Rachel Maddow on the way Democracy can be killed

Rachel Maddow points out that damage to the rule of law is not a far off, abstract idea, it is already actively happening.
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[@lenninyberg4064]

Democracy is work. Get engaged get people registered get them to the polls. It’s important so we don’t lose it!

[@arturbello4213]

What country are you referring to? The USA is a Constitutional Republic and has NEVER been a Democracy. Learn USA history.

[@lenninyberg4064]

@@arturbello4213 The USA is a representative democracy yes my little friend. Although I’m sure someone told that, and I’m sure you believe it to be true, ours is a hybrid. The two are not mutually exclusive.

[@dsavereide]

We are a republic, not a monarchy or a theocracy or an autocracy. What kind if Republic? Glad you asked. A Representative Democracy because we don’t vote for on the laws, but the representatives that enact our laws.

[@CerebralPugilist]

​@@arturbello4213Weak 🤣

[@jettaluciano4157]

…… and it is the exact type of person like those who parrot the b*** s*** ignorant answers like “Constitutional Republic” every time they hear the word ‘democracy’ to attempt to show how intelligent they are…. Perhaps THEY should actually learn history (not just “US history) to really understand how our government works, how the founding fathers chose to use the words used in the Constitution, and why we are desperately trying to KEEP our form of government, which is the most successful and longest lasting of its type in history. In order to do so, VOTE BLUE UP/DOWN TICKET TO SAVE IT and TO KEEP THE FASCIST “RED TIES” and the WHOLE MAGAt PARTY from DESTROYING IT and US! Watch the modern day “brown shirts” I.e., “RED TIES” who are supposed to be representing all in Congress, in New York (should they not be working in Washington DC?) attempting to harass and threaten witnesses, jury, and court staff and families, etc.! It is disgraceful, unethical and should be illegal! They should be charged for being Congressional Representatives threatening citizens in a court of law doing their duty and following the RULE OF LAW!

[@hisomebodytrackingmuch1309]

It can be wounded, possibly mortally, when the head Justice refuses to hold the SCOTUS to the same laws & morals as the rest of the Judicial

[@alrodriguez3857]

Like corrupt Hillary corrupt Joe biden and son .like Obama's justice department chief Eric holder . Who defied Congress orders to appear and never was indicted. Or joe Biden when the supreme Court said that he did not have the power to forgive student loans but he did it anyways

[@jackwells8107]

Exactly - you have SCOTUS justices blatantly perjuring themselves, you have others showing what appears to be obvious corruption. Then you have people like Mitch McConnell, making a fortune from his wife's company, and the entire congress performing suspiciously high in stock trades, with enough evidence that someone like Martha Stewart would be investigated and sent to prison for the same thing.

[@condoruite]

If there's genuine suspected cheating....well, you have no choice but to petition and protest against the "results." Once you find that you can't question an election, then you lose the expectation that we are governed by a democracy.

[@arcraider937]

Please name the exact federal statutes the SCOTUS has violated 😂

[@rustyoak8860]

how about when the POTUS uses social media to suppress free speech?

[@davidmettler9580]

Right and Cannon should be removed for not doing her job.

[@terrencethompson2595]

Facts.

[@peterkerr4019]

so should most of the supreme court.

[@michellejean11]

Cannon, Alito, Thomas, trump are all reasons why immunity should be ended or strictly defined to only be applied to lawful pursuit of their offices.

[@karltodd7313]

Yep shes exactly 💯 correct

[@seanschisler4287]

Ya she moo really moo good today.

[@cssatkins77]

Perfect explanation!!

[@lindascott3973]

​@@seanschisler4287tell us you can't follow an argument without telling us you can't follow an argument.😂

[@darrellr.bacon4677]

I AGREE WITH RACHEL 1000%. ONE OF THE WORST THINGS ABOUT DEALING WITH FINANCIAL HARDSHIP IS SEEING CABLE TV GO AWAY 7 or 8 YEARS AGO AND MISS OUT ON INTELLIGENT CONVERSATIONS LIKE THOSE FROM HER. TONS OF COOLER STUFF TOO, OF COURSE, BUT STILL, SOMETHING OTHER THAN DAILY TV FLUFF.

