RACING from London to Amsterdam | PLANE (KLM) vs TRAIN (Eurostar)

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The Points Guy | Departures

The Points Guy | Departures

Күн бұрын

We raced from London to Amsterdam in our latest plane vs train battle! Liam took a KLM flight from London City Airport while Nicky hopped aboard the Eurostar service at St Pancras International.
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Plane:
KLM Ticket - £270
DLR - £3.60
NS Schiphol train: £4.87
Total: £278.47
Train:
Eurostar: £299 (Business Premier ticket)
Tube: £2.50
Total: £301.50
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@myamwezmyamwez8669
@myamwezmyamwez8669 2 жыл бұрын
Edit: Don't read this before watching the video! Getting from London to Amsterdam via a train and arriving there just 15 mins later than a person travelling by airplane honestly shows the superb state the European train network is in!
@nightwing8666
@nightwing8666 2 жыл бұрын
His flight took off later than the train. He had 2 hours for his flight while he had to get in his train immediately. I'm pretty sure the flight would have still been faster if they got on the same time lol
@EV-Diary
@EV-Diary 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for ruining the video with your top comment😂
@alexturlais8558
@alexturlais8558 2 жыл бұрын
@@nightwing8666 that's the point. Flights might be faster but take a long time to get through security, passport control ect.
@toolchesst
@toolchesst 2 жыл бұрын
@@EV-Diary exactly
@abakedslayermcgiles2703
@abakedslayermcgiles2703 2 жыл бұрын
@@nightwing8666 Flying by plane out of LCY = 3 hours at the airport + 1 hr 15 mins in the air excluding delays + 30 mins to the Amsterdam city centre = 4 hrs and 45 minutes. London St Pancras to Amsterdam Centraal = 4 hrs and 7 mins and you arrive slap bang in the city centre. Hmmmmm….the train in this instance is the quicker route I think you’ll find regardless of delays or not.
@orighomisandediare4990
@orighomisandediare4990 2 жыл бұрын
Id rather take the train. We used to have to change trains to catch snell train to Rotterdam at Brussels. We had to go from international arrival to enter the local train terminal. Nice one Eurostar! Thanks Points guys for giving me he heads up
@gobbledygook5786
@gobbledygook5786 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a plane guy through and through lol!
@mstrmren
@mstrmren 2 жыл бұрын
The Eurostar is probabaly double the airfare, wouldn't recommend it!
@ov_079
@ov_079 2 жыл бұрын
@@mstrmren it can get pretty cheap if u book in advance, about 40 euro's
@gobbledygook5786
@gobbledygook5786 2 жыл бұрын
Also, keep in mind, he’s gone from City, which is conveniently, along with Heathrow, one of the most expensive and elite London airports to fly from. Had he taken the train to Luton, I doubt his WIZZ fare would have been high at all.
@mstrmren
@mstrmren 2 жыл бұрын
@@gobbledygook5786 Yeah, and the other one rode the Eurostar in Business Premier which is actually good, compared to the atrocious service and comfort they offer in Standard.
@TheRailwayDrone
@TheRailwayDrone 2 жыл бұрын
It's still fascinating that the dude arrived by train with only a 15 minute deficit. I'd take the train instead. I wish we had options like this all over the U.S.
@jakehowie442
@jakehowie442 2 жыл бұрын
Yes the flight was delayed by 15 minutes though
@TheRailwayDrone
@TheRailwayDrone 2 жыл бұрын
@@jakehowie442 Yeah which would have only been a 30 min deficit, but knowing the state of Schipol airport nowadays, the person on the flight would still have not made much ground.
@mstrmren
@mstrmren 2 жыл бұрын
It's not as good as it seems. Some highspeed trains are relatively cheap in Europe (ICE in Germany for example) but the Eurostar will cost double or three times as much as the plane.
@pureb7235
@pureb7235 2 жыл бұрын
@@jakehowie442 Flights are always delayed in London these days.
@TheRailwayDrone
@TheRailwayDrone 2 жыл бұрын
@@mstrmren Yeah because there's no competition partly. I've been on the Eurostar multiple times. It was relatively cheap for me because I purchased the tickets well in advance each time. But I'd rather pay more for that service compared to what Amtrak charges and the service it delivers.
@TheArmouredArmadillo
@TheArmouredArmadillo 2 жыл бұрын
Even though the train takes a bit longer, I'd definitely rather take it, especially in standard premiere given that gets the same seats as business premiere. Therefore at 6'5 that is definitely preferable to being cramped on a short haul flight. Also, beautiful scenery from the train, and obviously more environmentally friendly :)
@copperdog
@copperdog 2 жыл бұрын
Better food services too
@tomsargentvevo9216
@tomsargentvevo9216 2 жыл бұрын
Surely there’s no need to rush either to the airport or the Eurostar unless you’re late, because the flight and train both leave at a set time 😂
@sadesekoni1231
@sadesekoni1231 2 жыл бұрын
Passport control etc takes time to go through…
@hugoandremacmanus3315
@hugoandremacmanus3315 2 жыл бұрын
@@sadesekoni1231 Schengen is fab!
