Racing two of the most powerful e-bikes

[@TheVerge]

Which one would you choose?

[@timelinebreaking6703]

73

[@codylanelife]

I own a hyperscorpion!

[@amped19996]

You guys did not take the mph governor limiter off, you have too unplug it or program it from the menu

[@codylanelife]

@@amped19996 I was assuming they didn't have the Juiced bike in the Race mode, they should be pretty much similar in speed.

[@InvincibleStormFilms]

73.

[@CatatonicImperfect]

Wait, the throttle occasionally engaging on its own is a *serious* problem.

[@cooperberrysmith7701]

just casually gloss over that like it's nothing

[@cc8530]

Exactly! It’s not a ‘feature’ one wants, should expect or put up with. If you’re fair dinkum about safety, then this should have been rectified prior to your testing. Speaking of safety, it’s good you spent $15 on pegs for your passengers to save their toes, what about a helmet for the other end? Quite frankly what an unprofessional demonstration that sends the wrong message.

[@amped19996]

the 800$ metakoo ebike on Amazon is q good deal

[@superstar5123]

can kill people

[@Sebbir]

What’s the worst that could happen?

[@7wv5]

more ebike coverage please -- Super 73 is getting ready to announce their new bike (the next gen Z-series, probably) in less than 3 hours!

[@jornjanssen90]

is there a livestream or something?

[@jessedavidge2068]

should review some city focused bikes like roadster v2 , babymaker, or the KBO hurricane. I always get asked about my roadster and think more people would be into these "non-ebike" looking models.

[@7wv5]

@@jornjanssen90 I thought there would be a live stream, they just posted some stuff and sent out an email. Preorders for the Super 73 ZX is live now

[@joegarland2224]

Ariel rider grizzly is the king of this kind of bike with this price..

[@philamonhemstreet8632]

Can we get a video about e-bike safety? At the point where you are going 30 mph you are way out ahead of what Norma bike helmets are rated for. Honestly and that point you should consider Kevlar jeans and pads. I’m an avid EUC rider and I’ll be the first to tell you, safety regulations are lagging way behind the technology. E bikes of this class are almost as dangerous as motorcycles if not more so.

[@jasonmaulin887]

The channel Fortnine has a really good video of this. People need to do a little more research on these types of transportation

[@amped19996]

This is the lambghorghini of ebikes bro

[@crysed7897]

Yes, an electric bike that goes as fast as gasoline motorbike should be in the same category, therefore they should use full motorbike helmet... This is what comes up to my attention also when I watch this vid

[@amped19996]

Ebikes are fairly new, just like there wqs no helmets at first with gas doesn't mean there will be with electric

[@davidwilson2233]

Cars go fast too. Electric cars go super fast. Drivers of fast cars need full helmets too...in the name of safety. Maybe fireproof jumpsuits too. Or, maybe just let people make their own choices.

[@endtwoducing]

These backalley drone shots from you two riding on this often repaired, badly damaged road with the music selection are so dope. They transport a really cool vibe, although I can't quite put into words what I feel when I see them. It just feels good.

[@EddiePotatoes]

Just picked you a HyperScorpion from Juiced. It’s my first ebike. Been riding electric scooters for the past couple of years. Both are fun. Different brands of fun.

[@bellcurve0]

At some point where is the line between and electric motorcycle that requires a licence and insurance etc and just an electric moped that’s treated like a bicycle?

[@cooperberrysmith7701]

pedals vs not

[@meestermaarten5213]

This isn’t a e-bike, its a e-scooter

[@CatatonicImperfect]

It's going to appeal to customers who like the look, but I'd argue that Vespa-style e-scooters like Nui are way more practical as a mode of transport in the city.

[@daindoboy]

In the Netherlands they sell these supr73 to people coming from vespa’s. With a average height in the Netherlands they are way to small to actually pedal properly 😂 but those people weren’t riding bikes before so they probably don’t mind.

[@amped19996]

Metakoo 800$ Ebike

[@bridawg24]

@@amped19996 Junk compared to the bikes in this video.