[@DustyNickelz]

We just learned today Snopes fact checked the allegations that Ashely Biden made against her father in her Diary are real.

[@michaeldiogenesbest6127]

Fascism, Children, is just a vote away, it's just a vote away.....

[@reason6835]

Can’t wait.

[@bubbawilliams]

​@@reason6835can't wait for fascism?

[@Theleftisdesperate]

yep vote red

[@reason6835]

@@bubbawilliams: Yep. Retribution.

[@justinoperez5123]

We all know democrats cheat, they used to be the majority but no more so they cheat.

[@MelindaRodriguez-cs1kn]

@RachelMaddow, you are a voice of reason in a world of chaos. I literally said this exact thing to someone once. We don’t always agree on who the egregious ones are. But the concepts you speak of are comforting to hear from someone whose voice is actually heard.

[@user-ld7qf1up1s]

Voice of reason. Really. Only when it goes her way. She is paid to say what she says. She’s mostly ridiculous

[@donanderson2264]

@@user-ld7qf1up1s We have heard Tucker, who was deemed a liability, and we hear Hankypee, and (Jesse Waters?) (Haven’t seen him lately). Yeah…. No thanks.

[@Anne_40]

Break the law and go to jail

[@PCMenten]

I hope Rachel will consider a role in public policy. She is articulate, intelligent and her heart is in the right place.

[@reason6835]

If her heart were truly in the right place, she would do it. She doesn’t want to give up millions per year working for MSNBC.

[@boydmaddocks838]

She’s far too honest for politics

[@liamog03]

Rachel will not get involved in public policy. She makes 30 million a year to keep you living in loo llo land.

[@seanschisler4287]

Madcow vs Tucker. Tucker has a bigger base and the madcow can't handle that.

[@mr.mikemach1183]

LOL y’all are sooooo stupid.

[@americaofthenorth655]

America is broken

[@factchecker-cb2gy]

Always have been in one way or another.

[@stevenmullins7528]

Yes america may be damaged but broken?? Not quite yet. So far many are just flapping their jaws. If it comes to pass it will come reluctantly, and with a great cost. Let's not let this happen. Keep democracy alive. Get out and vote democratic.

[@jasonford9705]

You don’t think it was broken when we forced native Americans off there land? When white people could own black people? When Japanese Americans were forced into concentration camps?

[@seanschisler4287]

Only time it's not broken is when world wars pop up and we get pulled into them.

[@kathybutterfield]

We can mend it. ❤

[@dannyorsello8668]

When facsism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a bible…..Sinclair Lewis 😢

[@thomasmcginnis3783]

_It can't happen here_ published in the 30s as fascism was on the rise in Europe. *Terribly* prescient book, with regard to 30s Europe and present-day US.

[@SmokinLoon5150]

@@thomasmcginnis3783Funny thing is the package of modern day totalitarianism is being wrapped up in "I'm from the government and I'm here to help" package. That is purely Democrat, not Republican. Centralizing power is rule #1 and that is what the Democrats are doing. The Republicans are exactly the opposite: follow the Constitution and let the States decide.

[@jerseyjoyride1316]

...or selling a Bible..and sneakers and NFTs and whatever else he can make a nickel off of.

[@gplus1000]

@@jerseyjoyride1316 Don't forget the diapers.

[@user-vd2vk1hy4z]

I believe that the American people will not let democracy die.

[@marksallows113]

The problem is that the average voter does not have the power as long as the judiciary is corrupt starting with Scotus. Corruption within the Supreme Court has never been so transparent, and yet they remain unaccountable

[@nicolecopland461]

The American people elected an abhorrent bully knowing he would corrupt SCOTUS and damage our democracy. (iT's A rEpUbLiC.)