@ekayd1
@ekayd1 2 жыл бұрын
Uik
@tomhermens7698
@tomhermens7698 2 жыл бұрын
Train is much faster and by far less hassle
@tomhermens7698
@tomhermens7698 2 жыл бұрын
Training is faster
@wouterpaap9343
@wouterpaap9343 2 жыл бұрын
Must have been journeys of 5 to mostly 6 ours. Co2 by train was 6kg, by plane 63 kg. Doesn't that make it quite easy to choose, when the taveltimes differ 4,5%? And beware: traveling from (more common) Heathrow or Gatwick is a complete other storie, because it takes a lot more time to get to those airports then to City Airport. All in all for me the train wins.
@TheMx5Channel
@TheMx5Channel 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, i do think there is a place for planes and i love them. But 15 minutes for 10 times the amount of co2 is not worth it. But traveling to the US or Greece i won't be taking the train or other means :)
@haemilprodde
@haemilprodde 2 жыл бұрын
I genuinely counted London City airport as a cheat in this race 😄
@YorranKlees
@YorranKlees 2 жыл бұрын
My thought exactly: for that kind of trip, train is by far the best solution in any scenario, even from City Airport. I must admit though, my heart was racing as they were running to the rendez-vous point. I kinda got caught in it 😅
@DakotaTheRota
@DakotaTheRota 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention the train looks far more comfortable, relaxed, and it has better food.
@velotill
@velotill 2 жыл бұрын
yea, for two young blokes in 2022 to be all about convenience and "it's all a matter of choice" simply doesn't cut it. Take the damn train, it's a no brainer. You really don't have to be a Greta fanboy to be seriously taking leasure/carbon footprint into your travel considerations. Also, no mentioning how Brexit might impact travel times because of passport checks might be sleek but definitely not for me. so, no like and no subscription from me but thanks to @Wouter Paap for raising (and specifying) on the issue of CO2 emissions.
@joepewald5544
@joepewald5544 2 жыл бұрын
So basically, if the fight took off from Heathrow or any other airport in London, the train would have definitely won.
@ey7290
@ey7290 2 жыл бұрын
Depends where you are travelling from, if you are coming from Sussex it's quicker to go to Gatwick rather than City or St Pancras, Buckinghamshire, Berkshire its quicker to go to Heathrow, Bedfordshire its quicker to go to Luton, Essex its quicker to go to Stansted. City airport is there to serve the City of London and the Isle of Dogs, it takes 25 minutes to go from the City to City Airport, compared to 1hr to go from City to Heathrow
@jakehowie442
@jakehowie442 Жыл бұрын
Exactly it’s called City Airport for a reason. You travel from the city. Trains are quite honestly a disaster in the UK now, only LNER is any good and on time Of course Elizabeth Line too
@ncard00
@ncard00 Жыл бұрын
Up video quality to 4K60fps!
@KeithApp
@KeithApp 2 жыл бұрын
For convenience, I think the train wins as it is city centre to city centre. It's also more relaxing. With only a few minutes later, it's a good contender against the plane for speed, too. Really great that Eurostar now have this direct Amsterdam service.
@myra0224
@myra0224 2 жыл бұрын
And don't forget the train also had to stop in Brussels and Rotterdam before going to Amsterdam
@murderboytje
@murderboytje Жыл бұрын
But almost nobody lives in city center, so that doesnt help. And in speed plane always win (topspeed). Only on very small flights its a contender).
@aidenstanley7305
@aidenstanley7305 7 ай бұрын
It was only a few minutes later because the plane guy allowed a ridiculously excessive amount of time. Granted that was likely to give the train a fighting chance, but if they'd both had just-in-time services the plane would have won by well over an hour.
@HSTHoward
@HSTHoward 2 жыл бұрын
Will always take the Eurostar to Paris/Brussels/Amsterdam over flying any day! Far superior in all aspects.
@fgrion
@fgrion 2 жыл бұрын
hm not really, it all depends where you live and in many cases eurostar is more expansive than flying (because lot of airlines competing). also to board the eurostar you still need to queue up for security. the journey to amsterdam for example takes 4 hours, while the plane 1 hour. i am wondering what are the "all aspects" you refer to.
@HSTHoward
@HSTHoward 2 жыл бұрын
@@fgrion All aspects you ask? 1: No liquid restrictions like the airline 2: takes you from city centre to city centre with no faff 3: No getting to the airport minimum 2 hours before 4: far more comfortable and you can watch the world go by 5: Eurostar do some good deals making them cheaper in some cases 6: No real baggage restrictions Not to mention with such a small difference in arrival time, I’d stick with the train.
@Hession0Drasha
@Hession0Drasha 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the same covenience to be spread to birmingham and manchester.
@HSTHoward
@HSTHoward 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hession0Drasha That was the plan initially…
@AlasdairSun
@AlasdairSun 2 жыл бұрын
@@HSTHoward also more environmentally friendly
@SteveMorton
@SteveMorton 2 жыл бұрын
I would take the train each time. Less stress, better flexibility when it comes to luggage too. You should have both had to carry a suitcase!! Great video guys.
