RACING from London to Edinburgh | TRAIN (LNER) vs PLANE (Easyjet)

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We raced from London to Edinburgh in our latest train vs plane battle! Liam took an LNER train from Kings Cross while Nicky flew with Easyjet from London Luton Airport.
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Plane:
Easyjet ticket - £144
Thameslink - £28
Edinburgh tram: £6.50
Total: £178:50
Train:
LNER: £84
Tube: £2.50
Total: £86.50
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[@Dog.eatdog]

Guys, running to get on the tube faster isn't going to make your plane/train depart any earlier than planned. Take it EASY!

[@Xxxypher]

But that wouldn't make much of an exciting start to the video.

[@bubbledoubletrouble]

Getting on the tube earlier means getting to the airport earlier means more time to get past security. There wasn’t a queue this time, but there could have been.

[@Dog.eatdog]

@@bubbledoubletrouble They were racing each other, not because they were late for takeoff/security. The whole reason was to make it more "dramatic".

[@lewiskingtheflat]

@@Dog.eatdog true but also, train every 30 minutes from 7am. Every 30 minutes. 6 flights per day, 2 early, 2 afternoon, 2 evening. There's a train leaving when you need. If you do miss your train, you can always get the next one.

[@fdhlmr]

There is non-0 percent posibility that the tube/metro/subway/commuter rail that you'll use will be free of trouble/late/delay etc. As a person who got on the train 5 minutes before it departs, I can feel them.

[@teammeteamus.8315]

The train journey from London to Edinburgh goes along some of the most beautiful scenery. The Northumberland coastline is a fave of mine, especially when going through Berwick Upon Tweed. I’ll always take the train just for that reason.

[@sunburn1013]

Berwick on Tweed is just stunning. I like to play Arvo Part’s Trisagion as I pass through. It’s the perfect musical accompaniment.

[@lorna_alice]

As a resident I still enjoy coming home along by Spittal and over the bridge. Or heading North up over the border and the Berwickshire coastline where its endless sea. I realise how lucky I am to live in such a nice place despite how boring it can be sometimes.

[@shaddersshadwell4941]

I moved from London to Berwick 5 years ago and can confirm the coastline is beautiful. Gets even better as you cross the Scottish border, hugging the cliffs

[@robh8814]

As already said, North of Newcastle the Scenery is amazing. The Coastal run at Sunrise has to be experienced. Berwick Upon Tweed is lovely. Not that it would have made a difference but Liam too the long way upto the Castle from the Station. Your Mate took the quick way up. Edinburgh is amazing. If u have never been then get yourself up there..

[@TimeTraveller2054]

You should try the West Coast Main Line from Euston some day to pass through the Lake District and West Lothian.

[@george.ogilvie]

Running at the start of the video and getting to the airport early must’ve made a massive difference, because as we all know, you can board the plane as soon as you get to the airport, and the plane departs as soon as you’re on it.

[@MrOasis316]

It was more to do with getting the quickest train routes

[@nataliajimenez1870]

He was afraid of busy security queues and losing his flight due to them

[@Dominiccccccc826]

Wth

[@floydvl9999]

I've travelled between London and Edinburgh numerous times and would always go with the train for various reasons. 1. No extra costs for luggage 2. Don't have to worry about security line times 3. Trains are very frequent, almost every half an hour. 4. Often train is much cheaper and more comfortable

[@enthusiastisch1922]

Plane is cheaper though, it's only like 22 pounds one way whilst I only found 19.90 on train one way and that's with my disabled rail card, also I have a sunflower lanyard, so I can skip security queues and getting through is easy if you plan ahead with what's in your pockets.

[@Nukeguy909]

@@enthusiastisch1922 not if you have bags, that's at least an extra £15 each way just for a normal cabin suitcase. Plus you have to factor in the cost of getting to/from the airports which is about £10 to Luton by train/bus and £6 from Edinburgh airport on the tram. Usually with a railcard the train ends up cheaper if you book a few weeks in advance, even with £20 plane tickets

[@grassytramtracks]

​​@@enthusiastisch1922 but then you need to factor in the cost of the train to the airport, which can very easily make that a false economy, especially considering that cheap fares are more consistently available for trains than for planes, and fares are more easy to predict if you know what to look out for and when

[@EILEENZ0122]

That is very elaborate👍 Plus England rail ticket now has a discount😮

[@Mikiwan]

For a 40min difference and because I am a proud trainliner, I feel like it is still better to opt for the train. Greener, amazing view, more relaxed than having to deal with all the airport troubles. Think about the planet and your mental health! #Trainforthewin

[@bubba842]

And alot cheaper.

