawoolfolk3515]

Girl please

[@bandaqueenlove9134]

Exactly I’m really proud of her. I’m happy this journey is making her reflect better

[@camillegonsalves349]

@@DaveNealComedian How is SHE the victim of her own racially insensitive at best past behavior that she never disclosed before going on the first black Bachelor??????

[@suzukibeane1220]

"Bachelor Nation" is way too invested in the lives of others. Everyone should just get a life and allow Rachael and Matt to figure out theirs.

[@DaveNealComedian]

It’s a great point. Everyone call your mom

[@terriboucha4030]

YES!! Exactly.

[@Womanofkales]

@@DaveNealComedian I literally called my mom yesterday after you told me to. I told her that too 😂😂😂

[@lisahenshall3053]

@@DaveNealComedian unfortunately I can't call my mom. I wish I could. She passed away January 1, 2019

[@aintb2346]

Its a TV show. They brought the public into their lives. Unfortunately people do get too invested, but thats part of going onto a show like this.

[@AB-mx1de]

Both Rachael and Matt seemed so sad, devastated. I wish good for both of them moving forward, wishing people would not send hate toward either. Agreed Dave #teamhumanity

[@gj1695]

Thank you, A B.

[@nichellepeters5195]

That is beautiful. Humanity is #1 This made my day reading your comment. 👍🏾💯

[@bandaqueenlove9134]

Yes ❤️

[@husnaavhora6485]

I agree. I definitely was wrong in my judgement of Rachael. I thought her beliefs were racist, but I truly think she has a good heart and she was ignorant. She performed in racist and ignorant behavior but not with bad intentions. She needs to get educated and she’s certainly getting educated. I wish the best to her.

[@bobbysue6725]

Rachel doesn't know how lucky she is to be rid of Matt. Bad idea to have kids with a guy who will just abandon - just like Matt learned from his "father".... 🙄

[@roter13]

This happens all of the time. When the lead starts the season, everyone loves them and by the time it's over, a lot of people hate them. I would never do a show like this no matter what.

[@GabbyTeAma]

You’re right, especially with the bachelors. It happens every time.

[@DaveNealComedian]

Ya it’s hard to make it out of this alive. Even the beloved Tyler c has a ton of hate now. And he got dumped!

[@shabrinaz9877]

Nooo. When stupid ass Colton jumped the fence to force date Cassie He was celebrated and gained 2 million followers. After He harassed her for months and faked coronavirus... He still gets free interior design for his house

[@bandaqueenlove9134]

Right!!

[@jyn88]

Arie, Peter Weber, Juan Pablo, Jason Mesnick, Brad Womack, etc. You're right! A lot was hated at the end of their season and now Matt has just joined the list.

[@candelariaw1668]

He can forgive her but that don’t mean he got to be with her!!

[@jeannewomack7265]

I saw no forgiveness though..

[@marzigeisha]

Dude is broken, he deserves a fecking minute to recover. To say he's been traumatised is not even close to the reality. He has spent every second trying to do and be everything for everyone. Represent the black community, not let them down, represent black men... its too damn much, everything he says is dissected.

[@jeannewomack7265]

Isn't that SAD?!!!! He had to cower and be a jerk to make them happy!

[@emmabbyreborns341]

If Rachel has to face consequences for her actions, and Chris has to face consequences for his words.... why shouldn’t Matt?? Rachel, you deserve a man that will stand by you through thick and thin. Matt is not that man. It appears he’s a lot like his dad. When the going got tough, he left. Run sweetie, run.

[@susantront9702]

I agree Matt is only worried about himself and he couldn't possibly have truly loved Rachel.

[@niara961]

Consequences for what? Breaking up with her?

[@emmabbyreborns341]

@@susantront9702 the fact that he didn't give Michelle the two minutes she requested, coupled with the contempt he showed towards Rachel on ATFR only confirms the caliber of a man he truly is. I'll leave it at that.

[@dionnegreen9120]

He should be running from Her!!! Good job Matt!!

[@jeannewomack7265]

@@emmabbyreborns341 100 and 100.. I'm disappointed.

[@ArianaMillie]

'Dont give someone the keys to your emotions like that' is one of the best things I've heard 😯

[@DaveNealComedian]

Ya i mean in the end it’s your blood pressure and your stress and your body, why let someone else dictate how you’ll respond.

[@Richard-lh3te]

It’s pretty crazy that he’s receiving so much hate, he did say there was more to the story and that Rachael wasn’t understanding the problem after discussions. Her mother was liking comments saying Rachael couldn’t be racist since she was sleeping with a black man, imagine her being Matt’s mother in law.

[@jeannewomack7265]

Imagine his mother being her mother in law, too! LOL

[@angied5029]

Let’s be clear, NO ONE is deserving of hate including those who have wronged others.

[@jancondon3326]

YESSSSSSS!!!!!!!! 👍

[@BuzzyMenos]

There’s nothing wrong with stepping aside to reflect and not be with someone. He shouldn’t be getting all this hate for his decisions. The decision is his. Not ours. People are twisted to think that sending hate will change his mind. Like what do you want from him? Another apology? Or to get back with Rachel? It doesn’t make sense. Before sending hate please think about it before doing so. I don’t understand how someone behind a screen can just blatantly leave a hate comment on someone’s page. I just hope they grow. I mean I couldn’t watch the rest of the season because of all the drama but I won’t go out of my way to send hate to the ladies for being dramatic.

[@beatrice2236]

I wonder if he gets back with her if he will still be this horrible, non Christian person who is racist (yes he has been accused of that) has mommy and daddy issues and needs therapy? Funny how when they knew he was choosing her he was none of those things....

[@DrLee-gq9wd]

THANK👏🏾YOU👏🏾❤

[@BuzzyMenos]

@@beatrice2236 so true! He is not our moral compass. Just because you felt bad for Rachel, does not mean Matt was the cause for her actions. He had to step back after being put on this pedestal and realizing he wasn’t going to be the person people wanted him to be, on top of realizing he was with someone who perpetuated racist behavior.

[@stardustmelody2709]

I don’t believe in spreading hate but that doesn’t mean I’m not disappointed in him. Geez! He broke up by phone. Rachael deserves forgiveness. He ran as soon as it got hard. He cares more about the people on social media than he cares about Rachael. He wouldn’t even hug her goodbye or give Michelle a two minute talk. He was never ready for marriage or for love, in my opinion.

[@jeannewomack7265]

Thank you!!! AMEN and AMEN!!

[@Listen2me400]

An emotional roller coaster ride for all involved. Wishing them all the best.