[@alexandercolwill]

So, why do these things have pedals.. Is it just so they aren't classed as motorbikes? because by the look of them they should be classed as such.. If those were in the UK you'd be needing A CBT, Number plate, tax and insurance. oh and a motorbike specific helmet.

[@ivandiaz5791]

Correct. These bikes are trying very very hard to narrowly skate by and still fall into the legal category of "bicycle".

[@thomasreese2816]

You can absolutely pedal the Juiced bike and get a workout. If you're taller, you need to get the seat riser.

[@independentmind85]

Grateful for living in America!

[@amped19996]

Amazon 800$ Metakoo ebike

[@alveolate]

@@independentmind85 always one of these hanging around blurting their jingoistic country-love with no self-awareness.

[@mxnjones]

Look at Becca, just living their best life!

[@valramos2003]

The camera work and editing on this video is 👌🏼

[@joshuaashley7874]

For real though. Stitching together drone footage, helmet cams, and bike cams with the audio all seamlessly flowing together. Some Hollywood editor’s moonlighting at The Verge.

[@CaffeinatedCruiser]

I know there’s pry not a huge overlap in the market but I’d love to see a motorcyclist review it. Also it scares the heck out of me seeing someone ride 30 mph with a bicycle helmet 😂😅 I’ve bees riding motorcycles for two years and let me tell you a 30mph crash is no joke

[@amped19996]

800$ Metakoo ebike

[@crysed7897]

I fell twice and injured from a motorbike... It's no joke and bicycle helmet is just not safe

[@bigchebureki]

Revzilla has a review on it. They're a motorbike channel.

[@WhyNotAParadox]

I was putting off watching this video until later, but then I saw Becca in the thumbnail and had to watch it right away! Always love seeing a Becca video - they always brighten up my day!

[@UncleFjester]

Becca is a Dude

[@Alex-fu3mi]

She uses she/her pronouns

[@VietnamEli]

4:04 Why is the headlight pointing into the air? Is it supposed to be that way?

[@LordManhattan]

It's not supposed to be pointing towards the empty void of space, and yes, it's super easy to adjust.

[@leonardoar1458]

Love ebike reviews! If you can get e-road bike companies to send you bikes they look super cool! Bianchi, Trek, Specialized, Orbea, and Pinarello all have multiple ebike models that are a totally different vibe to the motorcycle-lite ones but seem super super cool. Similar price range on many of them as well. If I was dropping 3k on an ebike going for one of them over the moped/motorcycle style for sure!

[@RadCityBerlin]

i love my EU-spec RX, comes stock with 10 speed Shimano Zee, Magura brakes and much more! Thanks for the cool video

[@ak_hoops]

That race start was epic! Had to acknowledge, love it!

[@tommoex]

Can we get some electric scooter reviews too?

[@ketowolf]

These look SO fun!!!! My biggest concern is how to store it. Living in an upstairs apartment would make it difficult to store :(

[@Boemel]

There are folding electric fatbikes like this !

[@CalebOlshefsky]

Love it! I have a HS2 and ride it most everyday! The mirrors are terrible though. Replaced those right away.

[@Smaug1]

I noticed the left rear turn signal is jacked-up. Did it come like that or did you drop it? 4:28 - Mating call. 5:35 - Has Juiced fixed this safety issue? (throttle says on when it shouldn't) Nice job on the review. Seems like Super 73 is going to mainly be for celebrities; the Mercedes option and Juiced is going to be more like Honda.

[@gladyshughes8497]

Set up in my garage. Sure comes in handy. Works great

[@BrentSnider]

Awesome video, thanks for all of the great information.

[@hamzterix]

I own a hyperscrambler2 for months now. For some reason mine is faster than the one in this video. Probably didn't unlock the limiter.

[@guerian84]

That what I said

[@davoncci]

Juiced Bikes and their signature brake squeak. I carry alcohol wipes to always wipe down the front brakes. But, I own the HS2 and damn, its fun to ride. I ride mine to work 6 days a week. I have almost 800 miles of it...no problems...except of course...brake squeak.