[@LemoncloudGT]

If you took the plane, you would have to go through security and take out electronics XD

[@steventate4687]

Depending on the train the plane can be greener

[@steventate4687]

The plane also has a much nicer view in my opinion

[@LemoncloudGT]

@@steventate4687 there’s alco now LUMO which is cheaper to get between London and Edinburgh I think their cheapest tickets start at like £30 (which are taking on the airlines that do that route)

[@noefillon1749]

True British people haha. "It's 27 degrees ! I'm sweating"

[@Zuuu40]

Please remember to make CC ( closed caption) available to those of us that are hearing impaired. Lately several of your videos have not had it enabled. I am unable to listen to your terrific videos without CC. Thank you in advance for doing so.

[@generalgrievous5615]

Skill issue

[@user-cc32vcg811]

@@generalgrievous5615 Star wars fans trying to pull any girls:

[@grassytramtracks]

​@@generalgrievous5615 insulting people's disabilities, what an edge lord. Clap clap.

[@stup4501]

@@grassytramtracks Yep, what a bellend

[@happysecret5273]

@@generalgrievous5615 no lightsaber?

[@PokhrajRoy.]

Racing in a Heatwave? I don’t want to sound like I’m enjoying this but kudos to you braving the unprecedented heat for our entertainment.

[@sandersson2813]

30c isn't remotely unprecedented.

[@idaluisonyeohwaiting]

@@sandersson2813 it is in the UK. Acclimatisation and the lack of air conditioning in the UK means that we melt in heat exceeding 25°. Please educate yourself.

[@sandersson2813]

@@idaluisonyeohwaiting Do you know what unprecedented means? It means it hasn't happened before and 30c is FREQUENT.

[@idaluisonyeohwaiting]

@@sandersson2813 30c is not normal in the UK, it is clearly unprecedented. Up until this year, the hottest temp recorded in the UK was *only* 38°C. so… clearly 30c is unprecedented. You know what, to help you educate yourself, would you like me to send you some links to studies, and figures on mean temperature in the UK? Let me know xx

[@sandersson2813]

@@idaluisonyeohwaiting I'll ask you again, what does unprecedented mean? It means not known to or never happened before. We have had hundreds if not thousands of days with 30c+ weather . 30c by scientific definition in 2022 is NOT an unprecedented event when it has happened before. Yes, it isn't an everyday occurence, but it has happened and does happen every year pretty much, which means it isn't unprecedented given that the precedent was set the first time 30c was recorded.

[@lorijohnston4311]

I love these races! Congrats, Nicky, on your win but Liam had the more beautiful scenery. I've done the train journey from London to Edinburgh and it's stunning.

[@chloethea25]

I love the banter between you 2. Liam, Nicky, you both are my favs on The Points Guy! I nearly died laughing with how chill Nicky was waiting for Liam.

[@ckidder]

this was super fun to watch, well produced and very enjoyable...more of these please!

[@AlastairjCarruthers]

I recently did a same-day round trip from Edinburgh to London, flying early in the morning to Luton and getting the train back in the evening (this just happened to be the cheapest combination that day). I've always preferred the train for this and most other domestic routes, because although it takes longer, it's more comfortable and not so broken up. It was a close run this time though - on a long, rushed, tiring day, it does get frustrating sitting on a single train for so long, while on this occasion the airport was no hassle - the queues were short and the terminal quiet, so it was quite relaxing. I think in future I'll look at both options and just take whichever is cheapest and most conveniently timed.

[@Emthe30something]

LOVE that you were together for the first leg! I laughed so much.

[@jj-if6it]

I LOVED Edinburgh, one of my favourite cities in the world. It was so sunny and warm I got sunburnt there! Can't wait to visit again one day

[@well-blazeredman6187]

Fun and nicely edited. Aspire lounges in the UK seem to be pretty reliable.