[@KaylaNatalie]

What I don’t get is why Matt is getting hate at all?

[@DaveNealComedian]

as I mention, some people can only empathize with folks they recognize, so they see Rachael and they feel their own heartbreak,

[@beatrice2236]

Because he is a Black man that rejected a White woman that they feel has been victimized. When he "chose" Racheal he was standing up to black people, following his heart, he was a great Christian guy...now that he has decided he did not want to be with her they are not only attacking him , but his family and implying all kinds of twisted things. Since he did not do what they wanted NOW he needs therapy, and is not a man of faith. Bottom line, why would they care that much about someone else's love life.

[@michaelgoedeker9697]

I personally don’t like the way he treated Michelle. She was so excited to have made those jerseys, and he was just like, we need to break up. Where in the world did that come from. His line with Abigail. I was so comfortable in our love, that I fell in love with other women.

[@Jess-hf9me]

@@DaveNealComedian Very accurate comment Dave.

[@Ben-xl7fq]

Can you please tell me the difference between hate... and making comments with a different perspective? I don’t hate Matt at all! He just treated Rachael very badly. Why is it always Rachaels job to rescue and yet no one did it for her?

[@sandrarawn2147]

🇨🇦 Matt needs to get over himself! To end a relationship where he's supposed to love her over a costume party where she didn't think about she'd be hurting people! Like get over it. It's over! I'm so sick of all the drama this party started!

[@jeannewomack7265]

Lol. Thank you.

[@donnahahn2313]

Matt go get her she loves you Matt.I cryed !

[@alinemichaud5914]

It's very clear to me that Matt was not ready for commitment.

[@gj1695]

Exactly. He thought he was, but he wasn't. Matt took a risk and faced his mistake in doing so, head on. I have nothing but respect for the guy. I would not want to be in Matt's shoes. He gets in his head and it comes across as unemotional. But I have no doubt that he is a sensitive guy -- as was obvious in his emotional breakdown after ending his relationship with Michelle. He was gracious enough to break up with Michelle in person, instead of making her go along with the charade of dressing up in a gown only to be rejected on proposal day.

[@malachithegreat3889]

....not ready for commitment with a woman whose upbringing is charged with racially insensitive southern culture. Hmm I wonder why.

[@AlexanderScalisi]

I honestly agree in most aspects if you say you love them and that you tell them you will go through the hard times with them then something like this shouldn’t ruin the relationship. However, I understand when people say he doesn’t owe that. That being said I think the biggest problem I had was Matt’s total lack of empathy or forgiveness for someone that just didn’t know. In the AFR Rachel apologized profusely and he was so cold and empty to her. He couldn’t even say I forgive you, not needed to get back together. That is just a lack of humanity.

[@thestarinhereyes2]

.... did you for one second, even think about HIS feelings and how betrayed he felt knowing the love of his life was racist???? That’s heartbreaking! How can you, in 2018, not comprehend that what yo e doing is racist? How can you not understand? You intentionally went to a party knowing the meaning and didn’t think it was a big deal, and dare to marry or even raise a mixed child with that mindset? Do you know how scary that is??? To love someone who is racially insensitive towards you??? Fam... y’all amaze me with your mindsets... the lack of EMPATHY and comprehension for black people is bewildering... it’s like the default setting for you guys is “APATHY”, and worse HATRED for some.

[@LauraLevesquetv]

I definitely agree. Matt is able to feel the way he does towards her and her actions but she has been getting shit on for months and months. The least the could of done for someone he “loved” was show her some sort of empathy to her

[@olivenkabinde7058]

I'm black but I thought he will work with her through this,he still going to make super bad choices ,he will need sympathy, I believe Rachel she will change,I think Matt want to please people for not going on with her.he loves her,she is crazy about him.i will pray for both of them.better the devel you know than the angel you dnt know.

[@AlexanderScalisi]

@@thestarinhereyes2 I don’t know how you think I didn’t think about Matt’s feelings. Second you are saying she is a racist like it’s a fact and that is just your opinion. Like Emmanuel Acho I share the same view she is not racist. She honestly was just at a party that she didn’t know at the time what it meant. Lastly, Matt is already bi-racial and chose a woman that is not black. To some degree he would always have to have those type of conversations. Also how can you claim he felt so betrayed. He saw the pictures already and had an interview and said Rachel would in time speak to it. Now with all the pressure and backlash he saw from the cancel cutler he was so cold that a simple forgiveness couldn’t happen? To me it shows lack of emotional empathy even when hurt.

[@padiddia]

@@thestarinhereyes2 She is NOT racist. There is a difference. She went to a southern belle - let's dress up party. I don't believe for one minute that she thought anything about race and the insensitivity and ignorance about her actions there and in giving thumbs up to photos of her friends Ignorance is not being racist. If she was why would she go on a show with a black man...and fall in love with him? I absolutely hate all the awful racism in this country and nothing seems to ever change. But I don't think this was Rachael's intent. He was awful to her and to Michelle. Shows no empathy or emotion whatsovever. Glad Michelle called him out - she definitely dogged a bullet

[@CraftyComeLately]

I think more people are disappointed/mad/angry for how he dumped Michelle. He was so into her all the way up to the roof dangling date and then 180 degrees shift, cold and unexplaining. Not only Michelle didn't see it coming. Neither did any viewer.

[@vintage_violet]

Yeah that's what turned me off Matt for sure. Production also did him no favors playing all that silence with Rachel out. I'd have much rather seen the Michelle and Rachel conversation. Matt was shut down and probably with good reason, he wasn't ready for any of that show sadly, but production was OFF this whole season imo and they need to own it. I'm just so glad Michelle is gonna get her a real man soon!! 💜💜💜

[@DaveNealComedian]

Ya that has more merit to speak of cause there are less variables at play. Clearly he doesn’t know and wasn’t coached well on how to do that

[@emilyc5625]

Yeah bc he was giving the audience what they wanted to see as the perfect bachelor ! He knew what he was doing

[@keishapuryear8180]

No one ever sees it coming if the person picks someone other than whom we expect . That's how they edit the show to setup cliffhangers

[@halifaxeh]

I completely expected him to pick Rachael. She’s the only one whom he told he was falling in love. When Michelle said it, he said “thank you.” But she may have thought he didn’t want to say it to anyone until there was only one left, which is how they used to do it. The only thing I’m mad at Matt for is not giving Michelle the two minutes. But at the end of the day, it’s not for any of us to be mad at him or Rachael. It’s not our lives. She made mistakes. She’s ignorant. But the way she has conducted herself and the respect she has shown Matt since this all happened suggests to me that she has a good heart but she’s lived a sheltered and probably clueless life. That’s no reason to hate her. And Matt not being ready for marriage is no reason to hate him.