@murderboytje
@murderboytje Жыл бұрын
Planes dont give any stress? And whats less flexible with luggage? Never had any trouble.
@nickgarciaman
@nickgarciaman 2 жыл бұрын
It would have been nice had you actually shared the price of both journeys for comparison.
@kvom01
@kvom01 2 жыл бұрын
The 2-hour wait for boarding the plane tells me that they calculate the starting time to make it a close race. What was the price difference?
@astonm1990
@astonm1990 2 жыл бұрын
Well, with current waiting times at the airports... I travelled from Amsterdam to Lisbon two weeks ago and the waiting line for security was 1,5 hours. So excluding bag drop off. We arrived 4 hours in advance in the airport and eventually had only 1 hour left waiting at gate.
@jedgeorge3485
@jedgeorge3485 2 жыл бұрын
The Eurostar is more expensive with 20-50 £ extra than the plane, depends on the time of day of departure. At 6 AM the Eurostar is 20 £ cheaper than the plane. Plane ticket price had no checked in luggage included. Calculation for 15th September 2022. (economy class both)
@mimikatz
@mimikatz 2 жыл бұрын
@@jedgeorge3485 problem is that isn’t Business Premier prices. With Business Premier you get shorter queues. Which means the train would have taken even longer. I prefer train for this journey but the numbers/time isn’t correct
@startrekwarsmixguy
@startrekwarsmixguy 2 жыл бұрын
Price is the killer here, I was looking at visiting Amsterdam this year, and retrun flights cost the same as the train to london, let alone the eurostar. All in it was 3x the price to go by train, which is a real shame because I would much rather have gone by train, even if on paper it takes 2-3 hours longer. Eurostar: great if you live in London, not so much for the 60 million of us who don't.
@joshmarsh2532
@joshmarsh2532 2 жыл бұрын
@@startrekwarsmixguy The Eurostar was originally meant to serve the rest of Britain as far as Glasgow but that never ended up happening. While France, Spain and Italy have trains that can compete with airlines on price and speed most of Europe isn't there yet
@becfowler_creatingaliveness
@becfowler_creatingaliveness 2 жыл бұрын
The train is far classier! Pity there was no mention of comparing the environmental impact of both modes of transport.
@jakehowie442
@jakehowie442 2 жыл бұрын
The Eurostar train looked dirty and old
@vicsushiaviation001
@vicsushiaviation001 2 жыл бұрын
@@jakehowie442 Agreed
@Project2457official
@Project2457official 2 жыл бұрын
@@jakehowie442 and yet does it combust anything for propulsion? sorry no its electrified, meaning the grid could easily supply renewable and cleanly generated electricity, or low carbon options like nuclear fission instead of high emissions coal and natural gas.
@myra0224
@myra0224 2 жыл бұрын
@@jakehowie442 And on the plane you're cramped together like a tin of sardines. Train over plane any day, it's far more enjoyable and it is actually very clean (in comparison to planes, definitely low cost ones, the train was amazingly clean)
@ZazzelTheGamer
@ZazzelTheGamer Жыл бұрын
@@jakehowie442 How tf did it look dirty and old?
@AverytheCubanAmerican
@AverytheCubanAmerican 2 жыл бұрын
I find it pretty fitting how Liam experienced a 15-minute delay for his flight, and yet he beat Nicky to Dam Square by 15 minutes as well. Although Liam won, I say points deducted because he didn't sit in the driver's seat of the DLR 😂
@C2K777
@C2K777 2 жыл бұрын
I know Liam was using LCY but I will never cease to be impressed how BA can serve a cooked breakfast and 3-4 rounds of drinks on the hop from LGW-AMS. It's a symphony of efficiency ( until you arrive at the cluster f**k that is AMS of late of course 😆)
@Horizon301.
@Horizon301. 2 жыл бұрын
How long is the flight?
@jorisvanhandenhove5865
@jorisvanhandenhove5865 2 жыл бұрын
don't you mean KLM
@anneonimous9306
@anneonimous9306 2 жыл бұрын
Except it was KLM not BA
@C2K777
@C2K777 2 жыл бұрын
@@anneonimous9306 Fair point, which I was aware of but tbf I probably should've added that as well.
@Mike-pz1wg
@Mike-pz1wg 2 жыл бұрын
You can also take the new metroline called "North-South Line" southbound for 1 stop so you don't have to run 🤣
@Selivio
@Selivio 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, or take a tram wich is leaving every few minutes and is even with the possible wait time faster than running...
@ryanexplorer
@ryanexplorer 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this episode, took the Eurostar a few months ago and was very happy overall. It's less stressful than the airport experience
@tommarchant711
@tommarchant711 2 жыл бұрын
You guys need to talk about the carbon cost of each option, the train would've been so much more beneficial for the environment!