[@24hourschallengechannel67]

Well maybe, I work in a aspire lounge in the UK, in summer you have about 80-90% chance of getting turned away if he tried with his priority pass as we're that full with other bookings and contracts with airlines. You may pay so much for a pass but you can get turned away loads, every airport is different.

[@miketrueman5473]

I enjoy these race videos so looking forward to seeing more of them in the future

[@TarrelScot]

Good comparison, but I might have been tempted to go LCY-EDI with BA (budget permitting). It is a nice train journey though, especially if you go 1st Class.

[@tdlovestrains]

I did this last week against a mate. I used lumo and not lner and it was a lot quicker but both ways are very quick.

[@donaldpolson5450]

I travel both these routes to Edinburgh (as well as the West Coast a few times). It is a close call and I don't think there's much in it. Liam loos like he took the wrong route to the castle, Tbf you don't want to be running to the castle in any weather - unless you a commando - with those steep inclines. Love flying and the plane route. Personally I prefer the train - less hastle/changing + move around + best of all is the scenery (my favs in order: York Minster, Durham Cathedral, Angel of the North, Tyne Bridges, Almouth, Lindisfarne/Holy Island, Berwick-upon-Tweed - the approach over the viaduct one of the greatest views in UK - North Sea Coast, spotting crossing the Border, Eyemouth lighthouse, spotting Arthur's Seat heralding the arrival into the capital),

[@JeSuisRene]

Had you used the Lumo service (as opposed to LNER), I think the journey might have been even cheaper for you.

[@jonathanlam4994]

I've only taken the Lumo from Newcastle to Edinburgh, it usually is cheaper but a tad slower I'm pretty sure but not by much. Electric train too, so a bit more eco friendly. LNER's azuma is probably the best bet in terms of speed afaik

[@ukmaxi]

If you book direct with LNER on their website then the price can be significantly cheaper. So, it really depends on the season and how you book.

[@Nooticus]

All Azumas are either Electric or Bi-mode (Electric and Diesel) but all of them use only electric between London and Edinburgh as the line is electrified.

[@jonathanlam4994]

@pythonmegapixel interesting I always assumed they were hybrid! I usually only go to the shorter stints but super interesting to know.

[@grassytramtracks]

​@@jonathanlam4994 why? It's the same model of train with the same top speed

[@JackJackProductions]

Also between London and Luton, I recommend the East Midlands Railway connect services to/ from Corby. They are fast between St Pancras International and Luton Airport Parkway

[@dospalmascb]

Entertaining video. Edinburgh is a nightmare in the summer. You guys did well.

[@GregCurtin45]

Congrats Nicky! Always a better day when you guys are a part of it. #2to1now. Thanks for the great video, editing, and as always... the music. #ThePointsGuyUK

[@ThePointsGuyDepartures]

Glad you enjoyed Greg!

[@mini-land]

Amazing editing! Love your videos.

[@richardnedbalek1968]

4:49 Liam seems to have a good amount of foot room on the train. 😁

[@alfiestewart6312]

Love these race videos - you guys and Car Throttle have revived the Top Gear races - probably made them better.

[@danearl8607]

They borrowed this one off the guy from Leeds.

[@yanarzayeva7559]

The points guy uk make my day I love there channel❤️

[@malufreedom]

Great video! I was trying to decide between train and flight and it was helpful. I prefer to see the landscapes during the trip. You guys are funny 🫶

[@code-on-Trip-app]

Then you must not miss the offers mentioned in my channel description. Maybe it can be used.

[@jos9116]

I almost always get the train. So sick of plane delays, and it’s great to just go from city centre to city centre. Great vid tho

[@mrvwbug4423]

As you get the collective groan from people who live along the WCML and the constant delays and cancellations on Avanti haha. Though I still can't think of a compelling reason to fly from London to Birmingham or Manchester.

[@thecoachmansfolly]

Myself and my wife took a trip to Edinburgh back in June. We both got EasyJet return tickets for £95 each which was significantly cheaper than the £189 return offered by LNER or the £179 return offered by Lumo. Even with the cost of two open returns on Edinburgh trams (£9.50 each) and parking cost at Luton airport (£26) we were quids in taking the plane and not the train….

[@nigelbenn4642]

At last! Someone who isn't full of shite, plane always cheaper than train and quicker. I literally have no idea where he got 84 quid from.