[@jenmurphy7777]

"How about team humanity?!" ☺

[@DaveNealComedian]

Shut up Canada!!! Jkjk. You’re so right. ;)

[@lilyseibert1138]

Kinda annoying how whenever something like this happens on the show everyone rushes to their own conclusions, saying things like "he never loved her in the first place" or "he broke up with her just to maintain his image" unless you know him personally chances are you don't know what happened and should ease back on the judgment a bit

[@DaveNealComedian]

Great point. Everyone is so invested and thinks they know but none of us do

[@terriboucha4030]

Exactly 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@daniellap8939]

Well it certainly seems that way doesnt it? It looks like he is just there for clout

[@jeffmiller3596]

That is social media for you. Nobody knows what is any of these peoples hearts, but they sure act like they do.

[@lilyseibert1138]

@@jeffmiller3596 So true

[@IAmNotNicolex]

Oh boy. I just finished my coffee. Must get more for this. My take on the whole “if Matt really loved her, he would’ve stayed and helped...” idea... in order to love someone, you have to love yourself. Matt seems to just be struggling with his own emotions as well. As he said, he doesn’t want to be emotionally responsible for Rachael. His mental and emotional health matters, too. He’s putting himself first. If he can’t put himself first to realign and figure things out, then he’ll never find that self love and self respect. So he’ll never be able to fully love someone else. He shouldn’t have to take on another load of pressure on top of being the first black bachelor in the climate we’re in. He said he didn’t sign up for this. How was he supposed to know that one of his contestants, the one he ended up choosing at the end, would have so much controversy surrounding racism? Everyone just needs to work on themselves in this case. Then maybe they can work together, should they choose to. Apologies if I worded anything weirdly. I’m not the best at wording some things.

[@DaveNealComedian]

ya its a strong coffee kinda day

[@robertb.1273]

Matt the "Narcissist" does not love anybody else, but himself.

[@vanessastlouis5636]

So agree

[@beatrice2236]

@@DaveNealComedian Dave you make a lot of good points and have made me do some self reflection. Sometimes it is hard because some of us truly don't understand why others can't ever give some the benefit of the double or "grace" and claim to want to learn, but really just want to justify.

[@Hallelujur]

@Ruth Bucey Oh shut up keyboard capslock warrior. 😌 Matt's fine. He was put through the ringer and he did a great job. Also he's human with issues. Like the rest of us. ✌

[@elizabethw9508]

Dave the time you take to level things out is very appreciate.Thank You for Your efforts to create balance. Standing behind the curtain is a very different conversation than someone in person with tonality.

[@jeannewomack7265]

I agree, but the politics of it make it very difficult to create true balance. He's still doing it better than anyone else! ;) I get too worked up over it.. ;o) It's nice to see a side using their voice that mainstream censors. =p

[@AB-mx1de]

Yes, we really do need less hate 😥

[@snarkycharlies]

The best self reflection happens after scrolling through the 47 selfies you just took for IG

[@DaveNealComedian]

Hahahahahahahha

[@shabrinaz9877]

I self reflected 15x already today in the bathroom

[@graceh9227]

Lol true! I honestly stopped taking selfies and caring about posting on IG and my mental health is 100% better and I’m using my time better bc it would take 100 Pics to get the right one I’m not photogenic 😂

[@PMMcDaniel]

Matt is Not getting "Hate." Stop using that catch all word. Disappointment is not hate, and a very valid reaction to this finale. I certainly haven't read everything people have said, but what I have read is not hate.

[@CommonsensewithHollyHawks]

Nope, what he did to her by throwing her under the bus, him being unbelievably cold on ATFR even after she’d been through hell, and then after all of that still making a conscious effort not to forgive her, it was cruel. I wish them both the best, but Matt is supposed to be a Christian man, and this is not how we are taught to love, or to forgive.

[@peggymartin7905]

He’s a fake Christian, as a true Christian would never act that way

[@Jess-hf9me]

You guys are very very judgmental calling him a fake Christian. Only Jesus had it right all the time. I could say you are a fake Christian just from the comment. Seems a lot are taking his dumping of Rachael very very personally as if it was them. You all must really see yourselves in her as well as her past. I thought he treated Michelle worse but I would not call him a fake Christian.

[@donnag7908]

People need to just stop with the hate. It's pretty clear Matt isn't ready for a relationship. He has a lot of emotional issues he needs to work on. It's better for him to end it now than to string Rachael along while he deals with his personal stuff. Hopefully, they are both receiving counseling and in time they will be able to grow from the experience.

[@emilyviolet101]

Very true.

[@daniellenic0lee]

I don’t understand why some people think Matt owes Rachel his forgiveness just because she said sorry. You can’t tell a black man who found out that he chose a racially insensitive white woman that he has to be with her and get over it. Matt has to process this on his own and find out why he didn’t have these important conversations regarding race during the early dating process.

[@Jess-hf9me]

He never said he didn't forgive. He just said they can't be in a relationship. People are acting like he abused her and how dare he not forgive this white woman for her past. They are also downplaying it by acting like it was just a party she didn't know the meaning of. A lot more than that came to light. I don't hate Rachael but the amount of sympathy she is getting is unreal.

[@milwaukeemotor5995]

I think he's being criticized just like every other Bachelor/Bachelorette, this too shall pass.

[@jennyparra8089]

It just didn’t add up, he defended Hannah Brown for saying the n word, who also went to antebellums

[@jeannewomack7265]

Bingo..

[@gj1695]

I used to have to hit the snooze on my alarm in the morning. Now I jump out of bed with the thought, "I wonder what Dave has to say today." Dave Neal. Better than coffee. 😁

[@DaveNealComedian]

Aw you’re too kind. I usually do the same. I wake up and say what does Dave Neal have to say today.

[@gj1695]

@@DaveNealComedian Hahaha 😄

[@51wobetmit]

Directing hate towards either Matt or Rachael or their family is effectively hurting the both of them if it hasn't become obvious by now. Preaching about forgiveness starts with our forgiveness of others and we can start by giving Rachael and Matt the benefit of the doubt as we don't know the complete story. In some way, I suspect that the backlash against Rachael would have reached a boiling point had Matt stayed with her, and the break up has given her a chance to do her work as he put it and her getting the full credit. Trying to be objective about this, Matt deserves to be understood, and Rachael deserves a chance to be heard and be a change agent.