@Ro99
@Ro99 2 жыл бұрын
Train is better for the planet and by I think 10 journeys equivalent
@jakehowie442
@jakehowie442 2 жыл бұрын
Why don’t you think about that when you do anything like buying food and driving your car. Bollocks to Carbon cost
@mstrmren
@mstrmren 2 жыл бұрын
And you need to talk about how fucking expensive the Eurostar is compared to flying.
@ov_079
@ov_079 2 жыл бұрын
@@mstrmren about 40 euro's cheapest option if you book way in advance
@Ro99
@Ro99 2 жыл бұрын
@@ov_079 you can get some flights if you book in advance on a budget airline for like 25 pounds
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer to take the train, I mean that's how I got to my meetings with Xi Jinping, Trump, and Putin in Beijing, Hanoi, and Vladivostok. China gave us an Air China 747 to use for my first Trump summit in Singapore and it's just not the same. When you ride a train, you enter a train of thought, and better connect with the land around you. While we currently don't have high-speed rail, high-speed rail connecting the whole Korean Peninsula is part of the plan when we reunify.
@MrYouMeYou59
@MrYouMeYou59 2 жыл бұрын
Ur The real one?
@globetraveller360
@globetraveller360 2 жыл бұрын
As much as I love LCY, I think I may try the train as it looks comfortable and quiet. Ending up in Amsterdam Centraal station which is a bonus without the faf of changing. LCY is quick but if you get hit with a delay it can add so much to your time if your in a rush. I still think LCY is one of the best airports in London.
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 2 жыл бұрын
Whenever Liam and Nicky start the Intro, it rarely goes smoothly lmao
@Skilianol
@Skilianol 2 жыл бұрын
Considering the Business Premier checkin and security makes a huge time saving, it's not 100% a like for like comparison to an economy class ticket on KLM. I would love to see the comparison with a bog-standard eurostar ticket with the huge queues mentioned :)
@septology
@septology 2 жыл бұрын
There's no time saving because the train leaves at the same time either way though, doesn't it?
@Skilianol
@Skilianol 2 жыл бұрын
@@septology but you have to get to the station a lot earlier with a standard ticket then a business premier ticket, and business premier is crazy expensive
@notroll1279
@notroll1279 2 жыл бұрын
@@septology Re-think your comment the next time you're missing a train or flight because you're stuck in some crazy queue.
@dennisrettke
@dennisrettke 2 жыл бұрын
@@Skilianol not really. He spent time in the lounge. With a regular ticket, sure the line would have been there but no more than 20 mins or so and the train would have left the same time obviously! Just no time in the lounge
@munstergirl25
@munstergirl25 2 жыл бұрын
I do think that is comparable because he flew from London City which costs Premium usually. Even getting to Heathrow would be longer, never mind Gatwick or Stansted.
@escwilde222
@escwilde222 2 жыл бұрын
The fact it was only 15 minutes while the train took such a way around and the flight of course right to Amsterdam is amazing.
@ChenXiajie
@ChenXiajie 2 жыл бұрын
It's really a good race and both way from London to Amsterdam are amazing. I would like the train way a little more because it seems more comfy. It's good way to show how to take the transport from one city to another in Europe. Nice job!
@methcooker6402
@methcooker6402 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta love how they crossed 1/4th of the way when they arrive at their main transportation
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 2 жыл бұрын
Not Liam teasing by saying “Maybe Japan?” DO NOT LEAVE US ON A CLIFFHANGER 🔥
@joelbiju4304
@joelbiju4304 2 жыл бұрын
Another great vid, great to see more and more posts on the channel, cant wait for more! I just want to know how KLM compares to other airlines which serve in the same areas?
@lvthud
@lvthud 2 жыл бұрын
If you mean London - Amsterdam, it's really all the same, nothing overly impressive and (at least out of LHR) delays, I spent two weeks bouncing around Europe and the UK and yeah, the train is the way to go at least to the 3 hour flight boundary.
@joelbiju4304
@joelbiju4304 2 жыл бұрын
@@lvthud ok thanks!
@judithbn8699
@judithbn8699 2 жыл бұрын
Try BA CityFlyer from LCY-RTM, the great alternative to the madness that is Schiphol at the moment!
@anneneville6255
@anneneville6255 2 жыл бұрын
For Short distance flight it’s not worth it to fly with those expensive airlines (Lufthansa, British airways, klm) since the services is the same as with easyJet it eurowings. If you fly long distance it’s better to fly with them
@devshah5570
@devshah5570 2 жыл бұрын
My friends need to take inspiration from these types of races!!
@MelHughes
@MelHughes 2 жыл бұрын
Delighted I stumbled across your channel. Really enjoyable. Now I'll have watch all your content! Nice, respectful lads doing fun, informative stuff. Best wishes to you both from Ireland. Stay Classy.
@kennethchongweithart7905
@kennethchongweithart7905 2 жыл бұрын
I just love this racing series...love from Kuching Malaysia!!!
@aleccooks
@aleccooks 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! the 15 minutes dont count if the service on the eurostar is that comfortable!