[@LHRAviation]

Love these races!

[@ThePointsGuyDepartures]

Thanks Rob!

[@fly2golf985]

I just came back from Edinburgh a couple weeks ago. I’m from California and it’s cool to see all the streets that I went on

[@StevoE7]

At 1:00, we can still see your reflection when you stopped running to go back and get your camera 😉🤣

[@md8651]

Nicky rocking the TUMI! Love that backpack, it doubles in size

[@danearl8607]

Tip for anyone wanting a quiet seat on the Avanti West Coast trains. Sit in the cycle carriage at the end (usually coach A) as there's never been a lot of people there whn I use them and it's designated a quiet coach anyhow.

[@kenmel7035]

Yes

[@kenmel7035]

Cool

[@tumenihits5438]

"Tip for anyone wanting a quiet seat on the Avanti West Coast trains." ... but this video is dealing with trains on the East Coast Main Line ....

[@mrvwbug4423]

First class on Avanti is pretty quiet too and is only a half coach (the other half is the food prep area), but that comes with Avanti's high price tag. Standard Premium is the best value for money, but those coaches are usually crowded.

[@amyyates8273]

I met one of the loves of my life on the train from London to Edinburgh. Stuck in between the cars like poor Liam. So I’m solidly team train. ❤

[@PokhrajRoy.]

5:18 Nice to see Nicky getting the workouts sorted lol

[@theushistorian]

I flew London to Edinburgh in November. So easy. But next time I think I'll take the train for the views. Great video!

[@jeff640]

I love these videos, my flight anxiety tends to make me favor the the train

[@davidholiday4494]

Nick may have won but Liam is the best.

[@thepronoob1529]

I took the LNER service to Edinburgh, it was a good and fast ride

[@mad1538]

At the start you can see that they stop running as soon as they're out of shot in the reflections 😅 great vid as always

[@melsyoutube]

My fave duo together again 🥰🥰🥰

[@0530evan]

love these....please continue doing them

[@0530evan]

love the race videos...... but also your comparison of different class seats on the same flights..... considering business class on British air for my next trip over this coming summer

[@tripstracka1643]

Liam! Shorts,shorts man! Great vid gents, like always.

[@ruchichiks]

Really enjoyed this!

[@neilburns8869]

I sympathise with you climbing those steep steps up to the Royal Mile, gruelling exercise then of course you have the slope up the cobbled street to Edinburgh Castle itself.

[@PStaveley]

If going from Tower Hill to Luton Airport then surely it would have been quicker to have caught a westbound District or Circle train to Blackfriars and caught the Thameslink train to Luton Airport from there. The Circle Line is relatively infrequent and not particularly reliable.

[@Nooticus]

Indeed!

[@PStaveley]

@@elizabethpringle Indeed. I have now checked the timetable. On Mon-Fri during the middle of the day the Circle Line operates every 10 minutes. So the fact that they had to wait 6 minutes implies that the previous train was running late so the previous gap would have been 14 minutes. It is best to avoid relying only on the Circle Line.

[@joshholloway4799]

Liam should also have gone westbound to blackfriard and got thameslink to st Pancras and walked to King's Cross. As the circle line station at King's Cross St Pancras is in St Pancras and it is quite the walk over from the circle line platforms to King's Cross station.

[@PStaveley]

@@joshholloway4799 That route also has merits. I did not mention it because if a Circle Line train was immediate then it probably would have been quicker because it would avoid the longish walk at Blackfriars and the relative distances at Kings Cross from the Circle (H&C/Met) Lines is similar to from the Thameslink Station, particularly if boarding the LNER train at Kings Cross at the south end. Interestingly NIcky used the best exit at Farringdon even though that was against the signage. Unless he next did a very long walk then he would have exited from the Underground part of the station, crossed the road and entered the Thameslink part of the station, which is the quickest interchange. There is a signed direct Westbound Circle/H&C/Met to Northbound Thameslink interchange (which is longish) but, as I said, he did not use that route.

[@fgrion]

thought exactly the same. moreover, they rush when they have a schedule departure.... would have made more sense going from tower of london to king's cross, tube sv tube+train

[@macrizandrabangit3871]

Lol this is a nice video. My cousin and I always debating about getting into the tram or plane every time I go out of London. I am a plane person and she’s a tram person. Probably would always take the plane and will just experience the tram once .