[@sandrarawn2147]

🇨🇦 my advise to Racheal, walk away from all of this drama! It's gone wayyyy to far. You've apologized many times. Racheal I once dressed up as a pregnant nun! Oooppps

[@alfonsogayman9699]

That’s not racist tho. Big difference. I look forward to where Rachael goes from here.

[@gj1695]

Thank you, Rachael. People seem to have lost the ability to put themselves in other people's shoes. Social media is our downfall. I'm so over it. Give the guy a break.

[@gj1695]

@Billy Wallace Yes.

[@christinesmith7505]

Matt’s a good guy. He just isn’t ready for an adult relationship that doesn’t include his mama.

[@jenniemanning7062]

This girl really loves Matt. When asked Michelle do you still love Matt, she said I'm over it! This means she was never in love or falling in love! Rachel, is in love with this man, personally speaking. A person who really loves never gives up on that person, they protect that person, any means necessary. Trials always test your love!! Is that person still standing with me when I turn around and look over my shoulder? No disrespect to Michelle.

[@vanda3393]

But hé treat michelle like crap what do you expect .

[@jenniemanning7062]

He's listening to society, instead of his first mind!

[@jenniemanning7062]

Being black man, it's hard to see people nnot realizing the black struggle!! We have to stop seeing ourselves as victims and seeing that we have been perpetrators too!! Matt. Is a good person with abandonment issues. But he doesn't realize that he is not his past!! because he does not realize that he is not his past....he can't see that Rachel is not her past. So he needs healing of his mind was well.

[@jeannewomack7265]

YES!!!

[@emilyg.6639]

For being a Christian, Matt surly doesn’t know what forgiveness is. He threw Rachel under the bus and made himself a victim. You woulda thunk she killed his dog or stole from his grandma or something. Most of us supported Matt, but he showed his true colors at the end. Personally, I think Rachel dodged a bullet.

[@emmabbyreborns341]

Oh my gosh, yes!!

[@islacaney9479]

If a guy you fell in love with took pics 3 years ago liking multiple pics celebrating men who have multiple girlfriends and liking pics of prostitutes on social media. And after you fell in love with him, it's brought to your attention. He responds to you by apologizing and saying he didn't realize it would be offensive to you or other women. In spite of your deep feelings, you are turned off by his lack of maturity and wisdom...and therefore decide to break up with this guy to process the situation. Is that not a reasonable response???

[@ElizabethWest90]

I hope the Crying Elf is one of your subscribers😄❤

[@DaveNealComedian]

Haha I couldn’t remember her exact costume but it was heartbreaking!

[@kristopherbrown8021]

i was apart of the group that was closed. i had to leave. the admins were allowing so many racists post and statements.

[@DaveNealComedian]

which group? was it on facebook? facebook seems to be the worst place for group think

[@kristopherbrown8021]

@@DaveNealComedian This was in the "I support Rachel Kirkconnell" group. Apparently racially insensitive things that were being said in the group about Matt got back to Rachel. Also the group was thought to be ran by Rachel's mother. This will all have to be checked ofcourse..but the group no longer exists. But to be honest the other bachelor groups have also been very adamant about their feelings towards Matt . "The Bachelor" group had to reorganize it admins and mods because they were allowing terrible posts about Rachel Lindsay and Michael Strahan.

[@jeannewomack7265]

@@kristopherbrown8021 Sounds like if it's against the agenda currently spearheaded by R. Lindsay, they want to censor it. You know, the other voice not allowed an opinion. I wouldn't doubt they created it and said it was her mom, but I'm speculating about that part.

[@kristopherbrown8021]

@@jeannewomack7265 racism is Not a joke or a game. This has nothing to do with Rachel Lindsay.

[@kristopherbrown8021]

@@DaveNealComedian So allegedly, the group was called "I Love Rachel" and it was ran by her Rachel's mother. Word did get back to Rachel K who in response wrote the Instagram post. This happened after I left the group.... But this is the story that is being tossed around

[@judya3455]

No one knows what another person has lived through and all the things that have happened to shape their lives. It's the same for each of us - no one knows all we've been through. No one goes around hoping to make bad decisions. We do the best we can with what we've learned. And then, fortunately, we keep learning.

[@chronicallybriana]

the whole getting mad at someone for leaving you on "read" is so assumptive and ridiculous-- a couple weeks back I had some guy slide into my DMs in IG... and his first message happens to be a voice message, which I found a little strange in itself. Within 8 hours he sends message #2, saying something along the lines of "clearly you're not interested so I'll refrain from bugging you" and I thought I would (politely) give him the courtesy of letting him know the absolute truth: that I hadn't even seen either of his messages yet, and that I don't like voice messages and will most likely ignore them, especially when they come from a stranger. He then accuses me of lying because he has "read" receipts and then continues by trying to guilt-trip me by revealing that the voice message was just to say how much he admired me. I responded with something like "wow we would clearly never work out anyways" and he said "how so? Can we just start over?" and I said: "No. Not only are you *already* way too needy and clearly wouldn't mesh well with my usually-procrastinated responses, but you make assumptions and judgments that literally make my skin crawl. Just because your phone says I "read" your message doesn't mean I digested the content-- there are 1,000 scenarios that could've played out where I accidentally clicked on the DM, none of which would involve me intentionally leaving you on read or lying to you. Not to mention, ya know, the bulk of your messages couldn't have even been read because they were in AUDIO FORM, YOU BUFFOON! I find nothing about those things attractive or even slightly tolerable, please fuck off kindly." Sorry /rantover I just had to go off about people making assumptions about read receipts. WHEN YOU ASSUME YOU MAKE AN ASS OUT OF U AND ME PEOPLE!

[@DaveNealComedian]

Ya it’s very self centered to think someone owes you their time. Sorry you had to deal with that, I will stop leaving you voicemails then. ;)

[@marilyngrutman7152]

OMG, that's hysterical. Hahaha ♡♡

[@jeannewomack7265]

Hahahaha.. Hysterical!

[@chronicallybriana]

@@DaveNealComedian 🤣🤣HEY you ask for those!

[@chronicallybriana]

@@jeannewomack7265 lol I'm glad my story entertained you

[@les2055]

Has anyone posed this question. Bachelor and Bachelorette are always boasting that this is the most dramatic season ever. Due diligence would dictate that producers would do some deep dive research on a contestant before they are accepted. So if that picture was easy to find, do you think it’s possible that Rachael’s picture was leaked by producers when it was clear she was a front runner? Certainly ticked the dramatic box!