@wouterpaap9343
@wouterpaap9343 2 жыл бұрын
Some others numbers (corrected): there are about 60 flights a day from the 6 airports of London to Amsterdam Schiphol, 12.000 seats vv. A full Eurostar train consisting of 2 engines and 18 coaches carry 750 seats. To replace air traffic, 16 of those Eurostars a day would be needed. That is one train every hour in each direction. Currently thera are 4. Anybody wondering why short term train tickets are expensive?
@Ihsoyust
@Ihsoyust 2 жыл бұрын
And we’re waiting for you in Japan! I recommend to fly ANA or JAL as the service is impeccable.
@robertmansfield2856
@robertmansfield2856 2 жыл бұрын
Eurostar are adding an additional service to Rotterdam and Amsterdam which will depart St Pancras at around 6.15am. I'm not sure when this additional service will commence.
@pcvanz
@pcvanz 2 жыл бұрын
September 5th
@robertmansfield2856
@robertmansfield2856 2 жыл бұрын
@@pcvanz Thank's I will dare that in mind, as I am going over to the Netherlands in September.
@zork999
@zork999 2 жыл бұрын
I normally really like Schiphol, but if Liam had landed on the Polderbaan he might still be on the plane. ;) It would be interesting to see the relative costs, as Nicky took the expensive version of the train, but I don't know about Liam.
@espvp
@espvp Жыл бұрын
The costs are in the description
@justanaviationguy11
@justanaviationguy11 Жыл бұрын
I would definitely go for the plane. More comfortable, faster and beautiful views from above!
@matearabar5821
@matearabar5821 2 жыл бұрын
I've binged all your train vs plane races and I love your style. It's really funny how the train is only slightly late for both Amsterdam and Edinburgh, when I would expect the train to be faster option for the latter. As a fan of trains I think a drawback of Eurostar is that you still need to do the passport control (even if you got away easy this time). I know you are UK based, but it would be really interesting to compare journeys in the Schengen area, eg Amsterdam-Frankfurt or Paris-Milan, as you can literally just hop on the train minutes before departure. Amsterdam-Frankfurt should take only about 4.5 hours, but DB trains are notorious for being delayed which might add to the suspense. Paris-Milan takes somewhat longer at almost 7 h, but you get views of the Alps and the executive seats on the frecciarossa are really luxurious from what I've seen on youtube, so it would be a nice comfortable ride at 300 kph. To make this one comparable maybe try travelling with luggage and take public transport to the airport. Looking forward to the next race!
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 2 жыл бұрын
Omg it’s the Eternally Travelling Comedy Duo aka Liam and Nicky! Happy to see a racing video again! 👏🏽
@lohphat
@lohphat 2 жыл бұрын
How much co2 was expelled in each mode? I’d bet that the train was much more efficient, had fewer mode changes, and was more spacious. No luggage rules either. No brainer. Train every time.
@steinwaldmadchen
@steinwaldmadchen 2 жыл бұрын
Planes are just horribly inefficient when taxiing, climbing decending. Even if I have to fly, I always try to find direct options, stick with economy class and choose 787 / A350 / A320NEO whenever I can.
@wouterpaap9343
@wouterpaap9343 2 жыл бұрын
Train:
@davidholiday4494
@davidholiday4494 2 жыл бұрын
nice to see you guys in this video - from my point of view i will always choose the train over the plane, if possible,. I just can't cope with airports anymore.
@gluffoful
@gluffoful Жыл бұрын
Somewhat ironically, the quick and frequent train services to and from the airports played a major role in the plane beating the train. Imagine having to wait for a bus... Or worse, taking Ryanair from Stansted to Eindhoven (cheaper, but would probably take 5 hours for this race)...
@varietychannelHD
@varietychannelHD 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome guys! I took the Eurostar from London to Paris and it was really easy travel, will do it again to Amsterdam in future!
@flyguy9958
@flyguy9958 Жыл бұрын
I am from Amsterdam but lived in London for three years. Therefore I made this journey about 50 times. Unfortunately, the tickets of KLM are usually about 1/3 of the price compared to Eurostar. In case you fly EasyJet (LHR - AMS) it can be even cheaper. That said, I would have definitely chosen train over plane if the prices were not that high. Not sure what the price differences are at the moment.
@tripstracka1643
@tripstracka1643 2 жыл бұрын
Always fun watching you boys race. Very informative, yet entertaining. Keep up the good work.
@FC360D
@FC360D Жыл бұрын
I'm a little confused, Liam said he has 2 hours until his flight meanwhile Nicky seemed to get on the train with minimum amount of time spent in the lounge. Did the train take 1-2 hours to leave the platform after arriving or something as it takes just over 3 hours to get to Amsterdam via train and the flight takes just over an hour plus the 2 hours Liam had to wait so I'm confused as to how Liam was late? Did I miss something in the video?