[@mouahmong]

Did you bed your brakes when you got the bike? I have 2x HyperScramblers and no brake squeal on either. If you didn't bed the brakes, you'll have to clean and resurface the rotors and pads and bed the brakes to get rid of the noise.

[@AvallonYo]

It’s actually a AC brushless motor, the Dc battery sends the voltage to the controller which converts that signal into an Ac current which in turn powers the motor

[@jamieniche]

Absolutely correct, I glad someone understands.

[@domramsey]

They look fun but potentially lethal. Both for rider and pedestrians. Especially the one that automatically turns the throttle on...!

[@TalwinderDhillonTravels]

Vehicles like this defeat the point of walkable spaces and bike lanes

[@bigchebureki]

The european model is much safer. It doesnt have the throttle that the american model has (which by law would make it a motorcycle in europe).

[@projectm1473]

Whatever you named it, branded it. It's all made only in China. They made and modify it a little bit by the entrepreneur's request or how much they pay the big factory in China. That's why you can buy the same design on Amazon, Alibaba, and other retailers only without the branded name for less cost.

[@amym7122]

Ebikes are so much fun

[@efenili]

These aren't bikes, lol. Lets be honest, these are electric scooters/motorcycles. But love them 😀 That said the prices are silly and are geared for those with expendable $$ who want to be seen. You can get an electric motorcycle that goes further and faster for similar prices these days.

[@RedRashBallz]

Yes but then you'll have to pay for gas and insurance. Which probably adds up to more than the price of just these bikes. Not to mention the more expensive maintenance. Also don't you need to take a 6 month course to get your motorcycle license

[@efenili]

@@RedRashBallz I said electric motos, but even if it was gas...the equivalent probably gets 80+mpg if not more, making the cost of gas >$10 a month. As for insurance, these SHOULD require it too. Only a fool rides a motorized vehicle electric or not 25mph+ without proper motorcycle level protections.

[@RedRashBallz]

@@efenili Oh my bad I didn't read the electric motorcycle part. I'm pretty sure most people that get electric bikes live in urban/city areas. You most likely won't be doing 25+ mph for most of your riding. If a motor vehicle hits you, MOST of the time you can sue for damages if their insurance company doesn't pay for it. If a bicyclist hits a car, more than likely the bike won't be doing significant damage. If the latter happens, I'd rather pay out of pocket than have to pay for insurance (and then subsequently have my premiums go up)

[@hongbun8906]

What about raining experience? riding, parking?

[@tiffanythomas1495]

This video was so good. Thnx for making it. Lol, I’m a little late seeing it a year later but very helpful. I just got my s2 about three weeks ago. I’m loving it. However I wanted the RX Mojave so bad but felt that it sat too high for me. Becca may I ask how tall are you? And is height an issue for you when you were riding the RX?

[@Sacchidanand]

More mobile reviews with Becca!

[@matheusgomesdecarvalho7343]

And the Academy Award for Best Cinematography goes to ------> this intro

[@spieo]

Love more people on "bikes" even if things like these are the gateway drug.

[@Altema22]

Great job on the video, and being so upbeat made it fun to watch. Both of these bikes are fun, and I've ridden with both of them. However, they are far from the most powerful. Neither has proper geometry for pedaling, though the Juiced is better on this point. The Juiced throttle defect IS serious, and could be fatal in some situations. And speaking of which, you really should be using better safety gear. E-bikes are safer than analog bikes (statistically speaking), with better brakes and stronger frames (and you won't get your front wheel kicked sideways by an acorn), but it's better to be safe because you will be riding an e-bike more than an analog bike. I'm a former marathoner who had eleven bikes at one point, and my one e-bike makes emergency stops far better than any analog bike I've had.

[@ArchieGee]

We need more Becca!

[@MentalEdge]

9:41 5 Volt charger? What? The charger would have to match battery voltage. Is this 5 referring to amperage?

[@joshuacastle8701]

Do they have a 750 watt model to qualify for a class 3 electric bicycle?? What’s the point if you can’t legal ride it in specific areas?