[@cyndysota]

I also believe true patriotic Americans will not allow this to happen. I’m from the Nixon Watergate trials & we stood up against the Nam War & Nixon’s crimes. Traitor Trump is worse & the sensible people who voted him out last time during COVID will be out again even stronger to vote this traitor out again!! God Bless America against the tyrants trying to ruin her! 🇺🇸💪🏽⚖️🙏

[@thomasmcginnis3783]

Washington state legislators have voted to oppose democracy in the last 10 days. No lie.

[@RaionNoHitorimono]

Sadly we have a portion of our population that will willingly vote for a fascist this upcoming election.

[@ronarmenta881]

Vote blue for America

[@jakebbone6298]

😂😂🙈

[@billr.2210]

Is a vote for RFK Jr good?

[@jim007]

​@@billr.2210 No

[@cree71cjm]

@@jakebbone6298 What;s so funny?...the fact that you've lost EVERY election since 2016? Because i think that's HILARIOUS!!!!

[@margaretcameron1275]

Yeah Rachel!!🎉

[@warrenhilliard1339]

So True

[@christianeaster2776]

Many became convinced democracy was dying when Donnie won in 2016. Until he loses in 2024, we won't get rid of this feeling until we get rid of the electoral college.

[@williamkissane4261]

Thanks for your Constitutional expertise.

[@reason6835]

Says everyone who doesn’t understand why we do it that way.

[@davidsommerfeldt9588]

You would like that, wouldn’t you? A direct democracy. To me, there’s nothing scarier!! A nation run by the mob, no protection for a minority voice !!!!!

Absolutely moronic take.

[@johanvanderpants9363]

So trump is at fault for the "death of democracy" because he won without a bunch of election laws being changed? Direct democracy could work if every american citizen was forced to show up with ID and place a vote. But since that will never happen and democrats are against people needing to provide ID to vote, you get what you get.

[@valeriesanders8016]

I love you Ms. Maddow. Always so clear, straight, honest, sensible and realistic.

[@tamparocks]

You are so blind 🐑

[@paulfroese1469]

Thank you Rachel. You keep me sane in these crazy times we often see these days. ❤

[@tamparocks]

If you think that is same you are deeply disturbed 🐑

[@Yannis1a]

Is funny to me that Trump supporters say he is being treated unfairly when he is treated better than others would be in his situation They don’t want him to be treated fairly they want him to be pardoned, the problem with this is that he had the chance he could have done a Nixon and let Pence pardon him and retire, but he is too proud for that so he is facing the consequences

[@jackwells8107]

Don't forget that he launched investigations of Hillary and Biden. They're just upset that he wasn't smart enough to cover up his crimes better.

[@kyleoppenheim8711]

​@@Terrabill-md8tf name another criminal defendant allowed to violate a routine gag order 10x without prison/jail time. When someone had never been held accountable, accountability feels like persecution

[@Yannis1a]

@@Terrabill-md8tf Yeah, I know the idea is crazy, that’s why it didn’t happened, his ego wouldn’t allow it so now he has to face the consequences, no matter how much his supporters want him to be pardon he had the chance and didn’t take it, so it’s his fault

[@tjmcqueen7270]

That is nore evidence of their blatant stupidity! These people are ignorant af. Truth, evidence, science, etc. will never matter to Trumpets because they're not smart enough to figure it out. They believe what Trump, Fix, OAN, Newsmax, etc, tell them to believe! I pity them, and I'm embarrassed for them. I can't imagine being so ignorant and/or gullible, stupid, whatever their problems are.

[@davidcouture7403]

So why did biden get away with stealing classified documents

[@tamaradiana2431]

I ❤ Rachel Maddow!

[@brianmanuel1202]

Ur a moffie too?

[@reghunt2487]

we have 2 problems. ppl who want a dictatorship, and ppl who just don't care. 2016 happened because of these 2 groups.

[@kesart8378]

Brilliantly put by Rachel Maddow.

[@alrodriguez3857]

Nope

[@CMcKay-ip2nc]

​@@alrodriguez3857 go back to school and learn how governments and laws work. Instead of highlighting the fact you know nothing of the topic you are commenting on.