[@scottrenachowski7768]

Brilliant! Hope my home city of Edinburgh treated you both well :)

[@lawrencecody9316]

The train is easier on many counts, as its just more convenient than getting out to an airport, and in from an airport...the train, city centre to city centre, and in this experiment, half the cost of the plane, and once at Kings Cross, train leaves on time, no stress.and the train is worth it for the secenery once you get further North, from Newcastle..a good experiment..but for me, it would be the train.

[@kenmel7035]

Bro so far best video yet.

[@caroledowney6908]

Lovely views on train. Very civilized☺️

[@dozz0118]

on 18 Aug EZY delayed by 2 hours ex LGW and on arrival at EDI we had a further 45 mins to wait while some body could be found to deplane us. On that occasion, we could actually have driven quicker! Next time I will go by train!

[@josephmanofwar]

Luton are in the process of building a people mover a la gatwick but between the train station and the terminal i believe. 'The in between carriage bit' u mean the vestibule hehe

[@neilburns8869]

I have admit that I do like some of the views out of the train, I hope that Liam's carriage has some nice A/C.

[@katfanker]

Just love you two!

[@travelswithjess]

Great video! 😀

[@ACELog]

I've done both journeys several times on business, from Croydon, except I went from Gatwick. Liam - Farringdon - did you know that, if you've pre-bought your train ticket, there's a direct pedestrian link from the District & Circle line Northbound platform, over a footbridge (about half-way along the platform), back down straight onto the Thameslink Northbound platform? You could have saved 5 minutes had you used that. 🙂 Nicky - I found the Edinburgh tram slower than a taxi, but I guess, as you observed, it depends on taxi availability.

[@planedudea380]

Gotta love these videos

[@garyvincent7934]

Liam, brave man doing LKX to Edi in standard 😃 Great race, I have a similar conundrum travelling throughout Europe or even Long haul being based in the North. Choice is usually BA out of LHR and take LNER down from Doncaster (1hr 45m), get across London to Paddington and then pay exorbitant Heathrow Express fee. Alternative... fly with KLM out of either Leeds, Humberside or Manchester and go via AMS (50min flight) with a 2hr or less layover. When you add up the time and hassle factor, I choose KLM every time. Shame a dutch airline services the north better than our national flag carrier but go with what works.👍

[@imsbvs]

Next time investigate the Elizabeth line, change at Farringdon (next stop from Kings Cross)

[@kajfeis7713]

For almost a 100 pounds difference, I'll take the train for sure. But I am train hound, so might still take the train if the price would be the same. Unless I really can't afford 40 minutes...

[@TheRip72]

That depends when you want to go. There are 2-3 flights a day from Luton to Edinburgh & you would need to book in advance. Trains run at least every hour & you can just turn up.

[@sandersson2813]

First class is the only way on a long train. Too many scum in second class.

[@WaiferThyme]

WTG NIKKI! The icecream did me in hahahahaha

[@alexmcwhirter6611]

Must have been a good reason to choose EZY from LTN. But surely the best air option would be BA from LCY.

[@davidwright7193]

Timing? Cost? But yes it would be quicker. LCY is by far the best London airport to use for short haul flights

[@alexmcwhirter6611]

@@davidwright7193 It might be the cost, it might be because the departure point would give LCY the advantage. But it's not related to timing as BA operated nine flights LCY-EDI which is more than EZY operates LTN-EDI.

[@mattyyoung7261]

Yesss love these videos

[@trainman305team]

Also, If you take LUMO from London to Edinburgh and book in advance, you can get the price to as little as £30

[@mrvwbug4423]

I've also heard Lumo is nicer than standard class on LNER

[@drrd4127]

"It's a hot day, It's 27 degree" 🤣🤣🤣😂🤣I am Scottish living in Australia that is not hot!!! 27 degrees is spring here.

[@Lloydb723]

Worth noting on the train that it depends what company you use. For me I have to get Cross Country and they often don't have decent (or any) food and drink so not the type of service shown here..