[@caltheodore4201]

Makes sense don't trust the producers

[@juliabatista6214]

Dave I would like you to know I watch your channel every morning while I cook and eat breakfast. Great stuff here!

[@jenniemanning7062]

This would make their love much stronger, if he would just open his eyes!! It's obvious she isn't racist, if she came on a black bachelors season!! She is healed!! Teenagers do stupid things!!

[@lemonwolfe]

My fav rapper nf once said "I hear a whole Lotta talking on socials but I don't see nothing in public I kinda love it yeah" that's what I kept thinking about when u mentioned ppl just talking shit online

[@Ben-xl7fq]

Never ever heard this much protection for Chris or Rachael. Chris and her we’re both unmercifully thrown to the side....and cancelled. Sorry. I don’t like double standards

[@ibike825]

Just because people express their honest opinion in a respectful way it doesn’t mean he’s receiving “ hate “. We classify every criticism, opinion as “ hate “. I also believe he was not ready to propose and he probably felt pressure from the society to end the relationship and I believe he wasn’t into her after all but I don’t hate him at all. I also believe he needs to figure out what he wants and learn to trust as it’s obvious he’s got major commitment issues. It was also very harsh for him to say to Rachael that he can’t be responsible for her emotions, Rachael never expected him to be and she was so understanding whilst Matt was cold towards her.

[@jeannewomack7265]

YES!!!! Exactly.. we're upset but that doesn't mean hate.. A lot of anger actually. ;)

[@catherinevanommeren]

You always seem to make my day. 🤣. Gosh. How did we live without this type of content growing up in the 70’s in NY

[@kparker905]

Maybe the MOST interesting part of all of this is that Matt is having to reckon with this stuff at the same time as Raechel; and it seems like he never has before. It seems he's dealing with issues he's purposefully avoided, and it is VERY sad to watch him go through this. But this is the BIGGEST reason why you need more people of color behind the scenes of this show (or at least people who are versed on these issues), because they would've been able to SPOT that: Not only is this man not ready for marriage, but this could potentially be extremely harmful to him; a man who's NEVER had these conversations before about race. It reminds me of Tayshia versus Ivan. They continually keep putting these leads of color on-screen who've been surrounded by white people their entire lives, because the Bachelor believes that person will be more "palatable" to the white audience. It's putting those leads in a TERRIBLE position, because they are supposed to be representing something which they ARE ("a black person") but both Matt and Tayshia definitely are more resistant to conversations like these, than people like Nick Viall or Becca Kufrin. They are more "white-washed", per say, than the white leads. That's why they were chosen! They were chosen FOR that reason! But it's a very multi-faceted issue and I feel like I could go on for a while.

[@DaveNealComedian]

It’s a great point, both are reckoning with it and havnt had to/ especially on this large platform. Thanks for this great comment.

[@keishapuryear8180]

That us exactly what I've stated on every post! Casting biracial people will not solve centuries old problems in this country. If families and communities didn't influence young minds, racism would have died out long ago.

[@kparker905]

@Keisha Puryear I think biracial is fine, as long as they are WILLING to talk about race and aren't more uncomfortable with it than the white leads. That's a very low bar, in my opinion. But yeah, I feel like someone like Serena P. would be much more comfortable talking about race than Matt, and SHE'S biracial. They've just been choosing black leads (other than Rachel) who do their best to not even associate with being black.

[@VeronicaYvette]

Wish them both the best .... only time will tell. They seemed to be so good together. If they can get through this they will make it through anything else in life. They may find their way back to each other. Being black is something we have to carry where ever we go and it gets exhausting trying to demonstrate that we can fit in the so called white world. It has to be hard for Matt to feel free to be himself in an unknown situation. It was easy to let his guard down in a safe space but then they had to go back to the real world. He was hit with something he didn’t expect to have to deal with. I hope they make it in the long run.

[@Ben-xl7fq]

Dave! He was obviously rude and didn’t treat women very well. As you say, with grace. Why doesn’t he just apologize? You seem to want everyone else too! That’s whey ppl will move on. He needs to “own it” the way he treated her

[@AmaraEmme]

For people saying producers knew ab the pics and casted her for controversy: my guess is that those who vetted contestants were of the same knowledge level as Chris Harrison, where they straight up didn’t know the pics were problematic. Occam’s razor.

[@vintage_violet]

Which shows that they weren't ready to cast a black Bachelor, they just panicked and threw him on there. I mean in 2020 it should have dawned on someone to give the production staff some sensitivity training. That or it's a culture of willful ignorance. Just comes across that way. 🤷‍♀️

[@DaveNealComedian]

Great point. Really great point.

[@AmaraEmme]

@@DaveNealComedian thanks :)

[@camillegonsalves349]

Either they don't vet correctly or they don't care, both of which are problematic. HOWEVER, her not even thinking about her actions possibly hurting the man she went on the show to "catch" is the ONE problem for Matt that keeps him from moving forward with her. THAT'S her problem, not the show's.

[@NYCDemonDiva]

Always here for Uber stories lol

[@moyooyatogun2355]

I liked Rachel reachg out this way.Forgetting about herself and defendg Matt this way. I feel she really cares fr him more than he does fr her. If this whole scandal was the other way round, i dont she'll walk away like this. U know how women can be. She'd have stuck with him i think. Given the right support, i feel Rachel can really change. Love has caught her & made a disciple for change. love is very powerful.

[@melissacaudillo5653]

I love your content and discussion on the issues.

[@kenirvine9546]

Absolutely getting boring everyone said they are so very sorry and they were wrong and hate what has happened. And just want forgiveness. She was ignorant and knows it give it up already. Don’t torture her.

[@NT-bz5nh]

Yeah I think it’s time to let this go. She’s owned up to this. I’m ready to move on.

[@KaitAC]

Canadian lining in Ireland married to an Irish man, I’d be shocked if any Irish took offence to this because this doesn’t happen to them, their alcohol tolerance it too high lol

[@jackyc1402]

Hey Kalt Cervi, where in Ireland are you? I live in Co. Mayo. I grew up in London. 😆 their tolerance is too high

[@vanessacouper8122]

I really don't think you understand the fallout of slavery in USA.

[@theoneonlymichelle3.082]

In case you did t seen my comment yesterday. Congrats on 25k and Happy Anniversary to you and Tasha. I hope you all had a great dinner

[@TheJalebe73]

Love your stories Dave! 🥰

[@lordreyna6924]

I think Matt doesn’t want to comment on Rachel anymore. I think he’s still hurt by everything. He should be allowed to respond in his own time or not at all if he doesn’t want to. He needs to focus on himself right now.