[@alrodriguez3857]

@@CMcKay-ip2nc fool

[@alrodriguez3857]

@@CMcKay-ip2nc fool

[@claytongetz6362]

​@@alrodriguez3857Back to your 🍊Kool- Aid!

[@markwhisler3501]

What if agreeing to abide by the results were a requirement to run for office?

[@user-bv8dy2pr5n]

28 th amendment

[@nrselady4042]

​@@user-bv8dy2pr5nPlease explain what the equal rights amendment has to do with accepting the results of an election?

[@reason6835]

What if the voters just got to decide who they want?

[@cree71cjm]

@@nrselady4042 Always the trumper that demands an explanation. You wouldn't need the explanation if you just had an education.

[@nrselady4042]

@@cree71cjm Firstly I've been a democrat since Regan's first term. Secondly my post was directed towards a person who was using the 28th amendment (the ERA amendment) as an answer to requiring candidates to accept defeat in an election, so I asked the person what that had to do with what the OP of this thread's post. Now my question to you is what does that have to do with my level of education? If anything your response shows your lack of basic comprehension, reading and logic skills. Just FYI I took AP English exams and passed them in 1977, so I wouldn't have to take English 101 in college.

[@clydehinman7810]

There is always us Rachel. I am a Democrat who is a born again Christian. I may not agree with your lifestyle but I wont stop believing in your LGBTQ group having a voice as a countrymen. I won't let anyone get bullied. I am from a native american tribe that has the most veterans per capita than any race in America. I won't let their sacrifice be insulted by having trump who attacked his own country be allowed anywhere near that capitol ever again. My dead veteran relatives are begging us to be strong. My people lost our land but have come to adapt to our huge family of different races over time. There is no way we will lose our land again. Especially to a traitor who carries a bible falsely.

[@waynegouin939]

Thank You Clyde🗽🗽🗽

[@aviles1117]

💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

[@arriuscalpurniuspiso]

Trump refuses to memorize a single quote from the Bible because he actually hates the Bible and all books except the ones he slapped his name on. He didn't write any of his own books. Not one.

[@yaimavol]

Drama Queen post. Trump never attacked his country. J6 was a mostly peaceful protest with a few bad actors, and the Capitol cops actually opened the doors for them and let them in, which tells you they did not see the protestors as a threat. Democrats have played you like a piano.

[@user-sd8zq2kt2x]

Please do you're ancestors a favor please do us all the favor if ever I believed votes could change anything it's with trump we gotta keep him out

[@DeliaEDuron]

You are a beautiful lady....

[@billr.2210]

You like?

[@gwendolynboston6034]

TOTALLY AGREE

[@Kem-gu6or]

It's also weakened when we don't enforce the laws that should be equal to all...and let guy's like Trump get away with breaking them over and over again.

[@CMcKay-ip2nc]

The judges not following the laws and are letting him off should be up on charges with tRump. Facing prison time

[@claytongetz6362]

🎯🎯🎯💥

[@tobytodd8542]

The judge in Trump's hush money case is showing and giving trump special treatment eneyone else would be in jail I Saw a video a couple of days ago about a woman speaking in a Court room and at the end of the speach she started threatening people and they judge had her locked up trump does the same thing that she done and nothing happens but a fine and his followers have to pay it for him

[@PSTINSON0713]

Thank goodness we have you Rachel Your simply the best reporter ever. ❤

[@kathybutterfield]

Thank you. Rachael.

[@rgregg6]

Vote in November

[@ibeetellingya5683]

Voting is essential but is not enough to save our democracy. Volunteer any way you can with whatever time resources and inclination you have to save our Republic ,our democracy, our values.

[@ricktheruler4170]

No it goes away when we stop voting out of spite and for what’s right for America VOTE BLUE

[@cleodumas2581]

Yeah, that’s what we did last time. Are you aware of where you’re at now?

[@billr.2210]

If RFK was blue, I would vote blue. My vote is with RFK Jr.

[@SweetLotusDreams]

@@billr.2210 You may as well vote for Trump.