@lauucecii
@lauucecii Жыл бұрын
They are not clear explaining how much time they spent traveling
@Tweeteketje
@Tweeteketje 2 жыл бұрын
Next time London - Rotterdam, that could be an even closer call! Hi-speed train from Schiphol to Rotterdam Central is 25 minutes, but there is also a metro/bus to Rotterdam airport (a bit more than 20 minutes). From Rotterdam Airport there is a connection with London City as well
@sxflyer5410
@sxflyer5410 Жыл бұрын
and on London - Brussels the train wins hands down!
@amyw6808
@amyw6808 Жыл бұрын
My husband no longer flies (he was involved with a near collision on an aeroplane about 7 years ago), so only travels to Europe by train now. He just got back from a work trip to Berlin (Eurostar to Brussels, TGV to Köln and then ICE to Berlin). We are going to the south of France in July and will take Eurostar to Lille then TGV to Marseilles. These longer journeys can take longer in general though. The problem with trains…? Strikes. Husband has been caught by British train strikes twice (didn’t effect Eurostar but did effect his travel from London to home), and in France last week (his Eurostar was cancelled and he had to stay in Brussels overnight and get another the next day).
@justanaviationguy11
@justanaviationguy11 Жыл бұрын
After all it's his decision but even though he was involved in an incident, that should keep him away from flying. After all, planes are still proven to be safer than trains or cars.
@jowitavanderstel2112
@jowitavanderstel2112 Жыл бұрын
Calculating from door to door the train is a big time win for me. I always fly from Eindhoven to Stansted. The total time of traveling from my house to st Pancras is over an hour more than by train. But train is more expensive, so depends on the plans for us.
@bertoverweel6588
@bertoverweel6588 Жыл бұрын
Did a weekend London with my grandson a few years back , flew from Rotterdam to city and back with BA , was great .
@vishalvelusamy10
@vishalvelusamy10 2 жыл бұрын
Pls review Qantas Airlines Pls my kind req I really wanna see the flight’s infrastructure,food,seats,cabin behaviour etc.
@benjaminlamey3591
@benjaminlamey3591 Жыл бұрын
For teh same price, I would take the train, just to avoid the hastle in Schiphol to take the next train. and also for the meal, looked really good for a travel.
@TheHennotaams
@TheHennotaams 2 жыл бұрын
Let's be honest, if you take any other London airport apart from City, the train would win every time.
@jj-if6it
@jj-if6it 2 жыл бұрын
"Interesting smells here"." Hahaha. I loved this, I'll watch the others. I took the train to Paris but the plane to Amsterdam, trains are just so much more relaxing and you get to see all the scenery go by. I'd rather be on the move rather than standing in an airport queue
@lameplanet
@lameplanet 2 жыл бұрын
Not really a useful comparison because while the train guy arrived with only 40 minutes to departure, the plane guy sat around for 2 hours at the airport before even the gate was opened. Basically, if you were picking your time of departure to suit the plane, it would be way faster end to end.
@SJ-cc2il
@SJ-cc2il 2 жыл бұрын
would have been more interesting / relevant if you travelled normal class on Eurostar and from a regular airport (i.e. not LCY)
@jakkuwolfinsomnia8058
@jakkuwolfinsomnia8058 Жыл бұрын
I lived in the Netherlands for a year, my favourite airline was KLM. They’re professional, efficient, provide really good food and a top quality service in general. Only downside is they on the expensive end of airlines.
@xnyrage
@xnyrage 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly... The train seems to be less of a hassle. Sure, from the Bridge, both had to take mass transport but after that, the train is definitely the least "dramatic."
@myra0224
@myra0224 2 жыл бұрын
Least dramatic? What do you mean?
@xnyrage
@xnyrage 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't mean that as an insult. Just there's less "oooh, security lines, checked bags, will I make it my gate halfway across the airport.. come on board faster, will the weather or ATC hold us and delay, will there be an opened gate upon landing. . Hurry hurry move faster and get off... is there public transport and is it running?" Mind you... I have millions of flight miles (14 flights scheduled in the next 7 weeks). The train route just seemed mostly "drama free."
@myra0224
@myra0224 2 жыл бұрын
@@xnyrage Ohh, I see! I prefer the train as well. Even though delays happen and you can miss your connection, I just couldn't deal with the hassle of just sitting around for hours and then being cramped in such a small space 😅 Also, the train is much more environmentally friendly so that's why I prefer it too ☺️
@xnyrage
@xnyrage 2 жыл бұрын
Yup... see... less "drama." I love a quality train system. And I love nothing more than actually stepping onto a plane. I would love to have this choice documented in this video.
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 2 жыл бұрын
Nicky, we will not mind if you geek out over the sexy Eurostar Train.
@spyderMW
@spyderMW 2 жыл бұрын
You do the best British races
@avgeekinfotainment7776
@avgeekinfotainment7776 2 жыл бұрын
Two hours in advance at LCY? Means that the plane is not 15 minutes faster but rather 75, since showing up one hour in advance is plenty of time in LCY usually. Especially with online check-in and no bags to check.