[@AB-mx1de]

Agreed

[@cjpip7751]

Matt was a terrible choice to be the 1st black bachelor. While he is extremely attractive, he has very little charisma & seemed partially sedated throughout the entire process. Every other storyline bullying,shaming, new girls, Heather & Queen Victoria) was more interesting than him. HIs dead eye 40 second blank stare during AFR was sorta bizzare. Emmanuel Acho shoulda been the bachelor (I don't even know if he's single tho)

[@MaryTheresa1986]

I'd love to see Emmanuel as Bachelor. He would be a step up for sure.

[@karishmadesai1408]

I think everyone needs to just move on from Matt, Rachael and this whole dumpster fire of a season. I was unhappy with the way Matt handled his break-ups, but he obviously is dealing with trauma himself. And on top of it, he had the pressure of being the first Black bachelor. They're all human beings with real feelings. I know it's easy to forget that with reality TV. There's so much injustice in the real world that is going unaddressed. People should stop obsessing over a TV show and let everyone heal. (Not talking about Dave reporting on what's going on or the civil comment section here. Talking about the general hate comments I see on social media.)

[@roonsbirdbird2867]

Bach knew about Rachel's pictures before shooting. They HAD to of known; a new low or a twisted skew on their reconciliation idea. They showcased her hitting the DIRT for a reason.

[@sharononeil2780]

I am deeply saddened by all of the racial issues going on right now. PEOPLE!! Whether you believe it or not, GOD CREATED ALL PEOPLE EQUALLY. We are to love one another as He loves us ! It is so sad that we can’t all just grab hold of such a simple thing .There is good and bad in all people ! I choose to look for the good !

[@jeannewomack7265]

Preach!!! That's the natural way to be until politics draws in the people beLIEving a lie and dividing us.... We have the same enemy.. Wish we knew it! ;D

[@zofiafredro9550]

You are an advocate Dave for peace and harmony. Thank you. You still have hard time to say her last name. Hahah

[@ClarissaKoppel]

People should learn to see both sides of any story. There is literally NO NEED to choose sides on everything.

[@MaryTheresa1986]

I don't like Matt and I don't have to like Matt. Rachael can do better, and I think it would be in her best interest to put Matt/Bachelor/simpering to the hate mob behind her and move on. I wish her peace and healing.

[@islacaney9479]

Imagine a guy you fell in love with took pics 3 years ago liking multiple pics celebrating men having multiple wives and liking pics of prostitutes on social media. And after you fell in love with him, it's brought to your attention. He responds to you by apologizing and saying he didn't realize it would be offensive to you or other women. In spite of your deep feelings, you are disturbed by his insensitivity to women, lack of maturity and wisdom...and therefore decide to break up with this guy to process the situation. Is that not a reasonable response???

[@shircas01]

I saw that and I hope it's coming from a sincere place from Rachael. I wanna say it is and it's not her trying to prove to put in the work to try and get him back as I think she's still in love with him.

[@DaveNealComedian]

Hey Shirin, thanks for the comment, I think, my opinion respectfully, that we need to not question people's intentions even if it is just performative. Its like, I cant ever read her mind, but I will give her the benefit of the doubt because its a positive message. Now if she was asking for donations for sharing her positive message a la Taylor Nolan, I'd question her motives lol.

[@kristopherbrown8021]

yea i dont think this has nothing to do with trying to get him back. this is about being a decent human which was never the case with her.

[@shircas01]

@@DaveNealComedian for sure. I personally want to believe the intentions are pure. I have always liked Rachael from the beginning so no hate toward her at all.

[@annkoktan995]

Just take a look at Rachel and Matt's faces at the end of the show. Their eyes spoke a thousand words. There's an overwhelming mixture of hurt, confusion, sadness, despair, grief, anger and love. They need time to heal. Bless their hearts and be kind...❤

[@beatrice2236]

@@DaveNealComedian will be anxious ly waiting for your video regarding the fact that apparently Rachel's mother was the administrator of one of these hate Facebook groups Will is your thoughts on the fact that people who applauded a franchise for making Katie the bachelorette because she was edited to be the only person who was not participating and Outspoken about it when that was not true are the same people who are now bullying Matt and calling him a fake Christian? And that many of them identify as christians themselves

[@patriciasingh6406]

Matt james shouldn't.be the bachelor in.the first place..he's not ready for ANYTHING. He should be careful how he behaved with.last two young ladies.

[@ashleysolomon4326]

To me it really sounded like until the world saw her in a positive light he wouldn't see her positively either. I truly believe if you loved someone, really loved someone despite your hurt you would recognize her hurt also and you would work through it together. You also would be forgiving especially if your as rooted in religion as he claims to be. Where is the forgiveness from him? I hate that he says she has to go through this educational/bettering herself thing on her own. A good relationship recignizes some has to come from her but others can work a long side her and help her and there isn't anyone better to teach her than him. I really feel like his feelings weren't strong enough for her and now he is using all of this as his escape avenue where his actions of leaving her are more justified because he really just wasn't that into her to begin with... he was very cold on the after the final rose. He couldn't even just hug and end it when Emanuel asked for the final embrace. I just don't think he was that into her.

[@ngutumpuennutu2836]

Ashley Salomon Matt James is a liar. He broke up with Rachael Kirkconell not because of social pressure, but because of his repressed homosexuality. He spends his quarantine with Tyler, takes suggestive photos with him, which are those of two gay. Nothing wrong with his sexual orientation, but that he stops lying to himself and to the world. Last I heard, they moved in together in an apartment in New York. Even though he was heterosexual, breaking up with a woman he said he loved shows a blatant lack of intellectual virility. In this case, he would have done better to refuse the offer made to him to be the first Black Bachelor. It is true that the attraction of celebrity has been stronger. He will go down in history, not as the first Black Bachelor, but as a ballless weakling, unable to grow with and protect the woman he pretends to loves from social pressures.

[@allthingsgood4u]

Ashley Solomon, You just expressed everything I have been thinking.