[@SweetLotusDreams]

@@cleodumas2581much better off than you would have been under Trump. Biden has done a lot of good work.

[@TruFight1]

What are you talking about? Trump has already had the job. We were 1000x better when he was in charge.

[@ugottabekiddingme6983]

There's only ONE solution - VOTE BLUE. 🗳️ ☑️ 🇺🇲

[@GANGSTER-TRUMP2024]

Oh really, if we vote Blue, we need to expect: More ILLEGAL Aliens invading America, high gas, diesel, home Oil & food prices! Also, higher rates for Bank & car loans etc...

[@SmokinLoon5150]

Nope. That will lead to an empowered federal government and that is precisely how totalitarianism works. We have divisions of government for a reason. Follow the Constitution, not a political party.

[@thesaintst1851]

My fave MSNBC journalist…

[@michaeluprichard]

Democracy was sold. Vending machine politics is the norm. Companies feed in the money to the candidates they think will give them the best outcome. Policy is bought.

[@denkerdunsmuir3370]

SCOTUS, under Chief Justice John Roberts, did this with the Citizens' United ruling, in 2011, I believe.

[@jackwaycombe]

Companies and other countries. Lobbying is just a polite name for bribery.

[@ritamccune5289]

It's the best we've got. At least it an expectation.

[@doddagopi4933]

Give this lady a NOBEL PRIZE. She deserves this. I whole heartedly believe that she must be the next PRESIDENT OF USA. Thank God for creating this kind of women.

[@annetteclark8854]

We need her more to keep doing what she is doing, because it is crucial to stay on top of saving and maintaining our democracy. She does deserve a Nobel Prize for sure. Having read her book, Prequel, I highly recommend it to anyone interested in keeping our democracy. It is frightening how close we have come to losing it in the past and to recognize how close we seem to be now. Please vote to save our democracy!

[@tamparocks]

Why she's behind the Criminals on the Left😅

[@johncurtis3910]

Democracy is not a spectator sport.

[@Waverlyduli]

👍 Here, here.

[@annewhelan2437]

Rachael is spot on, I hope Americans wake up! 💙💙💙💙💙

[@docmupsy]

Very hard to bring it back. Not in our lifetimes if it is lost.

[@MelindaRodriguez-cs1kn]

The judicial system could be considered our last line of defense. If the judicial system becomes corrupted, then god help us.

[@geogias]

Americans can do the world honor by dismissing trump once and for and all. Trump is like a bad dream you want to forget.

[@claytongetz6362]

🎯🎯🎯💥

[@Dumarest42]

Sounds like it should be illegal to do that.

[@ChrisGeorge-nz6rg]

Thank you for telling us

[@user-zc7ds8gx7n]

It is not "we". It is sadly the "other".

[@trumphater1789]

Someone tell Trump supporters...

[@marthalucas1221]

Exactly 🇺🇸 Please save our country- this election is not about red or blue- it is about our rule of law and (small d democracy: our republic) vs fascism💪😊

[@yaimavol]

Take a trip to San Fransisco and tell me Democrats believe in the rule of law. They have literally legalized theft.

[@SmokinLoon5150]

The rule of law is precisely what this election is about and saving our REPUBLIC. A democracy is not what we want, the minority is always protected from the majority. The Bill of Rights applies to all and at all times. In a democracy, a bill of rights is what they say it is. Not good.

[@stacyswoope7110]

Well said

[@donaldsaucier1603]

She Rules with Intelligent Responses that I Totally Agree Upon … Beau Saucier of Laguna Beach 😎👍👍😎

[@lisajahn6839]

We need to expect better, demand better, and do better!

[@busabrye]

Democracy also goes away when the justice department doesn’t go after all the corrupt politicians we have

[@chris424cm]

A democracy implies equality. There has never been equality in this country. You can't lose something you've never had.

[@thenecessaryevil2634]

It also dies when those who are suppose to uphold the law refuse to do so.

[@ralphplummer1239]

You go, girl.❤

[@margaretnicol3423]

Do you think Pootout would have gone home if he'd lost the election? No? Neither would Trumpery!