[@jamesroutledge9639]

Thanks great video and funny as well. May have summarized the total costs and total time? It appears that you left London at 1130

[@KayKayshaw]

This was so much fun to watch 😂 Watching from Indonesia hehehe

[@kevinpoulton]

On LNER coach c is the unreserve one. alway best to try that coach first for free seat . You can reserve seat up to 5 minutes before train departs too

[@leonbartalus7915]

That was cool dude, Do a race to Glasgow Eayjet from luton and Avanti west coast to Glasgow

[@ghighlandchieftain4462]

Brilliant video should try go on lumo from London to Edinburgh and cheap race train vs plane lumo vs Ryanair

[@johnavery3941]

Surprised Liam lost here. I once raced my brother from London Gatwick to Dundee, I took the train and he flew and I won by an hour and I got all the lovely views, no check ins, no waiting in a lounge, no security...... take the train to Scotland

[@VtorHunter]

For a difference of under an hour? No question, the train all the way. If security was more like normal and you didn't have the quick pass or whatever its called then it would be longer for sure. The train is way more scenic, and better for the environment. And cheaper! Win all around.

[@nleak92]

They've opened a transit from Luton Airport Parkway to the terminal now

[@danielshaw9979]

I went with my dad from London to Edinburgh in September or October in 2019... Little did we know that there was a festival and that the train would be absolutely packed. We were sitting on the floor in that rubber connecting part, it was so full. So I didn't get to see the views, really bummed about that. Not my best afternoon

[@donaldhooper3064]

You guys are awesome. Wish to hell that I had your energy. Don H Ocala, Florida USA

[@andreapicchio04]

Can you do the same but Rome-Milan ? Frecciarossa vs Ita Airways

[@ashlynadventures912]

If you were in Edinburgh during Fringe, I hope you guys too in a show. I knew a cast member in Shrek and heard great things

[@syzzA-]

I Saw u guys in edingburhg and i was too scared to say hi :D

[@SatraninaLane]

I went to Edinburgh this summer and I miss the castle so much

[@isaacr-d8708]

Hi! I really like your channel! Have an amazing day!

[@tripstracka1643]

Nicky, yum, jet fuel! You sound like Homer Simpson with donuts! Lol 😝

[@beabanbeaban2726]

I just did leeds-edinburgh to your eco food was an 9/10

[@jj-if6it]

Lol at 27 degrees being extremely hot (laughing as an Australian)

[@AdamPTrainz]

Liam You could have gone on LumO instead of LNER. It’s cheaper and quicker most of the time

[@Strudlfaust]

Dude, LNER has FREE seat reservations. Use them

[@mrvwbug4423]

Probably wasn't any left on that train if he booked into an unreserved coach.

[@luisstransport]

Great video

[@BensPlanesTrainsProductions]

I was thinking you might have gone on Lumo from London to Edinburgh. Might have been a different outcome, faster services than LNER.

[@code-on-Trip-app]

Moreover, Lumo equipment is good and there are discounts recently.

[@neiliusflavius]

Generally the airport bus is slightly faster than the tram - except at peak times where the tram going off road for much of the route helps it.

[@mrvwbug4423]

At first I was like "why are they on the same tube train, KC and Victoria are in opposite directions" then I realized he was going to Luton not Gatwick haha. I have seen the QR code to order food thing on TfW on their locomotive hauled trains (their premium service), didn't sample the food though as only rode that train between Shrewsbury and Crewe.

[@rastinemokykla2421]

thanks for a video. you could just actually check online how much time it would take for both journeys and end the video

[@EV-Diary]

Should have. Got a seat frog first class upgrade on lner I got one a few days ago for £9

[@gilliandrysdale5306]

I would take the train for preference ❤🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿ps welcome to my home town!

[@PokhrajRoy.]

Nicky, anyone who follows you on Instagram knows you’re the fittest of them all. Also, I died at “See you later, sucker!”

[@AllineedisKIMI]

Yeah, Nicky needs to run at the beginning of the video. He needs to get to Luton.

[@77smp]

A. Skylink 100 quicker than the tram 30 mins and for LNER....Seatfrog, well worth it!

[@iiBus]

I agree, Airlink 100 would've been much more comfortable and faster.

[@justmeajah]

I watched this few months ago, now I rewatch this, got me teary because now I called Waverley my home base for the next year 🫶

[@jonathanwatanabe8246]

You guys got to do Miami to Orlando - Brightline vs flying.