[@msc4190]

I whole heartedly disagree with what you’re saying. Matt said himself on AFTR that he had to explain to Rachel why what she did was problematic. He also said that he does not want to be emotionally responsible for her and the backlash she’s getting. There’s no denying that him picking her was likely largely based on physical attraction alone, but for her to be the final pick he had to have thought there was some mutual alignment on important issues. After escaping the bubble of the show he found out that there was a huge disconnect in that regard, not even saying that Rachel is a racist but that she is ignorant to issues that Matt as a biracial man considers to be deal breakers. He signed up for the show to find a wife and be a husband, not to be someone’s social issues mentor. He shouldn’t have to justify his personhood to anyone and especially “his person.” Pretty much every adult on this planet has dated someone they thought was incredible and then changed their perspective after learning more about them, ESPECIALLY within the first few months of dating. This is not a new or foreign concept. She was his final pick on the Bachelor which actually means pretty much nothing when you consider the success rate of the franchise in general, so why is Matt suddenly the villain when his relationship doesn’t work out like virtually everyone before him?

[@ngutumpuennutu2836]

@@msc4190 You are the type of people Matt James blames for his breakup with Rachael Kirkconell. Which is in my eyes only a convenient pretext to explain his lack of personality or his lack of attraction for women. When Matt James talks about the social pressure behind his breakup, what is he talking about? The few black women who have expressed in social networks their anger, understandable in this climate of sexual competition, that he chose Rachael Kirkconell instead of Michele Young are not a group influential enough to achieve this breakup. This breakup is paradoxically a strategic victory for racism. This strategic aspect is invisible to the fools who wanted this breakup and to Matt James himself. A chinese strategist said that the best victory is that which turns an enemy into a friend. With her racist past, Rachael Kirkconell was objectively an enemy of black people. With her evolution into a militant anti-racist, an evolution whose attraction for Matt James is not foreign, she becomes a friend of the black people. But it is when she was ready to progress in this anti-racist journey that some send her racist past in the face. This intransigent attitude is rather a defeat in the face of racism. Because it enshrines racial, emotional, sexual, matrimonial and reproductive segregation between Blacks and Whites ... in the name of anti-racism.

[@msc4190]

@@ngutumpuennutu2836 you’re kind of over complicating things. I don’t care if Rachel and Matt are together or not, all I’m saying is that Matt is justified in not wanting to be with Rachel just like he’s justified in not wanting to be with anyone really. Him picking Rachel at the end does not mean he is required to be with her forever. It’s also not Matt’s responsibility to try and mend the relationship in order to end racism. I don’t think you actually read my response and if you did, your comprehension needs a little work. Otherwise you would’ve understood that the only thing I did was advocate for Matt to have free agency over his own love life, to defend HIS OWN WORDS, and his right to date who he pleases. The reality is that people fall in and out of love all the time and Matt’s own mother has told him that love is not the end all be all, so it’s really not surprising that everything that happened put too much pressure on their very new relationship.

[@nataliadacosta8392]

Rachel is a beautiful person! I truly believe she had no idea the damage she did! It’s over now and media need to stop talking about it. Let them have their space and reflect on their actions! As for the interview between Rachel L and Chris, I listened to it. Chris didn’t do anything wrong. He truly believed Rachel K was naive and didn’t do anything wrong. Because of this , it costed him his career. I am so sick of this business between white/black and vice versa. It’s getting out of control! How about being kind for a change and spread love and happiness! I pray that Matt does get back together with Rachel and Chris gets his job back! Don Lemon of CNN gas even spoken in defence to Rachel K apology.

[@padiddia]

Chris Harrison was set up. His comment about "was it ok in 2018 and not 2021" I believe he was projecting that BLM has made people more aware. Nothing he said other than allowing Rachael K to speak to her past when the time came, should have cost him his job. Nothing about Chris H is racist for heaven's sake! My biggest concern right now is how frail Rachael K has become. Enough! Matt is a non-feeling zombie and has mommy issues. She is better off moving on. His mother has poisoned him - talk about a bitter woman who projected her problems on her children! Yikes!

[@jeannewomack7265]

@@padiddia Politics all the way, and both Rachael and Matt are the sacrificial lambs, although Matt seemed to have caved by pressure/bribe/coercion?

[@DaveNealComedian]

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[@thatspookyfeeling]

As an Irish girl I can say, for me, it's all in how you mix the drinks. I rock and we weren't hung over! We didn't sleep much but still. Morticia

[@Ninja4hire110]

She did nothing wrong, she got destroyed by the public, again for doing nothing wrong. And instead of being a man and standing by her side, he left her and joined the mob kicking her while she's down.

[@sonimanderson5160]

Matt , we the black Queen love you , and we are here for you , stand your ground They don’t know what it is to be black in America .U know am a beautiful black Queen. Very sexy lady , I was standing in the bank minding business , this white man Call me a monkey and tell me to go back where am from , he don’t know nothing about me So all the people that are hating on my black Brother Matt please give him a break It’s hard to kiss or be intimate with someone like that .

[@perisndirangu1018]

Dave there is a “divorce dating” show ..caming soon .....host... bachelorette jojo and BF

[@DaveNealComedian]

Saw that! How interesting! Of all the divorced bachelors they chose the couple that’s together to host lol.

[@catrinahartz944]

Please do the video on Matt rubbing his mom's leg. Bc I didn't watch and my friend said it was bizarre.

[@dr.feelright434]

Its possible that Matt felt the pressure of Black people feeling betrayed by the first Black Bachelor choosing a white woman over a Black one and compounding that perceived indignity by the White woman being allegedly racist.

[@deloreskeys4545]

It all was done for money.The longer you on the show you get paid, big bucks.I don't think I'll be watching it NO MORE.Ive been watching for years.The Bachlor

[@albakurkey4525]

I think the one dislike was Mitch McConnell. Edit: I noticed those couple greys and I'm glad you addressed the situation 👍

[@DaveNealComedian]

Hahaha don’t gray shame me! ;)

[@albakurkey4525]

@@DaveNealComedian Never! Right there with ya! 😂😭😂😢😔

[@djosephine]

She did nothing wrong. It’s time to move on. It’s sad having to watch this girl apologizing, defending and running around trying to appease everyone due to a simple unknowing mistake she made in her college years. People who insist on continuing to drag her seriously need to grow up. I have forgiven her because I had a chance to see her character on the show, and came to my own conclusion she’s not a racist person. To people insisting on making her the bad person, Stop trying to scapegoat and project shame on her for issues you have within yourself. Matt James got unhealed issues. If he truly loved/s her, He should be the one defending and protecting her, yet it’s the other way around. The way he handled all the ladies on ATFR was appalling. All of this goes to show that an unhealed man will literally wreak havoc on everywoman who tries to love him.