@joelhjalmarsson7729
@joelhjalmarsson7729 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this one. Coming to Europe to visit and will be going to Amsterdam. Didn't think about the train however now to check prices
@junotrekki
@junotrekki 2 жыл бұрын
I dont understand why racing? You have your destination times on your boardings pass. So as long as nothing happens, you have fixed times. The "only" race may be starting at that departure time.
@markmcgreevy1806
@markmcgreevy1806 2 жыл бұрын
Fab ! But Liam was at the airport boarding gate 2hours before departure and he could have been there 1 hour before and still been ok . So plane is an hour quicker this time 🙂
@osantiagues
@osantiagues Жыл бұрын
Brilliant presenting duo. Quite surprised the plane won actually - would have thought the train would always be quicker.
@MiyaBhika
@MiyaBhika 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but what’s the price difference?
@dot10k
@dot10k 9 ай бұрын
Enjoyed watching this, but ….. you should cover the cost of each. As the times were nearly identical, the cost could be a major deciding factor. Train travel in Europe looks fantastic!
@scottydoggymama
@scottydoggymama 2 жыл бұрын
I was sworn at and bonked out the way when I stepped in a bike lane hahahahaha
@ukdavepianoman
@ukdavepianoman 5 ай бұрын
Love these race videos. Given the difference in time (not much) I'd take the train over flying for this particular route. Much less hassle, views along the way. Choose Standard Premier instead of Business - same seat in both, but SP is much less expensive.
@youssefhazem5007
@youssefhazem5007 2 жыл бұрын
Hi points guy I’m I'm Youssef hazem i’m a huge fan of your videos and I’m a huge fan of Nicky kelvin, jean, Daniel Ross and also Liam you guys are like my biggest KZbinrs and I watch your videos everyday and thank you for the support and effort you guys are putting through btw I’m from Alexandria Egypt
@fgrion
@fgrion 2 жыл бұрын
i don't understand the first part of the video, why rushing to the station/airport when you know already what time you scheduled train/plane is.... Also Liam could easily leave 30 mins later because he passed security 2 hours before... i think a race would make sense in a scenario in which, for example, the sooner you arrive to the station the sooner can jump on the train.
@GeorgeKenmore
@GeorgeKenmore 2 жыл бұрын
Most interesting - the train is my preferred mode of travel. I’d like to see less of the race aspect and see how the two compare in natural time. I doubt I could , in fact I know could not, run from Centraal to Dam Square.
@samanthavijewardana2923
@samanthavijewardana2923 2 жыл бұрын
Omggg wowwwww 🤩🤩 I agreeeee🤩🤩🤩 next time go to Japan 🇯🇵 🤩🤩 Can’t wait to see it 🥰🥰
@pengo369
@pengo369 2 жыл бұрын
Love these types of video, well done again guys.
@sravankumarputluru1190
@sravankumarputluru1190 2 жыл бұрын
I like your racing videos much better than other videos .... Try do videos on racing it's better Nicky and Liam
@ricardosam8050
@ricardosam8050 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks lads I be trying new direct route in September can’t wait
@darrenduffy1227
@darrenduffy1227 2 жыл бұрын
9:47 They should use a Class 158 Sprinter for Amsterdam Sprinter services.
@TravelNutWill
@TravelNutWill 2 жыл бұрын
I like the race series, very old school Top Gear like
@darakshanmatin6350
@darakshanmatin6350 2 жыл бұрын
You guys are the best. Your channel deserve a 1 million subscribers
@bowie2004
@bowie2004 2 жыл бұрын
A classic Top Gear race!
@framedman
@framedman 2 жыл бұрын
A fairer comparison would have been going from LHR, Liam would have been done for. I've raced my wife before, pre Covid and the train was 20 minutes ahead. I know who was more comfortable 🤣
@danielh4295
@danielh4295 2 жыл бұрын
A 4hr train ride is in the sweetest spot where it is the most preferable mode to take over air. However, given the the fact that the flight was from City Airport to Schiphol (which is extremely close and well connected to the Amsterdam Central) it negated a lot of benefits offered by rail. Great race and I'd still take rail any day of the week.
@alexverdigris9939
@alexverdigris9939 2 жыл бұрын
The reason why the plane stood a chance, was flying fom London City Airport rather than any other airport. London City is the best connected one, very close to the centre of London, (which comes at a cost when you book). Flying from anywhere else would have been a different story.
@benhabot9526
@benhabot9526 2 жыл бұрын
Most wholesome race series on KZbin :)
@CO84trucker
@CO84trucker Жыл бұрын
Next time y'all's are in the states, you should do a train vs plane between Miami and Orlando once Brightline starts service between the two. The flight takes approx 1 hr & 15 minutes while the train (which is a diesel powered Siemens trainset similar to Austria's Railjet) is expected to take around 3 hours.
@jimmyjohns8944
@jimmyjohns8944 2 жыл бұрын
well done guys, the UK YT is 10x better than its US conterpart. keep it up, great content
@jcopeman
@jcopeman Жыл бұрын
Not quite fair. I've been upgraded to business on the KLM AMS - LCY flight before and it is probably equivalent to the train, plus its only an hour! You only need to be at City Airport 30 minutes before the flight, so he could have hung around in London for another hour. Without the premier ticket on the train it looked like there would be another hour wait to check in! KLM out of City is a great service, I often connect out of Schipol now rather than travel across the city to get to Heathrow! Train is often a LOT more expensive as well, especially that Premier ticket.