[@morisn]

Rachel is one of the brightest people I know. Her rationale and way she analyses and delivers commentary is a testament of her intelligence.

[@Wompwomp-jp9gs]

Today’s biggest question for one is. Why was mike Johnson, the speaker of the house present at trumps trial ? What was behind this move.

[@user-bv8dy2pr5n]

The great third of independents will cry out, I had no other choice. Just like Kip Kinkel said when he was stopped

[@user-vg7ue8jf7r]

ABSOLUTELY...

[@edoherty9097]

It doesn't happen by proclamation, its done via a thousand cuts.

[@jackwaycombe]

A thousand cuts that end in a proclamation...

[@7750DAVID]

Trump Russian Republican Party..Reject

[@librulcunspirisy]

Thanks 👍

[@Constant_Distant_Instant]

Absolutely right ! Very very good points!

[@GlennDuke-yc5ky]

Thank you for the good reminder!

[@-randychasechase2660]

Won't ever vote for a higher off Republican ever again. The Trust is forever gone for my lifetime

[@user-bn2uw4bx9p]

Well said 😺

[@jacquelinejackson4067]

Well Said!!

[@michaeldominici610]

Astute and poignant. Thank you for caring enough to patiently break down the threat to Democracy.

[@susanparker9877]

Powerful words Rachel.

[@shannonlohr1565]

Well said! 😮

[@user-vd2vk1hy4z]

You are absolutely correct

[@kathyd9324]

Be the best part of History. Vote 🔵 Blue To save democracy.

[@johnquick7576]

Thanks for reaffirming the truth Rachael

[@pomnichowski]

Thanks for that 🖐🏼

[@eloiseobrien2761]

Scary 😮

[@user-mu6qh4wh1l]

You are a true talent, don't ever stop creating.

[@rona4444]

Love to listen to this lady.

[@pudgieayer9052]

She's talking about Donald Trump...

[@LaurieValdez-zk3dy]

I don't know how this will be fixed

[@angelcortes8596]

You are correct !

[@jaygibson5057]

Perjury is a crime Destroying evidence is a crime

[@truthfinder2998]

Awesome Rachel

[@AuvilleNolan]

Before DJT came along democracy wasn't wounded or in trouble but recently everyone wants to be as he is

[@dtylice]

Treat 45 like a Rosenberg.

[@CQ-369]

You tell 'em Rachel!!

[@ChicagoMadisonWesternRR]

I’m honestly expecting a dumber version of Palpatine’s speech of how the United States will turn into the first ever galactic empire to thunderous applause from the MAGA crowd win or lose.

[@Ron-vl9xu]

Sage thoughts.

[@user-bz4gx2ht7g]

Thank you. It’s refreshing to have an intelligent, calm and rational post on the election.

[@NoName-qs6ei]

Constitutional Republic

[@TakeBackOurCountry-RFKJ24]

This is why we need KENNEDY

[@lindamullins1446]

Thanks for that statement Of the cold hard truth We have to wake up it's not a game.

[@daveweldon5481]

Only takes 1 election to push it over the edge

[@user-bx8ro5df8h]

Vote Biden 2024💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙

[@AmericanItalian1]

This dude allways cracks me up..

[@user-yt6er4yd3k]

O my God if trump becomes president this woman won’t be able to sleep for a month 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@robertbolton9450]

Republican democracy

[@andyo5220]

American democracy is wounded. The question is whether it is serious or critical, because the train wreck heading for November may leave it gravely injured.

[@user-wz8xq6xy2i]

That’s a dumb phrase to use… so now Don Dump will say “I am immortal”

[@williamturnbo9619]

Maddo We Are Not A Democracy , but a Republic.

[@raymonddipasquale5297]

The rule of law can become the law of rule if power is not in the hands of the people by ballot.

[@user-oe4iu4xs2k]

House and car prices up by double digits, and a state department filled with warmongering clowns, hellbent on escalating foreign conflicts.

[@alexanderevanska4274]

It seems, law in America does not exist especially in the SCOTUS and you have money.