[@SeanBaker]

I really enjoyed this video.

[@stefan25769]

Please review the Cake Ösa! And I love the reviews with Becca!

[@drewtlau]

Whats their performance on uphill?

[@paddlefaster]

I have a Sonders with the 72 amp hour battery and 750 watt motor. It will cruise at 42 mph. A lot of fun.

[@mouahmong]

@@danielbryner He's trolling. To get close to 40 mph you need at least a 3000w motor running on a 60v-72v system. Sonders are all 48v bike systems.

[@tolgaaltinbas2054]

Whats the price of these two bikes??

[@InternetSenation]

...did you even watch the video?

[@tolgaaltinbas2054]

@@InternetSenation its too long lol

[@eddiewang4135]

Compare any with Ariel Rider Grizzly. You missed the most powerful e-bike in market

[@mariorjcorbin]

Good video. Nit pick, but PLEASE adjust the headlight properly. So many ppl with ebikes have their lights pointing in every which way bar the right one. Otherwise, anything past 20miles an hour should require a motorcycle grade helmet. A bicycle helmet won't protect your head. All the gear, all the time (ATGATT)!

[@rbo350]

I own a Rad Runner plus and really like but I wish it had rear suspension, more speed and bigger battery

[@cerpanorm]

why that front light looks up tho?

[@RDJ1SS]

Have you ever looked back at the video and wished you fixed the headlight?

[@FinancialShinanigan]

Andrew and Becca just wanted to ride their bikes lol

[@andyjayhawkins]

busted

[@bloodsport_718nyc]

it's crazy some people refer to these as "emopeds/escooters" while others say these are powerful. I'd say they're right in the middle somewhere.

[@leojohnwayne1422]

Are there any stores here in NYC that sells super73?

[@hectorg.7282]

There are tons of these companies popping up and they will not all survive, who do you choose to purchase from if you expect longevity of the product?

[@EliasSchnetzer]

Wait for a few years. They'll get a lot cheaper and the good companies more well established.

[@glennreviews5171]

It is a bike so it does not really matter parts are standard. The motors are by bafang who are huge.

[@hectorg.7282]

@@glennreviews5171 I am only going by personal experience, I had an electric scooter that broke down and the manufacturer would not service it, and no one I reached out to would do it either, there were no aftermarket parts for the thing and anyone that was willing to work on it called it "custom work" which was going to be almost as expensive as buying a new one or more expensive in some cases.

[@glennreviews5171]

@@hectorg.7282 There is a benefit to having local warranty. But bike parts are all standard. so you can easy swap in and out different parts. The are also mostly all using bafang motors so even the electrics is all interchangeable. So it depends on the price really. I paid $1400 for a bike with no warranty and so far it has been great.

[@hectorg.7282]

@@glennreviews5171 In my case, there was nothing available to repair the scooter but as long the parts are accessible it is not an issue. Thanks for info.

[@spoonyfork]

I found myself cringing at the lack of appropriate safety gear at the speeds shown in the video. If you don't want to be a meat crayon consider wearing motorcycle specific gear for impact and abrasion protection... and a full face helmet.

[@GoldenGod69]

You can move both bikes up stairs, give it a little throttle and it will pull itself up the stairs while you are pushing from the side

[@AndrewNascimento]

Would love to see more ebike stuff.

[@Ahrik]

Review the Sur Ron X, it’s probably the coolest e-bike i’ve seen so far

[@grimx5772]

Get some apple airtags for these bikes. Gonna save you thousands if it gets stolen.

[@gnaved]

That's the first thing I did when I got my airtags

[@ugoamaliri941]

Yes please more E-bike. Merci, thanks.

[@troymccarty5284]

Please do more Ebike videos!!! Have you heard of Ariel Rider? Please do a video on their X-Class 48v compared to their X-Class 52v!!!