[@caltheodore4201]

😒

[@epstewart2002]

Ah the voice of reason. I’m not criticizing or defending anyone. I don’t generally watch this show but I was lured in by my daughter who wanted to watch it. And then once you start.....well you know the rest. Here are my thoughts. 1) Rachael grew up in the South and was ignorant to what an antebellum party represented. Southern tradition is normalized in the South. And she is young. She recognizes the problem now, has apologized profusely and is working on herself with regard to racism. 2) Matt had a right to feel hurt and betrayed. He has the right to make personal decisions about his relationships. If it doesn’t feel right, it probably isn’t. 3) Matt isn’t and wasn’t ready for long term commitment. He was clearly upset when Serena P left. After that he had the difficult decision of picking the next best thing. 4) someone with Matt’s good looks and his age shouldn’t have to go on a reality show to find a wife. He’s either a committmentphobe or is too picky. 5) Matt may be feeling torn by wanting to forgive Rachael but not wanting to upset the black community by saying the door is still open. 6) This was an awful time to have to navigate such a sensitive situation. The political climate is too polarized. 7) They need to disappear and stop talking, stop giving interviews etc. It’s just making the whole situation worse.

[@caltheodore4201]

You are absolutely correct! You should put this in every comment section!

[@CC-mr5xq]

I feel so bad for Matt and the emotional labor he had to go through talking to Rachael. No wonder he didn’t accept her apology and refused to hug her.

[@jeannewomack7265]

What?? lol

[@milwaukeemotor5995]

When our significant other hurts or disappoints us (regardless of the nature of it), don't we communicate it to our partners? Let's be realistic, we don't shut down, run away, silent treatment, and cease communicating, no relationship will last if that's the case. (excluding physical abuse & infidelity & jeopardizing addictions)

[@newaulk]

Matt came in and said all the right things. But then over the course of the season, it all turned out to be performative and superficial. Matt had some awesome women in the season, but he dumped all of them. And the person whom he chose above all these great women - Michelle, Abigail, Katie - he dumps her the moment the going got rough. Add to that how he ended things with Abigail, Michelle and Kate - I would have beaten him up if he did that to my sister.

[@DrLee-gq9wd]

Mmmmmmi think he had maybe 4 actually AWESOME women, the rest we pretty average or just trash😅 i think he was trying to represent the best that he could but eventually felt alllllllllllll the pressure come crashing down on him at once. I thought it was kind of sad to watch the implosion

[@newaulk]

@@DrLee-gq9wd I have been watching the Bachelor for 3 seasons now. And the reason it has such a poor track record of the lead finding long term love, is that the lead is chosen not for their depth of character or for their readiness for a long term relationship. C'mon Peter Weber, Colton Underwood were not ready for long term relationships. Matt also was not chosen for the right reason. He was chosen because he is black and has a great PC social media presence. Matt is not ready for a relationship. He dumped all the quality girls, sometimes in the most douchebag kind of way. And then cut when the going got tough. That is what happens when things are done not for the right reasons. A person ready for a relationship would not cut and run at the first sight of trouble.

[@DrLee-gq9wd]

@@newaulk i can't say i disagree with that.😅 But with that said, where does the responsibility lie? I think some of it is on Matt (we're all adults here and we all make our own decisions that we have to ultimately own up to sooner or later), but i think there is a lot of responsibility on the franchise as well. I've been watching them for almost 5 years. Even with my "newbie" self, i feel like i keep waiting for them to catch up and make respectful decisions and changes. I feel like they just keep capitalizing off of people, and it shows in ugly UGLY ways. The only people that lose are the contestants or the main characters they don't into the spotlight. Iknow that's how "the business" works but to me, it's just not right. P.S. LOL🤣 I was about to ask you about Colton until i remembered what he was like on paradise right before his season. You right 😂👍🏾

[@newaulk]

@@DrLee-gq9wd I agree with you 100 %. The show has shown poor judgement all around. Emmanuel Acho just showed how low their quality is. And get this, Emmanuel Acho is on the record, admitting that he has turned down the chance to appear on the Bachelorette 3 times. Now you know which end of the pool the show is fishing.

[@newaulk]

@@DrLee-gq9wd Plus add to that, the fact that the producers and editors deemed the sit-down between Rachel and Michelle not final cut worthy but to Emmanuel Acho it was the best part of the ATFR and that he had called an 'audible' to make it happen in the first place, either cancel the show or fire everyone involved with the show.

[@elizabethvoigt9712]

Both sides should try to understand each other. Just because Rachel didn't grow up in an environment where she had great awareness of the black plight doesn't make her deserve the blame of everything ever done to blacks. What matters is if she cares to understand and learn how Matt feels. And, he should do the same for her. The old south affair she attended as a teen was about a girl getting to play dress up at a time in history that was very girlie. She wasn't thinking about the black perspective, but that doesn't make her bad. She just had blinders because she didn't grow up in that environment. Don't attach hate to her. Each person should try to understand how the other gained perspective of life, have a discussion and see if you have empathy and connection to each other's viewpoint. Then move forward. I wish everyone would stop hating and being angry!

[@laurend8140]

#teamhumanity should be a merch item!

[@rosannalee1317]

Matt ....think all people do things that wrong ....grow up people

[@mrsmacca126]

Tyler, watch your every word. You do t want to make Matt cry

[@sarzbeth]

Shes right. Im sorry mr james. That girl really loves him.

[@TheBakingDiva]

I don’t understand why Rachel is being called a racist when she went on The Bachelor fully aware that he was black or half black and is in love with him. Would a racist do that?

[@alfredsmith9249]

Matt doesn’t deserve a woman like Rachel

[@patriciawatts2779]

I look at this way the past is the past. If Matt fell in love with Rachel. So he should not worry about what people say .so love means more to you then you should be with Rachel just take it one day at a time .you should not break up with each other .Matt if I feel in love with someone with the past it don't mean nothing to me love means move then anything to me.

[@cwhiteco]

I just think Matt could have broken up with her but been a bit more gracious and compassionate. He came across cold and callous. Thus the backlash. He like froze. It wasnt good look for him. He is not a great communicator. Not his strength. Hurt his perception.

[@tamfx2138]

You can’t win or respond to everything in social media. Someone should advise her.

[@wa2459]

I don't think Matt took going on the show to find a wife at all. He has mama issues and and badly needs therapy before he even thinks about getting into a relationship. period

[@buddyc1102]

I have no Respect for Matt! The Damage Is Done!

[@Chey60]

its because Bachelor has turned political. it never used to be..

[@djcincin8342]

No one would be talking about it if the social media stopped posting vids, tweets, articles, etc... but of course all the controversy is a money maker whether positive or negative ....