@redpuppy2010
@redpuppy2010 2 жыл бұрын
Points guy so helpful giving me cheap and extra choices to get on holiday!
@Emthe30something
@Emthe30something 2 жыл бұрын
The edit! Excellent as always. culminating in 13:35. Loved it .
@brunodallari7602
@brunodallari7602 2 жыл бұрын
Another advantage of the train over the plane, which people tend to forget to consider, is the following: If you have work to do, reading or writing on a laptop, for example, on the train you start working even before the train leaves and you can work without interruption until reaching the final destination. On the plane, you have to wait for the plane to take off and have gained height and stability to start working - hoping there is no turbulence on the way. When the plane is about to land, you must stop working. As the train goes smoothly all the way, on a two-hour train journey, you may work for two hours. On a two-hour plane trip, you may work at most for one and even then with a lower degree of concentration and performance.
@Sim0nTrains
@Sim0nTrains 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, honestly I rather take the train as I never flew in my life
@lalalalalala8147
@lalalalalala8147 10 ай бұрын
I much prefer going by train; fewer delays, more comfortable and relaxed, no annoying turbulance and I enjoy the scenary. Also, a far lower carbon footprint. Saying that, I llive in Norfolk, and Norwich has the shortest and cheapest flights to Schipol (pronounced "sh-kipol"). I love Amsterdam (correct pronouciation is closer to "Omsterdam". I lived and worked there for some considerable time. Much love to the Dutch people!
@sergicallis
@sergicallis 2 жыл бұрын
You should do a Emirates class comparison now that they just launched Premium Economy class
@neilburns8869
@neilburns8869 Жыл бұрын
Well done guys, you have done London to Paris, London to Edinburgh, London to Amsterdam and London to Brussels now. But I still think that you could reasonably do 2 or 3 more like that which would obviously be good races to see. The 3 I had in mind would all leave from London but go to 3 other European countries within reach. 1) Germany (Frankfurt, Munich or Berlin - you choose the city you feel would be best for a race) 2) Italy (Milan, Rome or Naples) 3) Switzerland (Zurich). You can obviously space them out like a month apart or whatever. But I think they would be right up your street and given that you are both such great European citizens I am sure that you would thoroughly enjoy the races and visiting the different nations and their cultures. I apologise if I seemed too pushy, after all it's really just a suggestion. Sorry, guys.😳
@nataliatheweirdo
@nataliatheweirdo 2 жыл бұрын
Why is this the most like- ironic vid to come on my reccomended xD my parents kept on arguing weather we should fly or take the train to amsterdam, mum was team train, dad was team plane, we ended up flying bc it was ‘quicker’ and the flight got cancelled, and then got delayed twice 😂 qUiCkEr!!!!
@parmentier7457
@parmentier7457 2 жыл бұрын
Within five years, all international trains such as Eurostar, Thays, ICE, Night trains will no longer arrive/depart from Amsterdam Central. Amsterdam Zuid station is currently being converted into the international train station. There are also plans to renovate Schiphol Station so that the Eurostar can also stop at this station. There is currently no space for a customs area at Schiphol station.
@Selivio
@Selivio 2 жыл бұрын
Well, not really. The project wich enables the moving of the international trains to Amsterdam Zuid is delayed multiple times already and isn't finished before 2030 (next to a slight problem of the reconstruction of Amsterdam Centraal Station wich starts in 2024. This makes it that the Eurostar service is probably gonna be cut to Rotterdam because of the impossibillity to do the security checks on Amsterdam by than). And secondly, there are currently no plans for an stop at Schiphol Airport station for the Eurostar, the space at that station is after the renovation still way too tight for an customs area...
@dennisrettke
@dennisrettke 2 жыл бұрын
That's disappointing to stop at Zuid instead. Defeats the purpose of taking the long-distance train
@john_something_or_other
@john_something_or_other 2 жыл бұрын
Not really a race with train/plane tickets already booked. The only race bit is from leaving the airport/station to to the finish line.
@ryanslade8073
@ryanslade8073 Жыл бұрын
It definitely needs to be said that a standard Eurostar ticket is definitely cheaper most of the time and can be found for £39 a lot
@missVmilne
@missVmilne 2 жыл бұрын
Editing on point guys - both routes have merits. Looking forward to the next race. Stay well and positive : - ) xxx
@GregCurtin45
@GregCurtin45 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats Liam, better luck next time Nicky. I gather Nicky had to pick up the tab at the "coffee house" ? lol. You guys have the best music in your videos. Stay safe in your travels.
@elizabethdawson4108
@elizabethdawson4108 2 жыл бұрын
LUV =YOUR VIDEOS= luv the banter between each other = luv the fun side of travel =elizabeth NZ xox
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