[@brianbidelman9579]

Absolutely amazing bike

[@drooptis]

I'm riding a Miloo bike. You guys should check them out! They're a new start up out of Geneva, Switzerland

[@dEcmircEd]

a thirty degrees incline ? try doing that with a real bike, it will put you down really fast

[@1lyf]

What am I Riding Becca? Well a 5 wheel, Hight adjustable, 2 level recline with adjustable arm support CHAIR is what am riding 12 hours every day.. Its not very comfortable tbh as not as fun as Spuer73 or Juiced.. :/ I'm not jealous at all... :(

[@de1deonly]

But which one whips?

[@amped19996]

The 800$ Metakoo imo is the best deal on amazon

[@arrpee7468]

Thanks it look nice

[@tbbainter777]

Need to compare different manufacturers models.

[@gmzatx]

Great video

[@marpertube]

5k for electric bicycle when you can buy real city Honda click for half price? No way this will sell..

[@chasenthehype]

Difference is you don't have to get a motorcycle license for these....and that's honestly scary.

[@dee556]

@XAEA12 and you can’t ride on the sidewalk with a Motorcycle 😂

[@Ilovebassss]

Awesome 🤩👌

[@abhi710]

Can you please review the van moof S3 and X3?

[@Mr.Viking]

American vehicle laws are crazy

[@smug_slime]

Might as well be electric motorcycle at this point.

[@paddlefaster]

It is like a motorcycle. God help you if you have to Pedal one of those things. I had to do it once and it was miserable.

[@ronalcasid3844]

Yeah at this point the pedals are there to keep it from being classified as motorcycle avoiding licensing, insurance and government regulations.

[@chasenthehype]

Yeah, and it's causing a huge uproar at the government level with the class 1-3 restrictions to be even tighter. They are keeping those pedals on there to fall into the oddball 'class 4' eBike restrictions - but really they are eMotorcycles at this point.

[@DANN3101]

These aren’t ebikes. They are motorcycles with pedals. I know we’re wading into “what is a computer” territory here but some facts are facts. These aren’t eBikes.

[@ScottBaker38]

Great video! You should also check out the Bandit from Spark Cycleworks!

[@mrinmoyhossain1825]

Wait till Sondors Madmods arrives.

[@oneSaint]

Super73 - S2 Hudson Blue right here.

[@rowanstrang8072]

Great vid

[@caramelzappa]

I got a juiced scrambler off the original kickstarter. It's a nice bike. I do feel like with ebike laws the way they are, there's no real reason to get one of these $2k+ bikes. Anything that's 750w class 3 is going to perform pretty much the same.

[@mouahmong]

I disagree. I started with a Lectric XP (500w nominal/800w peak) and a DJ SuperBike (750w nominal/1200w peak). There is a huge (sustained) torque and top-speed difference even when my bikes are in "class 2/3 mode." I now have a Juiced HyperScrambler 2 and a Super73 S2. Keep in mind that "750w" is the "nominal" rating. Many 750w ebikes have a peak of 1000w-2000w power rating. A motor that is rated for 1000w/1200w nominal with 2000w peak will perform much better.

[@KrisLaKrass]

As a motorcyclist i have to say you are already going fast enough to hurt yourself. Wear protection, especially around ankles. At least high boots and gloves.

[@kaijumakesmoney]

Hilarious review

[@overcast73rx55]

I’ve own my RX over 1 year now. No you do not need blinkers use your hand signals because nobody can see your hand signals nor definitely can they not see blinkers. The stock seat is the most awkward uncomfortable thing ever. I’ve never had two people on my bike they wouldn’t fit plus I’m already 200 so I can’t add anybody over 125 pounds. Yes it’s a hub motor so it makes sense if you go up a 30° grade then it’s gonna be very difficult. Hub motors are notorious for crapping out uphill. I pretty much don’t ever lock up my bike I have a lock, but I don’t trust others unless I’m going to be in and out. most of the time I’ll just take it into the store and wait for somebody to say no. I generally get 20 to 30 miles on my super 73 anywhere from about an hour to three hours depending on my riding style. It’s probably sufficient but it’s going to take you at least three hours to charge up. This can be mitigated a little bit by purchasing an additional 10speed that cost $250 and it’ll probably cost you equal to install it unless you do it yourself. There are fast chargers available from chi chargers. Officially I can’t recommend them because they do degrade your battery but it may not matter so your results may vary. Yes you will constantly go 30 miles an hour and even at 20 miles an hour Karen will tell you to slow down. The bike has four pedal assist modes I use pretty much use position four all the time. This bike has been the best thing. It’s definitely an attention grabber every guy that takes a look at your bike will ask you questions about it. I have got some undesired attention too.

[@mouahmong]

I own the S2 (same motor as the RX) and a Juiced HyperScrambler 2. The Juiced is able to do 30° from a stop pretty easily. The S2 has the worst torque...I can't wait for S73 to drop the torque firmware upgrade which will supposedly increase the torque for the S2/R/RX by 30%.

[@TheJohncom]

You should try the Unimoke from Berlin ;)

[@kathrineculver696]

As someone whom owns both a motorcycle, and E-bike i can honestly say these things are a money sink. The Super73 comes in at a whopping 3,700 which is basically 1k short of a brand new motorcycle. The pricing on the Scrambler is alot easier to digest but its still grossly overpriced for what they essentially do. When i say i own a motorcycle i dont mean i've been riding for years i literally picked up a FB marketplace special for $2,600 and have put over 17k miles on it, as well i bought an Class 2 ebike for $700 and honestly dont see why these things cost $2k+ i mean if your that overloaded with money and just dont care to have well anything that has actual value to it by all means dump $1,900 more on a bike that can go 8 miles faster than my $700 can go.

[@jbnelson]

3:18 *snickers* “…sAd 🥲”

[@itsrasterize8898]

i just hope ebikes are okay to ride when there are floods just like a normal bike

[@ivandiaz5791]

I rode an ebike for over a year in some of the rainiest climates in the US. It's perfectly fine. Never had a single issue with it. Even lower end ebikes seem to be weatherproofed very well.

[@shouryeningle3688]

For less than $2000, you can get a 120km range electric motorcycle

[@RFarrington48]

And that is...

[@yehmon12]

They can't go everywhere and they also require a license and insurance.

[@FenixRising360]

Very simple. I see Becca I click.

[@charlieb7728]

Honestly, the pedals on these bikes are probably more for legal reasons than anything 😂

[@nba5509]

you should say/write metrics!! For, you know, people of every other country that watches your videos!

[@TalwinderDhillonTravels]

I don’t think they care. Also this thing is probably not available outside usa

[@nba5509]

@@TalwinderDhillonTravels true

[@chevvakulasrikanth9260]

Review the new Beats Buds..

[@BeccaFarsace]

👀👀

[@MariosKarampalis]

Very expensive, both of them, with the same money and without a license you could buy NIU or Super Soco electric scooters with better range and hydraulic disk brackets.

[@Shahyan008]

At the beginning of the year this Hyper scorpion cost 2.2K now it’s above 3k

[@DANNNNNNNO]

Lol trailer load of Teslas in the background at 5:34

[@Nox_Bishop]

Vox's Top Gear presents... E-Bikes

[@everywherelocal]

yeah! 🤙

[@felixbattet2562]

It's the face cam for me😤

[@zerocool2727]

the problem with this e bikes is the price with the price you can buy a honda grom another point is you need to charge the bike with the groom just go gas station another point very important point is if you in San Francisco or in places with hills the battery is gonna go down fast is so hard to get parts and also if you lucky take really long time to arrive to you

[@tinongnjong1305]

9:42 Yoooooo did she just say “5 volt 2.8 pound charger “ 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 ain’t no ebike in this world that has a 5 volt charger. It’s a 48v 3a charger. Doing some research would have helped. Hold on no research was required in this case 😭😭😭😭. All she had to do was read what was written on the back of the charger😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳. Dammmmm The Verge; y’all need to up your game. Any underrated KZbinr would have gotten those details right, and that’s why you really needed people who are passionate about bikes, not just someone who wants a job

[@cameronsmith1062]

I think you mean aluminum 6061 and 7075

[@hellohogo]

When your dad says real talk 😂